Adam Short
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I want somebody somewhere to show me ONE megachurch that isn’t rife with corruption, criminal clergy abuse, and mafia-like practices! Who can find one?
#churchtoo
#robertmorris
#sbctoo
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#tonyevans
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@Darcy4CO
This is terrible. Have you considered contacting an attorney? Or, maybe discontinuing your membership with that gym? I wish you well in your fight and hope you win.
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What is the biblical basis for a pastor to have a net worth in the millions of $, due to profiting from peddling the “gospel”, but worse, on the backs of church members’ tithes, especially when members are in financial hardship?
#RobertMorris
#GatewayChurch
#ihopkc
#Bethel
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Even though it seems the
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
scandal has died down, I haven’t forgotten about it. I will keep talking about it. It ain’t over.
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I want to know if there are any pastors or church leaders left who would do their ministry for no charge, fee, payment, honorarium, bribe, or God knows what else. I’m so jaded.
#ihopkc
#churchtoo
#MikeBickle
#bethelredding
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Reposting the Bickle KC Star article via Google Drive for anybody having trouble accessing it:
#ihopkc
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@Mike_Hixenbaugh
More obfuscation & cover up. This is undoubtedly at the advice of the PR attorneys. Scrub, scrub, scrub. Use bleach if you have to. Except the internet doesn’t forget.
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I’m an accountant. For
#ihopkc
to be running a net loss of $500K/mo for 6 mo means they burned $3m in cash reserves in excess of revenue since Oct. They must have multiple millions still in reserve b/c they don’t have a closing date nailed down. Hmm, I’m skeptical.
#mikebickle
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I admire you
#ihopkc
staff who’ve gone public the last few days about your journey in extricating from the toxicity & leaving. I feel your pain. It must be excruciating but yet it’s so courageous. Your hearts for the mission the Lord gave you is incredible. /1
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To all the pastors out there who truly live the gospel, care for your sheep, & never sexually or spiritually abused anybody, & can honest-to-God lay your head on the pillow at night and sleep in true peace, thank you. Keep fighting the good fight.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
#churchtoo
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I woke up in the middle of the night distraught over the latest round hitting the fan at
#ihopkc
and don’t even know what to do with all this.
#MikeBickle
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Is it just me or does it seem like
#ihopkc
&
#mikebickle
scandal is just blowing over and fizzling out with no real change & accountability? I thought by now there would’ve been charges & lawsuits filed.
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@kvministries
What must stop first is leaders in the body of Christ not taking a righteous stand to defend, protect & advocate for the women, daughters, and girls who are being abused by clergy. When will this happen? The silence is deafening!
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It’s time for big leaders in the body of Christ to go public & stand w/abuse victims of
#ihopkc
&
#MikeBickle
. Bill Johnson
@kvministries
@dannyleesilk
@thebanning
@randyclarkga
@IamRickJoyner
@che_ahn
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@shawnbolz
Are victims of clergy s*xual abuse spreading negativity, gossip, & conspiracy when they bravely come forward to share how they were harmed BY CHURCH LEADERS?! Should they keep silent and say nothing?! I think we all know the real answers to these questions.
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Is it possible for a narcissist to change/recover/become self-aware and own up to what they’ve done? Has anybody seen this happen in real life? Sincere questions
#ihopkc
#ihopkctoo
#churchtoo
#MikeBickle
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I'm having a very hard time w/this and have a lot of pain in my heart. I just watched most of the sermon. So painful to watch b/c those of us who have been involved in speaking out & advocating for victims aren't doing this for entertainment. /1 🧵
#ihopkc
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Being out of church so long, I’ve met more amazing people (Christians, non, & everything in b/t) the past 3 months w/
#ihopkc
scandal than I have in a decade. It’s been so healing and life-giving to connect w/so many incredible people. Thank y’all & I appreciate you!
#MikeBickle
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I did all 3 yrs at BSSM & was part time staff
@BethelRedding
yrs ago. It’s infuriating that Bethel isn’t addressing this & by not doing so, Bethel is complicit in clergy s*x abuse. If you’re there now, be warned about Bob Hartley.
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
#bethel
I alluded to this in a previous posts, but to make it explicitly clear: My father is not just a grifter but a predator. He is actively using the authority he has garnered as a “prophet” to sexually prey on women.
Bethel leadership knows about this but is doing nothing!
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I’m tired of seeing pictures of men with microphones and speaking on church stages. How about all the men pastors fast microphones for a week (or year) and let the women speak!
