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Predicted: When
@davedummitt
's 5-year contract runs out in ~May 2025, he's gonna dump
@willowcreekcc
so fast & shift over to his lucrative real estate "hobby", & the church will name Megan Marshman and betrayer Shawn Williams as co-lead pastors. Like Carter & Larson, take 2.
So
@davedummitt
came on as the senior leader
@WillowCreekCC
in May of 2020. Since then, financially, the place has been going in one direction.
Dummitt has never apologised for his vicious public betrayal of victims of sexual abuse & ongoing institutional betrayal in May of 2021
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Hi
@bartbarber
Are we to understand, then, that the SBC can disfellowship from Saddleback because they have female pastors, but can do nothing about senior pastor Steve Fehrman publicly speaking to survivors of child sexual abuse by a pastor like this?
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Hi
@Jentezen
. I see you are scheduled to speak at Gateway Conference in September. You may wish to be aware that their senior pastor, Robert Morris, repeatedly sexually assaulted a 12 year old girl, and the elders refuse to hold him accountable.
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@EricVolz
Hi Eric. Here's where the high powered law firm IHOPKC hired openly brags about beating victims of sexual harassment and sexual assault in court, and thus protecting the institutions who betrayed them:
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In case y'all forgot, Rosalee McNamara "investigated" clergy sexual abuse
@ihopkc
for
@lathropgpm
, and she literally included a quotation from the perpetrator but NOT from the victim, although she did interview the victim, thereby centering the predator not the victim.
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@howertonjosh
@tx_pilgrim
You could have instead written "I have been made aware of the horrifically traumatising and dehumanising nature of marital rape. I was wrong to joke about it. I'm sorry to the people I've hurt. It's my fault. I'll try to do better."
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1/ This is one of the more vicious, slimy examples of impression management I've ever seen,
@bennettisaac
,
@7mountainsinc
. The pastor of
@ihopkc
uses his pulpit to suggest that the ravaged sheep need to repent.
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So
@EricVolz
&
@ihopkc
WILL share the names, without permission, of whistleblowers, but WILL NOT share the names of their own board of directors.
@reachjulieroys
@bobsmietana
@CTmagazine
.
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@EricVolz
It's mildly astonishing to me that you think this makes you look better, when in fact it makes you look even worse.
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1/ Hi
@Blaiseforet
@reachjulieroys
@bozlawpa
. I see that
@lathropgpm
, who were chosen by
@ihopkc
to "investigate" sexual abuse with zero consultation with victim-survivors, completed a similar investigation for
@servants_word
. Let's see how they did.
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1/ You guys. If
@revjamesrobison
had sexual interaction with a 17 or 18 year old single woman, when he was aged 36 and a famous evangelist and also her employer, landlord, AND pastor, that 100% constitutes clergy sexual abuse.
@reachjulieroys
@bobsmietana
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@shawnbolz
What a disgusting response. Who wants unity with child sex predators and elders who cover up for them and let them 100% off the hook for ANY consequences?
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@sheilagregoire
Hi Sheila. Dr. Judith Herman, in interviewing victims of abuse, learned that one of the things they want, in terms of justice, is for their perpetrator to be deprived of undue honour in the community. Not sure you can simultaneously do both.
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7/ "...sexual misconduct"
I can see why the Jane Does
@ihopkc
don't trust
@lathropgpm
, and want an independent investigator that's not going to so carefully minimise such horrific violations.
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@reachjulieroys
As a note, by reckoning, Julie Roys is a fiercely courageous and 100% trustworthy journalist who has been a tremendous boon for the church, and for victim-survivors. I'm grateful to her.
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You guys. An astonishingly horrifying timeline of abuses
@ihopkc
. You guys. An astonishingly horrifying timeline of abuses
@ihopkc
, from
@thearmchaircom
.
