Alistair Stewart Ⓥ ⏸️
@alistair___s
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smash the window and rescue the dog yourself
Still hearing about dogs being removed from cars by various police forces. Come on people..We shouldn’t even be exercising dogs in this weather so there’s really no excuse to be taking your dog out with you in the car, particularly if you may need to leave unattended 😫 🐶 🥵
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I went vegan two years ago yesterday, I think it's the single best decision I've ever made, and I think you should go vegan too. 1/16
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@TinekeYounger01
"I was going to kill the puppy for fun regardless, would you rather me give it a quick death or boil it alive??"
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Proud to be part of the first ever protest calling for a global moratorium on the development of AI systems more powerful than GPT-4! See you at 5pm Monday for more of the same.
#PauseAI
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animal experimentation is morally wrong for the same reason that non-consensual human experimentation* is morally wrong:
exploiting (non-consensually using as a means to an end) and hurting sentient beings is morally wrong
*
Students interested in STEM should probably know that if you create an anonymous forum for biologists, you get constant posts from people having existential crises over being pressured into mass mouse murder 🧵
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@TinekeYounger01
What's the morally relevant difference between a lobster and a puppy that means it's okay to kill *only* the lobster for sensory pleasure?
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this is legal and happens in the UK, and it's called 'piglet thumping'
Factory ‘farming’ is the ultimate expression of human evil. Discuss.
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But the reason why going vegan was the best decision I've ever made comes down to morality.
I see veganism – doing what you can to avoid causing the exploitation and suffering of animals – as a moral stance, a moral obligation, and a political boycott. 9/16
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But, in the words of
@mollyelwood
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"It was such a relief to let go of all the cognitive dissonance of seeing animals suffering my whole life, and feeling bad, and never doing anything about it." 10/16
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If you think hurting animals unnecessarily is wrong, you already hold vegan values. Now it's time to align your behaviour with those values. 15/16
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The evening slot outside
@DeepMind
in London calling for a global moratorium on the development of AI systems more powerful than GPT-4. We had some great discussions with DeepMind employees leaving the building - many share at least some of our concerns. Read on to learn why!
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Best ever turnout at a London
@PauseAI
protest in rainy Parliament Square today! More photos / videos to follow. In the meantime get Wed 1 Nov in your diaries - we're going to be at Bletchley Park for the first ever AI Safety Summit ✊
Check us out at
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it's good to stop the torture of sentient beings
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@halogen1048576
@s8mb
"keep" is a euphemism for breed into existence, exploit, confine and kill
it's important to not do those things to sentient beings – including salmons – because they're moral patients worthy of our moral consideration
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The driver pleaded guilty and was given a $2000 fine and a 12-month driving restriction
Thinking about this in the context of
@waynehhsiung
's conviction on Thursday
***WARNING: GRAPHIC VIDEO***
New Information About The Death of Regan Russell
It's come to light that just seconds before the truck driver who mowed down and killed animal rights protestor Regan Russell started driving towards her, he was instructed to stay put and NOT MOVE by a
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I'm now thinking of veganism not as a *way of living* (sounds like Crossfit) or an *individual ethical stance* (easily triggers "personal choice" conversations), but instead as a *political boycott*.
Veganism is then framed as a form of *collective action*:
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More from London following the world’s first internationally-coordinated
@PauseAI
protest! On Saturday protesters came together in seven cities demanding a ban on the creation of artificial superintelligence, a week before
@RishiSunak
's AI Safety Summit. Read on ⬇️
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My point is not that I couldn't have done those things before I went vegan, or even that eating plant-based *necessarily* improves physical performance, but rather that you *can* flourish physically on a plant-based diet. 4/16
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I miss not feeling occasionally overwhelmed by the intensity and scale of suffering that we are choosing to inflict on animals.
