Part of why transit is 20-70 times safer than driving is because looking at your phone and running into another vehicle is career ending, even if nobody dies. There is real accountability and a high standard. A private driver can literally kill someone and continue driving.
Sadly this is a Career ender. This operator may have been a great operator, may have saved lives before but the truth is there are no safe operators, just safe operating. You are only as safe as your attention is minute by minute. So sad
The US has abandoned the harm principle: the idea you should be able to do what you want unless it harms others and harm justifies regulation. We have capitulated to a cabal of violent bullies who believe their consumer preferences supersede the health and safety of everyone.
If the primary use of oil was legos and useful devices, we’d be in an infinitely better place. Setting it on fire to power 3-tons of steel to go five blocks for milk and eggs and designing our cities so that this is the only practical choice is why we have a climate crisis.
🧵Want to understand why weaning ourselves off fossil fuels like oil is such a tricky challenge?
Best place to start is with this ubiquitous toy👇
This is a thread about what I call the LEGO conundrum.
It begins when you ponder what a LEGO brick is actually made of...
If every city council member either walked, biked or took transit at least twice a week to an ordinary task (school, work, city council meetings) we would have a completely different transportation system.
6 years ago today we had the mayor bike to school with my 6 year old, within the first :30 seconds they were almost hit by a driver on live TV. Every leader should be required to ride a bike (if able) with a 6 year old before they provide any direction on bike infrastructure.
@LAmag
This is a picture of the two little boys she killed without mercy as their parents watched. Can you imagine the pain they have endured? There is virtually no dispute that she was drunk and racing. The little boys, and their parents, are the victims. This woman belongs in jail.
My husband and I are middle aged which means our parents generation is starting to age out of driving. Once someone cannot drive, they are basically disappeared from society and become *completely* dependent on others even if they could still walk or run errands. It’s a prison.
I absolutely despise this kind of take.
People under 16 deserve freedom.
People who can’t afford a car deserve freedom.
People who are unable to drive deserve freedom.
People who just don’t like to drive deserve freedom.
People deserve safe options on how they get around.
My dream is that this kid can afford a cute little apartment where she can walk to work to a job she really likes. After work she can meet friends who live nearby at any number of cheap local eateries. We owe it to the next generations to restore cities to their former glory.
One of the most enduring myths is that “American cities were built for cars.” No.
Our cities were *destroyed* for the car. We had dense, walkable cities as beautiful as Europe. DOTs razed entire neighborhoods to make way for freeways and demolished downtowns for parking lots.
56% of drivers involved in serious injury and fatal crashes tested positive for at least one drug. Even in states where laws have changed, it is still illegal to drive under the influence of the drug. Make smarter choices.
Cars are money pits. They devour the most valuable resources in cities: space and time. When people walk places, they are easier to entice into shops, more likely to shop locally and have more time and money to spend. It’s also a lot prettier.
One of the most successful pedestrian streets in the world, the Strøget in Copenhagen was filled with cars until a 2 year pilot project in 1962. The opposition argued “no cars means no business” but the street has been a massive retail success, the city’s busiest shopping street.
Cities, even NYC, where most people DO NOT DRIVE, clear roads for 3-ton cars at huge public expense, but maintaining sidewalks, which are used by every resident depends on good will and strong backs. This is one of the most gobsmacking disparities in our transportation system.
NEW:
@NYCSanitation
has issued *1,697* summonses for property owners failing to remove snow and/or ice since 8am. Asked about this today, the commissioner told me: “there is no grace period. It’s a question of safety.”
#NBC4NY
Imagine seeing this and thinking the problem was riding a bicycle in a city rather than a transportation system so deadly you need 3-tons of PPE to safely navigate in it.
Who TF does this with an infant? This is on a very busy main thoroughfare in an area where there are so many accidents that they keep adding light-up crosswalks. I looked into the stroller to see if there were groceries but nope, it was a human baby.
As you get ready to celebrate Thanksgiving, make sure you have a sober driver lined up to take you home. Alternatively, plan to take a taxi or use a ride-sharing service to reach your destination safely.
Motorists will drive through stuff like this every day and honest to God complain about a bike or bus lane taking up too much space and too many resources. Because anything less than everything is an injustice.
*BREAKING*
NHL superstar Johnny Gaudreau and his brother have been killed in a tragic biking accident.
