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@yElff_
@GamblingDrama
@JoeyKnish22
No one is “celebrating a sportsbook limiting” you. People are celebrating because you and all the other OJ disciples were acting as though you discovered something that’s been around since before you swam around in your dad’s ballsack and tried to quickly monetize a practice that
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I don’t know why, but
@betstamp
becoming what it is today feels like a major tipping point in sports gambling content. Right or wrong, I think a lot of us considered their platform/product one of the last “pure” (and I mean that very loosely) innovations in the sports betting
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Not to continue the slobbering, but the Circles Off with
@Matthew_Trench
really was as good of a pod as you’ll ever hear. Thought provoking, insightful, entertaining. But every time I listen to an interview like that, my main takeaway is the realization of who we’re competing
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@JoeyKnish22
I’ve been operating under the idea that this money glitch was infinite. Who do I sue?
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So
@yElff_
forgets to crop out this fella
@shiestypicks23
name from the DM’s as he’s explaining he can steal plays from private bet tracking apps. Shiesty guy then tweets a sceenshot at me to ensure I know he’s not hacking anyone, he’s just stealing private picks to pass as his
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@yElff_
@GamblingDrama
@JoeyKnish22
Splitting hairs. Find a way to win without picking off bad lines with software anyone can purchase. Oh, and giving advice to people who don’t know any better on how to multi-account probably isn’t ideal.
The real question: are you saying this money glitch was not, in fact,
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Please don’t let this get me cancelled….
I cannot wait for the George content to run its course.
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Yesterday was fun. But I want to attempt to summarize how I would assume people in sports betting feel about
@RASPicks
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The recent criticism of RAS is happening because the champ got knocked down. There’s blood in the water, and sharks know it. They are (were?) the pinnacle of
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Can’t believe FD is finessing his boy on taxes. What can’t they get away with?!!
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@RufusPeabody
You spent months of your life in a crusade against JAMBOS and Schwimmer, taking shot after shot at their credibility and motivations. You’ll then cite how you self-reflected, thought about it some more, and realized you were in the wrong. Even to the point where you created tout
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I’m starting to think Rob, Johnny, and Zack have never drank beer.
.
@Matthew_Trench
rightfully pointed out the joys of a good airport beer in last week's episode and it inspired us to rank the best types of beer.
Who has the best list and what is your favourite type of beer to consume?
🍺
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Hey
@yElff_
let’s keep these around. My favorite part is when your first reaction was to be taught to hack others.
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When a sportsbook attempts to limit sharp bettors, they cast a wide net. Do they catch a few extra square fish in the net? Sure. But they’re OK with that because overall, they’re likely a more profitable business afterwards.
Saying “never buy picks” is the same idea. Are you
They act superior and think they have moral high ground, but they aren't and they don't. Hating on touts is easy, and popular, but actually understanding and educating on the nuances and wide spectrum of the industry isn't.
@CaptainJack
at least took the time to try once. Most
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An incredibly detailed view into why Prophet couldn’t succeed.
Wondering why we closed a successful sports betting start up?
Here’s why: 🧵
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This guy consistently puts out unbelievable info. How do we ensure the sportsbooks don’t have access to this data?
Rays F5 -0.5 (-115) 1.15u
Teams average 4.25 runs in the F5 against Kenta Maeda. Maeda has a 6.79 ERA and .295 BAA in the F5. Ryan Pepiot has limited hitters to a .179 BA in the F5. Plus, he owns a .201 xBA and 30.7% K rate. Tigers hold a 91 wRC+ against RHP.
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Hello fellow idiot Americans. This is one of the key players behind
@primesportsbook
, a new book being launched in the US. They offer nothing close to the number of markets most operators will offer, they will never limit you, and will point blank insult your intelligence.
@BrettFavre444
@UnabatedSports
🤣🤣... 1. I find it very amusing that
@UnabatedSports
is being lauded for bringing down the value in sportsbetting all alone.. I guess that's what their marketing should be... You need to subscribe, as people are saying we single handedly are killing the AP of sportsbetting..
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@JoeyKnish22
Does it ever seem like Superbook gets grandfathered in with other sharp books because they used to run the biggest pickem contest and had a couple of sharp customers? They were one of quickest to limit in these other states.
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Sports betting twitter feels like it’s approaching a boiling point. I love it. I hope the
@CirclesOffHQ
pod later today with Knish is the equivalent of the Franz Ferdinand assassination.
