@Zereneilux
Weird I thought the ones at dog shows were supposed to be the ones with "responsible breeding" and "responsible owners"?
Or the argument that show breeds (e.g. AmStaffs) are magically safe...
@wanyeburkett
This is why they respond to every post about a pit bull attack with a picture of their own next to a baby and say "it's not the breed! MY dog is fine"
There are nearly identical pictures for pits that later killed their owners.
Statistics show it's a breed issue.
@louisewilso
Does she know that her constituents are the humans, not the dogs? 🤔
I'm more concerned about people's rights to walk down the street without being attacked by a dog that was bred mostly from AmStaffs and APBTs — both banned under the pit bull type.
@Jess_inthewild
There are so many replies to that post advocating for TNR. 😑
The propaganda is so strong, especially in recent years with pro-TNR shelters funding new "research" on it that coincidentally always seems to find that it works, in contrast with most literature. 🫠
@RSPCA_official
While the problem may seem insurmountable because "likelihood of aggressive behaviour is complex & multi-factorial," the end result of attacks and fatalities is quite clearly dominated by one type of dog. It's a breed-related issue.
So XL Bully ban opponents are claiming a broom handle shouldn't have been used to break up a fight between dogs.
What should have been done?
Should she have let them fight and injure each other?
Should she have stuck her hand in the middle of it?
This is victim blaming.
@RSPCA_official
Sometimes I think about the police warnings in 2018 about the newly popular American Bully, and the RSPCA campaigning against any BSL.
It's sad to consider how many more people and pets would still be alive if it weren't for RSPCA campaigning with US lobbyist data.
@ThatVetSean
@AnnekaSvenska
This is horrendous. Promoting irresponsible breeding from a banned breed as well.
It's sad how much the American Bully community ignores this.
The largest funders (ABKC, Monster Bullies) of the XL Bully ban judicial review crop their dogs' ears and I am TIRED! 😩
The UK market is so saturated for American Bullies, and the shelters are full, turning away dog owners that can no longer deal with their American Bullies.
Aggressive dogs are being dumped on the streets, free to roam until dog wardens collect them.
@AnimalsCount
Sorry to hear you've capitulated to a small minority of dog owners who eschew any basic muzzle and lead safety rules, over the very real concerns of people and pets harmed by these dogs.
Continually pushing positions that lack scientific justification is not a good look.
This is your reminder that even with access to some of the greatest educational resources in the world, fighting breeds of dogs aren't "safe"
This dog was owned by the daughter of a US astronaut and former US congressional representative.
@BullyWatchUK
Animal welfare groups have betrayed the public trust.
The RSPCA rep Sam Gaines commented to the EFRA Committee about the mental health of vets.
Not mentioned:
- Dead and mauled pets
- Serious injuries
- Fatalities
This dog bit a security guard, yet unhinged bully apologists refused to believe it was true. His leg and arm were treated for injuries.
Apparently saveourseizeddogs is now having a bit of trouble keeping their fans from harassing the business and local police station.
XL Bully ban opponents: Responsible ownership prevents serious dog attacks. Young children should never be left with a dog! 😡
Also XL Bully ban opponents: Aww look at the video of a dog taking something from a baby's mouth 🥺
@Rhbox1
@Zereneilux
Normal person: "Put bulls are responsible for the majority of dog related deaths whilst labradors are mostly gentle"
Pit bull apologist: "Well then, how do you explain that my sister's Labrador was dog aggressive?! YOU CAN'T."
I disagree with most of Walsh's opinions but this one is spot on correct
Stop subjecting your households and community members to the risk of a life-changing attack just because you want to own a big scary dog or want to feel good about rescuing a "misunderstood" pet
I don’t often do this but today I issued a public apology. I’m sorry to all of the pit bull owners that I’ve criticized over the years. I realize now that your reasons for owning these animals are valid. I was wrong. I’m sorry.
Looks like XL Bully ban opponents are upset that they can't all pile on the journalists at The Economist.
For context, when The Economist released their podcast on the ban last month, the producer was forced to lock his twitter account due to abuse.
@BullyWatchUK
Bully lies
Breeders? Advertise a Bully XL, tell neighbours it's a Staffy cross
Shelters?
#clearTheShelters
means that dog is now a "lab mix"
Owners? She's a rescue, not sure what her breed is
RSPCA? Dog aggression is highly complex
Dog researchers? BSL does not prevent bites
@John_Cooper_QC
This is not cool.
