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@CarlZha
I don’t see why they’d switch to Chinese unless all the students also spoke it. Even at the Chinese U of HK where I did my CS PhD, classes are in English even if just one student needed it.
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@Noahpinion
I’d trust Scott Aaronson’s opinion on the matter: this won’t replicate absent a miracle.
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@GeopoliticalHub
@thisischaniece
Sorry, I don’t understand your theory. How does your finding rule out the possibility that they interacted in a friendly way and then had a disagreement later?
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@BurakkuJon
@mrjeffu
Would you say the same thing about a non Indigenous person winning an American beauty contest? If no, I’d be open-minded to hear your reason.
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@kjoules
@OldChinaBland
According to Wikipedia, a permanent HKID is enough to get into Albania. No passport needed.
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@Blueelectron4
@Noahpinion
I suspect that many people (not necessarily
@alitlstrawberry
) do not want to prosper, because to do so would in some sense validate a world they see as evil.
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@RebeccaYChan
@zhao_dashuai
Whether or not Chinese are always welcomed to integrate by every individual, the fact is that many (probably most) US residents welcome them and they do integrate often very successfully.
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@CatfishFishy
@MTorgin
@Eric_Sr_
@CryptoBullrog
@ChrisBlec
@chainlink
Having a degree doesn’t make one wise, responsible, diligent, unafraid to question others on a team, or immune to naively trusting some set of three individuals.
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@vickywong710
This seems regressive. Is the point that Europeans shouldn’t enjoy themselves or that their singing and dancing is inherently cringeworthy? Or that Europeans have to apologise for what other Europeans do? Each of these is regressive. Swap the race in the tweet to see my point.
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I visited this “last village” in SG in December. Quite a contrast with HK which has numerous (and much more rural) villages.
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@BBCLeisha
@hurtingbombz
There are still plenty of fake monks around. I always ask them friendly questions in Cantonese but they never reply.
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Glad to see
@0xPolygon
has some documentation on their multisigs, which I was looking for after reading
@ChrisBlec
's defi watch. But from what I see in gnosis, it looks like the thresholds are reported wrong. The 5/8 is actually 5/9 and the 2/5 is 2/7.
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@tripperhead
Wow, 4.07 trillion visitors is quite impressive. The average person in the world thus took 508 trips to HK in August.
(Sorry, teasing the wording here)
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@SealedGain
@MarioNawfal
This is a person speaking, not a country. And ideas, if good, should be welcomed regardless of their source.
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@jeremyehaywood
@webbhk
We should pool funds to hire a private jet to take Hk residents around the world into HK. I’ve been trying to return since November, but still only got as close as Thailand, and I am now booked on one of the SG flights Feb 28 that should be cancelled now.
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@RockStar_1968
@accusedarsonist
@notcapnamerica
Is this misconception prevalent because people have seen TV shows ask people to sign a release (which I assume is needed if the filming is for commercial use)?
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@Maytechummia
How long does it take for foreigners with no Mandarin to learn it to the level that you can be employed as, say, a relationship manager at a bank working with Mainland clients?
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@gonglei89
@ObinnaOkpolu
I agree a mismatch exists. Despite it, I don’t think shooting down all criticism of Gemini (not necessarily your intent) is useful bc that boils down to the argument that past wrongs justify new wrongs. Many smart people seem to believe this; its logical ends concern me.
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@tomgrundy
I used to punch down on these things too, and may have been smug that I’ve spent ~30x longer in the city than the author. But I think this is done from a sense of insecurity about still not having fully integrated. I say: let’s welcome interest in HK. And the advice wasn’t awful.
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@thisischaniece
How does the fact that they got along well earlier imply that they engineered the entire negative interaction?
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@CurtExplores
@jaapgrolleman
As far as I can tell, it only has a Chinese website for now, so they probably aren’t losing much business due to that bizarre English name.
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@donweinland
When I saw those crowdfunding efforts my second or third thought was that this would happen.
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@j_rehm
Each time, I explain to them in slow and child-like Cantonese that my Chinese isn’t very good but if we diligently work together then we will be able to communicate. Then they hang up.
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@thesongfromhell
@MichelleDixy
@BBCNews
How is this a problem? If you don’t like it, then don’t eat it.
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@thatshirleylee
I’ve found the opposite to be true. Example: I ask for yat1 wun2 faahn6 at a restaurant and I’m misunderstood until I switch to yat1 go3 faahn6
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@AlimightSky
@ChloecLoNews
@tomgrundy
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. In my experience people say lei hou very often. Sometimes a very “hi lei hou” where the hi is English. I think I’ve been told lei hou perhaps 5 times today already, along with 5 instances of zou san as a greeting.
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@OldChinaBland
I’ve never met a European who attained the Cantonese level of: can joke and banter in a culturally appropriate way in a noisy environment and be understood (and understand the replies). Have you gotten there?
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@stoutyhk
This suggestively worded tweet isn’t helpful. Stewart has cancelled his concerts in other regional cities on the same tour.
