"I Was 12 Years Old and Wearing My Pink Pajamas When Robert Morris, Now of Gateway Church, Began to Molest Me. The Alleged Abuse Lasted for 4 1/2 Years."
#Churchtoo
#ARCtoo
" New TWW post.
@ThouArtTheMan
Would love to see some of these people GROW A PAIR. Sexual abuse of a child, clergy sexual abuse = disqualification from ministry. No restoration, no financial bribes, no minimization, no disinformation campaign, just demand he immediately step down.
There is a lot to say but can I start with WOOOOF Kevin Prosch, what an absolute SOB. Damn. What a predator, manipulator, blackmailer, abuser, dear heavens. Who restored him to ministry?!? Let’s not make than mistake again.
There are John Doe victims of
#MikeBickle
as well: husbands, ex-husbands, boyfriends, fathers who were gaslit, coerced, threatened & manipulated. I stand with them too. ❤️
#clergyabuse
#spiritualabuse
I know it’s deeply unsettling to long-held beliefs, but say it with me: Bob Jones perpetrated clergy sexual abuse (including a minor) and had numerous bouts of mental instability. It is not appropriate to rely on his “prophecies” for any orthodox Christian belief foundation.
@FilmUpdates
I know we say this all the time, and everyone is tired of hearing it but, why is it this so dark?! Have y’all never seen Chinese Xianxia? Beautiful bright colors, Lens flare, CGI, pastels, sparkles. No squinting needed. Peak Fantasy. It’s not “cliche” to have adequate light. 👵🏻
@peace_got
@jude22_23
I initially shared these posts through Instagram stories. I think
@blaiseforet
mentioned it at some point as I started getting tagged by other people. Susan & I also know each and talked about it before.
Can you imagine having a divine supernatural encounter with GOD and seeing archangels while continuing to molest a minor and then expanding abuse to others? No. Not a chance. Proof it💯nevee happened. The Prophetic History is a lie, throw it all out.
Sep. 1982. St. Louis.
Mike is 27, married with 2 kids and molesting Tammy Woods who is 16…
And Mike says he has the "Most powerful encounter" on a trip to Cairo, Egypt.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#churchtoo
#cult
Vid. Part 1
I never listened to Kris and I have no intention of doing so now. This boys-club attitude of covering their buddies with “love” in their habitual clergy sexual abuse is everything that’s concerning about “honor culture.” This is the “Apostolic era”?!?! Give me a break.
Anyone still listening to Rick Joyner needs to 💯 reevaluate. I think we can conclusively say this whole “apostles & prophets” experiment has been a catastrophic failure. These are the worst “apostles” I have ever seen.
@sheilagregoire
🤣 someone abusing minors since the absolute inception of their ministry ala Robert Morris and Mike Bickle was never a “strong man of God” - they were charismatic grifters.
@Mariloveslions
@kvministries
The abdication of the “apostolic” crowd from anything remotely apostle-like is the most absurd behavior. I don’t want to hear about “the office of apostles and prophets” if y’all can’t do the bare minimum of calling out multi-victim, 40+ years clergy sexual abuse including minors
Coming out of a cult (apparently) I took a lot of cult-think into my professional job. It has required a lot of detangling of misplaced undue loyalty, lack of self-advocation and blurring of personal & professional boundaries to realize my job is not my family or my religion.
I used to tone-police people who were processing and in activated pain cycles. Like an empathetic ear who subsequently critiqued delivery and analyzed motivations. I did not know how unhealthy and abusive that is. If you experienced that from me - I deeply apologize.
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Watched
#Damsel
which is a tale of a damsel deceived into marrying a prince subsequently escaping from cult sacrifice to a dragon due to multi-generational iniquity and goes on to burn down the whole corrupt kingdom. Oddly cathartic.
Please be praying for our marriage. 🙏🏻 my husband’s actions and irresponsible behavior has finally compromised the seasoning on my favorite cast-iron pan and it will require a complete stripping and reseason so you can imagine that things are tense. 😢
It has been an absolute cringe-fest hearing other leaders talk about the Mike Bickle and IHOPKC scandal and we need to talk about spiritual bypassing. It’s not the way of Jesus folks, but it definitely seems like the way of boomers 😬
Wow what an update from IHOPKC! It’s a wonder the social media team is still willing to hit publish on these tweets. Dare I encourage them to change the password and walk away?