Absolutely insensitive, especially to XL bully victims, who deal with issues such as:
- Lost physical function
- Numerous surgeries
- PTSD
- Pet death or injury
- Human death or injury
Writer Roseana Murray is discharged after her hospital stay following a pit bull attack during her morning walk in Brazil.
She was fortunate to escape with her life, but has lost her right arm and ear.
@cptmbf
@CJ_liberte
@pursuitofprog
How many loved, well trained, gentle pit bulls raised from puppies do you need to see turn on their owners before you realize it's the dogs are a problem?
Oh look, RSPCA back on their campaigning for dangerous dogs.
Why is this identification question relevant? In what world does breed identification from a single image without context for size give the RSPCA information on whether the DDA works?
How well do you know the Dangerous Dogs Act, and do you feel that it currently protects public safety? 🐕👮♂️
Take part in this quick, anonymous survey to help researchers explore public understanding on dog-related regulation:
@by_pets
It's so maddening when people mistakenly refer to pit bulls as"farm dogs" when the reality is they have enough prey drive and gameness to go after fully sized horses and cows.
It's become clear the Dog Control Coalition condones violent threats, harassment, and doxing from their members.
This is far more serious than their scientific improprieties. It's shutting down dissent with violence.
@RSPCA_official
@DogsTrust
@dontbanlicence
@saveseizeddogs
@tracewoodgrains
The shelters aren't helping. They play down breed differences with "all dogs are individuals" yet paradoxically aim for a live release rate of >90% to achieve a no-kill label, regardless of intake stats.
When so many surrendered dogs are aggressive, the math ain't mathing.
1: Shelters have pit bulls surrendered for aggression because ppl believe "it's all in how you raise them" and dump bitey dogs
2: Shelters adopt no-kill goal (90% release) without doing the math
3: Wait a few years, most shelter dogs are pit bulls with aggression issues
Veterinarians in the UK: please be careful. XL Bully ban opponents are sharing vet clinic information and addresses, encouraging others to protest outside of their clinics. I fear escalation.
#vettwitter
Please stay safe ♥️
Dear God. Not only have the XL Bully ban opponents been running a months-long harassment campaign against the UK's largest group for dog attack victims, but now they've created a dog bite victim astroturfing group?
Impersonating victims is really gross conduct.
XL Bully ban opponents, as usual, show their love of cropped dog ears.
This dog chain company does fundraising with anti-BSL groups like UKDPT and Save Our Bullies.
This is abhorrent and hypocritical — advocating for responsible ownership whilst platforming ear cropping.
@by_pets
Ridiculous that dogs that were literally bred to fight other dogs to the death are not considered dangerous by default.
Nobody temperament tests tigers to determine if they are safe.
@BullyWatchUK
It's odd how American Bully owners say it's the owners, not the dog, yet their dogs cause the most fatalities.
Now it's breeders blaming the other breeders.
Do they think they live on Lake Wobegon? Every owner and breeder is convinced they're one of the "good" ones.
As long as the US pit bull and shelter lobbying groups prioritize
#clearTheShelters
and "all dogs are equal risk" over safety, stories like this will happen.
You can thank Best Friends, the ASPCA, Maddie's Fund et al. for promoting the disinfo that makes these deaths possible.
Absolutely toxic behaviour. This is a subset of tweets from one single day.
This sets a dangerous example for the rest of the anti-ban activists in the UK
Do better
Imagine having your last moments on earth being an effort to stop your son's dogs from fighting by putting a broom between them.
Then they redirect on you and you die.
And then after your death, people say you were responsible for your own excruciating and painful death.
@BullyWatchUK
If this is the granny hitting the poor dogs and not for the first time. They were breeding the dogs for ill gain. The poor dogs suffer again. The granny was culpable.
I wonder if the RSPCA will be forced to apologize in the same way the Quebec Order of Veterinarians did?
They use the exact same studies as evidence. 🤷♀️
Instead of setting a good example for their followers, Save our Bullies, the group helping DBMLM with their legal challenge against the XL Bully ban, sends angry messages like this to veterinarians, then shares with over 8.5k followers for clout.
From this past week.
Look I found proof that lions never kill gazelles because look at them lounging about during these 42 seconds of video.
Blame the deed not the breed.
Checkmate, lion haters ✌
/s
People didn't like seeing this pittie show up at dog sports competitions at first, but watch him win at everything!
