Bob Doto
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Author of *A System for Writing* 📝 Capture Thoughts 🕸 Make Connections 🐎 Think Wildly 💻 Write Constantly
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🎉 A System for Writing is LIVE 🎉 Both Print & Kindle editions are ready for those sweet sweet purchases. Thank you to everyone who's been supporting this 1.5-years-in-the-making project. Feeling really grateful right now. Can't wait for you to read it.
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*A System for Writing* (out June 2024) contains over 60 visual examples of notes, diagrams, and workflows.
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A book is never truly finished. Last minute edits on the proof before pre-orders go live. Print and ebook editions out Tuesday, July 9th 🤞🏼 insh'allah
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@Duderichy
@seconds_0
I get what yre trying to say here, but Germany borders like 9 countries.
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💜 We are live! ❤️ Ebook pre-orders for **A System for Writing** start today! No pre-order on print, but it and the digital edition will both be out Tuesday, July 9th. So0o0o0o happy with how this came out. 200+ pps of the good stuff. 🤩
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Luhmann's zettelkasten is based on principles and practices, not on objects. 🧵
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Why *A System for Writing* is a trusted source on writing w a zettelkasten:
- Written by a writer, not someone cosplaying as one
- Written by a writer who's also a teacher
- Written by a writer who engages w the zk comm
- Researched 4 yrs / Written 1.5 yrs
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Lunch with the one and only
@n_vanderhoeven
. Topics of discussion:
#zettelkasten
, gate-keeping, pkm,
#buildinginpublic
, writing, outlining, tattoos, dessert, and more
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I wrote A System for Writing for anyone who's ever recommended a ZK book w the caveat:
- but it's really confusing
- but it's horribly written
- but it's way too basic
- but it's only for Obsidian
- but it's only in German
- but it's written by an a-hole
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Try thinking of a zettelkasten as a network of spicy hot takes. You may agree with something, but what you want to capture is the why. Why do you agree with it? Capture what it makes you think of. Same with stuff you disagree with. Those are the things that go into your ZK.
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The language we use to name things affects how we perceive the things we name -->
@EleanorKonik
on rethinking the term "second brain"
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💥 Latest article, "Zettelkasten, Linking Your Thinking, and Nick Milo's Search for Ground" drops tomorrow. Eeeeeeee ... 😃 Keep an eye out 👀
#Zettelkasten
#linkingyourthinking
@NickMilo
@the_LYT_way
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Let's have a chaterino. "Information management" is an infinitely less sexy and yet, infinitely more honest term than "knowledge management." 1/8
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Why we're gonna break 1k sales tomorrow:
- spent 4 years researching, engaging w the zk community every single day
- answered the questions *behind* the questions
- took my time listening to beta readers, writing, editing & laying out a trustworthy book
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One of the reasons why people come out of the woodwork with "the one true way to do zettelkasten" is bc when they find a way that works for them, they think they've found Luhmann's way. But, they haven't. 🧵
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🚨 New 4-Week Zettelkasten Course Starting June 7🚨 Create a dynamic 💥 linked-thought 🕸 knowledge system 🧠 that will continue to expand 💪 morph 🦋 and grow 🧗🏾♀️ for years, providing you with endless digital reams of written material. For more intel 👉🏽
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Seriously. Eff "the collector's fallacy." If it brings you joy to take notes, make them pretty, store them in a vault, and never convert them into anything more than that... If doing so inspires you in some other unforseen way.... Go for it. Be a note hoarder.
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The real issue with "learning in public" is them emphasis placed on "being an expert," which is *everywhere*. It's a capitalist mindset, convincing people that even as beginners they should consider themselves "experts" bc this is how you get exposure aka how u scale. 🧵
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🎉 My latest on the PKM scene: "Zettelkasten, Linking Your Thinking, and Nick Milo's Search for Ground"
@NickMilo
@the_LYT_way
#zettelkasten
#pkm
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"A zettelkasten is a practice of destabilizing someone else's structured thinking. Complex ideas, once skillfully woven into a fabric of singular theses, are unwound from their original focus to yield separate, atomic ideas to be reimagined & repurposed."
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👨🏻🏫 Hooray! An impromptu video showing one of the ways I use my
#zettelkasten
(thru
@obsdmd
) to write essays. This is what I call the "let the zettelkasten decide" approach. Enjoy and share! ❤️
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"Rewrite in your own words" is for 6th graders learning how to handle & leverage language. (EK) "Interpret in light of what you're working on" is for people wanting to never have writer's block. They serve completely diff functions.
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2 sick benes to pre-ordering the ebook version of ✨ A System for Writing ✨ right now:
1. Set it and forget it
2. You'll help make this book more visible and available for others. (I promise. Every pre-order moves the needle.) Don't you wanna help ppl???
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Sound familiar? 1931. Not Luhmann: "If the Zettelkasten... gradually becomes a constantly growing reservoir of foreign and personal ideas, then its careful user will, often enough, & w deep focus...have independent scientific achievement. 👉🏽
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So psyched to be a part of
@NickMilo
's Linking Your Thinking Conference! On Tuesday, May 17 I'll be giving a free talk on all things zettelkasten 🗄 I'll also be attending as many sessions as I can, cuz great stuffs 💥
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@EleanorKonik
convinced me to be "my name" and be more consistent in my online handles. So, that's what I'm doing. Out with the old.