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#churchtoo
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Those of us who were steeped in NAR cults were sold a HERETICAL LIE, that we can attain deity status. This is abhorrent. I renounce & disavow this.
#bethel
#ihopkc
#morningstar
. See below video from
@wmbhr
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I’m so angry about this week’s 💩show of Kris V’s statements RE
#MikeBickle
scandal. I left church 13 yrs ago and I never EVER want to go back now. Way to cause even more widespread damage to victims
@BethelRedding
. NOT OK. TRUST=BROKEN. GOD HELP US ALL
#ihopkc
@kvministries
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@lancewallnau
Do you have a public statement condemning the criminal pedophilia perpetrated by
#RobertMorris
? I can’t imagine politics would ever matter more than holding clergy accountable for s*xual abuse of a child.
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@alterofinquiry
As an accountant, this is one of the many reasons why a full forensic and tax audit is needed. It’s nearly impossible to have certainty on these questions without an audit and/or compelled discovery in a civil suit.
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1/4 There is a nameless, faceless force seeking to keep many in the body of Christ from speaking up about injustices in the Church: spiritual abuse, sexual abuse, toxic control, damaging teachings, etc. I will not be silent. I was silent for 13 years after severe spiritual abuse.
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A must read from my wife, a Trauma Recovery Coach, RE the
@seanfeucht
comments on trauma & pain
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#churchtoo
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With the news that broke tonight, now is the point where
#ihopkc
has transitioned from rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic to sticking their pinky fingers in holes the size of cars hoping it’ll hold back the water.
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Let’s all say it together. Mega church pastors and leaders DON’T EVER speak up to support abuse victims. And they sure don’t hold their fellow mega church leaders accountable. I have no hope left in church leaders.
#robertmorris
#gatewaychurch
So a megachurch evangelical pastor has been credibly accused of child sexual abuse and we’re still waiting for the voices of compassion for the victim and outrage for the offender from other evangelical leadership. Their silence (which is not generally one of their better known
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Cindy Clemishire is so brave. Please take a few moments to read her letter below and consider how you can help move the needle to hold
#RobertMorris
and any other
#GatewayChurch
leaders accountable who have abused children (or adults too).
#churchtoo
#sbctoo
UPDATE: here is a letter from Cindy Clemishire, the now 54-year-old woman, who came forward alleging that Pastor Robert Morris sexually abused her when she was 12-years-old.
In the letter, she wrote that she contacted Gateway Church in 2005. She also wrote that she believes she
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Here’s a tour of the
#RobertMorris
$3m mansion + audio clip of him saying @ 4:52, “If you don’t tithe, that’s an open door to demons.” Where did the $ come from to build the mansion? Tithes? Book deals? Thx to
@DEI_Champion
for finding this
#GatewayChurch
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@jjfThompson
My great-great grandfather walked barefoot 400 miles from Appomattox Courthouse VA back home to NC in 1865 and then lived until 1932! Their resilience was unfathomable.
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After watching the clip, I can't take another sanitized, spiritual-bypassing, non-explanation for why we are where we are, literally ground 0 for thousands of people who've been left for dead. Leaders, y'all did this to people. Your credibility is 0.
#churchtoo
#robertmorris
"Whenever you put a man on a throne - you're going to have problems with the Kingdom."
This week, I am releasing an episode about Gateway Church and more so about what I am encouraging the church to pursue.
Releasing Wednesday 10 am CT.
#GatewayChurch
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@seanfeucht
Please pause the prayer movement messaging and respond to the actual matter at hand which is the criminal sexual exploitation and molestation of an underaged, minor child, by Mike Bickle.
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I had the honor of being interviewed by John Collins discussing
#ihopkc
#bethel
#mikebickle
, deconstruction, NAR, church scandal, spiritual abuse, etc., trying to make sense of it. Would love to hear your thoughts!
@wmbhr
👇
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@KellyClinger
My wife and I had a very similar experience but I still can't bear the thought of going to church even now and it's been 13 years.
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These so-called shepherds took, took, & took more. They pillaged us. I want back what was taken from me too. How dare you use your platform
@LisaBevere
to harm the very people who care about the abused! I 2nd the call for u to donate your fee to survivors. Your words are abusive
"God is dealing with them....the truth is, they're not my servants."
