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If it isn’t clear by now that
@ihopkc
is an outright cesspool, I don’t know what else will elucidate it.
It’s shameful and embarrassing. In almost every way, I deeply regret ever having been a party to or promoting it.
#ihopkc
#mistyedwards
#kevinprosch
#onlyashadow
#MikeBickle
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Sometimes I wonder if
@CoryAsbury
will end up commenting on the recent absurdities around ministries/sters he was close to; I think it’d be helpful… then I see this absolute golden nugget regarding an absolute brown nugget,
@seanfeucht
.
Well said.
#twit
#HeWontEverChange
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@ryankondo
@reachjulieroys
@mistydedwards
Like honestly, she’s had so much time to come out and say all she’s needed to. Everyone has, including you. Instead, she shames the victims and fabricates her own victimhood. So THAT’S the story that should be told instead?
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I don’t want to be a Debby Downer here, but we need to keep in mind that this would not have been posted without the approval of Lathrop’s team. They aren’t writers and this is for sure not over.
Until we see specific and particular proof otherwise, smoke and mirrors are the MO.
Words cannot express the anger, shock, heartbreak, and sadness we have experienced as we have learned of allegations and testimonies of sexual abuse and manipulation concerning Mike Bickle, founder of IHOPKC.
We believe that Mike Bickle sexually abused and manipulated Jane Doe
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@seanfeucht
You cheapen the cross and blood by calling out victims of abuses rather than the abusers of victims.
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Cowards turn comments off.
No mistaking now, If you’re still at
@ihopkc
yet not part of the ones leaking insider information regarding the obvious corruptions, you ARE the problem, and you will ensure more of the horrid past be repeated then shame others for it.
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@ZionConsultTeam
And we believe JD2, whose voice was stolen by MB to shame her and downplay JD1’s accounts in a sham report.
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@Joel7Richardson
Honestly, it’s as though he has no idea how powerful a concession of any sort is.
Like, just say, “yeah sorry bout that, while I don’t think we should gossip, I think I should have approached/expressed that differently.”
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@WillCab8
But seriously, remember when Isaac said the quiet part out loud on stage in October about knowing and grieving for at least a few weeks before Slimy Stu has JUST mentioned he found out?
“Including the Bethel struggles we have…”
I’m calling that. That’s him Freudian slipping up.
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@Akajohnssmith
@kvministries
You summed it up: good fathers don’t say what Kris says.
Wow. That right there is pertinent.
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@EricVolz
@Rpanozzo88
I’m not saying that every day you make it sound like you should probably still be in a South American prison, but yeah, that’s kinda what’s coming together as well, bruh.
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Before
@malachiobrien
posts something that undoubtedly will confirm all suspicions, be reminded of the type of people who founded and are perpetually harbored at
@ihopkc
in light of recent journalistic efforts. He prides himself on suffering the children to himself in adoption.
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@starcazm
He broke his silence a couple weeks ago at a conference… this thing is just PR because of that.
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@ihopkc
Put a webstream in the offices with bolt locks on the doors. That would fuel things like trust in communities around the world that have been betrayed by your very own black horse and all its stablehands.
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@ihopkc
Ew. Yall have a continued and covered up history of seeing a little too much love and affection in one another. Drop the flowery language that means nothing and deal the actual tangible issues.
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@IamRickJoyner
Did you have any dreams about predators being pushed back onto their prey, except it was you doing the pushing?
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Remember that things that have seemed (even minimally) like they were the tiniest of steps in the right direction have been succeeded by horrible behavior from the backrooms all the way to the platform.
May we not be fooled again by platitudes that are just the bare minimum.
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@AaronBack22
@ChandiHeenan
@ihopkc
You’ll soon find dealing with her is about as fruitful and enjoyable as dealing with the other bickle bots.
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@allenshood
@JBoeglXrucianis
Imagine believing “boldly” after hearing Tammy’s own crushing verbal testimony, that a spiritual pat on the back, a name change, and a reminder to not talk about things was to be considered bold, courageous, or biblically-minded. Heels are dug in in every corner in
#ihopkc
.
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@allenshood
@JBoeglXrucianis
It’s not a one off with her and select other’s still involved. They’re not actually that quiet; they spin their own propagandic web of posts continuously. If I showed you her last 30 posts, you wouldn’t be able to distinguish them from Joanna’s, Malachi’s, Chandi’s or Brumback’s.
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@isierranichole
Great question.
Still heavily premil. Still really emphatic on the resurrection. Still expecting things to get rough before that. Still positive God is with us until then.
NOT caring almost at all about Arrowhead Stadium or what people prophesy about the end times.
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@Akajohnssmith
@LouEngle
I’m thankful he’s speaking out on this, but he’s also speaking out against women speaking out, so he needs to make up his mind.