In case you've not seen this,
@bozlawpa
@reachjulieroys
@blaiseforet
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@JaneDoeGroup
Fascinating that it took Tammy Woods 43 years to stop telling people she was never Mike Bickle's victim. What an astonishing courage she must have, to be able to finally tell the truth after so many decades of being gaslit and Institutionally Betrayed. What a hero she is.
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I wonder if Rosalee McNamara feels profoundly embarrassed about this report.
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@DrLoritts
Are you familiar with the term DARVO, Bryan? In case not, you can read about it at
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@judylthomas
I'm profoundly grateful to you, Judy Thomas, for creating a safe space for this profoundly courageous hero of a woman to tell her story.
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#Fascinating
the similarity between Mike Bickle's claims about being the victim and Eric Volz's claims about being the victim. Not much apparent empathy here for the real victims of clergy sexual abuse and institutional betrayal.
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1/ "In recent years, I've begun to contemplate the idea of a 4th & final stage of recovery, & that is justice. If trauma is truly a social problem, & indeed it is, then recovery cannot be simply a private, individual matter."
~Dr. Judith Herman, "Truth and Repair", Introduction
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@malachiobrien
@reachjulieroys
@johnmacarthur
It's makes sense to me that a member of
@ihopkc
's cowardly anonymous board would be celebrating a cleric who has been so vicious to women.
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1/ Time for some Impression Management / Image Repair Analysis on
@MikeBickle8
of
@ihopkc
fauxpology from earlier today. In Bickle's first 157 words, we see differentiation, transcendence, reverse-victimisation, bolstering, boasting, minimisation, and ingratiation. Hi
@EricVolz
.
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1/ In February 2018 (latest possible date)
@ihopkc
learned that staff member Brad Tebbutt had repeatedly sexually assaulted a teenager over whom he had clerical authority as her youth pastor. They kept Tebbutt on staff for 5 FURTHER YEARS.
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It's ... kind of scream-inducing that
@mikebickle
was sexually preying on children EXACTLY like Brad Tebbutt did. No wonder
@ihopkc
chose to keep Tebbutt on staff for years after they knew of his predation. In both cases the predation started when victims were age 14. Horrifying.
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@bozlawpa
@reachjulieroys
See for example the IAG thing
@willowcreekcc
@glnsummit
, where victim-survivors poured their hearts out to totally unqualified "investigators" only to have all their testimony essentially cruelly buried. It was horrific and heartbreaking =*(.
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@reachjulieroys
@revjamesrobison
Horrific way they treated the victim-putting her in a meeting with the perp & multiple white male pastors who were inevitably on the side of the perpetrator. Horriffic. Such a meeting would have been an absolutely-fucked-up retraumatisation of the victim. Probably they got an NDA
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10/ For contrast, please do have a look at the words
@netgrace_org
used to describe unrepentant sexual predator cleric Brad Tebbutt's, whom
@iphokc
chose to KEEP ON STAFF for years, repeated sexual assault of a teen girl:
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@bennettisaac
Hi Isaac. Are you able to tell us whether child sex predator Brad Tebbutt is still working in either a paid or a volunteer capacity
@ihopkc
?
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2/ Keep your eyes out for a DARVO, non apology apology, probably involving the Ambien defense, coming soon.
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I see
@ihopkc
's unrepentant sexual predator founder Mike Bickle was very careful to set himself up an an excuse for when he did drive his car to any of his victim's houses.
.
@ihopkc
Fndr Mike Bickle had “sexual contact” w/ a 2nd previously unreported Jane Doe, accdg to a report from IHOPKC’s highly-debated 3rd-party investigation released last night. Bickle also “more likely than not” abused his power. 1/3
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@JPatchHall
@bartbarber
Sadly that's not how it works. Steve Fehrman's church will rally around and support him, casting him as the victim here. The SBC will ignore his disqualifying cruelty.
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@NatalieFrisk
@laurambarringer
Yowser. Literally all 4 of Carey Nieuwhof's most recent 4 episodes are with abusive leaders or those who are actively enabling abusive leaders. Bananas.
