Karthik Iyer
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@webdevMason
I remember the days when it was "obvious" to everyone (myself included) that overpopulation was the biggest problem in India, China, etc. The complete reversal of this narrative has made me less confident about anything I believe now.
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@mbateman
I remember seeing a Salman Khan commencement speech, where he mentioned that this view was once held about the ability to read (that most people just can’t do it).
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@thekaipullai
Valid points but I would add one more thing - real estate inflation has been very high, in some cases tracking or exceeding wage inflation. And this has an outsized impact since housing/renting is a high percentage of everyone’s expenses.
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@aaraynsh
Come on man, this is a very rosy picture. Maybe you are right on the vandalism part (which I'll agree is a big one). But the rest of it about being Indian first is not. I've heard multiple north Indians make fun of South Indian languages (e.g. call them "yedagudi" languages) or
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@wil_da_beast630
This is just common knowledge in India and I never understood the American spin on this.
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@patio11
Reminds me of India in the 1990s. Sad to see a high trust society slowly turning low trust.
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@Noahpinion
I’d give a lot of credit to America for this. The same set of people probably won’t have made it this far in any other region. E.g., I wouldn’t expect any similarly skilled Indians to become CEOs of European companies or even family run Indian companies.
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@emilychangtv
@elonmusk
@laurenepowell
@marissamayer
@sama
@CondoleezzaRice
Will the boards have Indians? Chinese? Those are pretty big and diverse groups that will be impacted by AI. A board of less than 10 people is necessarily going to leave some group under/over represented because of the small number of people on a board and the large number of ways
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@bgurley
I feel like Satya Nadella read Paul Graham’s “Microsoft is Dead” essay and took it very very seriously.
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@AdamMGrant
Outliers - challenged the belief that intelligence is what drives success
Fooled by Randomness - challenged the belief that there is a reason for everything
Thinking Fast and Slow - challenged the belief that I can always be rational
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@howie_hua
What is taught in schools in the name of Math is not Math at all, but rather following some series of steps ordained by "priests". E.g. Most teachers and students have no idea why the standard method of multiplication or division works - what they are doing either resembles the
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@championswimmer
We live in an era where the typical workplace may not last for 39 years itself.
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@wanyeburkett
In fact, english people working for the East India Company in the 1700s did exactly this - they adopted Indian names that everyone knew them by.
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@HannahFrankman
Forget bullying - whatever are considered the good parts of school socialization are also bad, the biggest being age segregation.
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@paraschopra
Draw clear boundaries and learn to be fine even if your loved ones make mistakes that hurt them.
(may not be considered bad advice in all cultures, but would be in India)
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@debarghya_das
It surprises me that these decisions involve so much talk about spreadsheet like criteria and hardly any talk about personal values and living in a place with similar values.
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@vivekraju93
I traveled roughly a similar distance along the same route (Boisar to Andheri) for about 2 months to attend school in 11th class. It was a physically draining commute given the conditions of Mumbai’s local trains - makes it all the more harder to practice cricket everyday.
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@thepurpledoe
Where in India did you grow up? What you're describing feels so foreign to me. All the Indian people I know have had to hide their relationships from their parents.
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@HannahFrankman
After all this we’re still left with poor social skills, if you need to talk to someone with an age difference >10 years.
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@kunalb11
I am generally surprised to hear this because the only place where I was routinely encouraged to think for myself was IIT-JEE coaching.
Maybe the norm is much worse, but nobody else is encouraging research from students anyway, certainly not schools.
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@AmanHasNoName_2
@championswimmer
Nah. JEE prep helps me even 15 years later. It's not uncommon to find someone solve economics problems in an MBA based on general concepts learnt during JEE prep. It probably only helps students who actually tried to learn some physics/chemistry/math though - I can understand if
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@sanjeevsanyal
I avoided watching nearly the entire quarterfinal, semifinal, and final in 2011. I watched one ball in India's innings in the final and that was one where Gautam Gambhir got bowled 🤦♂️
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@evelynharlow_
If at all the pendulum has swung too far away from “men shouldn’t cry”, then I suspect it only happened in some rare circles. As far as I can tell from my circles, the pendulum has barely moved. (appreciate nuance in original post though)
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@shantanugoel
Similar thing happens if anyone complains about India as well. Probably caused the by same factors.
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@debarghya_das
I would add one more factor. Women (at least in India) have not had the option to pick their husband until recently. It’s going to be a while before this skill of “picking a husband” is widely developed. In the meantime, any man can be rejected even for arbitrary reasons.
