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@ChristnNitemare
This is weird & gross. He makes a point to describe the woman as ‘beautiful’ and ‘perfect’….like dude how disrespectful to your wife. I mean the whole story is a dumpster fire.
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“The alleged suicide of a prominent pastor’s wife from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina – and the bizarre way in which it was announced to members of her church – has sparked a flood of speculation and concern along the Palmetto State coast”
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Sam Rader hasn’t changed a bit. He just learned how to monetize faux repentance.
#ashleymadison
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@tilley_dane
@JoeHemstock
@fireflymagnolia
Jesus wouldn’t even do what you have done here. What a shameful thing to do to your wife. I highly doubt her ‘sin’ caused a miscarriage, but you need to feel powerful so you publicly shame her. What a man…
“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil…” Isaiah 5:20
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@JulieAMeyer
“You see the blessings God has poured out on my life and conclude it is because I have hidden my past.”
YES
#robertmorris
that is exactly why you got rich - DECEIT. You lied to everyone to hide your crimes.
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@sheilagregoire
@_jaystringer
I assumed this was from a marriage conference…but it was a SUNDAY MORNING SERMON. Good heavens how completely inappropriate, misogynistic & just plain awful.
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“During Covid my pastor said we should not be afraid to orphan our kids so we could be in church in person.”
She lays out the *REAL* reasons so many pastors threw a fit about in-person services.
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Do NOT let the elders
@GatewayPeople
fool u into thinking 'they didn't know'...they definitely knew, b/c some of the men on that elder board in 2005, '07, '08, '09 (relevant dates) are either STILL elders or on staff. Let's take a look....(screenshots from The Wayback Machine)
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Well if you hadn’t exploited your children for selfish gain, maybe you could sort it out in private MICHELLE. But since you & JB made your children perform, you have some public answering to do.
@duggarfam
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@jdice03
It was Rick Hilton. Virginia Roberts Giuffre wrote about it in her book (included in recently unsealed court docs)
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Friendly PSA that the church you attend is not your 'family.' You will find that out as soon as you disagree w/the wrong person, challenge leadership, or expose abuse. Then your 'family' disowns & shuns you.
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@DeeGoingsGirl
Thank you Dee for sharing. It’s important for ppl to see how Josh’s ‘joke’ has harmed & continues to harm women.
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Church attendance is in steady decline...meanwhile...
"If a little joking around every now & then is gonna bother you, gonna offend ya, we're probably not your church."
#joshhowerton
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“I’m going to be fired soon for not honoring his vision.”🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Because who better to mansplain womanhood, than this guy!”
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@FENFreeEagleNet
@GatewayPeople
Of course…I found a random Gateway member’s FB profile & photoshopped an entire FB post to make it look like they are a rape apologist.
You have got to be kidding….
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I wrote a post 4 yrs ago for a dear family who experienced spiritual abuse. They helped expose a pastor who engaged in CSA (& other issues). He recently applied 4 ANOTHER ministry position. The church googled his name & found my post. He didn’t get hired. This is why I do this.
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“If we saw anything, we would call the police.”
RECORD SCRATCH
I responded, “No, the police shld be called the INSTANT an allegation is made. Churches aren’t investigators & should not be doing internal investigations.
NO RESPONSE from the church. Tells me all I need to know.
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@ChristaBrown777
This is why I call this type of abuse ‘rape of the soul’. Clergy abusers use the VERY WORDS OF GOD to ravage the souls of their victims.
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@Theholisticpsyc
I parented from the negative-gave my kids what I needed as a child (stability & structure) but not necessarily what THEY needed. I knew what NOT to do, but not what TO do. I apologized to my kids for not knowing what I did.
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“I looked for the girls that would be the most susceptible. and I learned how to spot this in girls.”
“I looked for girls that did not have a good relationship w/their father.”
“I looked for girls that were insecure.”
@psmorris
@gatewaypeople
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#joshhowerton
you are not pastoring a 15-20k member church. YOU ARE NOT. You are a motivational speaker & very few ppl have access to you. Stop it.
The megachurch model is BAD. Here’s why:
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We were taught that Jesus actually changed the water to GRAPE JUICE, not wine, because alcohol was a symbol of sin.
