Tim Meshginpoosh
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Software engineer🖥️ aerospace engineering grad 🚀✈️married💒 ✝️ endurance cycling 🚴 #prolife #LifeIsEndurance #NeverQuit #EmbraceTheSuck
Kentucky, USA
Joined November 2022
"You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end, which you can never afford to lose, with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be." --Vice Admiral James Stockdale.
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Steve Lawson is not a victim of Satan. His wife is a victim of his own treason. He did not "fall" into sin; he dove into it with great enthusiasm.
I'm saddened by this news. Steve Lawson is a beloved teacher and has been a mentor from afar. This is a sobering reminder that Satan hates God's Church, and will do anything to subvert it. Fellow pastors, guard your eyes and hearts. Your congregations depend on you.
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For one, if a woman comes to church after a workout, then great: she could have gone to Starbucks to wind down, but instead chose to come hear the preaching of Scripture and take part in the life of the Church. Good on her.
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@JulesDiner @SameeraKhan Once I was teaching a Bible study, and a young mom started breastfeeding right there. I kept teaching. I figured she was feeding her baby, we're all grownups, and there's no need to make a mountain out of a molehill. Everyone was fine. No one's faith was imperiled.
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What the SBC ought to say:. We are absolutely devastated at the reality that a terrible sexual predator, Paul Pressler, has abused an unknown number of boys and men in our ranks, on top of hijacking and controlling our convention for most of the last 45 years. May his money.
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@LauraRbnsn We have one from a shelter. The other one had moved into a home in the neighborhood, but they couldn't keep him. So when my wife was out for a walk, they asked her if she could take the cat. Guinness, a hugger, took a liking to me immediately. His favorite place is my chest.
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Charisma is not character.
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This statement is problematic. (a) That they are using a law firm to conduct the investigation is not, in and of itself, bad. But they are limiting the scope to what happened from 1982-1987. They also need to include in that scope all the years since. Including the life of.
BREAKING: Robert Morris has resigned from Gateway Church in Southlake, Texas. Story to follow.
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Church Calendar:. David Raped Bathsheba.Billy Graham Rule.Modesty<---YOU ARE HERE.Yoga Pants.Leggings.Should Beth Moore go home?.
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@emilykmay Speaking from a basic undergrad engineering education (not an expert opinion), I'm surmising that at that depth, the water pressure is probably so high that having windows of any type would create a structural stress concentration that may pose a safety hazard.
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@ToddHarding_17 @emilykmay They don't want a wife. They want Rosie the Robot, with Sexbot option.
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In another life, I was a spokesperson for a maternity home. Was on their board. Most clients were teenagers who'd been kicked out of their houses b/c they refused to abort. Those were some awesome baby showers we had back then. Go pound sand.
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Beth Moore is the female version of Mr. Rogers, but more conservative. If you liked Mr. Rogers, you love Beth Moore. If you dismiss Mr. Rogers, you dismiss Beth Moore. If you think Mr. Rogers was a net-positive, you'll think the same of Beth Moore. From what I studied of Mr.
@megbasham Megan, I’m going to tell you why I don’t dialogue with you in the event I’ve misunderstood you. It seems to me you only address me when you don’t like what I say and want to take me on. Twitter wore me out on that kind of interaction ages ago. It’s exhausting and it only leads to.
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@WomnOfValor Truth. If a man has a lust issue, it won't matter if she wears a burka; he will find a way to lust. Lust is always on the one doing the lusting.
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@emilykmay I used to be a member of a prominent gun range. They specifically PROHIBITED using pictures as targets. (Exceptions, of course, were made for pics of Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong-un, etc.).
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@ashbinks2588 ECMO? . My daughter was on that for most of her first week after birth. It was 5 long days. It was harrowing, but she made quite the successful exit. During that time, another kid landed on ECMO due to a staph infection. He also made it out.
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The fact that you have to tweet like this tells me that you still cannot surmount the "above reproach" requirement. No, church office is not about "zero defects", otherwise no one could be qualified. But if you were already ordained, and broke wedding vows, and--worse--did so.