Aren't you a shepherd, Lisa? What kind of Shepherd doesn't act protect the sheep? Should the flock be silent while they are slaughtered? Should victims live as the walking wounded? Should we let our brothers
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@SometimesPDX
She appears to care more about promoting her book than about women and children who’ve been s*xually abused by clergy. She’s unserious.
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“Predators don't stop. They have to be STOPPED.” —Susan Claridge, sister of Mike Bickle victim Tammy Woods.
#ihopkc
#ihopkctoo
#churchtoo
#mikebickle
#sbctoo
He told a child to "own" the abuse and she did for 43 years in silence. She covered in love b/c she was manipulated to believe that she was the only one...that it stopped with her. But it didn't - he didn't stop. Predators don't stop. They have to be STOPPED.
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
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@RightGhost
These are all critical questions that must be answered and conducted by a true 3rd-party independent investigation.
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Why do you charge money for the gospel? Would you still do these conferences if you weren’t paid money?
#bethelredding
@TheJesusImage
@BethelRedding
@francischanfans
#ihopkc
Jesus is moving on the West Coast, calling a generation to His heart.
We believe the Lord is ready to pour Himself out in California.
Join us for Jesus '24, happening June 6-8th in Orange County, CA.
Register today:
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as you try to figure out what’s next for you and your families. Your voices matter and are bringing healing to people. You are the true leaders who are leading by example in humility & transparency. Thank you.
@ryankondo
@AaronBack22
@PabloPerezLive
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This is inequitable: Why do churches need 2 be intermediary b/t donors & recipients of help? In Acts, believers gave gifts to each other directly & nobody had any need among them. Now, churches collect the $, keep most for themselves & the needy aren’t helped.
#churchtoo
#ihopkc
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If you’re on the fence about whether or not to donate to
#ihopkc
or its new variant spin-off, save your $ and repurpose it elsewhere like helping ex-staff trying to get on their feet. Turn OFF the cash flow faucet! No 💰= no power & no more victims!
#MikeBickle
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I learned today from The Message Up Church YT channel that the word "revival" doesn't appear in the English Bible. It's mind-blowing how much focus there's been on a word that doesn't even biblically exist.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#bethelredding
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I want to say thank you & give a huge shout out to the WOMEN survivors & advocates who’ve been on the front lines of holding church leaders accountable for the clergy abuse! Y’all are truly incredible, & we are all better because of who you are!
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#churchtoo
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I literally feel a sick nausea in my stomach when I read his post. Particularly his use of the word “careful.” Reminds me of the abusive pastor I worked under in Africa who operated in sorcery.
Hi
@DrMichaelLBrown
why did you delete this tweet? Was this a threat? A curse? If you were wrong you should just admit it. Don’t erase it. Also why not trust in God to take care of the supposed critics ?
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When will this stop? $6K for a 2 day “prophetic” business executive church event?!? You’ve got to be kidding me. I’m a biz owner for 10 yrs now and paid good $ to actual biz coaches and their 2 day 1-on-1 event wasn’t even as expensive as this!
#bethelredding
#kvministries
New Apostolic Deconstruction (NAD) where I revisit past concerns dismissed as pride or misunderstanding. It's clear now that what felt off is truly off - like a summit where 50 people pay $6000 for prophecy. How is this not Simony?
#krisvalloton
#nar
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@EricVolz
This is a ridiculous response seeking to cover everybody’s a$$. That’s why yall should’ve had a real investigation to begin with and you would’ve been made aware of this abuse months ago.
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This isn't about reconciliation between 2 believers. It's about abject sexual abuse. There is a MAJOR difference between struggling w/temptation and criminal pedophilia. I was at Bethel/BSSM 4 yrs & it's very hard because I hear Kris's heart but it's clear to me he's missing /2
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4/4 I’m here to tell you this isn’t going away until justice rolls like a mighty stream. Speak up, use your voice, and say your piece in the name of Jesus!
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
#ihopkctoo
#churchtoo
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I’ll answer your question with a question:
Why have so many “Christian” leaders abusively preyed upon so many Christians? Answer that one and you’ll have your answer.
#ihopkc
#ihopkctoo
#MikeBickle
Why have so many Christians fallen prey to the deconstruction movement?
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What’s the latest with the
#ihopkc
/
#MikeBickle
situation? Seems we’re at another lull with no public progress. Anybody have any updates that can be shared?
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I love Cory, but I think he may be blind to the harm & toxicity celebrity Christianity caused. Money, fame, & power must be one hell of a drug. Deep down I hoped he'd take a stand for victims & against what Mike did. Maybe he did but I haven’t seen it if so.