They were scheduled to be groomsmen in their sister's wedding later today.
Our thoughts and prayers are with their family.
DETAILS:
Cars ruin cities. They devour land and resources, slow and degrade transit, injure and kill people on foot and bikes and generate huge amounts of noise and air pollution. The best way to improve cities is to reduce cars.
What *really* killed streetcars? They stopped running efficiently because they were swamped by private automobiles. This stunning colorized footage from 1930s Los Angeles shows it well... 🚋🧵
The pedestrian was wearing high-viz, on the sidewalk, tried to evade and *still* the PD crashed into him. Illustrating in spectacular fashion what absolute bullshit the "shared-responsibilty-make-eye-contact-just-wear-high-viz" pedestrian safety framing is. Cars are hazards.
Should we tax *all* vehicles proportional to road wear and other externalities like noise and air pollution, injuries and deaths?
Go ahead. Make my day.
You can avoid these crazy charges by not bringing a truck into the most dense, transit rich city in the world. A truck takes about as much space to store as a studio apartment and brings noise and air pollution, road damage and risk of injury or death. Take the train.
This is a car crash and 100% the fault of the driver.
A motorist was on the train tracks when they shouldn't have been and the train cannot swerve BECAUSE IT'S ON TRACKS.
This post about a Delorean raises an important point. The move to huge cars blunts pretty much all the senses (sound, sight lines, road vibrations) and with them, the experience of driving. The perception of speed is significantly blunted, so people are incentivized to go faster.
The best thing about the car was how low to the ground it was. You'd be doing 35mph and feel as if it was 135mph in a modern car. Just a ton of fun to drive.
This sweet little train carries about as many people as the average ugly-ass US highway, except nobody will get hurt or die and instead of breathing tire particles and listening to traffic you can roll through the woods.
Am I the only person who finds this **cking terrifying? One of the things that makes semis safe is that they are slow and predictable in certain contexts. If they can drive like maniacs, that make them much more dangerous. Freight rail is a public safety issue.
It’s not arenas that destroy neighborhoods. It’s the giant parking crater and the flood of drunk drivers that frequently accompany events. A compact, transit accessible arena with no parking can be lovely. Also, if the taxpayers pay for it they should own it.
Plans to build an arena in the heart of our city pose an existential threat to Chinatown. Philly doesn’t want an arena here, and neither do I. Proud to join with so many people fighting for their homes, for their neighbors, for this beloved community, and for our city.✊🏾
The idea “transit is for poors” among both the public and, especially, those who run transit is a root cause of disinvestment and the contempt DOTs often show for transit and its riders. It will never get better until everyone uses it. All riders benefit from more transit users.
My tweet about going car-free is viral enough that it has officially pissed off two polar opposite crowds.
The car obsessed right-wingers and now the “you’re taking up space and using public services meant for poor people” leftists.
A woman with a history of reckless driving “glanced down for a moment” (was checking her phone) and killed a woman. She should be massively fined, her car seized and melted into bollards and, most importantly, get a lifetime driving ban. Drivers should not get one free murder.
A woman who ran a stop sign in Carlsbad and fatally struck a mother who was riding an e-bike with her toddler daughter was sentenced to 90 days in county jail and 90 days of home detention.
This story is everything wrong with US transportation:
- Almost all medical events while driving are from a known condition and this was almost certainly preventable.
- The wife and child would have been 20 -70 times safer on transit.
- Instead, we get a deadly arms race.
Ignore this at your own risk.
Do not put your family in a small car.
Yesterday, my wife was driving my son to school and an oncoming delivery truck crossed the center lane and hit her head on — the driver had a seizure was going 40 mph.
I was on my way to work in a separate
The time for civil disobedience has come.
Though ~75% of Manhattan residents don’t drive, they must endure unrelenting costs, arrogance of space and noise from suburban motorists. They are compelled to breath particles from their tires, brakes and tailpipes and bury their kids.
This truck at the suburban office park where I work has a bumper as tall as my head and a bull bar designed to cut a pedestrian in half before sending them under the wheels. This is street legal and we have DOTs talking about distracted walking.
It is effectively legal to kill an entire family using a car as long as you do it sober, don’t flee the scene and cooperate with the investigation. DOTs have made it clear they aren’t going to protect us.
Civil disobedience is a rational, effective, measured response.