10 years ago, I crashed. I cheated on my first wife and lost everything. Some believe such failures permanently disqualify a person from ministry. However, there isn’t a single passage in Scripture that even suggests a universal, lifelong ban for every minister who has fallen.
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🧵now for Part 2. Typically, when a revered minister goes down in a sex scandal, a block of followers--sometimes the minister himself--will appeal to King David as a case for restoration to office. After all, David was allowed to remain on the throne.
And when you get the opportunity, you will jump on it with gusto. Just like King David. Next thread, we'll talk about that. End part 1.
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from Cindy Clemishire:. "The leadership at Gateway received actual notice of this crime in 2005 when I sent an email directly to Robert Morris' Gateway email address. Former Gateway elder, Tom Lane, received and responded to my email, acknowledging that the sexual abuse began on.
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This diagram is stupid. With Christ, you don't need the other umbrellas.
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@914Ann @Eric_Conn I've known a fair number of women who had reduction surgery. Back issues were always the driver.
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Even if you're a hardcore patriarch, this line of thinking doesn't make sense. If the husband embraces unhealthy--even heretical--theology, it is not the wife's job to absorb it, critically or uncritically. Nor is it the husband's job to make her think a certain way. Husbands
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Uhm. Patrick, this isn't helping your cause. There is nothing wrong with @sheilagregoire's response here. Sheila and her team did a legit scientific study; the results cast light on the ramifications of some of Shaunti's teachings; and Sheila did her best to approach this with.
@sheilagregoire @vhobbs5 Again, people can see some specific examples of your behavior here:
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"Ladies and gentlemen of Gateway, we have devastating news. We have learned that the pastor, Robert Morris, has misled us and lied to us about his past, and has admitted to conduct that is disqualifying, not to mention criminal. Based on his own timeline, and corroborating.
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It's important that Robert Morris's peers--fellow pastors--call him on the carpet. Thank you, Rick.
I’m angry & disgusted to hear of Robert Morris’ sexual abuse of a child & heartbroken for Cindy Clemishire. To sexually use a 12 yr old child, then continue it for yrs, is not merely an “inappropriate relationship.” It’s a crime. Sexual child abuse is an evil punishable by law.
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The silence of the SBC with respect to Paul Pressler has been nothing short of breathtaking. None of the powers that be--from @bartbarber to @albertmohler to @DennyBurk or @andrewtwalk have bothered to weigh in on the magnitude of the damage wrought by Pressler, or speak to.
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🧵.Image Repair Analysis, Gateway Elders' Email to Members. Here we are, a week after @wartwatch and @watchkeep broke the story of Robert Morris and his 4-1/2 year stretch of sexual abuses of Cindy Clemishire from the time she was 12 until she was 16. Since then, . (1) the.
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I have found it mind-boggling at how many men, totally content with branding David a murderer, will fight like Hell over any suggestion that David was a rapist. They go to great lengths to assign blame to Bathsheba, even though the Scriptures do not do this and, in fact, the.
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I've been observing @BethMooreLPM on Twitter/X for about 6 years now. And this right here is what distinguishes her from others: her willingness to "own it" when she steps in it. She also did this with respect to the Covington Catholic dustup a few years ago. Why do I say this?.
I don’t like how the last sentence of this tweet sounded. It lacked humility. It’s sorta grossing me out to look back on it. I’m sorry, you guys. I was bewildered and frustrated and should have stopped with the first tweet. I am forever in a battle with my own mouth. Forgive me.
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It's almost comical watching these theoboys lecture the world about Beth Moore, but they won't confront their pedo Godfather. I don't want to hear another word from you about your Manhood ™️. Just shut up and #GoHome.
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@antifaoperative Only a 5 year max? For 2 counts of rape w/victims < 14 y/o? That's like .40 lashes with a wet noodle. Shoulda been life/no parole.
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Beware of any church leader who fashions himself as a "prophet" or an "apostle". Not one of them called out Robison, Bickle, Morris, or any of their co-conspirators. They're a bunch of ear-tickling grifters who wouldn't know the Truth if it bit them in the Blessed ASSurance.
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@samcoleofboston @AlsoACarpenter Non-marital sex. While I'm a conservative on that front--I see the Scriptures as affirming only that between a husband and a wife--I sure AH don't want a government using its technological apparatus to snoop in everyone's bedrooms either. A government with the wherewithal to.