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@ludvonrand
@micsolana
I suspect (*this is a guess*) that a partial rebuttal from Gemini would be that Europeans don’t have ethnicity. When pressed, they’d admit that Europeans do, but claim that that ethnicity doesn’t have the same essence as other ethnicities, justifying different treatment.
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@Noahpinion
I speak Cantonese in all of China, because I speak no Mandarin and figure it’s more at home than English.
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@skyhawkmatthew
@tripperhead
@kjoules
Can someone pls give the short answer as to why this line exists? Is it mandatory testing for close contacts of positive cases?
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@lepoohsticks
@NotoriousPHD_
@FY4Chan
@mbrookerhk
It is unlikely we’ll ever know if politics played a role. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some; the absent handshake is unexplained by injury. Still, it seems most likely that injury was the primary driver. Overreactions have created a sad disincentive for future events.
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@Ken04989139
@Lumpenpancakes
@przidnt1
@OopsGuess
@taaijoeng
@VacksceneGaming
@Kai_Wong_CN
@olalatech1
@Angelina1828
Looks like we agree on my point then. Hopefully you can understand why there is confusion about CNY and LNY and also know that some foreigners may mean well and take their cues from this Chinese money and not mean anything else by their use of LNY.
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@ChrisBlec
Why was the blacklist idea even initially seen as workable in light of the triviality of creating new addresses?
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@nikstankovic_
@al_shaarabi
Strictly speaking, you are assuming that she isn’t a Japanese citizen. She probably isn’t, but I think it’s most sporting to acknowledge when assumptions are being made. Of course, the broader debate about foreigners in politics is relevant regardless of this one person’s status.
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@Kanthan2030
I think reactions seem coordinated because word can spread quickly with the use of the internet and because his death is something that occurred at a fixed moment in time.
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@fchow8888
@Ken04989139
@Lee_Cobaj
Your original wording was slightly different and suggested that you disapprove of her making a home here. But I’m willing to accept that you were just inviting an explanation if you can accept it’s possible she loves China and thus possible you’d approve of her making a home here
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@MarketaMoore
I had a fortunate opportunity to visit Tai A Chau last weekend. Apparently there used to be a population of wild cows out there that lived alongside the Vietnamese before finding their way onto dinner plates.
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@OuttathisSolar
@taaijoeng
@Ken04989139
@przidnt1
@VacksceneGaming
@Kai_Wong_CN
@olalatech1
@OopsGuess
@Angelina1828
Thanks, I think I have it now and look forward to using my new vocabulary!
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@OldChinaBland
This issue is lose-lose for foreigners. Being apolitical and not being so both bring scorn.
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@GarrettPetersen
I know yours is a common viewpoint, but I disagree. I think long variable names obscure the structure of an equation. I’d rather quickly see the structure and then look up the variables again if needed.
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@hkfp
One of these baby boom butterflies landed on my drone in-flight before taking off again and getting shredded by the blades.
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@ObinnaOkpolu
@gonglei89
I agree that hysterics aren’t productive or justified. I’d argue that discrimination against Europeans shouldn’t be done unless it has been carefully reasoned and judged to be necessary. I don’t think the Gemini way of discrimination was well-reasoned.
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@gonglei89
@ObinnaOkpolu
I’m not fussed about the AI itself, but instead interested in the societal issues that have been re-illuminated by its failures. If this was just about the AI, then I expect that our tweets (including yours at the start of the thread) wouldn’t exist.
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@mimochicel
@TheGrouchHK
@thatshirleylee
I don’t get this at all. I’m a European living on the island and have been studying Cantonese for years and still struggle with communication often even when using English and/or Cantonese. English is rare and my Cantonese fails for topics like home repair.
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@jamiewildehk
@RazvenHK
Was scared to do this, but I just totaled up the cost of my return from US (in quarantine now). For flights to Thailand, 2 week stay there (due to flight ban), HK quarantine, covid tests, mandatory insurance…40k. And that assumes all my refunds for cancelled flights come thru.
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@aarnavg17
@JRUrbaneNetwork
Usually cancellation requires a double-click, avoiding the problem
@aarnavg17
mentioned.
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Great article from
@SuccinctJT
with plenty of opportunities to feel both smug or out-of-the-loop.
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@yaujosef
@NotoriousPHD_
@FY4Chan
@mbrookerhk
I agree that the phenomenon exists, but I don’t really know how to build trust without dialogue (there is a chicken and egg problem) or how to have dialogue without asking questions. I hope to build trust that is robust even in the face of differences in opinion.
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@BurakkuJon
@mrjeffu
Does this mean that past European genocide in North America justifies having ethnic Europeans win beauty contests in the US? That seems odd.
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@GaiaXFakten
@MsMelChen
True, but I still like Andy’s response because it indirectly highlights the absurdity of it all. (And we all know that he doesn’t think he actually needed to give such permission.)