#ChristianAltFacts
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True story: Visiting a new church & asked about child protection policy. They have cameras, do background checks. COOL COOL…
I asked-what would you do if there was an allegation of abuse? Their response? “We would review the cameras & talk to everyone involved.” (cont)
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Get a load of this-
#joshhowerton
gaslighting us on this fine Wed. He is literally out here defending his plagiarizing an apology! I don’t care if
@jobymartin
tattooed it on your arm-you shouldn’t be using another man’s apology. Run Lakepointe ppl…RUN
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Attn: Current or former
@GatewayPeople
employees-If you signed an NDA or any other sort of confidentiality agreement & have knowledge of anyone at the church who knew or had suspicion of a child being abused or technically had knowledge of a crime, the NDA may not be enforceable
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Pastor told us American Airlines would not allow 2 Christian pilots to fly together in case the rapture happened.
#ChristianAltFacts
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“What did the obituary fail to mention? That Miller sued her husband for divorce two weeks ago … papers he was reportedly served with just forty-eight hours before she died.”
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It was a learning opportunity for this church. I wasn’t being rude-I was asking questions that EVERY person shld ask the leadership in their church. I bet most people don’t know how their church would handle an allegation. Have you asked?
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@ChristnNitemare
I’m gonna clap back with “If Jesus & the disciples didn’t wear it, then neither should you.” Pack up those skinny jeans boys, lets get back to 1st century basics.
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“For years, she’d approached Christian leaders with her story of child abuse. Nobody did anything.”
Thank you
@Wade_Burleson
for guiding Cindy to Dee. Wise choice!
Do you want to see a picture of Cindy (who is beautiful inside and out) in the here and now with her family? Wade Burleson just posted her story with beautiful photos. Yes, he's the pastor who told Cindy to contact me.
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“He was restored to the pulpit a little over three months later following a "profound time of healing”
A 3 mo paid vacation basically….hunting in CO, attending the Acts29 Gala….COME ON
@MattChandler74
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STOP GIVING! STOP GOING!
@GatewayPeople
The only way to choke out these predators is to cut off their supply of access & money.
Robert Morris:
-teaches you will be curses if you don’t tithe
-gets 1-2 months paid vacay every year (they call it sabbatical)
-tried to buy Cindy’s silence for 25k
Stop giving. Stop going.
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“Well why didn’t she say something sooner?”
This is why.
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I’m just gonna leave this here….
TX megachurch pastor
@howertonjosh
may hv plagiarized pastor
@jobymartin
in Howerton's apology to his congregation last Sunday. Howerton’s apology, which concerned a wedding night “joke,” was almost identical to apology given by Martin 2 yrs ago. 1/2
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Good God….what this woman went through…then to be revictimized OVER & OVER by
@Scientology
When is their tax exempt status going to be revoked…because this is basically a mob organization operating under the guise of a ‘church’.
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I’ve obtained the full victim impact statement that Jane Doe
#1
aka Jen B, one of the women Danny Masterson was convicted of raping, read in court last week.
I am publishing the complete statement because it's so harrowing and detailed, and I think everyone needs to read
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If
@psmorris
was a doctor, wld it have been ok for him to abuse a 12 yo? Could he have just asked the medical board for forgiveness & promise not to do it again?
NO…he would have been reported to authorities, lost his medical license, & probably never practiced medicine again
“Should you ask [those same churches] should a physician be able to have “consensual” sexual contact with their patient they would probably say “Oh my goodness, absolutely not”, should a psychologist be able to have “consensual” sexual contact with their patient - absolutely
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According to this Reddit post, there is supposed to be an all-staff meeting this week at
@GatewayPeople
If anyone can record this PLEASE DO. Send to
@wartwatch
@watchkeep
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“Girls were made to be held by men.”
“But once you get married, you don’t have to sneak around anymore.”
“I wasn’t blessed…I was cursed…multiple multiple affairs.”
How was this guy EVER in the pulpit??
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Yikes…this is a little difficult to watch.