#ihopkc
#churchtoo
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Your care for your fellow friends/staff still there is so moving. Your bravery in sharing your raw process in it all is incredible. You are not alone, and many of us are looking on with compassion as you walk thru this /2
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@WillCab8
I'm having a very hard time with this and have a lot of pain in my heart. I just watched most of the sermon. So painful to watch because those of us who have been involved in speaking out & advocating for victims aren't doing this for entertainment. /1
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This is a disaster waiting to happen when executors of the donors’ estates realize they have to battle this out in probate court. It would be wise for them to revise their wills now to remove
#ihopkc
as beneficiary before it’s too late.
#MikeBickle
A day after
@IHOPKC
email stated it will be "closing for good,” a donation appeal from ministry asked for gifts of "stock, IRAs & real estate."
IHOPKC ldrs denied closure in media stmnt—while press release stated IHOPKC will "wind down" multiple ministries
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@jessie_thinker
@benpanders0n
THIS description of how Dave treated people IS textbook spiritual abuse.
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Imagine the implications of if MB is restored to ministry soon then the next round of abuse comes out after that. It will be reliving the past 5 months all over again a 2nd time. I don’t even know how to process that. Short circuited & overloaded just considering it.
#mikebickle
@abele_amy95291
Whatever information is being held back has to find a way to come to light. I don't suggest having victims outed before they are ready, but the current process might not be on the same timeline as operation restore predator
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@realprophetguy
Wow this is incredible. This is what we’ve needed for months is big leaders coming forward and confronting this head on and speaking to the thousands of wounded, disillusioned, abused believers who are trying to figure out which end is up.
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This reminds me of Bill Clinton’s denial: “I did not have s*xual relations with that woman.”
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
“I want to say this, uh…
I want to say this in humility…
I have never, ever, one time, looked at an immoral picture.
On the internet.
Ever!
Once.
Have I looked at internet pornography.
Not one time, not for one second.”
- Mike Bickle
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#churchtoo
#cult
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@DrMichaelLBrown
@NathanBroo33288
Why is posting opinions online unhelpful? Are your opinions unhelpful?
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This right here. Joel has been confronting this garbage from before day 1. Keep it up!
#ihopkc
#ihopkctoo
#MikeBickle
#churchtoo
1/ Just before I spoke at the last IHOPKC School of Messengers, I sat down with Stuart Greaves on the back patio. It was just before the story broke publicly about Mike Bickle. The purpose of the meeting was to simply review my discussion for the weekend.
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@Joel7Richardson
@EricVolz
@ihopkc
Of course it’s not over. It’s only the beginning. Whatever
#ihopkc
or Volz says, believe the opposite.
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It happened 2,000 yrs ago & is happening now. The operative Greek word translated “dead” (NLT) is they “cauterized” or “burnerized” their consciences. Scary stuff. 1 Tim 4:1-2.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
#ihopkctoo
#churchtoo
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@judylthomas
I echo many others to say thank you for literally being an instrument of God to bring truth and healing. Thank you for covering this story.
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and who was deeply invested in your ministry & BSSM for so many years. Please search your heart about this. I love Mike Bickle too, which is why I/we are pleading w/him publicly because we fear for his soul. /4
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@Jedidiahhartley
Jedediah thank u so very much for sharing this. I’m so sorry you’re in this position & can’t imagine the pain. This means a lot to me b/c your dad “read my mail” 20 yrs ago @ his house & this now gives me resolution to know it wasn’t real prophecy. This ties up a loose end 4 me.
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@ThouArtTheMan
@watchkeep
@wartwatch
For God’s sake, why do so many church people think that if there was no intercourse, then all of a sudden the clergy s*exual abuser is good to go! Y’all are out of your frickin mind! What a crock
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Thank you
@jandenlow
. This is incredible. This is what we’ve needed for months is big leaders coming forward and confronting
@mikebickle
head on and speaking to the thousands of wounded, disillusioned, abused believers who are trying to figure out which end is up.
#ihopkc
Here’s what it looks like when a leader clearly addresses a situation like the one IHOPKC is facing now.
Why didn’t take so long? Why haven’t the leaders closest to Mike spoken up?
Thank you Johnny & Elizabeth Enlow, for addressing this and fully acknowledging the weight of
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1 Cor 5:9-13 on how to handle people who claim to be believers yet indulge in sexual sin, greed, abuse, drunkenness, & cheating: Don’t eat w/them, JUDGE & REMOVE them. To all ldrs telling us not to judge, you are teaching falsehood, aiding, & abetting perversion.