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@EricVolz
@Rpanozzo88
for later, when
@ericvolz
Minister of Truth(iness) deletes this one like he deleted so many others, here's a screenshot
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I'd like to point out that the cowardly
@ihopkc
leadership team, unlike the profoundly courageous Tammy Woods, are STILL anonymous.
Words cannot express the anger, shock, heartbreak, and sadness we have experienced as we have learned of allegations and testimonies of sexual abuse and manipulation concerning Mike Bickle, founder of IHOPKC.
We believe that Mike Bickle sexually abused and manipulated Jane Doe
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8/ This has been a thread looking at the words used by
@latropgpm
in another "independent investigative" report for another religious organisation where horrific repeated sexual assault and rape of children happened, with a view to why Jane Does
@ihopkc
might not trust them.
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2/ "Whatever wounds have been caused, whatever transgressions that have occurred, whatever iniquities that go back would be covered by the power of the blood and there would be a new testimony and a new story," says Isaac Bennett. Such VICIOUS use of passive voice.
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@EricVolz
@samueljhood_
Amazing. Precisely one of the people in this conversation was paid really exorbitant amounts of $$, $$ that should have ultimately gone to victims of clergy sexual abuse and institutional betrayal, to post on social media. And it's not Samuel hood.
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Imagine if
@EricVolz
had the cojones to do an interview with
@reachjulieroys
, rather than a weak softball interview with an insider and supporter.
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4/ Bennett uses many words--"wounds, transgressions, iniquities" to UTTERLY REFUSE telling the truth of what happened: decades of multiple sexual predator clerics targeting, grooming, sexually harassing & assaulting then throwing away too many women, then institutional betrayal.
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3/ You will note that passive voice sentences have no doer--no actor. "wounds have been caused". There's no wounder in this sentence. "transgressions have occurred". There's no transgressor in this sentence.
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I wonder if Rosalee McNamara yet remotely understands the magnitude of the betrayal in which she allowed herself to be made complicit?
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9/ Naming matters--a truth that became extremely obvious in the case of unrepentant sexual predator cleric Bruce Cavey
@TheMeetingHouse
, where profoundly courageous advocate
@djstrickland
successfully stood up against such lawyerly minimisations. Google it.
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Hi
@EricVolz
-- is this how you had so much success with many previous cases with the
@TheDavidHouse
, by just publicly obviously lying to everyone on behalf of your client, like you're currently doing for
@ihopkc
? I genuinely wonder how you're going to salvage your brand
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6/ I wish that
@bennettisaac
& every single person who heard his vicious, slimy sermon would read "Understanding Sexual Abuse by a Church Leader or Caregiver" from
@mccpeace
, folks who have truly done the work of understanding this issue.
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Gratitude to
@ihopkc
@bennettisaac
@kurt_fuller
@joseph_a_taylor
for today, 24 February 2024, finally removing the books of unrepentant sexual predator cleric founder Mike Bickle from your online bookstore. Now please add big warning on prophetic history
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@bennettisaac
Isaac Bennett, openly making himself the victim, is straight up DARVO, given his ongoing complicity with ongoing vicious Institutional Betrayal of victims of clergy sexual abuse.
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2/ With astonishing courage, Jennifer Roach publicly reported that Tebbutt had repeated raped her from the age of 14. Tebbutt lied to investigators, saying he never raped her even once.
@ihopkc
chose to believe predator Tebbutt, and continued to give him access to teenage girls.
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2/ Is General Kurt Fuller able to point to ANY previous successful experience with addressing and reducing incidence of sexual violence, during his long and successful career in the U.S. Army? If not, how is he now qualified to address decades of sexual violence
@ihopkc
?
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2/ Regarding Ed Conlin's rape and sexual assault of at least two girls, including one 13 year old girl, here's a comprehensive list of the words LathropGPM used to describe this sexual abuse and rape of children:
"conduct with a minor, conduct with youth, conduct, conduct ...