Community outrage for 4-y/o child killed at SF intersection; rebel group installs barriers
A group called Safe Street Rebel has installed a new barrier at 4th & King streets, saying they did not want to wait the 3 weeks the city said it would take to get the job done.
@JanaKTVU
There is something about automobiles that brings out the inner asshole in otherwise decent people. We have a century of data showing that, given access to power, anonymity and privilege, motorists will use it to bully, invade, injure and kill themselves and others.
In the 1920s, the automobile industry undertook a campaign to shift the onus of responsibility for road deaths from the people doing the killing (motorists, and later DOTs) to the people doing the dying (children, people on foot/bikes). This messaging continues in that tradition.
#ShareTheRoad
Make eye contact with all road users to ensure that you are all aware of each other.
Eye contact is one of the non-viral communications that we can do on the road to stay safe.
#DalTRAC
#Driving
#Walking
#Cycling
Suburbanites seem convinced cities exist for their benefit and amusement and that the island of Manhattan is LUCKY to be graced with the noise, pollution and risk of blunt force trauma from multitudes of suburban SUVs. Manhattanites may even be able to score better seats!🚶🚊🚲
Sounds like many from the outer boroughs, counties, and even states agree: when congestion pricing hits, there will be no reason to go into Manhattan.
The congestion tax can't be good for businesses in the CBD. But when have NY elected officials ever paid attention, or cared?
If you could ask anything from a downtown redevelopment project, what would it be? For a lot of people, it’s a place to sit. This may be surprising to some, but public seating plays an important role in creating prosperous communities. Here are a few of the reasons why. 🧵
Don’t confuse the color green with actual climate action. We do not preserve nature by sprawling into it, paving over it, driving to it and supplanting it with lawns. Walkable cities well served by transit use the fewest resources per capita and are more productive economically.
AR-15 is absolutely right. I am so sick of the free loading. I propose the “Fair Share Transportation Act.” ALL modes should be priced at their full, true costs including road wear, required land, air and noise pollution, injuries and deaths.
@Boenau
Cyclists should be forced to pay the true cost of theie infrastructure. Tolls, licensing, registration, whatever. Infrastructure isn't free and cycling infrastructure has no legitimate business use.
The US is remarkable in the degree to which we have wealth but not prosperity. Our cities should be magnificent but instead are a series of highways and parking craters. Our wealth and health is devoured by middle men and life expectancy is largely a story of drugs, guns & cars.
An underappreciated reason the US doesn't feel as rich as it should is the amount of time and money that goes into producing thousands of pages of documents nobody cares about
The below document is an evaluation of if fewer cars in a city is good for the environment
I am so sick of a system that allows a handful of entitled cranks with a lot of time on their hands to undermine and block transportation and housing for everyone else. These loudmouths are vastly outnumbered by people who live in apartments and ride the bus. Ignore them.
People are pointing out that public infrastructure shouldn’t be expected to make a profit. But the point of this post is that we frequently expect transit and even walk/bike projects to justify themselves by farebox recovery or economic activity and never expect this of highways.
Did you know: The US Interstate Highway System has never been profitable in all the time it's been operating. It actually loses an enormous amount of money every year and can only exist because of massive government subsidy
Water problems in the west are almost entirely a land use and water management problem. Ie, one couple, the Resnicks, managed to get control over a *public* water bank w/ back room deals and use as much water as the entire city of Los Angeles growing thirsty crops in the desert.
A reminder that our entire transportation system was optimized so that [white] men could drive from soulless, segregated suburbs through demolished neighborhoods to downtown offices surrounded by a sea of parking. The car became the leading cause of child death for decades.
A parking spot, including egress, takes as much space as a studio apartment. Parking minimums and subsidies put people in direct competition with cars for housing, mobility and safety. Parking should be priced at its real costs.
A favorite trope of drivers is "People who ride bikes should pay their fair share." When you explain what that actually looks like, enthusiasm generally evaporates. By all means, let's price property damage, space, road wear $=kg^4, pollution (air, noise), injuries and deaths.
Drivers are so accustomed to shifting the costs and consequences of their transportation to others, they view having to bear any of these costs as a great injustice. People have been paying for transit at point of use for over a century.
@jaketapper
The fact this picture is posted *from a car* is just chef's kiss. Lt Alknois's negligence killed two people. Civilized countries treat driving and killing someone with a car as a serious matter. He should never drive again. Ever.