Keep up with Pirate and Asha and all their adventures on Instagram: .
Anything bad that American Bully owners do, like abandoning dogs, is suddenly the responsibility of those who are for the ban.
At least people get their 15 minutes of fame for putting the UK though a useless judicial review.
It's really something — seeing XL Bully owners refer to muzzle use on dogs as "abuse" and "punishment for innocent dogs" — despite other dog breeds that wear them daily!
I could imagine them discussing seat belt laws as "abuse" and "punishment for innocent passengers"
Bully dog apologists continually show they are not nice people.
Imagine spending your time vandalising wikipedia entries on UK dog bite-related fatalities, removing the entry of a 10-year-old boy being killed by an American Bully just to add a dig at Rishi Sunak.
@WNCadventurer
@_B___S
Tigers don't know they are a certain species and in fact they only attack gazelles because they are abused 🥺
If only they had less violent trainers they wouldn't have such a bad stereotype
The Calgary Model
Dog owner and one of his dogs injured.
Missing from the headline — these two pit bulls killed another small dog immediately following the incident.
These are zero mistake dogs.
This is your periodic reminder that all those "pittie" videos from the dodo are a deliberate rebranding of a dog bred to unalive large animals.
The executive editor who created the project owns pit bulls.
@ITVTonight
@RSPCA_official
@CharlotteHawkns
Predicting aggression in dogs is an academic exercise. The problem isn't a dog's aggression per se - it's whether it results in an attack.
The American Bully attack data is clear, yet RSPCA discussion continually points to an outdated bite study from Tulloch and Westgarth et al.
@ISPCA1
Your statement illustrates the problem quite clearly.
Despite being a tiny fraction of dogs overall they are THIRTEEN PERCENT of dogs in care.
Why keep breeding dogs with fighting traits, that are responsible for so many attacks against pets and people? It's not ethical.
It's clear that those against the upcoming XL Bully ban in the UK are running out of arguments.
Instead of coherent arguments, their posts seem to focus more on insulting & doxxing average twitter & facebook users and making fun of politicians.
Given how many XL Bullies have killed children, fully grown adults and uncountable numbers of pets, who better fits the label of "dog killer lobby"?
I would argue that XL Bully owners comprise the largest killer dog lobby, given their legal funding for dogs that have killed.
@ChrisWinsGG
@BullyWatchUK
This dude thinks average people are using the word “worried” when talking about getting “mauled” by dogs. Let me remind you this lady never said she got “mauled” she said the dog “jumped on her and snapped” the dog killer lobby put the word mauled in there to make it something.
@RSPCA_official
It's tragic. It's breeding for looks over health, similar to joint problems in American Bullies.
It's makes it harder to find insurance too, because the value of premiums paid are easily outweighed by a couple of expensive orthopaedic surgeries.
Only a few dog breeds in the UK are responsible for the majority of dog attack pet fatalities this year.
What happens when this concern is raised? Accusations of dog genocide.
The hundreds of pets killed per year by American Bullies don't matter to these dog bite researchers.
The Calgary model, currently being pushed by naïve dog activist groups like
@dontbanlicence
, with little knowledge of the effects of this model that refuses to enforce a pit bull ban.
This dog who bit a child needs three different medications just to allow for a veterinary examination.
But "he loves car rides" so it's ok?!?
If you adopt this dog, say goodbye to ever having friends or family coming over to visit.
@RSPCA_official
Maybe he hasn't had any interest because you use the euphemism "active" any time a dog can't live with children or other pets?
Come on, let's be honest. It's noble you want to adopt out these dogs but there's a reason they have trouble with adoptions, and that can't be ignored.
This poor man's family. He *died* and the focus from bully apologists is on blaming the media for reporting on it.
"Here we go again whatever next our poor dogs will never be left alone by the media"
Get ready for more XL Bully trolls!
There is a Monday debate (23 November) for petitions related to dangerous dog laws in the UK.
Expect to see a rise in trolling and unhinged responses from both dog attack apologists and useful idiots.
Yet another out of control dog chases a group of 20 children, attacking one.
This is the price society pays for entitled XL Bully fanatics to own their preferred breed of dog.
One of their mistakes leads to public terror and the dog attack of a child.
@58mbr
Exactly what happened with the child here (6 minute mark)
Well trained dogs that played with other dogs. Pulled him from his babysitter's arms and killed him 🥺💔
His father received so much abuse from pit bull owners afterwards, for speaking out 💔
The debate on dangerous dogs is not a scientific debate regarding how dangerous a particular breed of dog may be — the data are very clear, especially the medical literature.