I say this with profound empathy: no amount of “I just want to worship” or “Jesus is worthy of 24/7 prayer” can come close to justifying this 👆🏻. I would also challenge “the Lord hasn’t told me to leave.” Everything is telling you to leave at this point. ❤️🩹
Repeatedly seen this bizarre unhinged conversation regarding definitions of rape & sexual abuse about Robert Morris & Mike Bickle. I really can’t totally tell if they don’t understand - was there some generational purity culture sex / abuse education failure? This is the truth:
If you are following the
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
scandal, please listen to Elizabeth Herder share. It is heartbreaking and powerful and will fill in a lot of the blanks behind the scenes. I will post some of my thoughts below from listening.
You have to agree that the biggest problem plaguing the church in America is that too many spiritual leaders are held to a high level of accountability for their actions and are unnecessarily disqualified from continued public ministry said no one ever.
I curious what the lying, threatening, blackmail brigade on behalf of Mike Bickle thinks they’re going to accomplish now? The Genie is not going back in that bottle. The house of cards has fallen and is falling for everything based on the Prophetic History. You don’t scare us.
As people process their experience at
#ihopkc
, if you feel uncomfortable with their tone, methods or style, remember: their processing pain is not destroying the body of Christ or hindering the Gospel: abuse, control, manipulation, unrepentant sin and compromise is.
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I wish this was satire but it’s not. This is cult speak. The 7 mountains mandate is taken from esoteric lucifarian teachings and paraded as biblical.
As a follower of Jesus I’m perplexed and concerned.
Stop following these people.
I’ve had a few ask if it was appropriate for me as a local pastor to comment on the IHOPKC debacle. The greater question is if it would be appropriate to stay silent. Do we really believe in the body of Christ, or was that all rhetoric like the international family of affection?
Paul Cain, Augustine Alcala, Bob Jones, Mike Bickle. All long-term clergy sexual abusers. They missed the whole “without mixture” from the jump. The absolute gall and lack of the fear of God in thinking that he would entrust anything of power to them. What a joke.
@starcazm
This is why we didn’t see original footage: it would have eroded the mystic. Also why Bob & Paul were talked about but rarely featured: it allowed mythology to evolve around them without the shocking disappointment of who they actually were.
A quick but important update from Kurt Fuller, Acting Executive Director of IHOPKC.
#ihopkc
Qualities Of A Leader | IHOPKC Update from Kurt Fuller via
@YouTube
Mike Bickle has been combining his “urgency of the hour” language with distorted views on sexuality & celibacy to groom, manipulate and sexually abuse young women since the very beginning. The fruit is bad, the branches twisted, the root is full of rot.
There are so many people trying to “eat the meat and spit out the bones” and they’re chewing on a mouthful of razor blades. Throw the baby out with the bathwater in this case. If it’s Gods baby, it’ll be a Lazarus.
#IHOPKC
Paul Cain was a serial unrepentant clergy sexual abuser of young men. His “prophecies” were often informed by provided information. If your favorite ministry or organization’s reason for existence depends on the “words” of these charlatans, at this point - it’s a cult.
I'm done with the word "movement" in reference to christianity. The only movement I'm interested is following Jesus as He leads His Church.
If Jesus cares about something, it'll be expressed in and through the local church.
This thread spells it out. And I hate it all so much, but
#mikebickle
and the leadership of
#ihopkc
is so riddled with complicity, expose them, bring it into the light, hold them accountable and expel them from the body if they do not repent . THAT is the apostolic response.
So 'not JDs' were included in the AG initial but not the official report and leaked by S. Greaves to them. They protested. Now we know why at least two were included, ME and CS, and why very early on ELT decided that 'affairs' would not be investigated, 'just Mike Bickle'
#ihopkc
My husband hopped on twitter to take a look around last night AND PROMPTLY LOGGED OFF. It’s a tricky place, I get it - but I’m here, I’m accessible, my real face & name holding feet to the fire. No guarantees ima do this right but I’m not leaving.