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I was not aware of what went down in 2016. What I thought was telling, though: when MacArthur--who isn't even a Southern Baptist--told Beth to "Go home", NOT ONE SBC leader had the stones to get up and say, "John, quit making a mountain out of a molehill. Beth is not an elder.
@wartwatch @KelleyMMathews This article was good for me to read for a number of reasons, not the least of which was the closing exhortation. Yes, I hear you. Yes, I needed to hear it. But a couple of things I’d like to say in response: . What I wrote in that post to Southern Baptist women had been on my.
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@TomBuck Pastors who commit treason against their spouses--often by feasting on members of their own flocks, which amounts to clergy sexual abuse--don't constitute a rebuttal against @aimeebyrdPYW. I've got women friends I've had for > 30 years. I've got women friends in the Twitter.
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Elders at Gateway knew. They all need to go. They all need to be defrocked. Some may need to be prosecuted. If you are a member there, you need to be demanding heads on pikes. Be prepared to eject. #SheWas12.
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My points here:. (1) We cannot conflate God's forgiveness of grievous sin--and THANK GOD for that forgiveness--with restoration to office. (2) We cannot conflate God's forgiveness of grievous sin--and THANK GOD for that forgiveness--with a lack of consequences.
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@LauraRbnsn 20 years ago, I remember saying that bots would be a massive flop. I totally underestimated human depravity on the margins. Still, my observation is s-bots they are fringe at best. The men who "do" them aren't the kinds of men that women are going to want to be around anyways.
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@MandyLHughes @emilykmay Yep. But in this case, you had them taking a sub > 200% of the rated safe depth. (It was only good for 1,300 meters, and the Titanic is at 4,000 meters.) . This was a disaster waiting to happen.
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In Scripture, teachings about modesty involved avoiding being showy. It generally involved not being ostentatious about your wealth or sophistication. Now can someone dress in a way that is showy in a sexual way? You bet! Men and women alike do this.
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@bozlawpa It's bad enough that she named Hunt's victim. But what she did was worse than that: she did that to MINIMIZE Hunt's offense by DARVOing that victim. It's the same crap she pulled on Jen Lyell. Megan Basham is a cruel person.
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(2) While your sins are forgivable, your service to the Church includes forgoing any return to church office. The Church doesn't owe you a job.
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🧵Image Repair Analysis, Tony Evans Statement. For context, here is the entirety of the statement:
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For one thing, for a pastor to appeal to King David as a pretext to sidestep the Biblical requirements for eldership (1 Timothy 3) is an exegetical no-no. The offices have different requirements, and completely different duties. The only King in the Church realm is Jesus.
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@emilykmay I married late. But I do my own laundry (I will not subject her to my sweaty gym clothes), I handle most of my meals (I prefer to do that due to convenience). She does handle most of the other laundry and most of Goober's meals. It's tradeoffs. Most sane couples probably do.
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🧵Hyles and Patterson. The consequences of appeasing abusive Church leaders. Once upon a time, there was a very renowned pastor by the name of Jack Hyles. Maybe you've heard of him (/s). He was highly-regarded by Baptists in both IFB and SBC circles. Why? Hyles revolutionized.
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🧵.Let's look at the use of Image Repair by the folks at GCC in response to reports by @CTmagazine and @reachjulieroys. Back story: we have one woman excommunicated for leaving an abusive husband (who was subsequently convicted of sex crimes & sentenced to life). And.
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This is the last I'm going to say with respect to @albertmohler's commentary regarding Paul Pressler. Al, first, thank you for finally speaking out about Pressler. It was a long time coming. Yes, it was woefully inadequate, but it was definitely more thought-out than the.
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Malachi, sit down. You've spent no small amount of time gaslighting on behalf of Bickle. And now the truth that you have covered for a sexual predator--I'm assuming unwittingly--is irrefutable. The implications of that are staggering. It means that . (a) you have at least.
I have been at a loss for words the last 24 hours…. I have a few weak words now. Perhaps better words in the days ahead. The current leaders, missionaries, worship leaders, & staff @ihopkc are broken before the Lord and earnestly seeking His face. Please lift them up in.