#joshhowerton
@noedenelsewhere
He made the most cringe-worthy video about sex with his wife where she said the Holy Spirit convicted her to have more sex with him and I wondered just how bad in bed a man could possibly be if divine intervention is required to convince his wife to have sex with him.
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No, they aren't being truthful.
Current elders Kevin Groves, Garland Lawshe & Steve Dulin were elders when Cindy contacted Robert Morris in 2005 & in 2007, when she was offered a settlement.
THEY KNEW
Gateway Church has finally sent an email to church members. Anyone on staff, elders who knew Robert Morris abused a child should be gone already.
#shewas12
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Trying to explain to a megachurch pastor that sex jokes are inappropriate in church sermons was not how I planned to spend my Thursday.
@_MommyIsALawyer
@howertonjosh
@tx_pilgrim
Serious question here and trying to understand your pov. Do you get to speak for all women here and say it’s not funny? If Josh’s wife and / or the women at his church thought it was funny…..is it funny???
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“Despite statements from elders of Gateway Church in Southlake, TX & their founding Pastor Robert Morris suggesting that he stepped away from ministry for 2 years 2 undergo a carefully monitored restoration process following a "moral failure" he was back in ministry just 1 month”
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THIS IS WHY THE CHURCH IS IN CRISIS.
Horrific responses like this…victim blaming a 12 yo. How low does your moral compass have to dip to be considered a degenerate thinker?
Barbara did say something interesting…if the preacher is enticed by the 12 yo, their future is ruined.
I have steam coming out of my ears I’m so f’n mad. I share this not to amplify utter insanity but to illustrate the evil we are battling. The call is coming from inside…😤
#shewas12
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Church is hard these days. Doesn’t really matter if you go to the service…no one will talk to you or acknowledge your existence & the only way to connect is to show up at some random person’s house on a weeknight.
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Taylor is a pastor (according to his bio). He told me to ‘take the L’ concerning my post on Josh Howerton’s defense of plagiarism. I think the can of worms has been opened….
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*Me taking note of all the pastors high-fiving disqualified pastor Mark Driscoll for casting out the spirit of Jezebel at the cirque de soleil strong man rally *
#marksriscoll
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@toddstarnes
@NYTLiz
@nytimes
@propublica
@JerryFalwellJr
Are you kidding? There was a signed petition protesting the return of students due to concerns of COVID-19. Now students HAVE contracted it after returning, and he has the gall to file lawsuits?
@reachjulieroys
Nearly 10,000 hv signed petition urging
@LibertyU
Pres
@JerryFalwellJr
to extend spring brk & move classes online due to COVID threat. But Falwell, who suggests media coverage is "attempt to get Trump," remains defiant; calls parent “dummy” for objecting.
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@melissajenna
I have 30 ppl coming to my house on Sunday. I am officially the GRANDMOTHER. (Gen X)
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Hey
@GatewayPeople
do u really think this letter will absolve your pastor?
SHE WAS 12 YEARS OLD. IT LASTED FOR 4/12 YEARS
God have mercy on all of you. This is pure evil.
In an email to Gateway Church staff, elders & Robert Morris confirmed the survivor Cindy’s story. He admits to sexually abusing her & doesn’t deny that he offered her money in exchange for her silence. She was 12 years old when the abuse began. That’s a child not a “young lady.”
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Apparently Miller groomed her when she was in youth group.
This is near us. This guy is a false teacher, abuser, and apparently groomed his now late wife since she was in youth group. Tragic situation, I pray the truth prevails and justice is served accordingly.
Hopefully this wolf will at minimum forever be out of the pulpit if
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@JennMGreenberg
Need a hashtag for this!
#gladtobealive
I was born illegitimate from an affair, my stepfather molested me, my mother was an alcoholic & abusive. I’ve been married 29 yrs, have 3 amazing grown children who are contributing members of society. I refused to be a statistic.
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Well this aged poorly
#robertmorris
#joshhowerton
Hang onto your seats…the full video is infuriating.
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@laurchas22
Her parents….what were they thinking? This reminds me of that situation with Natalie Greenfield & Jamin Wight at Doug Wilson’s church. The family invited him to stay b/c he was a student at the college.