#naysayers
This cinder block thing is what you take to your therapist.
The conversation with your congregants needs to be “We were wrong, we apologize to victims we did not believe. We’ve been wrong for 20+ years. We missed this completely.”
Watch Matt Candler confuse a millstone with a loaf of bread and then jump into the ocean of his own years.
When will IHOPKC leaders center the experience and needs of victims?
#ihopkctoo
#MikeBickle
#clergyabuse
#ihopkc
Ok, so I got a little heated on Friday Night’s Open Spaces. This rant is about IHOPKCs treatment of a NEW Jane Doe that came forward to them (!?) during their “investigation” of Mike Bickle and how she was thrown under the BUS of the McNamara Report. Shameful behavior.
@jburn
was 🔥 last night on Open Spaces.
The lack of a true third party at
#ihopkc
has been so damaging: women who put their trust in IHOPKC leadership have had their stories twisted and were made out to be abusers in situations where they themselves were abused.
I echo
@EricVolz
For any investigation to be legitimate, you really need to put out, “If you have inappropriate encounters with Mike Bickle, contact our independent investigator here [insert contact details.” That y’all never remotely communicated that tells me a lot about interest in the truth.
I love Allen’s apology & commentary here. “More commitment and effort to corporate prayer does not fix organizational dysfunction, poor shepherding, and unhealthy emotional and relational dynamics.”
@starcazm
@blaiseforet
Austin, thank you for posting this. After watching the videos of Mike and myself at the staff meeting, I am deeply pained for the ways you, your friends, and any others were mistreated. This is a classic example of a deep spiritual problem that I contributed to at IHOPKC.
No slight to Jono - this isn’t for him, but Leaders can be consternated. Who cares?! Why are we treating these people with kid-gloves? If the lawyer taking abuse intakes says “this place should be shut down” maybe the better response is “what is going on in there?!” Be serious.
Just pondering the post on the weekend from Boz related to closing down IHOPKC, that has caused such consternation amongst leaders.
Boz actually apologized to the group for sending that out. Not that it is not a valid sentiment that he does not believe at this moment, simply
If a “Christian” leader ever tries to advocate celibacy in their marriage, or for others, it’s a 🚩 that the iceberg under the waterline of their worldview on the sacrament of marriage, family, covenant, sexuality, & spiritual / natural dualism is totally dysfunctional. Run.
I'll be honest, I didn't know these
@TheRemnantRadio
bros before, but listening NOW to this podcast on the
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
scandal with AG interviews. So much going on here. But I may have opinions about the need to elevate women's voices tho. 🤔
This is spot on
@DrMichaelLBrown
- if people had listened to you, advocates would have been silenced, Tammy would not have come forward, they would have swept it under the rug and moved on with a sham “restoration.” You DO need to take some responsibility for poor council.
@DrMichaelLBrown
@pastorLeBlanc
@watchkeep
I think I spoke poorly. I do not mean to imply that you supported Mike Bickle even after all the exposure. Only that if everyone involved chose silence and to stop posting on social media when you told them to, I don’t think he would have been exposed and would still be in power.
@blaiseforet
Absolutely. Stuart went TO MIKE to find out the identities of the women’s stories referenced. I mean the audacity and what guilt confirmation!! Then the MB troll goon-squad gets to work on intimidating and threatening.
The degree of Shameless behavior Mike Bickle is willing to go. Online trolls & minions, comeback outlines, publishing buddies & continued manipulation of victims. Do not let off the pressure.
Just hours before Tammy Woods’ interview with the KC Star, Mike Bickle sent her this “script” that he was preparing to use in a video to be made with his wife Diane on January 30th.
🚩 He refuses contact with outside leaders but has no problem running his ideas by one of his
I can’t help but think of the pressure Zhang Linghe is gonna have with The Story of Kunning Palace airing right after TTEOTM and all the rumors of his relationship with Bai Lu compared to her 🔥 chemistry with Lou Yunxi. 👀
@pastortheo
@CarolynUpNorth
@mistydedwards
I think we should be clear that the document presented to the ELT from the AG did not contain either Names or a List, which begs the question “who correlated to stories to specific people?” And the only logical answer is MB.