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I cannot wait for
@CircaSports
and
@primesportsbook
to get to Ohio. Having great limits on the soft offerings I beat at rec books is gonna be the best.
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@iamrahstradamus
@GamblingDrama
Well you also believe a player’s astrological sign impacts their performance and helps you find edges. I think it’s fair to assume you might not be winning on your own.
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How did
@lasvegascris
get left off this list?
“I tout so I can create accountability for myself” is one of the all time tout declarations.
'WTF WERE YOU THINKING' EPISODES😲
@robpizzola
and
@JoeyKnish22
discussed the Circles Off guest episodes that were underwhelming, didn't have many learning points, were untimely, or the interviews could have been conducted much better...
Agree or disagree with this list?
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I’ll always be on the side of bettors, but it’s funny to think about…
Sports bettor that makes the most money = best sports bettor.
Sports book that makes the most money = piece of shit dressmaker.
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@RASPicks
Well done never answering a very basic question. I’ll help you out.
You would walk into the room and speak to how if those people buy your package, they will win money on your picks. Because that’s the only thing they want to hear.
When you try to speak to your service as if
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I would love for a tout that sells pick packages, especially in major, liquid markets, to listen to that interview and then explain why they think they are just as capable as bettors with Trench’s betting expertise. Even funnier would be for a tout’s customers to listen to that
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I plan on spending the foreseeable future doing and saying whatever I please. Then, in a couple of years, I will self-reflect and determine if what I was doing is/was wrong. May need a couple of friends to vouch for my character.
It’s all so simple.
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I’m not saying a person has to be on Trench’s level to win, we all know there’s low-hanging fruit all over. But for me, that interview highlights the tiers of sports betting none of us can compete against. Like he mentioned, it’s funny to listen to people in sports betting speak
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The Tout Playbook is standard. There are no exceptions to that.
A tout is a tout is a tout.
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Really enjoyed this week’s
@CirclesOffHQ
episode, found it entertaining.
However, we Americans took a huge hit with
@JoeyKnish22
explanation of U.S. standardized testing. Yes, the SAT’s and ACT’s still exist. Yes, high school students still send their scores to prospective
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I know we’re close to the end of the college football season when I start seeing
@TheTailgateTent
retweet anyone who has a positive opinion on a player he’s holding a Heisman ticket on.
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Would you rather pay the fee to subscribe to RAS picks, or pay a fee for using a lab in order to come up with plays for the day?
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Let’s assume someone ignores the advice of “don’t pay for picks” and “don’t bet on sports.” Which is the better result?
Bet on sports —> lose money
Pay a tout —> bet on sports —> lose money.
I know which one is better for most sports bettors. I also know which one is better
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@FulnerMike
@betstamp
If I had to guess, this is the correct take. But for some reason, a lot of us held out hope they would stick with it, even if it meant the return wasn’t all that great. If what you’re doing doesn’t pay the bills, you change what you’re doing.
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@bronerp4p
Meth. We start a tout service. If we don’t hit 55%, our insurance policy is a promise to send each subscriber some meth. They get hooked, forget about our losing plays, AND we’ve diversified our product line to appeal to more degenerates and addicts.
Touting is so easy.
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@RASPicks
Happy you brought that up. If you think me complimenting your past winning ways precludes me from identifying all of your recent, scum tout tactics, I don’t know what to tell you.
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@spanky
@chinamaniac
@BeBetterBettors
I do find it funny/ironic that the guy who’s spent a good portion of his time changing the perception of how he bets takes a decent amount of shots at “just prop” guys. Prop guys need the same rebrand “steam chasers” have gone through!
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Ballys 100% got left off the cool kids text chain when they all decided to bail on the MGC meeting.
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Refined touts as knowledgeable and experienced as them wouldn’t point to small sample sizes and arbitrary end points to fit narratives, right?
We hit 63.5% in NFL (62.5% regular/post season)
We hit 58.7% in CFB
We hit 56.1% on our first 164 releases of the CBB season.
Then we hit a disaster CBB run, worst in our 28 year history.
Great call Steve! I am sure you saw that coming and took full advantage.
GMAFB.
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@GamblingDrama
@robpizzola
@losing_bettor
@betstamp
@Hoops_Bet
@TheHammerHQ
@CirclesOffHQ
Lost cause. Your account, which once had promise, absolutely STINKS.
