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Just moved into a new place (in a new state) and doing kind of an online housewarming party. This was an unexpected life move so a gave away or trashed quite a bit of my stuff to get out of KC quickly.
Here’s a link to my wishlist:
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I say these things with a broken heart. I loved IHOPKC and planned to serve there for as long as I could.
I loved the prayer room, I loved singing, I loved leading internships. But as the days went on my gut kept saying “somethings not right” and I couldn’t unsee, hear or know.
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I’m mad today. I’m mad on behalf of Jane Doe. 1/2
She did use her name. Her own husband read her story in front of IHOPKCs leadership team who were their friends! They know her name, they know her family.
🚩Her account isn’t different!
Yet her account was minimized
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I wasn’t planning on ever releasing an official statement about IHOPKC, however I felt the need to make it clear that this wasn’t a life transition for me, it was something forced upon me.
I had no options lined up but I knew I had to stand for my convictions and conscious.
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🧵Some other 🚩s for me as as I resigned from IHOPKC after 15 years due to handling of MB allegations
🚩 “stay off social media”
🚩 “don’t listen to outside voices”
🚩 to IHOPU students : “don’t call your parents”
This is cult-like control.
God have mercy
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If you follow Lance Wallnau or adhere to any of his teachings in any way, this tweet should be your final sign to stop and return to the simple gospel.
🚩🚩🚩
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I’m over it.
The only “movement” I want is Jesus.
🚩 I’ve seen too many people “sacrificed” and discarded for the sake of a movement.
This is not the way of Jesus.
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Some other 🚩🚩🚩 for me as I decided to resign from IHOPKC after 15 years due to handling of MB allegations
🚩leaders asking to trust completely “suspicion is of the devil” & then asking “no one is recording this right?”
We have to trust you completely but you don’t trust us?
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Very sad and mad today. So many of us came to IHOPKC innocent and with pure intentions and behind the curtains there apparently was immense darkness.
It’s so hard right now to untangle and find the good.
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@ihopkc
I am confused - General Fuller doesn’t tolerate rumors but this was posted by IHOPKC spokesperson yesterday?
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You know what’s crazy…
After all my posts last night about the IHOPKC “prophetic” history. I woke up and felt guilt and almost a fear of speaking out against it.
That is how manipulative it is.
Come out from under it
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The fruit of IHOPKC’s “prophetic history” in my life has been an elite spirit, a fear of missing out on what God is doing and a heavy yoke that Jesus did not ask me to bear.
It’s not for me any longer.
Throw it out
Disavow it
Call it what it is - manipulation.
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Some other 🚩🚩🚩 for me as I decided to resign from IHOPKC after 15 years due to handling of MB allegations
🚩vague first statement on allegations.
🚩no moment offered to mourn together corporately and ask God for help and mercy.
🚩 Oct 31st service and no apology for it
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Some other 🚩🚩🚩 for me as I decided to resign from IHOPKC after 15 years due to handling of MB allegations
🚩no initial communication or meetings with worship teams - expected to “keep the fire burning” and keep IHOPKC going. Without worship teams IHOPKC wouldn’t be IHOPKC.
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Moving to Michigan on Monday.
Car Packed ✅
Random stuff stored✅
Kinda free falling into whatever’s next - no job yet. Am I crazy? 😂
Can only go up from getting away from the IHOPKC dumpster fire, I hope? ✌🏻
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I am thankful to finally hear some ownership from IHOPKC, but if I’m honest I’m also mad that it’s taken this long.
People plead with ELT, with tears, since almost day 1 for a response like this.
I’m mad on behalf of Jane Doe whose story was minimized over and over.
Words cannot express the anger, shock, heartbreak, and sadness we have experienced as we have learned of allegations and testimonies of sexual abuse and manipulation concerning Mike Bickle, founder of IHOPKC.
We believe that Mike Bickle sexually abused and manipulated Jane Doe
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Heartbroken and angry all over again.
🚩🚩🚩 this is predatory behavior🚩🚩
My friends still at IHOPKC - reach out if you want to talk or cry.