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@krishnanrohit
@FlorianReike
When people complain that Bill Gates left Microsoft to make more money elsewhere, I realize how poorly understood the lucrativeness of software companies is.
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@michelletandler
Unfortunately, many solutions to inequality involve leaving everyone equally poor.
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@theliverdr
In an alternate reality I may have swayed towards studying Ayurveda myself after class 12. I shudder when I think of that and thank my stars that it did not happen.
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@caleb_friesen2
I feel that there is something going with the intensity of sunlight as well. I could drive without sunglasses in india but feel unsafe driving without sunglasses in the US.
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@downloadcue
I have worked out of India for an American company, and the time difference is a significant barrier to getting things done. The famous successful all-remote companies so far (e.g., Basecamp) keep most of their employees within a few hours of each other in terms of time zones.
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@svembu
I have a hypothesis that you would be able to impart a good school education (better than the usual 1st to 12th standard level in scope and quality) in just 4-6 years. The long term implications of this could be huge. Good luck and excited to see what you achieve!
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@Aella_Girl
I’m thinking that if it’s really a subtle collar then 90% of parents can’t possibly know what it means.
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@primalpoly
@WSJ
Male Indian Engineers have been talking about this (and the specific ways it applies to them) for 10+ years.
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@championswimmer
Lack of a good purpose is the underlying issue here as well. With good purpose, it's possible to clock 70h and spend 60h working. With lack of purpose, no one's going to make it beyond 35h of work done.
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@kennymxu
@primalpoly
If anything, the SAT was too easy and needed to be much harder to increase equity.
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@GergelyOrosz
Does this mean that the cost of hiring developers had been tax exempt until now? If so, I did not know that
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@drgurner
@MindHaste
I think such generalizations vastly underestimate the variability among parents.
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@chrismanfrank
I would argue that most people actually have poor social skills *because* of schools. Then we try to mask these poor social skills for the rest of our lives by interacting only with a small bubble of people who are similar to us (as we were trained to in school).
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@orangebook_
I would modify this. You can learn a lot about someone by listening to how they talk about others (e.g., their parents) *relative* to how they talk about themselves.
Someone hard on both themselves and others sends a different message from someone hard only on others.
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@anuatluru
So true. My friendships are almost all 1:1 and I have seen it get harder to stay in touch with my friends as I age, move to other cities, etc.
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@proetrie
@YehongZhu
Actually this may be closer to the truth than it seems at first. The fact that "bad game, good partner" equals "nice guy" but not someone you'd want to date reveals a lot.
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@csmikolajuk
@HarvardAlumni
@Harvard
In my experience, universities mostly avoid taking about the odds of getting a work visa, which is a prerequisite to discuss an exit strategy.
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@debarghya_das
That’s true of most of the women I know of roughly my generation, but a generation ago it wasn’t the case (at least where I came from).
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@krishnanrohit
I think the ratio of Super Fans to Casual Fans is high in games (people are either really into it or not at all into it). So value created is created for fewer people but they’re willing to pay (or be exposed to ads).
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@default_friend
Yeah, many of these threads come down to the point that for super wealthy Indians with good community (the 0.1% or more often 0.01% of Indian society), it's worse to start off with a blank slate in the US than leverage their position in Indian society.
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@clairlemon
Maybe they always found it hard to find eligible mates, but now for the first time they can pick no mate over ineligible mates?
(Eligible and ineligible are going to subjective opinions, of course)
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@Chinmayi
I also found it really rich that an Indian male would complain about Indian females’ “hawas ki pyaas”.
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@chrismanfrank
My kid is only two years old, but I'm guessing 1-2 hours a day of academics will be enough when I try this myself.
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I certainly didn’t realize how conditioned/indoctrinated I was until I moved to a different country.
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@GergelyOrosz
Ah I see! Last question - For a company with $500 in salaries (hypothetically), I’m visualizing $500 in salaries deducted as R&D expense outside the US, but only $100 deducted in the US (assuming amortization over 5 years). And that leads to higher tax obligations in the US. Is
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@krishnanrohit
Economic prowess = Value Created * Percent Value Captured.
I suspect games have economic prowess mostly because of the latter, and cultural footprint depends on the former.
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@AlyssaJoyJaffee
@JohnWilson
Sometimes it says that they had nobody to tell them what kind of social etiquette this particular employer/industry uses (overconfidently) as a proxy to judge character.
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@LBacaj
I hear an argument around “leaving a trace” often and wonder why it’s important to leave a trace at all. I understand if that’s a source of meaning for some people but is there a factor here beyond individual preference?