We need a pedestrian bill of rights. Every choice of the automobile industry wrt size, weight & acceleration transfers risk to people on foot. There is no alternative to or way to opt out of our deadly roads. We are getting slaughtered and USDOT is subsidizing it.
@SecretaryPete
Yeesh. Electric SUVs and trucks are so heavy that crash tests don't work for them.
In a collision, these things can pulverize another vehicle -- let alone a cyclist or pedestrian.
I will never understand how being carried around in a luxury, motorized, climate controlled easy chair like a medieval princess got coded as “manly” and braving the elements, danger and using physical strength to power one’s journey got coded “metro” or whatever word they use.
One of the greatest triumphs of the motor industry is to make men in the U.K feel inadequate if they don’t own a monster truck.
In the Netherlands, people like Guy - who I met in Assen today - don’t seemed bothered by that at all.
Which we all know is the real way to be cool.
California has tried this experiment (sort of) in Prop 13. You wind up with defunded and disparate schools, regressive sales and income taxes, perverse incentives and price controls due to skyrocketing housing costs. This is a terrible policy suggestion and should be repudiated.
Controversial take: Americans should be allowed to fully own their own property.
Once Paid off, it cannot be taken from you.
It should be yours fully, and you no longer owe/pay property taxes.
You are already taxed many other ways (income, etc)
No push for this?
The means to make roads safer are proven, publicly available, low-tech, low-cost and can be installed in a weekend with free repurposed materials and volunteer labor. Yet DOTs insist that safety improvements will take years of outreach and are difficult, complex and expensive.
The broke city's guide to traffic calming: old concrete pipe filled with dirt are one the cheapest yet most effective ways to turn any resident intersection into a mini roundabout!
Near impossible to speed through the intersection, and doesn't negatively impact pedestrians!
I cannot, for the life of me, get over how much moving to online participation has changed the demographics and representation of who shows up to Council. It's like we're hearing from the other 90% of the city now.
Sarah’s beautiful child was killed in car crash. The man w/ a history of reckless driving who hit them is still driving. The single most important justice reform we could have is that if you seriously hurt or kill someone with a car you lose the car and never drive again. Ever.
Sure cars are loud, polluting, expensive and dangerous and the vast amount of space they require makes cities hostile, ugly and boring, but have you considered how inefficient they are at their only job?
400 people on buses & 100 people in cars in 5 minute timelapse👇🏾The red
#RapidTO
#TTC
bus lane on Kennedy is doing exactly what it's meant to do. This is the type of project we need to do more of to keep
#Scarborough
moving!
Some benefits... [1/4]
Running red lights is a good way to crash, permanently injure or kill another person and is even worse than stealing shit which doesn’t usually result in fatalities. Pay your ticket.
I just got a $100 red light violation ticket in the mail. At this point I’ll vote for any motherfucker who calls bullshit on this practice. People steal shit daily in this country and get away with it but you roll through a red light with nobody around and down comes the hammer.
Imagine if a 71 one year old shot both a four year old *and her father* in the middle of a city, in broad daylight, killing the child and sending the father to the ICU. And the sentence was community service and a safe shooting class. We tolerate an insane level of road violence.
Traffic engineering is the only branch of civil (or any) engineering where deadly design is the standard. Any other type of engineer would lose their license if their choices were clearly, directly contributory to the death or injury of a person. This is malpractice.
I’m a proud SF cyclist. Always will be.
But this new diagonal bike lane on 23rd & Valencia is a failure and dangerous.
I was recording because I have a genuine question for
@sfmta
: what do you expect to happen when the light turns green?
“Environmentalists” will ban scooters and straws, swear off AC and and completely ignore automobile dependence, the 900lb gorilla of GHG emissions, air and noise pollution, microplastics and heat island effects. Everything else is fussing at the edges.
We speed limit 50lb e-bikes and stand scooters to 20 MPH “for safety” but cars, which are 100 times heavier and 5 times faster, have no such limits. Smart speed limiting and geofencing for cars would save thousands of lives/year. We need
@NHTSAgov
to take real action.
Last week the National Transportation Safety Board recommended that speed-limiting technology be required on all new cars.
It’s an excellent idea.
@USDOT
should do it.