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🚩🚩🚩
“There can be instances where someone who is younger or subordinate can try and seduce a minister”
Uh yeah. And that minister can say “no”
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I thought I was mentally prepared for this but the loneliness of moving to a new city, leaving behind the community I was established in for 15 years is hard as crap.
The fallout from IHOPKC really does touch everything.
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The tomb may be empty but we still need that mutually agreed upon third party investigation.
#ihopkc
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Are we just all be pranked by whoever runs IHOPKC social media?
Self awareness level 0
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Shared from Facebook - some thoughts on my last night in KC.
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Says the guy who pulled up and held a worship event at the George Floyd memorial site….
The dissonance here is astounding.
Far too many are grifting off the tragedy & pain at IHOP to build their own platforms as the “trauma and abuse experts” who must police everyone else.
You are not bringing healing to anyone but more division while driving attention to yourself. It’s sickening. Just stop.
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On Oct 17th, We all heard Mike Bickle manipulate the “prophetic” history to try and preemptively minimize Jane Doe’s abuse allegations.
IHOPKC - This should be enough to let it go, disavow it, throw it out and get back to the simple gospel.
God have mercy 💔
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My last 🚩🚩🚩post of the evening
Ex IHOPKC spokesperson says even more unbelievable things
I don’t even have words.
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An update - I landed an apartment today 🥳😭😅
Me trying to find a place to live by Sunday while processing the IHOPKC news and sorting through very limited rental options.
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Mike Bickle used the IHOPKC “prophetic” history to bolster his image and people’s perception of him so he could hide predatory behavior.
He used it to ostracize voices of concern and call them “barking dogs”.
It is manipulation.
I renounce its influence in my life.
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Something concerning I picked up on aprilrose189 video yesterday.
Talk of a “true” form of IHOPKC emerging that is the IHOPKC that Paul Cain and Bob Jones prophesied about.
MB is setting up for a comeback and it’s gonna be even more of a cult than the original. 😵💫
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I agree with this statement from Aaron.
I left IHOPKC with no options of other work lined up , etc. It hasn’t been a planned “transition” it’s been an upending of my life, but something I had to do.
Re: IHOPKC Staff departures & the benevolent "blessing" by
@bennettisaac
and
@ihopkc
leaders for us to pursue other kingdom assignments. Brothers, for once in this horrible process get honest and humbly tell the truth:
1/ Here's the matter, it's still manipulative rubbish. God
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🚩🚩🚩
I’m sorry, but what?
Vague, misleading spiritual word salad.
💔 IHOPKC 💔
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I gave my late teens - mid thirties to IHOPKC, I gave my time, emotions, and passion. I fought and cared for hundreds of young adults that I discipled - ones that I still care for and would fight for today.
Now I’m labeled “these people” by a hired spokesperson.
Heart breaking
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Today at the normal church I attend, a pastor prayed Ephesians 1:17 and it made me sad that verses like that are triggering & tainted for me because of Mike Bickle and the residual fall out and trauma of the IHOPKC scandal.
He stole from all of us.
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My “something is not right” moment for Robert Morris happened years ago when I read his book on finances and he said that he would look and see what his daughter’s boyfriend was tithing at the church as a prerequisite to them dating.
It was a no for me then.
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So many thoughts and emotions right now regarding the IHOPKC news.
Empathy for my friends still involved there and what this means for their lives.
Even though i left in January - IHOPKC was such a huge part of my life since I was 14. Heart breaking to see it end like this.
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Some other 🚩s for me as as I resigned from IHOPKC after 15 years due to handling of MB allegations:
🚩 No ownership or specific apologies for:
Minimizing Jane Doe 1’s allegations
“Hello IHOPKC!” message on Oct 31
Presenting McNamara report as truth and an end to the crisis
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@BrumbackMike5
Things shutting down is not the fault of the AG.
People who should feel regret
Mike Bickle
Stuart
Eric Volz
Current executive leadership team
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Mike Bickle used pieces of the “prophetic” history to groom and abuse women.