I read this and it hit me. Powerful. This isn’t just about Mike Bickle, but also this leadership ethos that it’s perfectly acceptable to grind people up and spit them out as fuel for their “ministry machine.” It’s not. To Jesus it’s not.
No amount of:
- powerful preaching
- apostolic teaching
- prophetic unction
- articulation and eloquence
- hard hitting sermons, and
- “anointed” worship lyrics
..will ever compensate for breaking something in little girls that should never have been broken.
@ihopkc
If they can’t get on their platforms and say “this guy is a biblical wolf in sheep’s clothing, we didn’t even see it, our discernment was off, we repent, let’s pray & advocate for victims” then I don’t want it. Y’all aren’t trustworthy shepherds.
Been stewing on "Manifest Sons of God" for about a week after a
@Joel7Richardson
post, and finally published a Medium draft. It is imperfect and not comprehensive, but I think we need to talk about MSG in light of the
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
stuff.
As angry as we have been with Dr Michael Brown in this process, at least he has a soul. Strang...I just can't. This is when you allow your own feelings to overrule any sense. Angling to justify a child sexual predator to be in Ministry
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
1 / In light of the
#mikebickle
and
#ihopkc
clergy sexual abuse scandal, we need more clarity across the board on the definition of “clergy sexual abuse.”
1/ "inappropriate behaviour, sexual contact, clergy misconduct, an abuse of power for a person in a position of trust or leadership"
"sexual contact" in a context where consent is not possible is, in fact, sexual assault.
@ihopkc
#ihopkc
“Keeping others’ [abusive] secrets to get God’s secrets” is NOT A THING. Not now, not in the early church, not in the Old Testament even. ANYONE who advocates this approach is gaslighting you.
Stewart: "Many of us here, myself included, we want the secret of the Lord. I really believe this, for us to receive the secret of the Lord we must know how to keep the secret of others." 😳😬😅
Mike Bickle perpetrated textbook clergy sexual abuse against multiple confirmed victim congregants of his ministry over 30+ years.
In October ‘23, he utilized his preaching platform and a “prophetic word” to intentionally delegitimize coming exposure as “an attack of the enemy.”
Early on in this situation with Mike Bickle, I was told that it’s common where a senior leader in the church is confronted with sexual sin that the process and peripheral points become the center of the story, not the leader who has fallen. It is all about distraction.
This is
@Akajohnssmith
@Realmattyoung
We can be specific: Bethel leadership knew about Bob Hartley's sexual clergy abuse behavior and prophetic manipulations and banned him from the organization without publicly or privately communicating to other ministries about what a risk he was allowing him to further victimize.
The horrors of the “Matthew 18 process” in the dumpster fire that is
#ihopkc
- a process deliberately designed by a predator that makes it impossible to actually see justice. Ironic with all their analogies of the widow and the unjust judge and crying out day and night. 😵💫
So apparently there's a coup in my neighborhood HOA right now as if there's not enough drama going on in my life. 3 new board members were just elected as a group, and have declared the existing board members "illegitimate." My husband said it's the Jan 6 attempt of HOAs.
Another former Jane Doe testimony showing how misleading
@LathropGPM
Rosalee McNamara’s investigation of
#MikeBickle
for
#ihopkc
really was. That whole “investigative report” is a sham - worthy of an ethics violation investigation IMO.
A statement by TH, one of the Jane Does who first shared her testimony with the advocacy group regarding Mike Bickle’s predatory behaviors. TH restates the need for a 3rd party investigation as the recent
#ihopkc
investigation report was “insufficient and woefully misleading”:
We need more former leaders to publicly disavow Mike’s “prophetic history.” Something doesn’t have to 💯 fake to be false. Doesn’t require fact checking and chasing down every detail as we have everything we need to know that it’s unnecessary and harmful & manipulative.
Mike doesn’t live in reality. The PH is the bizarre world he lives in & he tried to bring a whole generation into it w/him. I’m so disappointed we aren’t hearing more from former/current leaders in the movement ab this. You taught us this - signed & approved it as the foundation!