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Another perfect example of the newest trend in sports betting: posting your picks for “transparency” or “holding yourself accountable.”
Why is it that the transparency and accountability comes with a fee?
@HeHateMe2_0
@SethBurn
@denver_calling
@norealcappers
@ShipTheJustice
@dlGgSyeTaGaiN
@MikeVivian
Haha if your picks being available for others to see somewhere makes you a tout, fine.
But I see a tout as someone who makes a living, or at least a large portion of their bankroll, off selling bets.
I simply began posting my bets for transparency reasons.
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@walls_edward
What do I do if I want to clown on people giving out plays here, but also want to bet my own stuff to make money off it, instead of sending it out to the public?
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@losing_bettor
@TheFav_orite
Listen, I’m concerned about the bet slips too, but we gotta worry about one thing at a time. If sportsbooks get this data to shape lines, it’s game over for baseball bettors.
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Because they were viewed on a different level, a more refined level if you will, you would think they would handle this situation way differently than your dime a dozen tout. Surely, they wouldn’t resort to scum-level tout practices, would they?
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@joeyisaks
Feels like you’re in the guardian business of what people are allowed to care about. Will run all future cares by you first
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@GamblingDrama
@Gugabed
Uh, no. The most well-regarded originators wouldn’t be on a freeroll, so poor example.
Here’s the alternative version of this story: originator runs poorly, loses a ton of money for movers, is probably embarrassed and stops talking to movers. As originator was on a free roll, no
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@SharpClarkeNFL
@logan_matthews9
Can you at least pause and see what your 20 week scheme looks like?
- your public posting is down almost double digit units
- when people point that out, you mention none of it counts
- you then point them to your ‘actual’ picks that are profitable (per you, I don’t actually
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I’m so bored with the lack of sports I’m watching the monthly Ohio Casino Control Commission meeting. One of the regulators provided a look back at 2024 fiscal year. The state collected $410,000 due to expired sports betting tickets never claimed by bettors.
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@GamblingDrama
you half-ass your job worse than podcasts that invite Rufus, Bales, or CJ on when they’re scrambling for a guest.
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Sports books already bend us over with limits and try to void any bet that’s even close to off market as an “error.”
If we are going to categorize the Mikal Bridges situation from last night as a sports book “error,” god help us all.
@NFLPinnacleBeat
I think people who try to extract massive amounts of money out of sportsbook errors are bad for the betting ecosystem but I’m not going to whine about it or self-righteously attack them because we can all do what we want
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@AmberGambling
@PositiveEVplay
@FulnerMike
@betstamp
Hey I’m gonna respond just this one time - your thoughts are extremely hard to follow. Is there something you’re trying to say here? You ok?
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@AdamBjorn2
@fanaticsbook_pb
@Fanatics
Yes but
@cfargis
will personally speak with you over the phone and let you know there’s nothing they can about your limits once they’ve been applied. The Fanatics difference!
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@CliveBixby41
He’s at the top. But there’s so many people in this space I listen to and make me feel like I’m rubbing two sticks together trying to create fire. Rufus, Shipper, Antonio, Fezzik, AD, Spanky, etc. Makes you feel quite useless.
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@RASPicks
This is example 1A of why people struggle to accept touts. Don’t deflect with “it’s a bit off topic,” just answer the question.
How would you sell someone on RAS’ package if you had a very limited timeframe?
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@PlaymakerDavid
@KirkEvans0
This is my favorite play in the ‘backed into a corner’ playbook. Have been made to look stupid with valid points, so resort to either “rent free” line or “you’re so obsessed!!!” rebuttal. You did both, which is impressive. Well done.
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@KirkEvans0
What evidence do we have that shows sportsbooks are more willing to accept sharp customers if they have lots of losing customers?
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@RASPicks
@JohnMartin929
@spanky
@MikeR_RAS
Almost as bad as having a full blown panic attack at the thought of going on VSIN or speaking on a panel discussing…”checks notes”…sports betting. What you do for a living.
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@HeHateMe2_0
It also feels like the “sucker” who’s put themselves in a position to purchase a multi-billion dollar sports team would have people responsible for knowing how these contracts were structured?
Nah, seems unrealistic.