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@fchow8888
@Ken04989139
@Lee_Cobaj
Neither wording claims that you disapprove of her making a home here. But many would interpret it that way. But if we agree that we don’t know her state of mind and it’s possible she loves China and is home here then we’re on the same page.
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Took this at the Chungking Mansions. Look it up on Wikipedia -- it's a pretty interesting place.
http://t.co/ULK2MpfVDE
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@VictorWardric
@stopthatgirl7
@emptypunditry
@mrjeffu
Which countries are branded in this way and how did this branding happen?
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@thatshirleylee
What would be amazing is a post about navigating the new rules to get a closed frontier area permit and visit 中英街
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@MaitreyaBhakal
@dheeraj_one
If only race mattered, then non-white Americans would be called immigrants, but they are also called expats sometimes (as in this article).
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@CatfishFishy
@MTorgin
@Eric_Sr_
@CryptoBullrog
@ChrisBlec
@chainlink
One can imagine a protocol that is beautifully designed with the exception of one simple unfortunate aspect that renders it completely insecure. It would then be possible to comment on this protocol without understanding all of it.
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@tripperhead
Super useful. Especially in my case; I discovered through this sheet than my plan E (flying scoot) is unworkable. On to pinning hopes on plans F and G and to devising a plan H as backup.
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@yaujosef
@vickywong710
Thanks for noticing. It bothers me when smart ppl do not examine their own values to consider any contradictions. I will be dismissed as an intellectually dishonest troll despite just asking for the opposite.
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@cronokirby
I think of this in terms of climbing stairs. Many people bounce up and down more than necessary, causing them to almost do the work of climbing each stair twice.
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@HistorianZhang
Not to mention most restaurants are cash only. People overseas are always surprised to hear how I primarily operate with cash.
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@KeaweWong
@Kanthan2030
Have you ever tested your hypothesis? I have and don’t get bad reactions at all.
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@aarnavg17
@JRUrbaneNetwork
It’s not rare in HK. My building’s elevators have this feature and I’ve seen it elsewhere.
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@gonglei89
Isn’t it obvious to anyone serious that moral legitimacy is complex and that oppression has multiple sources?
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@caotiange123321
@chinIzumi
@heguisen
The ones that speak Cantonese are Cantonese speakers. The ones that speak Mandarin are Mandarin speakers. The ones that speak both are Cantonese and Mandarin speakers.
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@SLim456789
Seems your logic is 1) I am personally responsible for anything bad any European does and 2) no one can criticise an act of someone of another race unless the race of the criticising party is perfect. Both points absurd and would mean interracial dialogue is impossible.
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@yaujosef
@SteveFore2
@OldChinaBland
Further to (2): it’s unpleasant to mock people for what they wear and emphasise their race with no context.
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@yaujosef
@undodilligence
The meme potential here is huge. And the memes even give a little nugget of historical information!
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@notXiangyu
Low quality observation from
@_JakubJanda
: anecdotal. Low quality reply from
@notXiangyu
: anecdotal.
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@yaujosef
@SteveFore2
@OldChinaBland
I feel you but have quibbles. 1: They may be oblivious but tourists needn’t be experts & the hat isn’t directly a local sensitivity. 2: The low status tourism point is more a statement about them than of HK. I feel we’re mocking their simplicity, but they may be trying to learn.
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@_julianschiavo
@Phillip_In_HK
@tripperhead
@HKAOA
@cathaypacific
United service is much worse than Cathay though
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@OopsGuess
@nikstankovic_
@VacksceneGaming
@Angelina1828
@HohoChan657
@taaijoeng
@Ken04989139
@przidnt1
@Kai_Wong_CN
@olalatech1
I am standing up for basic facts. The original motivation was to explain that some foreigners may say LNY not out of disrespect to China but because they may have taken cues from Chinese sources (like the HKD money) that use LNY.
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@arminius1921
@USAinHKMacau
I’ve heard anti-immigration arguments before, but usually diplomats are understood to be a normal part of the relationship between countries. Do you prefer that there be no diplomats in China?
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@Mariusj001
@mbrookerhk
Once when on a UK - US flight, there was an older French couple next to me who seriously struggled with English. A flight attendant was very rude, even whispering to me about them. When we landed, I used google translate to tell them I was sorry that she had been rude, and…
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@lepoohsticks
@NotoriousPHD_
@FY4Chan
@mbrookerhk
I’ve heard this too; plausible. I don’t know the etiquette of this but someone who does could probably better interpret. Getting into Messi’s head is not likely to happen. As when one perceives a possible sleight from someone else, best to move on most of the time.
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Analogy between knots and Turing machines: with an upper bound on the nth Busy Beaver # you can solve the halting problem for “size n” TMs. W/ an upper bound on the # of Reidemeister moves to transition between diagrams of “size n” knots, you can solve the knot equiv problem.
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@FY4Chan
That’s right. And I don’t think the video is worth much time. I eventually skipped through it, so it’s possible (unlikely) that I missed something of interest.
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