He used it to build a legacy for HIMSELF
He used it to keep many overworked, underpaid, and in fear.
IHOPKC:
Throw it out
Disavow it
Renounce it
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Today is 8months since the Oct 24th meeting where allegations against Mike Bickle were brought to IHOPKC leaders.
I feel like I’ve been living in an alternate reality since that day.
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Unbelievably disturbing.
Instead of standing up against abuse of a CHILD Lance Wallnau goes after a pastor who actually had the guts and courage to say something.
Political idolatry in the church needs to die.
This is not the way of Jesus.
🚩🚩🚩
The Truth About Rick Warren-
His outspoken outrage is uncharacteristic for the man who who prefers to avoid hot devisive topics, ever since helping Obama become President. He urges his Pastors to avoid Trump and electoral politics even at the moment their disengagement will cost
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The crisis at IHOPKC is far from over.
This man built the foundation, told its stories, raised its money, and taught 90% of its messages.
God have mercy.
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I’m gonna let Ben’s 🚩🚩🚩 stand for themselves, but I am highly disturbed by this but also thankful for Tammy’s courage - her story has stopped MB in his manipulative tracks.
Just hours before Tammy Woods’ interview with the KC Star, Mike Bickle sent her this “script” that he was preparing to use in a video to be made with his wife Diane on January 30th.
🚩 He refuses contact with outside leaders but has no problem running his ideas by one of his
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Last week IHOPKC presented the McNamara investigation report and said we could move on and heal.
No we can’t.
Anyone that didn’t see it then can see it now - the McNamara report was weak, not thorough, and contained lies. 🚩
The full truth is needed. The truth will set us free
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It’s like clockwork these days - a whistle is blown about a church leader’s abuse and then another leader says soemthing like this.
I want to believe it’s just a coincidence, but I’ve seen it too many times.
🚩🚩🚩
#ihopkc
#gatewaychurch
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I don’t know this lady, but it’s comments like this that aren’t helping current or former IHOPKC staff in any way.
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Here’s some truth regarding IHOPKC “prophetic” history:
You don’t need an abuser, telling another abuser to tell you to pray, worship, etc..
You have the Bible. It is enough.
The PH breeds an elitist spirit.
I am deeply sorry for the ways I personally bought into it.
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💔
Sometimes ihopkc news just hits me like a ton of bricks.
Too much.
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I’m mad today. I’m mad on behalf of Jane Doe. 2/2
I find myself on the edge of angry tears as I think of this.
🚩Her story was ENOUGH for a real response.
I am disappointed in people that I know and looked up to that did not respond.
God have mercy.
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Yikes.
🚩🚩🚩
I believe in personal prophecy but also believe in therapy and counseling.
Pitting them against each other is gross.
People suffering in silence with mental health issues for years cause of the stigma statements like this one brings.
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I’m mad.
Here we have someone who spoke on behalf of IHOPKC implying that JD1, JD2, TH, Tammy, Gracia, and many other voices that spoke out about abuse over the years are “Satan”
This is not ok.
I hope whoever is left over
@ihopkc
renounces this.
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Me leaving IHOPKC and moving to a new place without any job details landed. 😂
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@seanfeucht
Aren’t you the guy who held a
promoted worship event at the George Floyd memorial? Did you not also capitalize on people’s pain? 🤷🏻♂️
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🚩🚩🚩 “accuser” 🚩🚩🚩
No more defending predatory men and their institutions.
This is sick,
@charisma_news
The latest accuser, Tammy Woods, now 57, alleges that Bickle sexually abused her in the 1980s when she was just 14 years old.
Read Now:
#CharismaNews
@ihopkc
#MikeBickle
#abuse
#churchleadership
#investigation
#ministry
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@EricVolz
Is this tweet still representing the executive committee? I am shocked that they would want rumors being spread from their official spokesperson
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@starcazm
What gets me is that according to Jack Deere, MB knew that Paul used genealogy software to add to his prophecies.
Yet when MB started talking about him again he called him the most accurate prophet he knew.