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@paulg
Hypothesis: the effect of parenting practices seems low because current widely adapted practices are not very useful, not because "nurture" doesn't matter. I think similar studies on the impact of medicine on health in the 19th century would have shown that medicine has little
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@shrihacker
I think the discussions on this topic have gone tribal and low quality. I see it as this: long hours are helpful if you have a good purpose and they are not helpful otherwise. So:
(1) yes if you want to succeed big then working hard is a necessary condition
(2) but of the Indians
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@protosphinx
Whenever I hear the stereotype that India is full of entrepreneurs, this is exactly what I think of. India is full of traders, not entrepreneurs, and those are different things.
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@chrismanfrank
@normonics
@JoshuaSteinman
My guess is that this was a reference to Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber.
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@paulg
Do you think this applies to fields like Civil/Chemical/Mechanical/Electrical engineering as well?
(I’m assuming “engineering” by default refers to computer/software engineers here)
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@realEstateTrent
@VJR_RE
I think young applicants could benefit from hearing what actual bonuses could be, and what kind of results would be needed to get those bonuses.
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@JonErlichman
Good to see that almost all of them are children of "non billionaires". So at least we have value creation going on. I would rather see more billionaires with less inherited wealth than a few billionaires with majority inherited wealth (ie value creation over rent seeking).
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@surbhiskjain
I would modify your PS to say that some parents are indeed better than others. Trying to pretend as a society that this doesn’t happen is harming too many kids. I get why it’s risky for you to say that though.
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@Rahul_J_Mathur
One reason is probably that role descriptions at large companies are mostly meaningless. Either jargon, or a wish list of aspirational stuff they can't realistically find in just one candidate.
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@paraschopra
Rather than a single thing, I will recommend a whole book of such things.
The Body - A Guide for Occupants, is full of trivia that is both mundane and mind blowing at the same time.
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@warikoo
@morganhousel
Isn't it more a case of suiting the strategy to your goals?
E.g., double down without diversifying when young to maximize long term outcome. But diversify and play it safe when old because, well, the time horizon is short-medium.
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@shantanugoel
Within seconds of an accident I always see 5+ people rushing to help, so yes I think the people themselves are kind/compassionate/helpful. I think it is systems level stuff that breaks down in India - that too because of the history of India rather than individual people's
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@Aella_Girl
Why do you think men are systematically less curious than women? That sounds like an odd and probably untrue assumption to me.
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@flowidealism
Even 25%-30% feels like too high an estimate to me. I think many people may assume that I am one of the people that school worked for, but that is not how I feel. There might be a bit of this going on.
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@paraschopra
Making it possible to complete a standard school education (class 1-12) in 4 years.
It seems possible based on what home schoolers achieve, and it should dramatically accelerate interest in educating poor children - because now you can save them fast!
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@warikoo
@chetanhere
I don’t think it is poor product design because the lift user almost never knows the lift position, and thus it cannot confuse them. So if they want to go down, they would press the down button regardless of where the lift was.
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@Gravito841
My semi controversial take is that B schools are declining, and thus measuring outcomes in terms of B school admits will be an increasingly useless way of measuring success (though it's useful for now).
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@proetrie
Plain white wedding dresses (in the west).
Extremely bright and colorful wedding dresses (in India).
Don't know many guys who consider either attractive.
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@thekaipullai
I would say the first is Jugaad, we do it, and it's nit even 1/10 as useful as it's marketed to be. Regarding the second, I have no good name for it, but I won't call it Jugaad because it's not done in India (where the word Jugaad is used extensively).
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@varunramg
Quota started declining in 2013 itself, soon after it went for quantity of posts over quality.
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@Aella_Girl
33% people think colonialism was good. I wonder what percent of people from formerly colonized countries think that - my guess is close to 0%.
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@Austen
I wish they did this with childhood education. Teach only a few things, really well, really fast, so you didn’t spend 22 years getting a “basic” education before figuring out what you really wanted to learn.
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@shrihacker
Longtime NRN fan here: I think there is a critical error in his take. Production is a vector - it has both magnitude and direction. Indian society has provided either poor direction or misdirection to its youth - exhibit A is all the youngsters wasting their 20s on UPSC prep.
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@paulg
My tell for a priestly caste is that they’re engaged exclusively in professions where one cannot be conclusively proven wrong + don’t need to have skin in the game.
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@KapoorAviral
@aaraynsh
That's a snarky comment but I'll attempt an honest response anyway. Of course I have heard of people making fun yada yada. But if someone were to say, for example to a bus conductor in Bangalore, in an angry tone, "tujhe hindi bhi nahi aati?" then I think it's safe to assume
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@wanyeburkett
Forget foreign languages, Americans are famously bad at even basic foreign geography.
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