I miss having uncomplicated relationships with non-vegan family and friends. 13/16
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Since going vegan I have run my first half marathon, competed in my first powerlifting competition, and completed my first Tough Mudder – each without much training. 3/16
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I miss not feeling confused, isolated and upset by seeing people I love knowingly pay for animals to be bred into existence and effectively tortured, because it's normal and convenient to do so. 14/16
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Selfishly, there is one thing I sometimes miss from before I went vegan: not really knowing or thinking about what sentient animals are enduring, in farms, laboratories, zoos, breeding facilities, pet shops, circuses, race tracks, all across the world, all the time. 12/16
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@biitchbeer
@TinekeYounger01
I'm saying we should avoid exploiting and hurting *all* animals as far as practicable, because they're *all* worthy of moral consideration and care.
Do you disagree?
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If you went vegan *now*, what would be the hardest thing about it? Feel free to DM me if you'd like to talk more. 🌱 16/16
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I've been pretty fit and healthy for all of my adult life – six years as a flexitarianish meat-eater, two years as a vegetarian, two years as a vegan – and a fully plant-based diet absolutely supports my health and wellbeing. 2/16
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I feel my intellectual, social and moral life is richer, deeper, and more aligned than ever before. 11/16
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@bigfatsurprise
"Must also consider that lead researcher, Christopher Gardner, was a vegan before he ever started studying diet, so has a bias baked into his research."
Presumably all non-vegans also have a bias baked into their research?
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I did a routine blood test on the National Health Service three months ago and all my results (including ferritin, folate and bone health) were in the normal range – apart from my vitamin B12 level, which was too high(!) due to the supplement I was taking. 6/16
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@GeorgeMonbiot
@RSPCA_official
Thank you for writing this powerful piece George.
Here is
@AnimalRising
's video report into the
@rspcaassured
scheme:
Please watch, then sign our petition here:
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Last year I finished my master's degree with the highest grades I've ever received at university, and have felt more intellectually engaged and capable than I felt before I went vegan. And I feel luckier than ever to have the friends I do. 8/16
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Pre-vegans losing their minds over a bit of calf ramming
I can think of no reasonable need for this action.
I’ve asked for a full, urgent explanation for this.
It appears to be unnecessarily heavy handed.
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And it's likely to come with a number of health benefits - just look at fibre deficiency rates! 5/16
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Best bit about this shoddy thread is how this non-vegan draws a parallel between animal farming and slavery
So vegans consume animals all the time, they are just in denial about it. It's like a person who says "I think slave labor is bad" and then buys all their stuff from places that employ slaves. It's not a hypocrisy but a second order thoughtlessness. Untenable as philosophy.
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Yesterday was
@PauseAI
's fourth protest in London, calling for a global moratorium on the development of AI systems more powerful than GPT-4.
Some great conversations had with civil servants and members of the public - increasing awareness of and support for our cause!
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@mariparties66
@TinekeYounger01
she killed the lobster for sensory pleasure and TikTok views
what's the moral difference between that and "fun"?
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single most based tweet i've ever seen
@alistair___s
@mollyelwood
Nothing is stopping me, so I'll do that. I'll go vegan. There's really no excuse not to be. Thanks for this.
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@RSPCA_official
Weak.
You know the only thing that *will* prevent horseracing fatalities in the future, and that's abolishing horse racing.
Why do race horses deserve less protection than greyhounds?
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Nothing is more inspiring to me than this right now - follow
@SonomaTrial
for more on open rescue, social/legal change and a story of deep moral virtue
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(My doctor said this isn't a problem, but I've reduced the strength of the supplement.) 7/16
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Two (paraphrased!) things that DeepMind employees have said to me this evening:
"I don't agree with everything you say, but I'm glad you're here because we need to talk about safety more."
"I think a global moratorium is a good idea, I just don't know how to make it happen."
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new anti-vegan argument just dropped 🔥
@alistair___s
@vinkoid
@andyswarbs
@ElCour
@nick_andrws
It’s similar to wearing clothes. Not wearing them would be inconvenient in a number of ways (cold, social norms, etc). If someone managed to convince me that avoiding clothes makes the world better enough to compensate, I would. Nobody has.