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3/ "...concerning behaviour, a physical relationship with a minor that was sexual in nature, conduct with a minor that was clearly sexual and possibly criminal, conduct, relationship with minors, relationship with those minors, relationship with minors, past conduct, ...
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@Joannathelee
@bozlawpa
@EricVolz
me, sitting here thinking about
@joannathelee
kind of publicly pitting her background, knowledge, expertise, experience, and record, her legend, as it were, against that of Boz Tchividjian, in the area of clergy sexual abuse, and just shaking my head.
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@malachiobrien
@bozlawpa
Are you posting this officially as a member of
@ihopkc
's cowardly anonymous board, or just as your own personal opinion?
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1/Here's some of the language used to describe sexual abuse of boys in this article:
"having sex with students"
"having sex with teenage boys"
"GT & the teacher had been intimate"
"had sex 4-5 times"
"oral sex"
"the relationship"
"an explicit relationship"
"had sexual relations"
It is super inappropriate and gross that
@reachjulieroys
published a piece that repeatedly describes an adult woman sexually abusing boys as "having sex with students."
Adults do not "have sex" with children. They abuse children. This is Abuse 101!!
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5/ The consequences of clergy sexual abuse and institutional betrayal in the lives of the victims include overwhelming fear, guilt, anger, shattered ability to trust, feeling unsafe, feeling dirty, ashamed, devalued, sleeplessness, eating disorder, loss of intimacy, ...
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7/ “I felt the silence that surrounds sexual violence. I saw how that silence isolates survivors, protects perpetrators, and allows for the community to support rape culture as ignorant, passive bystanders.”
~Sarah Super, in ~Judith Herman, "Truth and Repair", Introduction
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So now we know
@ihopkc
's Mike Bickle sexually abused at least 2 young women under his care/leadership/authority as a clergyman. I hope you guys know this means there were many more such young women abused by him, including at least one in 2022-2023.
#InstitutionalCowardice
.
@ihopkc
Fndr Mike Bickle had “sexual contact” w/ a 2nd previously unreported Jane Doe, accdg to a report from IHOPKC’s highly-debated 3rd-party investigation released last night. Bickle also “more likely than not” abused his power. 1/3
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5/ ... sexual abuse/sexual assault of children:
"interactions with children, conduct that was in violation of child safety rules, conduct that violated child safety rules, violations of the child safety rules, conduct that violated the child safety rules, ...
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3/ Looks like "pastor" Olen Griffing, who almost certainly has known that Senior Pastor Robert Morris of
@gatewaypeople
was a child sex predator for more than 35 years, is "an Apostolic Elder of Gateway Church".
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@7MountainsInc
@bennettisaac
Ah. Mate. I'm so sorry
@bennettisaac
's ongoing dark-side leadership has deceived you. =*(. Repentance begins with confession. Confession means saying out loud, together.
Here's what hasn't been said out loud, together: Decades of clerical sexual abuse and institutional betrayal.
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3/ "I propose that survivors of violence, who know in their bones the truths that many others would prefer not to know, can lead the way to a new understanding of justice. The 1st step is simply to ask survivors what would make things right-or as right as possible-for them."
~JH
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3/ Do these seem like questions that should be addressed,
@blaiseforet
@joannathelee
@bozlawpa
@sstrang
@reachjulieroys
?
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@EricVolz
notice how Volz states that Jane Does testimony is not evidence, then immediately clearly implies that Mike Bickle's testimony IS evidence.
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@RLStollar
This guy also seems unable, in some kind of absolute sense, to consider or platform a woman's, any woman's, view on sex, or literally anything at all about female sexuality as distinct from male sexuality. It's kind of amazing/horrifying to watch.
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4/ "... past conduct, past conduct, past conduct, interactions with minors"
Regarding Jamie Treadwell's sexual assault & sexual abuse of girls including a 5 year old girl, here's a comprehensive list of the words Lathrop used to describe this ...