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@Costanzabets2
@chattim3
@JeffreyBenson12
@capjack2000
Can you imagine how many times Benson and Circa have gone out of their way to help Unabated in their infancy stages? For CJ to hit send on that tweet is bananas.
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@CirclesOffHQ
@Pinnacle
@robpizzola
@betstamp
@ShipTheJustice
This episode is so good, and his accent is so convincing, I’m almost in support of soft books limiting customers.
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Luckily, I’m in the market for a house and this +EV community sounds amazing. They hit 60% too! I need in.
@JBTheSharp
I will agree theres a ton of awesome people in the +EV community, so you aren’t wrong there!
It’s always everyone’s individual preference! Some people LOVE +EV and only play that, nothing wrong with thay approach, esp if you can hit 60%+
We’ve just seen so many +EV players end
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Everyone that is doing this as a side hustle (99% of you) refuses to talk about how taxes should be done or provides any advice. That’s because no one claims any of the income and hopes for the best.
End thread.
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@KirkEvans0
You can shit on our awful American basketball players all you want but I’m not about to sit here and let you call them “centres” or a “defence.” That’s where we draw the line sir
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@sprotzbettor
Uh, Rovell solved 2 and 3. I think he purchased pieces of JFK’s head to prove it.
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@MikeVivian
Maybe they held onto the ticket because they were only betting for entertainment and want a keepsake to remember
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@GerryAttric2
Do you have a different opinion? Awesome. Write your own blog. Blogging is back.
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@sprotzbettor
@joebrennanjr
@primesportsbook
@T20WorldCup
@AdamBjorn2
Not sure you could handle these mean streets. Fuck around and eat a plate full of Skyline Chili and you’ll never come back.
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When someone dunks on your content, whether warranted or not, please refrain from the following:
“Thanks for reading/listening!”
“Thanks for the engagement!”
“Thanks for boosting our signal!”
Stand up for yourself. Sling some mud. Or at the very least, try to be more clever.
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@RASPicks
Oh and about the article. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a more self-serving written piece.
“We buy picks too! Be like us. We can’t tell you who we buy from (perfectly built in excuse, it will take away our edge if we disclosed) but trust us, we buy picks. You should too!”
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@spacemanOTH
I read the thread and I only had 1 question: why did they close a successful betting start up?
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@JoeyKnish22
@ShipTheJustice
@PlusEVPropBets
@TheHammerHQ
I beg you, please, stop making this the standard response when someone gives feedback on a podcast/show/tweet. We have to come up with something better.
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@MrLiimited
@bronerp4p
I agree there could be merit to what you’re doing, but when you’re saying things like “doing X tends to work,” how many trials are in your sample size?
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@bronerp4p
@JeffreyBenson12
@CarbonBradyCrew
@BrettFavre444
@TheTailgateTent
@GamblingDrama
@dlGgSyeTaGaiN
@RASPicks
Hot take: people would actually like to hear about the aspects of running a sharp sportsbook that guys behind the counter consider boring. Explore details the general gambling public doesn’t see it consider, but routinely bring up as easy solutions.
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@primesportsbook
@CircaSports
Hold up, you’re telling me I could have already been hitting you on soft props, SGP’s, and off-market sides/totals?
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@walls_edward
Scroll back through your own feed before throwing stones. I know it might be crazy for someone like you, but not all of us want to give out plays to eventually sell them as part of a service.
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@joeyisaks
@losing_bettor
I see this type of reply a lot, and you’re 100% correct. But….
Why normalize/rationalize/frame him as anything but a scam tout?
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Gold medal for tout gymnastics, per usual.
@FerrisB_86
I've responded in good faith to four different messages from you today. If you have a point you'd like to make, please do, otherwise let's move on.
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@CorkCutter
@JoeyKnish22
@PlusEVAnalytics
Limiting decisions could be more erratic and random than people would like to believe.
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If you get this sort of insider info and the bet still loses, I’m not sure what we can trust anymore. This is the stuff that creates 🔒 of the year.
To address the inside information I had on the match:
I have a friend in Germany who has been going to every match of the Koblenz tournament.
He said Molleker was at the match of his possible opponents taking notes and studying their game.
This information along with the fact
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@GamblingDrama
I think the more you tweet, the more people are gonna realize you don’t actually know what’s going on and/or you don’t actually bet on sports.
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@AltBurnerAcct
Just stop yourself at “reads something on Twitter.” If that’s happening, it’s already priced in.
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