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What happens when humans build something that is more intelligent than us - without knowing how it works or how to control it?
I don't know.
But if our treatment of less intelligent species is anything to go by, we should be very, very worried.
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@cherubIiss
@TinekeYounger01
Why does it matter morally whether an animal is a 'pet' or a 'food animal'? These are made-up categories imposed on the animal by humans, analogous to humans imposing categories like 'slave owner' and 'slave' on other humans.
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@ElwoodDogMeat
Don't meet your heroes eh 😒
I used to look up to Dr Grandin for her incredible work on harvesting livestock humanely - disappointed by this. Hoping she'll find the courage to speak out against the militant antis soon and support
@ElwoodDogMeat
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@BBCArchive
"If it were all in my mind I could see a psychiatrist and that would be the end of the matter, but this is real!"
Beautiful
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Proud to have been part of the
@PauseAI
protest at Bletchley Park during the world's first ever
@AISafetySummit
.
Anything short of a ban on developing artificial superintelligence is not safe.
More to follow - in the meantime check out
✊ ⏸️
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@BenGoldsmith
This is known as 'piglet thumping' in the UK and is legal:
If you're not vegan yet, learn more about animal farming in the UK here and here .
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Did my first in-studio interview today :)
Watch the full thing here:
🔥Watch our spokesperson Alistair on TalkTV with Julia Heartly-Brewer🔥
Watch the full interview on our YouTube channel - link in bio!
#AnimalRising
#ForAllLife
#AnimalRights
#AnimalLiberation
#AnimalLover
#RSPCAAssured
#RSPCA
#AnimalWelfare
#AnimalRescue
@rspcaassured_offical
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@DrMiriam
@sentientist
If "society's strongest taboos" is what guides your moral philosophy, presumably you would have opposed interracial marriage and homosexuality back when they were still taboo?
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Temple Grandin ripping up an
@ElwoodDogMeat
flyer whilst saying dog meat farming is "too hot an issue" for her is the funniest thing I've seen in a while lmao
DR. TEMPLE GRANDIN VIOLENTLY RIPPED UP ELWOODS BROCHURE!! WHY⚠️⁉️
Temple is an absolute legend & our personal hero. She's renowned for designing high welfare slaughter contraptions and working with mega animal processing plants alongside McDonalds, Burger King, & Whole Foods! A
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Going viral 😈
@TinekeYounger01
"I was going to kill the puppy for fun regardless, would you rather me give it a quick death or boil it alive??"
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@biitchbeer
@TinekeYounger01
Do you think that farming and killing animals doesn't hurt them?
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@PauseAI
held our first protest outside the Foreign Office in London yesterday, calling on UK Foreign Secretary
@JamesCleverly
to push for a global moratorium on AGI development at the
@UN
Security Council's first
meeting on threats from AI on Tuesday next week.
🧵
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The ruckus I caused with this tweet has quietened down - after 448k views and 330 overwhelmingly angry replies 🫢
Is this good advocacy? Do I even have a point here, or is it stupid or even offensive to compare lobsters to puppies? Let me know what you think!
@TinekeYounger01
"I was going to kill the puppy for fun regardless, would you rather me give it a quick death or boil it alive??"
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1. It's collective: you're connected with other people and part of a community and movement, one of whose aims is to grow
2. It's action: it's about effecting systems change – political, moral, social, legal – not keeping one's own hands clean
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This paragraph is the most devastating takedown of human supremacy over non-humans I have come across, courtesy of Sue Donaldson and Will Kymlicka (p.29 of Zoopolis).
If you're still not vegan yet - how do you justify it?
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Animals feel pain, just like us
Animals want to live, just like us
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One thing I really care about is suffering - in all sentient beings, regardless of species or substrate.
It's not just humanity who matters.
I'd love to see a shift in AI discourse that reflects this.
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@primalpoly
Seems pretty bad morally to have kids just in order to make yourself happier
Also seems pretty bad morally to have kids just because you're descended from people who had kids
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@CA_TimB
Is the killing of the animals for fun wrong? Or only the dumping of their bodies in public places?