Bolstering Paul’s image in order to bolster his own. 🤬🤬🤬
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Who is running the IHOPKC Twitter??
“Sorry it’s not meeting your needs or expectations”
Not a good look.
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The amount of shock, heartbreak, disbelief, loss of the last 6 months of this IHOPKC mess is too much at times. 💔
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This is a must listen to in regards to everything happening at IHOPKC
Thank you
@ZionConsultTeam
for speaking with truth, vulnerability and humility.
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🚩🚩🚩
Eric trying really hard to backtrack his statement that the IHOPKC crisis is over.
I don’t think it’s working.
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TH’s testimony and text conversation goes to show that IHOPKC’s investigation was BS at best.
🚩Rosie never got a testimony from TH
🚩 Rosie only interviewed TH’s ex husband (a recently exposed predator)
For IHOPKC to share this half -a$$ed report was negligent.
A statement by TH, one of the Jane Does who first shared her testimony with the advocacy group regarding Mike Bickle’s predatory behaviors. TH restates the need for a 3rd party investigation as the recent
#ihopkc
investigation report was “insufficient and woefully misleading”:
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Another reason to disavow IHOPKC “prophetic history”
The well known Paul Cain story about his mom dying on 4/18 at 4:18 which MB claimed to be a witness to seems to have been completely made up. 😵💫
Tombstone says 4/19
Death certificate says 4/19
I say: 🚩🚩🚩
"It blows my mind." A decades-old prophecy promoted by embattled IHOPKC founder Mike Bickle that has been repeatedly recited by charismatic leaders to rally believers was based on information that isn’t true, The Star has learned.
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Read my friend David’s experience on resigning from IHOPKC.
Another 🚩 for me was seeing many of my friends on the same leadership level as I was asking questions, getting the same weird response from leaders above them, and deciding it was time to go.
Here is the beginning of my personal story. I've been on staff and a leader at
#ihopkc
for many years. I felt that it was important for those that I know to hear some of my thoughts.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
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Thankful to be singing with my friends again here in Kzoo
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Emotions regarding IHOPKC and MB 1/2
Mad - MB used the good intentions, pure devotion, and hunger of young adults to build a name for himself to hide and foster abusive behavior.
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@samueljhood_
@ihopkc
@allenshood
Something to note about MBs emails specifically is that he mostly used a personal iCloud account - I’m not sure how much he sent from his IHOPKC account.
I lost my email access when I started speaking out on Twitter 😂
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Final thought: let’s get the ball rolling with that agreed upon third party investigation.
This is the next step.
Words cannot express the anger, shock, heartbreak, and sadness we have experienced as we have learned of allegations and testimonies of sexual abuse and manipulation concerning Mike Bickle, founder of IHOPKC.
We believe that Mike Bickle sexually abused and manipulated Jane Doe
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I also want to say
I do feel slight relief over two things after seeing this:
1. A small step in a right direction
2. Finally a statement in IHOPKC’s own “voice” and not from a crisis manager.
I hope apologies are extended to the AG and Jane Doe
#1
Words cannot express the anger, shock, heartbreak, and sadness we have experienced as we have learned of allegations and testimonies of sexual abuse and manipulation concerning Mike Bickle, founder of IHOPKC.
We believe that Mike Bickle sexually abused and manipulated Jane Doe
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Wowowow. I am blown away by people’s kindness and generosity. Thank you for helping me set up my new place!
Just moved into a new place (in a new state) and doing kind of an online housewarming party. This was an unexpected life move so a gave away or trashed quite a bit of my stuff to get out of KC quickly.
Here’s a link to my wishlist:
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🚩🚩🚩🚩
@seanfeucht
(This just one red flag out of the many I could list 😵💫)
Jesus came to save the oppressed
He lowered himself meet the lowly.
He cares for the victim.
He cares for the traumatized.
He cares for those in pain.
You cheapen the sacrifice of Jesus on Calgary by elevating your trauma, pain and victim-hood over the power of the cross.