#RobertMorris
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Thank you
@jedediahhartley
for continuing to share about this. This hits like a ton of bricks.
#ihopkc
#BETHEL
#MikeBickle
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Who’s Mike’s savior? Himself or Jesus? Sounds like he’s his own savior if he had to push delete every time. Is that all the gospel is? Push delete? What an affront to the Cross of Christ.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#falsegospel
1/Reflecting on my theological journey, the notion of 'pressing delete' from my IHOP days resonates.
But now I see its danger: hidden sin grows. Forgiveness is free, but reconciliation requires community.
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@jessetaitt
I’m so troubled. I’m all out of sorts that we didn’t see it. How did we miss it? How did we not discern it.
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Silence was all it took for the Holocaust to happen. Silence is all it takes for clergy s*x abuse to continue to happen. I will not be silent.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
#churchtoo
#sbctoo
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2/4 Not any more. These JDs and Tammy Woods have given me courage. Y’all truly are my heroes. I will use my voice to speak truth and call out injustice. What if Luther had kept silent in the face of heresy and didn’t nail his 95 Theses to the door of the Church at Wittenberg? /2
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@THESTABLEMEN
I’ll say it before & I’ll say it again. I’m an accountant & happy to volunteer my time/expertise here to look into this. Already spent a good bit of time several wks ago looking at real estate deeds, 990s, assignments, mortgages, etc. but without
#ihopkc
opening the books /1
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I needed this today. I found this note in my lunch. I have the best wife ever.
#marriage
#selfcarematters
#selfcare
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Many of us served under your ministries for years. Where are your voices as
#ihopkc
melts down? There’s now an impasse between the new leadership and the AG. The world is watching, people are hurting, and your silence is deafening. /2
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Can we all at least agree on this please? Who can possibly object to pausing the prayer movement while we focus on protecting children from exploitation, grooming, & molestation? I think the ���prayer movement” can be shelved. There are bigger fish to fry.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
@seanfeucht
Please pause the prayer movement messaging and respond to the actual matter at hand which is the criminal sexual exploitation and molestation of an underaged, minor child, by Mike Bickle.
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3/4 Would we have had reformation? Probably not. Toxic church leaders want us to be silent so they can keep their control, power, money, & kingdoms. But a sea of people are waking up. Some of us have been awake for awhile, others are just seeing the light. More will soon see it.
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Here are the speakers & sponsors of the upcoming
#GatewayChurch
conference who are contributing to the machine that has s*xually abused, settled lawsuits, & covered up. It's time for these speakers & sponsors to withdraw!
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@jburn
There is so much conflation of slander w/accountability. This is one of the primary reasons that abuse continues to be perpetrated in churches. Slander is speaking misrepresentation or rumors about a person. But truth spoken about a person is not slander, it's accountability.
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He is literally BEATING and WHIPPING people with his nasty tongue.
#ihopkc
#MikeBickle
#ihopkctoo
#churchtoo
"The delusional martyr"
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
I'm reading this article and wondering if some men are exploiting the return of Christ for their own personal 'mothership delusions'...'chariots'...or whatever 🤔
"Bernstein said she considers a delusional cult leader the most
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the forest for the trees. You can love Mike Bickle & still be on the right side of this & stand w/victims. What is the answer Kris? Stay silent? I love you Kris & always will but I plead w/u to reconsider your stance. This is from somebody who deeply respects you and loves you /3
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@starcazm
Does God always speak in King James English? And did anybody count how many times did he say “saith the Lordah”?
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This makes me cringe. We millennials (myself included) are proud to tell people we have therapists. I have a therapist and see him regularly. No shame.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#churchtoo
#ihopkctoo
Sam Storms on John Wimber and him taking Mike Bickle to counseling.
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
#churchtoo
#cult
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@AaronBack22
@bennettisaac
@ihopkc
This is spiritual abuse, & I’m sorry they did this to you. It’s a MIS-use of their spiritual authority that harmed you by calling into question your own relationship with Jesus & shaming to any who believes or acts differently than they prescribe. It’s very harmful & wrong. /1
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@ManBitesDog6
My point is in think they’re not telling the full financial story. I think they have significant cash reserves still, a cash runway. Otherwise they would’ve set a formal closure date much sooner rather than leaving it open ended.
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