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@cjtaylor92
@theresecoffey
@GeorgeMonbiot
@spectator
Deeply worrying. The ideology behind fallacious appeals to nature like this will accelerate climate breakdown.
"even if fossil fuel emissions were immediately halted, current trends in global food systems would prevent the achievement of the 1.5°C target...
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@MxLovelyRose94
@TinekeYounger01
"The vegan who opposes hurting all sentient non-human animals is extreme, and I'm reasonable"
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"It is hard to overestimate the advances that medical science could have made by now if researchers had been able to [non-consensually] use human subjects, rather than imperfect animal stand-ins. Yet we do not view this as a sacrifice.
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I think
@GavinNewsom
should sign
#SB1047
, and if you have the capacity to influence him in this direction I think you should do so
@elonmusk
You're the best, Elon!
TLDR of 1047:
1. If you don’t train a model with $100 million in compute, and don’t fine-tune a ($100m+) model with $10 million in compute (or rent out a very large compute cluster), this law does not apply to you.
2. “Critical harm” means $500 million in
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@JoeWStanley
Watch this 50-minute documentary on UK animal farming to learn where those products come from:
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we're all animal rights activists deep down
the only step most of us have to take is becoming consistent
Police stop a truck transporting 226 dogs destined for ‘human consumption’
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"Instead, he looked me full in the face, apprising me evenly, with a serious, uncompromising expression. “Dad,” he said. “This is really happening.”"
Beautiful piece! Please read.
The
@NewRepublic
was kind enough to let me write about my decision to forswear animal products. It’s the most heartfelt thing I’ve ever written.
OK, not a high bar 😁 but it would mean a lot to me if you’d read and consider sharing it. (Link ⤵️)
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the moral/political philosophy of many many leftists boils down to "might makes right" when it comes to animals
"liberation for me, but not for thee"
@alistair___s
@biitchbeer
@TinekeYounger01
Because I am hungry and this is the literal circle of life. Apparently studies have shown plants feel pain too, so are you just gonna drink water the rest of your life?
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@JackEastriver2
@bigfatsurprise
1. No, you're constantly making the choice to be non-vegan.
2. Are you implying the default is always free from bias?
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@PiersUncensored
@kevinblake2011
@Roolockwood
@TalkTV
Orla: "I hope that they have provision to care for these horses for the duration of their life"
Kevin: "They have provision for their purpose"
So horses will only be cared for as long as they serve a purpose to the racing industry - is that what you're saying
@kevinblake2011
?
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@jEffersOnscoot
@TinekeYounger01
>just make the decisions relevant for your life and leave everyone else out of it?
So it's okay to kill and eat a puppy because you like the taste of his flesh?
There actually are dog meat farmers - check out
@ElwoodDogMeat
and see how it makes you feel.
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If preventing and alleviating the most intense forms of suffering isn't at the heart of your moral philosophy - why not? What could matter more than this? If you were the one suffering, would you think anything else mattered more?
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@RSPCA_official
@RSPCA_official
: "every animal deserves kindness"
@rspcaassured
: *gives their stamp of approval to repeatedly, forcibly impregnating animals, mutilating their bodies, confining them, and killing them in highly painful ways - e.g. gassing pigs in chambers*
Which is it?
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Two
@PauseAI
protests coming up in London!
When: 4.30-5.30pm, Thu 13 & Tue 18 Jul
Where: outside the Foreign Office in Westminster
Why: to call on the UK to push for a global pause on AGI development at the first UN Security Council meeting on AI threats
Join us ✊✊✊
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Incredibly powerful article and thread from
@GeorgeMonbiot
👇
"Through its Assured scheme, [the RSPCA] actively promotes animal suffering. If you care about animal welfare, support organisations like
@AnimalRising
, which exposed the latest horrors promoted by the RSPCA."
How Britain’s oldest animal welfare charity became a byword for cruelty on an industrial scale.