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@HeavenBentPod
Wow. Straight up DARVO.
@ihopkc
, very much ongoingly the perpetrators of Institutional Betrayal of victims of clergy sexual abuse, here portrayed as the victims of "outside bombardment"
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@reachjulieroys
@ihopkc
It's deeply #!@$!% outrageous that leaders
@ihopkc
are encouraging trauma victims to seek help internally at this irredeemably toxic organisation. To do so will definitely only lead to more harm. It makes me want to scream.
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6/ "... violations of the child safety rules, violation of a child safety rule, violating child safety rules, violating its child safety rules, violation of the child safety rules, child safety violations, violations of the child safety rules, allegations of criminal ...
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@EricVolz
In which spokesperson for an irredeemably toxic religious organisation Eric Volz proclaims, ex cathedra, as it were, that the Fourth Estate is irrelevant, and that astonishingly courageous testimony from a victim of clergy sexual abuse does not constitute evidence.
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@PsTomLane
Seems like maybe hurt people in very high leadership positions in churches utterly fail to report repeated sexual assault of a child by a pastor to appropriate law enforcement authorities, and utterly fail to immediately disqualify such predators as pastors.
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@TracyMilstead
@ChristaBrown777
I can neither confirm nor deny rumours that recently a copy of Baptistland was delivered by Amazon to
@bartbarber
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@DrMichaelLBrown
@EricVolz
So odd how both you and
@ericvolz
seem unable to understand that victims of sexual harassment & sexual assault in a religious institution would very sensibly refuse to participate in an investigation run by a law firm who brags about beating such victims in court.
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@aaronjhann
"In a...study by Dr. P.V. Wyk, 23 offenders in her incarcerated treatment program entered the program admitting an average of 3 victims each. Faced with a polygraph & the necessity of passing it to stay in treatment, they revealed an average of 175 victims each"
~Dr. Anna Salter
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@Joannathelee
@bozlawpa
@EricVolz
for those wondering what clergy sexual abuse is, here's an excellent explanation from
@Baylor_SSW
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11/ [I will remind the reader that
@pstomlane
100% knew that Robert Morris had repeatedly sexually assaulted a 12-year-old girl, and that he had covered up that crime, when he invited Morris to write the foreword to his book about God speaking to children.]
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@malachiobrien
I see you subtweeting about profoundly courageous journalist Julie Roys. I reckon you must be bananas to put your own reputation up against hers.
#bimbw
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2/ I learned this method of analysis from
@jdahlmd
(see her pinned tweet) who followed the work of
@MelFisher13
. Let me know if you spot anything I missed--I'm newish to this. Here are the 4 not-Christian categories of Image Repair.
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2/ "If trauma originates in a fundamental injustice, then full healing must require repair through some measure of justice from the larger community."
~Dr. Judith Herman, "Truth and Repair"
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Hi
@EricVolz
@bennettisaac
@ihopkc
are you able to confirm that child sex predator Brad Tebbutt has also "permanently separated" from IHOPKC, like unrepentant sexual predator founder Mike Bickle has?
@reachjulieroys
@bobsmietana
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@reachjulieroys
@OrangeLeaders
I'll bet you a bottle of wine that "inappropriate adult relationships" will turn out to be Impression Management for clergy sexual abuse. I can almost feel the intense behind the scenes cover-up and betrayal happening right. now.
#bimbw
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I'd like to point out that
@ihopkc
are still today selling the books of unrepentant sexual predator founder Mike Bickle in their online bookstore.
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Do you guys think if a public figure writes effusive public praise for another public figure, then the person being praised turns out to be a sexual predator, that the person who wrote the praise has an obligation to publicly correct the record?
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1/ A thread of quotes from the 2018 document, available on Amazon, entitled "IHOP Kansas City Leadership Review", from five authors labelled
#thefearlessfive
Coming soon:
IHOP-KC Leadership Review Group
Aka
Black Horse Circa 2014
Aka
The
#fearlessfive
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