My latest in
@FastCompany
. 🧵 below
When you're a motorist accustomed to privilege, anything less than everything is an injustice. Bike lanes are there so that people who live in the area can get around safely without being hit by cars. Safe passage in a city is a human right.
Transit will not flourish until normal, middle class people use it regularly. When transit is used as a de-facto homeless shelter there are a lot of people who will absolutely not use it. They do not care how safe it is statistically. Their subjective experience matters more.
Economists at Harvard estimate that the annual costs of maintaining automobile infrastructure at $14K/year for *every household* even those without a car. A car costs another $12K. The situation is almost certainly worse in TX. Automobile dependence is an economic albatross.
In addition to being loud, polluting, the primary source of microplastics and GHG emissions, expensive, land devouring, dangerous eyesores, cars are just so damn inefficient at their only job. Trains for the win.
@RichmondRCMP
There is a vast moral and practical distinction between killing someone and *being killed.* Walking is fundamental to human mobility, health and development. Driving poses substantial dangers to anyone outside the car. These activities are not equivalent or even similar.
While cops were ticketing a low income delivery worker on a bicycle, SEVEN cars ran a red light with a bunch of people waiting at the crosswalk. NYPD has zero interest in traffic enforcement or safety. Their only real interest seems to be harassing immigrants and poor people.
Cops working under the law and order team of
@NYPDDaughtry
@NYPDChiefOfDept
@NYPDChiefPatrol
are at the foot of the Williamsburg Bridge right now stopping and writing tickets to people on bikes, scooters and mopeds.
Road wear is a function of axle weight to the fourth power. We should tax vehicles by weight and miles driven. It’s time for all road users to pay their fair share.
“California is considering replacing the gas tax, which pays for the lion’s share of road repairs and other transportation projects, with a more sustainable source of funding”
IMO, there are absolutely psychological and physiological reasons people are more impatient and aggressive behind the wheel of a car. Cars grant power & anonymity in a system optimized for their convenience and set motorists in a fight or flight scenario with no physical outlet.
70 years ago, Disney understood what driving (& bad suburban design creating car dependancy) can do to us. Remember “Motor Mania” from 1950? HT
@LiorSteinberg
People who go to the store by foot or bike make small, frequent trips (eg, store their food at the STORE) and, by necessity, shop very locally. This makes them loyal customers. They also have thousands more/year to spend because they save car payments, gas, parking and insurance.
@NaqiyNY
Carrying bags of groceries and taking public transportation back home is a perfect way to bring your family broken bags cracked eggs melted icecream and squished bananas
Road wear is a function of axle weight to the fourth power and local roads are largely paid out of the general fund. But if drivers want to play that game then yes, let’s really price all modes, including externalities, at their real costs. Bikers should welcome such a model.
I wish there was a way to help Americans understand that cars *are the pod*. They devour our cities, resources, strength, health, money, time and so many young lives. They blunt the senses. They anonymize. They appeal to our worst instincts and make the worst people powerful.
US roads are so badly designed that walking, an activity fundamental to human health and development which imposes neither risks or costs, requires the situational awareness of a hunted gazelle. It should be safe to walk drunk, tired, old, sick or with a disability or impairment.
Do you sometimes feel held hostage by your phone? I walk more than a mile to work daily and my phone stays in my pocket the entire time. Taking a break and enjoying my surroundings not only helps me stay safe while walking, it's much more pleasant!
#NoDistractions
@GHSAHQ
@GM
Cars are economic parasites. They require huge amounts of land, expensive, polluting infrastructure and are the source of many other expenses (police, fire). For cities, building for people is like printing money.
This tiny little cluster of buildings on just 0.88 acres of land in Centretown brings in more property tax revenue than this 9.24 acre Walmart Supercentre in Barrhaven.
Same scale:
We could have a transportation system as safe as our drinking water. We could stare out the window or watch YouTube on our phones with no fear of harm while a train or bus took us safely home. We could be able to walk along quiet tree lined streets. Instead, we have this.
At least 150 vehicles collided on 1-55 outside of New Orleans Monday morning amid a "superfog." At least 7 people were killed, and more than 2 dozen were injured.
Smoke from nearby marsh fires contributed to the dangerously low visibility.
Cars are a luxury good. They are INCREDIBLY expensive to buy, maintain and repair. They are a financial trap for low income people. Centering our civilization on them dilutes the tax base, destroys and degrades human settlements and immiserates, sickens and kills so many people.