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@motherpilled
3 births & 3 epidurals here. THANKED THE GOOD LORD ABOVE for pain relief & no adverse effects at all. No one gets a ‘natural childbirth’ trophy when they eschew pain meds.
By your logic we should avoid all forms of pain relief. You prob have some OTC pain meds in your house.
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@watchkeep
This letter enrages me. The minimization, the ignorance of sexual predatation, the manipulation. God this is awful.
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@harmonizedgrace
This may have worked for you, but it’s not the norm. I spent a lifetime ‘ignoring’ my trauma, only later to realize the unprocessed trauma was affecting my health & relationships. Only after trauma-informed therapy was I able to live a happy & healthy life.
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Very concerning information about John-Paul Miller
A protective order? Slashed tires? Where’s the preachers phone data? Did he make a late night trip to NC?
#justiceformica
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@lurioosi
@SlowToWrite
Yes, please tell us how you justify disciplining a precious innocent 4 mo old baby.
Sick
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@Theholisticpsyc
Yes! My therapist taught me to ‘respond, not react’. I cannot stress enough how much I learned in therapy. I believe that EVERYONE can benefit from it.
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It’s not a lack of biblical preaching-it’s a lack of accountability structures & a HUGE lack of education on grooming, abuse & how to care for victims.
My abuser preached the gospel….and was a wolf in sheeps clothing.
It’s not the theology.
The reason why we keep having church scandals like the ones at Gateway church with Robert Morris is because the church isn't preaching the Gospel of Sin, Brokenness and Repentance anyone. Lets get back to preaching the true gospel message.
#ihopkc
#christiannews
#gatewaychurch
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To add: It’s obvious the elders of this church do not care what he does or do not have the power to correct him. Either way, they are spineless cowards. Yes, I said it.
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@sheilagregoire
Let’s not forget this cringey video where his wife said she apologized to him b/c she was tired & wasn’t keeping up with performing her wifely duties.
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Jamie Ivey out here posting IG reels about Aaron….nope. Big NOPE.
Where does naivete’ cross over into delusion, then to cognitive dissonance? Aaron has REAL victims, who are now speaking out.
What did
@TheAustinStone
know and when did they know it? That is now the question.
I am so angry. So, so, so angry for the ways predators are allowed to destroy the lives of our most vulnerable all under the title of shepherd and after they are exposed the Eva machine keeps going. Books must be sold, podcasts must be made, money and power reign supreme.
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@church2healing
@reachjulieroys
@ccsouthbay
Let’s not forget the parents that were groomed to accept that this was ok to do to their kids. The hype is insane - slick PR w/videos, testimonies, etc. What these parents did was pay for the traumatization of their own children.
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@wartwatch
“He is now well-known for his outspoken support of hardline conservative positions on issues such as abortion & divorce, even though he divorced his first wife, Melissa, whom he said he "loved for 21 years," & remarried her best friend Tai Cowan McGee, in 2018.”
Raging hypocrite
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To the woman that
@MattChandler74
threw under the bus in this podcast-it was NOT your fault. It was 100% the responsibility of Matt to maintain appropriate boundaries. He holds more power in the relationship b/c of the professional nature of his office. Don’t feel shame or blame.
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“John-Paul Miller publicly announced his wife’s death at the conclusion of his sermon last Sunday (April 28, 2024) – giving his parishioners strict instructions not to discuss it amongst themselves.”
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She recently posted a youtube video about domestic abuse.
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Everybody knew about Pressler…and did nothing. Pressler had power & money-that’s all anyone cared about.
Shame on
@woodfill
@HoustonsFirst
& all the other ppl & institutions who turned a blind eye to Pressler’s predatory behavior. How many victims could have been spared?
#BREAKING
The Southern Baptist Convention and others have settled a high-profile sexual assault lawsuit against former leader + Texas judge Paul Pressler, ending a six-year legal drama that prompted a reckoning over child sex abuse in evangelical churches.
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@PaulieBelfast
@savvymegs
@natgrace79
Some sex offenders are not on the lifetime registry list, usually determined by their assessed level of ‘risk’. My ex-BIL is on the registry for 20 yrs, but that can be reduced with good behavior, etc. I don’t like that at all. He did some horrible stuff.