My column on
@RSPCA_official
's astonishing betrayal of its principles. It now does more, in my view, to promote animal cruelty than to prevent it. Plus bonus🧵
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@xriskology
Sounds like you understand the "why" – what's stopping you from calling yourself vegan once you wake up tomorrow?
@mollyelwood
describes her experience beautifully here:
"Making the kind choice becomes this gift"
@mollyelwood
🤩 - CEO of
@ElwoodDogMeat
joins me for
#Sentientism
Ep: 175 on YouTube & Podcast. Please share if you think our conversation should be heard more widely 💚
Full thing here & here's a clip:
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⏸️ Next
@PauseAI
protest in London ⏸️
When: 4.20–5pm this Wed 29 Nov
Where: outside Logan Hall, 20 Bedford Way, London, WC1H 0AL
What: protesting outside
@demishassabis
's talk at UCL (followed by free pizza!)
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@biitchbeer
@TinekeYounger01
You didn't answer my question. I'm not talking about eating animals; I'm talking about farming and killing them
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@CApressoffice
@thetimes
There is no "sustainable red meat production":
We have no future but a plant-based future. Come on Edinburgh, make it happen 💪
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@biitchbeer
@TinekeYounger01
Sounds like you think that animals can be farmed and killed in a way that doesn't hurt them?
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@biitchbeer
@TinekeYounger01
Sounds like you acknowledge that farming and killing animals hurts them.
How do you morally justify inflicting that pain?
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based
Increases in vegan numbers has generated a democratic issue in the UK.
Some popualtion stats show more vegans than farmers.
I think more farmers should be fighting for the future of their animals.
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I'm at the International Animal Rights Conference in Luxembourg till Sunday (along with more than a few
@plantbasedunis
campaigners) - if you're here please say hi! :)
#IARC2024
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"You’re going to prison for a long time." – Judge Hehir
I'll be here outside Southwark Crown Court at 4pm today in support of the
#WholeTruthFive
as they continue their historic civil resistance – join me if you can.
🚨 BREAKING: The
#WholeTruthFive
Arrive at Southwark Crown Court
⛓️ Today, Lou, Cressie, Lucia, Roger and Daniel will be sentenced by Judge Hehir, and face up to 10 years in prison.
🧡 A crowd of supporters gathered to welcome them as they were driven from prison.
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@Sola_Requiem
@nick_andrws
Not all humans are sapient - e.g. newborn babies or severely cognitively impaired humans. Do they inherently possess less moral value than you and I?
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Join us at the first ever protest calling for a moratorium on the development of artificial general intelligence (AGI)!
When: 1200-1400 Fri 19 May and 1700-2000 Mon 22 May
Where: outside the Google DeepMind office at S2 Handyside, 8 Handyside Street, King’s Cross, London, N1C 4DJ
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@PiersUncensored
@piersmorgan
@TalkTV
To not be bothered by animal suffering and exploitation - but to be bothered by the hypocrisy of those who seek to reduce and oppose it - is evidence of moral immaturity. Very little good has been achieved by those whose highest moral priority is pointing out hypocrisy in others.
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@AnimalRising
@RoyalFamily
What's really shocking is that
@RSPCA_official
are effectively committing fraud through the
@rspcaassured
scheme:
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@sentientist
@SimoneHCollins
If your point is "it's okay to hit your kids", why not just say that?
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@LTfisch
The onus is not on individuals like me to stop torturing puppies for fun, the onus is on society to incentivize people to stop torturing puppies for fun.
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@Sola_Requiem
@nick_andrws
You can justify farming human toddlers if you replace "other creatures" with "human toddlers" in Premise 2
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if you're not yet vegan and you're curious to know what the world looks like to vegans, have a quick watch 👇
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@fortheanimals2
Meat dog breeding farm somewhere in China. Dogs are industrially raised, and once they are big enough, they are sent to slaughterhouses.
#bantheconsumptionofdogs
#bandogmeat
#wearenotfood
#dogslifeinchina
#mansbestfriends
#dogmeat
#dogmeattrade
#stopyulin
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