I want to know what non-car people think of this.
A woman has two cars. A Toyota Camry and a Porsche 911 GT3 (very nice track car.)
Her boyfriend drives the GT3 without her permission, taking it racing through a field. She drives it, feels the suspension is screwed up, takes
The "public engagement" process in the US is designed to amplify the voice of every crank in the neighborhood with enough free time to devote two hours in the middle of a work day to comment for 2 minutes vetoing a play structure in a park. This is why we can't have nice things.
Let's Get Neighborhood Approval to Save the Planet
LA Nimbys are fighting against playground equipment. And of course
@kdeleon
is taking them seriously, Nimbys are his demo. Nice little piece from Greg Ruben.
The neat thing about transit is that it's so safe that you don't need a special seat to strap your child in as if they're being shot into space. You can let them look out the window, eat snacks and run around. And they're SAFER than in a car. Cars are very, very bad for kids.
@ncrawfordmd
@menorman
Criminalizing abortion is also going to make a lot of women ineligible to vote. I’m beginning to wonder if that isn’t the larger goal here - or at least viewed as an ancillary benefit to the GOP.
A driver is protected by restraints, airbags and 2-3 tons of steel. A person on foot/bike has nothing. No. Thing. So if a driver is going fast enough through a residential neighborhood to hurt or kill themselves, they should be the one sacrificed. Not the child walking to school.
Not a mini-roundabout. And this is creating a deadly fixed object (DFO) for errant vehicles. There are better and safer ways to calm traffic for all users, such as an actual mini-roundabout.
@Trish_NI
America has rejected the vision of a walkable, person centered city for 8 decades and prioritized driving and parking. Paris, what’s keeping you from looking like this?
About 10 years ago I was at a neurology lecture. The speaker was talking about successful aging and daily walking as practically a panacea for cognitive decline. He noted humans evolved to walk about 10 km (6.2 mi) a day. Walking is foundational to human health and development.
If you’re young the single worst decision you can make is to be tricked into buying an expensive, rapidly depreciating, toxic asset. Being hardworking and responsible is a lot more attractive than an overpriced, truck.
Gentlemen,
Just an observation I’ve seen over nearly 5 decades of life:
If young and single, get a truck. Even if in NYC. You may think she likes that Beamer, but her heart will palpitate a lot more if she has to step up into a beast of a vehicle on the first date.
A little old lady who plowed into an entire family in broad daylight, killed a little girl, sent her father to the ICU and devastated the family forever got community service and a driving class. She did not lose money, freedom or even her car or DRIVER’S LICENSE. She’ll be back.
Kill six - don't go to jail.
Drive after you've been banned as a result - still don't go to jail.
There's no argument. Drivers - even demonstrably dangerous ones who kill - are the most indulged & cosseted species on the planet.
Any comment,
@Mark_J_Harper
,
@MPIainDS
...?
I recently talked to a friend who does software for a car company. They could deploy smart speed limiting nationwide in a matter of months. They have the maps. We already cap e-bikes at 20MPH and add geofencing to 50-lb stand scooters “for safety.” We need speed limiting on cars.
The first rule of US transportation policy is that if a driver hits something causing property damage, injury or death, unless the driver was blackout drunk, it is the fault of the thing being hit.
Automobile dependence is a menace to public safety. There’s your concern.
The transportation “activist” arc:
- “I’d like to walk the kids to school” or “I think I’ll bike the 2 miles to work.”
- Realize roads are dangerous.
- Ask DOT for modest changes.
- Get told this is not possible.
- Dig into why. Try hard.
- Emerge 2 years later as the Joker.
Police are the most car-brained, biased, expensive and least effective means of improving road safety. Narrow lanes, Jersey barriers, bump-outs, bollards, smaller cars, smart speed limiters and speed cameras are cheap, effective, omni-present, impartial and 24/7.
LA’s police chief
@LAPDChiefMoore
blames cyclists riding on streets that don’t have bike lanes and pedestrians that don’t wear reflective clothing for a year of record road deaths in LA.
This picture demonstrates what a massive, gobsmacking waste of space parking is. Each car requires about as much space as a studio apt (including egress). With a couple trains, you could fit an entire neighborhood in the space used to store cars every once in a while.