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In other words, if you are a member at Gateway, you either (a) must eject and get you and yours the Hell out of Dodge, or (b) MUST hold the elders' feet to the fire and DEMAND full transparency. This statement from them strikes me as Damage Control. You have no reasonable basis.
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🧵RE: Steve Lawson .Part 1 of 2. I'm old enough to remember the PTL scandal. I attended an AoG church in those days: where I went to college , the AoG church ran a van to pick folks up who wanted a ride to church. And I had no car. So I attended the AoG church.
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Truth be told, theologically I'm closer to Steve than I am to Andy. Still, we need to hold the line: We should all want repentance and restoration (to the Body, not the office). We should also want good for all victims of his actions. And we must demand honesty and transparency.
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I'd say the same for a man who might come in sweats or shorts after a workout.
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@sharmutal @NiohBerg He was waving at his nephew, Hossein--who was also being hanged--trying to reassure him. Majid was very defiant. Ballsy move on his end. Textbook way to "die well".
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What would I say to these "fallen" ministers?. (1) First, be honest about what you did. This was not an ooopsie. You cut corners on integrity. You took what wasn't yours to take. You put your own gratification ahead of the vows you made to your wife, God, and the Church.
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Think of all the pastors who wear attire that accentuate their bodies, or wear makeup to be telegenic. You think THEY aren't advertising sex appeal? Please. So when we talk about modesty, let's be honest about it: ultimately, it's about not being showy,.
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Elders do not have such authority, and the requirements for eldership are stringent, summarized by two key words: "above reproach". A pastor who violates his wedding vows is no longer "above reproach", and arguably may never be able to surmount that bar.
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Any word on Paul Pressler and the damage he has wrought?.
"The transgender revolutionaries want our children: And Ohio’s Republican governor gets their applause with a veto." . My column @wngdotorg today.
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HIS or HER being showy, on the other hand, has nothing to do with YOUR lust issues. I'd bet that if she dressed conservatively, anyone with a lust issue is still going to lust after her. Ditto if the pastor wore a suit: those inclined to lust are still going to lust.
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What good Image Repair might look like from Robert Morris?. "First, to Cindy Clemishire:. I dispute nothing in your account. I am the guilty party. I did great evil, and continued that evil for years. I did great harm to you and your family. No amount of "I'm sorry" is going to.
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The actions of which Dr. Michael Brown stands accused of committing, would be immediate firing offenses at almost every secular workplace in America. A company that tolerates that conduct would be forced to fork up $$millions in fines and civil penalties. Let that sink in.
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🧵Bart, in all fairness, I realize that, as President of the SBC, you don't have a lot of power to take action. You can't flip a switch and excommunicate anyone, or disfellowship a church, or fire the President of an SBC entity, or dictate policies to state or local bodies.
I want to acknowledge kindly the people who have asked, either directly or indirectly, for me to offer comments about sexual abuse cases that have been in the news. I have this to say….
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But if you're a Christian, you should be rooting for folks like Lily Phillips--and the stupid men who want to take up her offer--to reconsider their life paths and embrace one that includes regeneration and real love.
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This is because an elder must also have a good reputation among outsiders. A pastor who violates his wedding vows rightly earns contempt from outsiders, and his continuation in the office only exacerbates that contempt. There is no undoing that.
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As I've said, a simple criminal background check would have kept him at bay. This was a terrible, egregious due diligence failure. There is no excuse for this.
Brandon Meeks was a rising star among conservative and Christian intellectuals, but his impressive resume took a hit this week by claims he had misrepresented his academic credentials and was convicted of a sex crime in 2017.
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@antifaoperative @Pevenly1 Judah was doing well with the foster family, but these kinds of disasters are what drives the good foster families nuts: the system is bent on "reunification". That is all well and good if the biological family gets their collective, crap together. But a lot of times, that.
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@AlinejadMasih Glad to have you here in the States. I hope you are better-protected here. My Dad came here 60 years ago. Became a Naturalized Citizen. Lived the American Dream. The Islamist regime over there is total poison.