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@SRClaridgeWrite
100% if I had the money, I’d be paying the sleuthiest, most devious PI possible since November. I reckon that would be so much fun seeing what got dug up in the darkest corners of their lives.
Those are my intrusive thoughts, but still.
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Ya know what I can sense?
You guessed it.
The RETURN of the King (of bypassing & complicity)
The One with the Runs
The worst of the worst
Everybody’s least favorite, most cringeworthy, only-ever-supporting-predators-and-nobody-else-for-some-reason influencer
…Malachi
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He is not safe.
This should be obvious in light of the wind in his sails from Joanna Lee and the perpetual backing of the unnamed-account Bickle Boys. He’s not safe for anyone.
I’ll wait because it’s now on him to prove us all wrong.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
#shewasfourteen
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@seanfeucht
Those “trolls” are people calling for justice for victims, standing up against those who downplay the things that they’ve experienced and how those things affected them.
But hey, I’m glad those voices are silenced for you.
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Though this statement reads so much better than anything yet distributed from the institution, I urge people to take it with a grain of salt and wait for days, months, years even, to see if the repentance is true or just partial and pacifying unto the Firm’s next move.
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@BrotherTodd
I was in the exact same boat. It seemed like every other day they were presented openhandedly with opportunity handle it any other way, but they have charged down a forged clear path to where they are today. It’s really disheartening.
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@ryankondo
@reachjulieroys
@mistydedwards
This isn’t the “trauma-informed” response you think it is. She is the same victim-creating and -shaming scum that’s risen to the top of this stagnate pond as the others. Hopefully you don’t have the same tune when it all comes out on the rest of the ELT. That would be bizarre.
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Compare and contrast her message with that of
@allenshood
‘s recent response, or
@JBoeglXrucianis
latest musings, or even the Forets in how they admit shortcomings while exposing past and ongoing issues, or those who still express great hurt from this institution.
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@susannarey313
@sojournmomma
@starcazm
It’s unbelievable. To see this as anything other than crisis management is ludicrous.
It’s akin to a husband hitting his wife, then saying he loves her and didn’t mean to do it.
Can we please not get duped again by this stuff.
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@DrSuzzle
I’ll keep saying it: I would dare anyone inspired by this statement to post,—right next to it, line-by-line—the transcript of the video that’s not two weeks old that WE ALL watched.
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@ryankondo
@reachjulieroys
@mistydedwards
True. And I’m not trying to slam you. And I should clarify, though she is for sure at fault on so many levels, leaving and the other “mystery person” are for sure predators as well, deserving of being outed again and again without restoration.
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@ihopkc
IT’S THAT DOCUMENTARY’S FAULT!!! someone get Malachi on the line; I need him to say a bunch of words that mean nothing but you can tell are supposed to make me feel better!
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@bozlawpa
@john_elving
@ihopkc
@reachjulieroys
@blaiseforet
@Joel7Richardson
I bought fell out of my chair. Hahaha
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Corporate sadness will likely be lifted up as the snake-on-the-pole from which salvation will come to deliver the institution and its leaders from public scrutiny. But let us not forget that they have only been sorry thus far for getting caught, not for actually acting wrongly.
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@isierranichole
Giving Mike Brown any sort of audience for his pathetic minor contrition is still not ok. If Joanna Lee is reposting it, it’s not ok to consider them to be “stepped over”.
Just my take.
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@7MountainsInc
Watch out,
@LouEngle
is gonna find a way to use this to grandstand, while making sure no more witches and Jezebels rise up with accusations.
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@mhairiforrest
Wanna stop people talking about ministers being rapey? Maybe don’t be rapey ministers. I don’t know. I could be off on my equations here.
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@venablefour
To see authentic apologies is one of my few cries in this scenario. There has to be some who are willing, please god, let there be some. But it’s a continued lesson in not letting these pedestaled people direct much–if any–of our hopes in this age.
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Stuart is still on base. Parishioners are still the ones told to repent. Executive teams are shrouded in secrecy. Unfamiliar leaders still speak on behalf of the institution. And those with access say the worst stories are yet to come. We should still hope, yet expect.
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Indeed, unless you’re close to them, in the public sphere they should be maligned and disparaged at every turn—Rapped with reproaches deserving of those who claim the name of Jesus and so doing ever slander His name
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@jessie_thinker
Whatever these clowns keep saying they’ve “got” on all these other people. Just release it. Ya know why? Because I guarantee the people threatened will handle whatever dirty stuff on them way better than how anyone else from ihop leadership has.
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@diosMios79
@bennettisaac
@ihopkc
But didn’t you see him crying in the service today…
then changing his tone and hand motions to look exactly like Mike.
He’s giving you all the answers you need.