THE BLOOD OF JESUS IS ENOUGH.🩸
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Many who listened to these things are now being slapped in the face when hard reality that others have been processing since Oct.
It didn’t have to be this way.
It’s time to shine the light in every corner of IHOPKC.
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@DrMichaelLBrown
asked this question on Facebook and I thought I’d post my answer here.
I have more thoughts than this but here is a short answer + a Twitter exclusive:
I’m all for one “prophetic history”: loving Jesus and following the Gospels
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Who is writing these captions?
“Wind them down” please IHOPKC
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This is maddening.
🚩
IHOPKC and Mike Bickle use “support for Israel” as a means to keep an abusive system going, to ignore victims, etc.
Let me just edit this statement
“God comes against ministries that support and hide abuse”
The smugness of this original post. 😵💫
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Tammy Woods letter to MB. Reading this breaks my heart all over again.
A woman came forward last week with her story, accusing
@IHOPKC
Founder
@MikeBickle
of sexually abusing her, beginning at age 14
Now, that woman, identified by maiden name Tammy Woods, has released an open letter addressed to Mike (and Diane) Bickle. 1/2
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Not sure this was the answer they were wanting but IHOPKC really set this one up for me 😅
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Emotions regarding IHOPKC and MB 3/3
Relief - I almost felt like I was going crazy making a decision to exit IHOPKC and now I have no doubt I did the right thing.
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If your ministry/church/small group/MLM/ or whatever is painting a narrative that you are a special group of martyrs walking through trials because “outside voices” raise concerns of systemic abuse and predatory behavior
You might just be in a CULT
Sorry IHOPKC
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@EricVolz
Would you say that no matter how you stated it, with Tammy and TH coming forward , “the crisis wasn’t over” or “IHOPKC went back into crisis mode”? Because i think no matter how it was stated, the crisis was still around.
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Some late night IHOPKC thoughts in the form of a screenshot from Facebook cause I’m too cheap to pay to have the ability to write longer posts.
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Also, I’m sorry to say that for many years, I ignored or downplayed so many voices of truth that were speaking out about IHOPKC in many ways.
I regret it greatly.
🚩🚩🚩
IHOPKC was not complex because of outside voices and the advocate group.
IHOPKC was complex because our leaders minimized, lied, and covered things up.
I’m thankful for my friends “on the outside” who told me the truth while leaders in IHOPKC didn’t.
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Me trying to find a place to live by Sunday while processing the IHOPKC news and sorting through very limited rental options.
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Sometimes you’re many states away from
Missouri, but your heart stops and you go into flight or fight mode when you see an older silver Toyota Corolla in a parking lot you’ve just pulled into.
IHOPKC PTSD 😵💫
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IHOPKC is and was and will be a high control environment.
“Ask questions”
“Be Bereans and don’t take our word for it”
“Your thoughts and ideas are welcome”
All lies.
i dearly love the value of 24/7 worship+prayer, but tbh this is hard to read. last time some of us (worship leaders and singers) tried appealing and giving concerns, a few friends were written up and threatened firing for “insubordination and divisiveness”. appeals went unheard.
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“I’m a fragile stone, I’m a vow that’s broken, I’m a rock that’s crumbled at Your feet, but You still want me.” -
@mistydedwards
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I feel like I’ve lived a week in the last two days. 😵💫
Thoughts on that IHOP email coming soon 👊🏻
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@EricVolz
@DWAYNEROBERTS
So many other things ignited this fire…
I’m disappointed in another response like this from a ministry I gave my youth to serve and build.
Please get a third party investigation agreed upon as soon as possible. Please
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@7MountainsInc
Also him telling her tell people he was the godliest of men… where have we heard that line before? I can think of 3 different Facebook posts 👀🚩🚩🚩
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🚩🚩🚩
IHOPKC was not complex because of outside voices and the advocate group.
IHOPKC was complex because our leaders minimized, lied, and covered things up.
I’m thankful for my friends “on the outside” who told me the truth while leaders in IHOPKC didn’t.
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Goodbye “Larry”
Another one (fake account) bites the dust in the IHOPKC discussion.
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