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I’ve interacted w/several ppl, just today, who ran to Gateway leadership’s defense…”they didn’t know!”
We now know that was a lie. What else will they lie about? The elders at
@GatewayPeople
are untrustworthy & disqualified from the office they hold. They ALL must go.
The complete statement by Cindy Clemishire in response to today’s announcement by
@GatewayPeople
.
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@William_E_Wolfe
@johnmacarthur
@CTmagazine
@DavidAFrench
@kkdumez
The truth doesn’t need your support. It stands on it’s own. God help you for defending GCC now that the truth is coming to light.
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Update on former
@GatewayPeople
exec pastor/elder David Smith from
@watchkeep
blog.
Smith was recently arrested in FL for a DUI. Guess he still exists after all.
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It is VERY ODD that there is no local news coverage about the man who committed suicide at the front door of
@Prestonwood
on Dec. 6th. According to this article, there were possible allegations of abuse of minors by the man.
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@watchkeep
@SouthlakeDPS
Un-freaking-believable.
Of course some of those Southlake PD officers make a little $$ on the side directing traffic for
@GatewayPeople
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“Lakeside Baptist said they immediately suspended Cunningham and conducted an investigation.”
Churches have no business conducting investigations. Any allegation must be IMMEDIATELY reported to law enforcement. Churches are not trained investigators.
41-year-old Luke Cunningham was arrested near Lubbock on Wednesday.
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Ok so all of these ppl rubbing shoulders w/
@PsRobertMorris
- you need to know that an alleged victim of his came forward today.
@drphil
@lisabevere
@stevencurtis
@iammiketodd
@michaelwsmith
@derwinlgray
@greglaurie
@craiggroeschel
@JoyceMeyer
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@darafaye
These stories of abuse at the hands of RELIGIOUS parents is horrific. Those parents are so twisted that they can’t be untwisted. Lock them up & throw away the keys.
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@sheilagregoire
“One mom reported to me that her child, who has a limb disorder, was greeted at children’s ministry with the comment, “what sin did you do to deserve this?”
I am horrified.
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@lancewallnau
Let me simplify it for you: It doesn’t matter when Robert Morris became a Christian; he sexually assaulted a 12 yo-it continued for 4 1/12 years. That is evil & insidious.
Olen Griffing knew, and has been a mentor to Morris for decades, now on staff at Gateway. .
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@wartwatch
@GatewayPeople
They have a multi-million dollar empire to protect. It’s never about the victims.
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The ‘Robert Morris Effect’
@watchkeep
I cannot believe how many people are coming out as pedophile apologists. Sin leveling is disgusting
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ATTN PASTORS: If you start the discussion, at least have the decency to see it thru & listen to concerns being raised. A 🧵
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@thescottbarber
@SlowToWrite
This is a conversation that needs to be happening, b/c it is a belief in some Christian sects-that infants are sinful & need correction right out of the womb. I seeing this in reformed & IFB circles. This abusive & dangerous teaching needs to be addressed & abolished.
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@itsabentworld
@sheilagregoire
b/c Christian men have been conditioned to believe that they have some uncontrollable lust monster living inside of them & that it’s a woman’s responsibility to keep them from lusting. It’s the tail wagging the dog.
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This is exactly what happened with
#robertmorris
What is equally horrific is Debbie Morris knowing about it all these years, benefitting from the lifestyle like Carmela Soprano. She was prob manipulated by Robert on some level…but a grown woman knows raping a child is a crime.
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Watch who follows you…Gateway’s PR is watching.
I once was suddenly followed by Mark DeMoss during the Ravi Zacharias scandal…he was snooping.
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@sheilagregoire
It is literally exhausting. These men patting themselves on the back for doing the BARE MINIMUM is so childish.
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So after I posted this along with
@amandafromtx
, the video is suddenly password protected.
That’s ok though…because I downloaded the whole thing. I knew his little minions would alert him that his trash teaching was getting strewn all over these streets.
Well this aged poorly
#robertmorris
#joshhowerton
Hang onto your seats…the full video is infuriating.
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Kudos to this Gateway employee.
(Screen grab from. Reddit)
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