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@lancewallnau Except some of his Gateway elders WERE among those who knew the full story (Olen Griffing). And others (Tom Lane)--in 2005--were made aware of Cindy's backstory, so, at best, they failed to do their due diligence. Morris tried to lowball Cindy's attempt to get him to compensate.
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What Morris did there is a clever Image Repair tactic. I dubbed it INOCULATION. Why?. Here's how it works. The preacher may be involved in something really egregious. It could be any variant of sexual immorality, criminal offenses, etc. So what he does? He will spent a LOT of.
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Conclusion: this statement has nothing to do with compassion or empathy for you or the victim, and is totally board-centered. It is, like everything else they have tried, hot garbage. They all need to resign. They all need to be defrocked. Some of them may even need to be.
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What Meg did here is either gross negligence or outright malice. There is no universe where this is ok. Unless an alleged or confirmed victim comes forward and goes on the record, you don't name them. This shouldn't be that hard. And where on earth were the editors?.
I'm still working my way through Meg Basham's new book and will have some thoughts, but want to note that she goes out of her way to name the woman who credibly accused former SBC President Johnny Hunt of sex assault. I can't think of a single journalistic reason to have done so.
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@seanfeucht Acting like a corporation, and then using the Bible to silence victims and their advocates, is not "acting Biblically". And sometimes those lefties--whose theology and politics vary from mine--have better integrity than those on the right who ought to be doing the watchdogging.
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🧵This time, I'm going to address Owen himself, not the issue of what we should or should not do with the unsavory aspects of Elisabeth Elliott's third marriage. Owen, your line of argument is both telling and instructive. It reflects much of what is wrong in evangelicalism.
The targeting of Elisabeth Elliot and Lars Gren's marriage (which may well have had real problems) accomplishes a vile effect:. It makes it harder for complementarian couples to be honest about the imperfection of their marriage, as we all need to be.
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The two are separate issues. As for modesty, I'd say rather than hard enforcement, simply foster a culture by setting the example. But don't get in a hooey over a woman wearing workout clothes. If she becomes a regular attender, she will likely adjust. Ditto for the guy. Even.
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@realprophetguy Larry Nassar is doing a life sentence for doing to his victims what Robert Morris did to Cindy. #SheWas12.
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70 years ago today, a 21-year-old North Korean fighter pilot--Lt. No Kum-Sok--flew his MiG-15 to Kimpo Air Base in South Korea and defected to the United States. He told the Air Force, "I want to be an American!". After extensive interrogation, he eventually got his wish. He came
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Well, this is quite the spin on his end. I can't say I'm completely surprised. I'm seeing TEMPORAL DISTANCING, MINIMIZATION, TRANSCENDENCE, and TRIANGULATION. They put major emphasis on it having been 35 years ago. (That's the TEMPORAL DISTANCING.) They focus on the repentance.
In an email to Gateway Church staff, elders & Robert Morris confirmed the survivor Cindy’s story. He admits to sexually abusing her & doesn’t deny that he offered her money in exchange for her silence. She was 12 years old when the abuse began. That’s a child not a “young lady.”
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Image Repair Analysis, Gateway/Robert Morris Reponse to his sexual abuse scandal. For context, here is the Victim's side. Also, here is the statement by Gateway (Thank you @watchkeep).
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As someone astutely pointed out: if it was Andy Stanley, Steve Lawson's fans would be dunking all over the place. But they go easy on Steve because he was in their camp.
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🧵.Discerning between Damage Control and Good Image Repair: What does a real apology look like?. Case study: Robert Morris, Gateway Church.
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(3) David arguably sought to make it right with Bathsheba. After all, he did promise to make their son Solomon his successor as King. You, the minister, should seek, as far as it depends on you, to make it right with those you wronged in your predation.
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But here's where I'm going. (1) When someone is engaging in sexual self-destruction, and they invite you to take part in it, you need to consider that, by accepting that invitation--no matter how consensual--you are engaging in predatory behavior. Why do I say that?.
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But let's go back to King David. While many a pastor appeals to David as an example of restoration, I've never once seen such a one sign up for David's consequences. And David's consequences were far and wide. Let's look at them.
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