"When a madman is tearing through the streets in a car, I can, as a pastor who happens to be on the scene, do more than merely console or bury those who have been run over. I must jump in front of the car and stop it."
-Bonhoeffer
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#clergyabuse
#mikepilavachi
This has made me furious since November. The ELT knew what was up, and they knew the AG wouldn’t throw these women under the bus so they weaponized the lack of clarity as defense and Mike further exacerbated it by provided them statements to post.
@ZionConsultTeam
@adamnarciso
@iwonabednarzpl
When Stuart said the fearless 5 on the AG list were found "not to be credible" victims, he purposefully trapped the AG. He knew the AG had integrity, & they wouldn't out the victims' names and stories to defend themselves. He used their integrity against them, and it was evil.
@reachjulieroys
@ihopkc
@bozlawpa
This feels like a future case study on the absolutely worst way to handle a situation like this by their current leadership. While heartbreaking, I hope it serves as a cautionary tale for other ministries & churches.
For me, it was the example of Jesus in the Gospels that changed my perspective, and the phrase that impacted me some 15 years ago and planted seeds that changed my personal trajectory were:
“Jesus never manipulated anyone.”
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Do any seminaries or pastoral training programs or pastors/leader networks require training on clergy sexual abuse? I ask as I get an email about my ANNUAL anti-sexual harassment training with work.
I would like to see the AG champion a crowdfunded independent investigation to release a report to the public that is not so absolutely abysmal. I think that’s the best next-step for victim advocacy and justice in this situation.
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
@abele_amy95291
@PrestonSWalker
@bozlawpa
#IHOPKC
does not need to give their permission for an external investigation, like what you see in media exposé’s. The facts just need to be verified and documented for defense against slander / libel lawsuits. I have been a part of many of these kind of investigations (not of
@SolarChildX1
I am a part of a global 24/7 prayer movement. It is called the Body of Christ. A hundred years after IHOPKC has disappeared my prayer movement will continue just as it has day and night for thousands of years.
When I go to sleep my brothers and sisters in the underground
@blaiseforet
Forerunner Clock Institute. In retrospect, you can see so clearly Mike's dysfunctional leadership style of surrounding himself with yes-men, not having humility or listening to wise counsel so clearly demonstrated even in parody.
@itsjohnny_pd
@EricVolz
Absolutely. There is no good faith presumption anymore. If you thought things would be different with “different” leadership, it’s time to face the music. It’s deeply unfortunate.
But He DID step in when Peter’s violence resulted in the harm of another in the garden of Gethsemane.
He didn’t cover for his own in the victimization of another.
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Specifically being told to keep a secret. Told to pray WITH MIKE and make a “vow BEFORE GOD” to never tell anyone else about a situation that involving their mistreatment, wrongdoing or abuse. That is some crazy messed up abusive behavior and the moment I hear that, I knew…
Mike Bickle once asked someone very dear to me to “make a vow before God to not tell anyone ever about” a complicated situation. One does not break out of that degree of control & manipulation easily.
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The part about Mark absolutely broke me and made me enraged simultaneously but his story is familiar, and we will be sharing another story that corroborate that experience of male partners being absolutely gaslit & spiritually abused by Mike intentionally and with malice…
@EricVolz
I’m sorry, the anti-Jane-doe clown show of a document is hosted on the same Dropbox account of your “independent investigator?!” You have got to be kidding me.
But emotional processing is messy with wild pendulum swings from aggression, sarcasm, mocking, and anger to brokenhearted, despondent, defensive, avoidance, and total denial. It is especially hard for a community that has been primed to keep secrets.
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💯 your ministry / organization/ church does not need a “pet vision” from dreams / prophecy / supernatural signs. Hoping Allen & Sam also come to recognize this as they start the journey to evaluate the “prophetic history” (and hopefully throw it all out the window).
@mistydedwards
Praying for brave women to find their voice and speak out “in their own words” against Mike’s clergy sexual abuse! Overcoming by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony. Here’s one more! 🙏🏻
Years later, I would hear a new phrase in my heart:
“Jesus didn’t tone-police anyone.”
He didn’t say, “Thank you for this alabaster box but we need to address appropriate time and place..” He did not correct the grief outburst of Lazarus’ family at his absence...
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