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@johnlambert
@KrishanPurvis
They’re not fired by the way. They resigned from specific roles and they’re all still on base and active in communications with leaders.
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However, she is cowardly (it reads like she thinks she’s being quite strong) and her hardheadedness mixed with her spinelessness will all but silence any attempt to speak sense at any level to her. All her post says is “I am the same as these abusers, and you’re wrong for it.”
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Until there are specifics laid out with subsequent and substantial specific plans to work on overcoming those things in righteousness until the return of Jesus, we have to remember that just because people are sad, that doesn’t mean they’re repentant. Confession ≠ repentance.
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@moon_theo
@ihopkc
This is so nothing compared to what’s been revealed and what else is to come. This isn’t even the worst we expected from Misty.
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@candiceteets
It’s really frustrating because he brings up really valid points and issues, then he just snaps and turns on people if there’s a misinterpretation or slight differential in expressing opinions.
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@jessie_thinker
All that tooting your own horn is great, bro; however, the man in dubious speculation here is likely going to seriously and egregiously physically/sexually abuse someone amongst your renowned community, and that’s one thing you haven’t addressed. Instead you shamed the concerned.
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I do not expect the actions of the coming week will mirror repentance, but more disingenuous sidestepping of the real issues. However, I hope desperately that I am wrong. Specific actions of repentance by specific people will likely go on untended.
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@Abideinhim7
@ihopkc
We are definitely accusers of brethren who are sick and twisted in their perpetual abuse of innocent people. Absolutely. May the god of Israel wipe every stone of that ministry from the earth.
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@JenniferVerdery
@ihopkc
Maybe when she was 14.
Maybe 15
Or maybe maybe when she was 19
The history’s all a bit faded.
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@8rw9p7_Official
Not before the end of the day next year!!! Please tell us if we give you money.
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@ihopkc
I can hear other cries crescendoing from your own house: cries of rape, molestation, assault, abuse. And there’s for sure a movement arising from that. You’re just giving birth to wind.
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@LifeWithoutLack
@CoryAsbury
@seanfeucht
They’re mocking the grifter’s latest rant against people who’ve ever been hurt by anything. I’m here for it.
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@TheYouNoWhos
Maybe she is a victim after all—the victim we initially feared, not the victim she led us to believe she was.
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@seanfeucht
Your willful ignorance is powerful enough. Top that up with your ability to make money off of your ministry, you don’t need any help.
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I hope that this is the beginning of sincere repentance; after all, humans’ souls are on the line.
I expect it is a front, meant to soften the blow of both the devastation revealed AND the “more” that is coming.
May that truth come out and may that repentance be more genuine.
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@DavidFish7
He’s there to remind us that no matter what stance we take, we are all the chiefs of sinners. No one’s off the hook… yeesh.
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@isierranichole
The absolutely willful ignorance is staggering. Honestly, I can only comprehend so much of it.
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Maybe those intimately close to her can reach past the depths of her derangement and speak life and truth to her, and I hope it happens, truly and deeply. But this is the clamor of an enabler, just like every other bickle bot. And no real energy should be given to it.
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Predators always show their hands! Mike did it, and we caught it in retrospect. Every ministry Malachi has been a part of is deeply entrenched in child sexual abuse claims.
Now he’s here, and he’s “in”.
And he ever seeks to downplay the actions of every proven predator.
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@jonochall
@lillisb1
One word, bro. Thank you for your honesty. And as you said, my those things come to light swiftly and appropriately for everyone involved, that justice according to a coming age would be exemplified
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@realprophetguy
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call “the bottom line,” and we’d all do well to remember that.
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@gabriel_hancock
I’m not saying I called that whole thing of it being based on a technicality rather than on something regarding sexual misconduct… but I definitely did.
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@jessie_thinker
He wasn’t silent… we all literally listened to his statement from his last conference appearance. This is just PR, and if people think it’s not, Eric has succeeded better than we thought he would.
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@jburn
Ya know, I really want to like upperroom and the millers. Their worship has been a real encouragement. Their simple messages and especially their maranatha emphasis mostly sit really well. But I’m just so wary since October, and becoming more so every day.
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@SRClaridgeWrite
But yeah, don’t let the parody accounts get you down. They generally have a good and important role, especially in dealing with nunces like Brumback.
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@realprophetguy
I too would be so sick I had to resign if I knew this kind of stuff was about to get dumped.
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@AlyssaDegraff
After six months of tangible outcry from almost every sphere, this ridiculous martyr complex convinced these people to stay. At this point they had to choose to tie any livelihood to all the lies.
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@WillCab8
The one moment I know of when this guy stopped his overspiritualized grift and tried to be open and genuine about real sin he hated, and it was downplayed and dismissed in front of tens of thousands by his “friend” and brother in Christ.
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