The problem of dangerous dogs is of large charities denying scientific reality for convenience.
Those spouting "no dangerous dogs" and "it's the owner not the dog" are the flat earthers of the dog world.
Worse in fact as their anti scientific rigidity has led to numerous deaths and severe life changing injuries.
They are like the doctors who refused to believe in germ
@58mbr
It really shows how ingrained fighting is in these types of dogs, that despite bull baiting having been illegal for quite some time, they still attempt it if their owner loses control
Thinking about the XL Bully owners that complain about people crossing the street to avoid attacks such as this one, which lead to serious psychological issues
"I don't go on walks with my family for fear of seeing other dogs"
This 11 year old girl sensibly crossed a road to avoid an XL Bully.
Despite this the owner allowed it to launch a savage, unprovoked attack on her, leaving her "bleeding like a tap" with serious permanent scarring not to mention mental scars
@MyLovelyHorseR
Because nothing says "horse rescue" like coming out against restrictions on dogs bred for bloodsports, including bull baiting
You are welcome to rehome all the currently sheltered XL Bullies you wish. I'd simply advise keeping them away from your horses.
Dangerous dog apologist opinions are unconstrained by reality.
It's hard to understand how warped their understanding of basic facts can be without actually seeing it in action.
The amount of cognitive bias is incredible.
People need to recognize that when they own a type of dog bred from hundreds of years of bull baiting and dogfighting, life in the city does not undo genetics.
The XL Bully ban has been quite instructive in its ability to reveal who understands genetics and animal behaviour, vs those who reflexively rush to "protect" a human-created dog breed designed for violent and painful destruction of other animals for sport
XL bully dogs to be banned under new regulations
Ban and euthanise XL Bullies 🤬🤬💔💔💔💔💔
Yes, enforce neuter, muzzle in public and a certificate!
BUT a rescue can’t rehome!!!!! Insane
This country can barely enforce microchipping!!!!
Fiona Squibb (Louth SPCA Inspector)
Incredible to see the UK deciding to ban the American Bully.
It shows how sunlight really is the best disinfectant for disinformation.
The RSPCA and DCC were too willing to manipulate govt discussion by selectively presenting facts. It's time for truth to take the upper hand.
YouGov pollsters reach out to individuals directly.
No wonder the DBMLM team has struggled so much. They conflate unscientific online newspaper polls with professional polling methods.
This is entirely typical for the breeders of these dogs
As much as they claim they're doing it "for the dogs", if they'd really cared they would stop breeding dogs with health problems just for looks
This one has cropped ears as well, an sign of irresponsible ownership
Obligatory viewing for those who want to understand the pit bull lobby - yes, it's real.
They fund scientists to produce papers to "prove" BSL doesn't work, or pit bulls cannot be identified.
The AVMA, Best Friends and others use this in political lobbying and PR campaigns.
This documentary is shocking and shows the extreme denial from owners, and rhetoric about certain breeds being great with children, influencing owners. Two Pitbull's were well trained, socialised dogs who were friendly, until the day they killed a child
Oh look it's that paper written by Animal Farm Foundation (the pit bull advocacy group) and NCRC (owned by AFF) employees.
Honestly pit bull apologists seem to think we don't know who these authors are or haven't read these papers.
Time to look at another bad argument from The Dog Control Coalition.
In their
#EFRA
doc, they cite a study that claims breed was not a factor in 256 dog bite-related fatalities.
Firstly, they only have one reference. Secondly, it was published in 2013!
Worst of all...
@cptmbf
@CJ_liberte
@pursuitofprog
This man was a pit bull advocate. Posted on facebook about "uninformed" people "bullying his breed"
Then his dogs killed his two children and almost killed his wife.
Anyone want an "American Bulldog cross"?
No kids, no other pets, and doesn't like being left alone.
Endorsement from the staff: "[Patch] will likely be housetrained in his new home."
"likely" 😐
Patch arrived at
@RSPCAhx
with a skin condition that caused him to lose the majority of his fur.
The animal care team have been nursing him back to health and he is responding well to his medication. 💙
Find out more about this lovely boy:
I was asked to help with the American Bully ban in the UK because apparently my posts made it clear that I actually read the literature & references.
Pit bull apologists cite tons of papers that are either sub-par or funded by lobbyist groups. Few actually call them out on this.