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To be reviewed by your peers is one of the greatest rewards of writing. Feeling honored. Writingslowly's work in this field and beyond has been a consistent joy and inspo for me. So this feel real good 👉🏽 "The only Zettelkasten book you'll ever need."
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A system for writing is not a substitute for effort. You need effort. You need drive. You need the proactive "stuff" that comes w being a writer. What a (good/efficient) system does do is direct yr drive / yr effort into productive channels. A system puts banks along the river.
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Just finished recording a three hour conversation with
@ScottScheper
on all things zettelkasten, pkm, scenes, anarcho-marxism, etc. Scott is a great interviewer / conversation partner, and I'm stoked to share the video when he pubs it. Thanks, Scott!
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Friends don't let their friends let their zettelkasten write for them.
Thank you
@thehighpony
for writing a Zettelkasten book that doesn't read like a book written from a Zettelkasten.
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Respect 🙏🏽 Reading is an investment of time and energy. Ppl in my world usually have lots of books in the line-up. Never take it for granted when one of yours jumps the line.
Weekend reading sorted!
New book by
@thehighpony
(launching today btw 😉)
Looking forward to reading all about Zettelkasten.
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Just because your daily journal isn't "actionable" doesn't mean it's not valuable. Find deeper metrics of value than "use case" and "scalability."
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If you end the sentence "The whole purpose of taking notes is to _________" with only one option, you're definitely wrong, thinking way too narrowly, and possibly in need of some psychedelics.
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@kepano
@nickw84
@futurefabric
Totally same. I was like, "oh in England they say *at* Iceland rather than *in* Iceland?"
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🤯 Registration for "Building a Zettelkasten for Creative Expression" will go live next week💥 Cohort 2 begins Tuesday, Oct 11 and will run for four weeks. Learn yrself The workflow ⚒ The notes 🗒 The methods 🎸 The love ♥ Go from capture 2 creation 🤪 DM me w questions.
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Some of my very best and most rewarding pkm convos are with Nick Milo. This time we'll be having one in public. Come listen in on September 6th while we talk zettelkasten and LYT.
@anthilemoon
Finishing up Tuesday's talks is Bob Doto,
@thehighpony
, who returns to continue the conversation about all things Zettel.
This time he'll cover:
The differences between Zettelkasten and LYT!
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All these "how to take amazing, efficient, highly effective, best, perfect, smart notes" books sound like a *ton* of work requiring a *ton* of time and a *ton* of attention. Like, dont you wanna go outside ever? Underline, highlight, write in the margins in no particular order.
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One thing I absolutely love about the Obsidian community, is the variety of approaches people take AND the way different approaches are accepted. This is "the high pony" to a tee. Strong practices that can coexist with other strong practices. On a "high pony" not a "high horse."
Had an epiphany about why daily notes don't work for me thanks to
@leahthedesigner
's
@the_LYT_way
talk for
Started working on the third thursday article for financial supporters of the Obsidian Roundup.
Thought it might be useful for people to see how I braindump & refine?
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Next 💥"Zettelkasten for Creative Expression" 💥 cohort starting this September! Get to know the workflow ⚒ the notes 🗒 the methods 🎸 and go from capture to creation 🤯 DM me with questions. All the details coming soon.
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In the 4 years I engaged w the zk community on the daily, I think I answered the question "what is a literature note?" 150x (I'm actually trying to find the number). This question spoke to a major deficit in the scene. My goal was to repair these deficits.
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Don't feed the bears. 👉🏽 Seriously, tho. So many bears in the forest where we live. Don't feed them.
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I can't stress it enough: Set up a log system for all your projects, be they solo or collaborative.
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☝🏽We're not rewriting the quote "in our own words." We're interpreting the quote in light of what we're currently working on or think we'd like to work on in the future.
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I am truly and genuinely humbled to have been included in this recent conference. I'm finally getting a chance to sit through some of the talks I missed, and am finding that each one has a-ha's o' plenty. Thanks
@NickMilo
for the opportunity to spread the ZK gospel.
Whoa! Just finished the
#LinkingYourThinkingConference
with over 4,500 this week. Thanks to
@rroudt
@feeei
@beeamp_vicky
@FrancescoD_Ales
@AugustBradley
@thehighpony
@EleanorKonik
@_MikeSchmitz
@MacSparky
@tracyplaces
@n_vanderhoeven
@bianca_oli_per
@leahthedesigner
@EvansNifty
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💜 Thank you
@NickMilo
for another wonderful dialog, and even more so for creating such a dynamic space for dialog to happen. Thanks to the whole
@the_LYT_way
crew and
@bianca_oli_per
for live-tweeting the discussion. Very proud to be a part of your online note-making world. 💜
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Weird how, at least today, people with The Largest Zettelkasten seem to have the most constrained, cagey, rigid, boring ideas. Is it that thing where you go so far out that you end up right where you started? LPT: chillax
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💕 The fact that there's enough people in the
@obsdmd
Discord to get into awesome convos on the intersection of Situationism, PKM, and rebel spirituality is the biggest 😍 warm heart mood 🥰 I can think of right now. You know who you are. 😻
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About 1/2 way thru & so far this is one of the best, honest, frank discussions on pkm I have come across in this scene. Major props to
@NickMilo
for blending humility & stances, as well as Scott for being a genuinely curious interviewer asking all the right questions. Great stuff
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Niklas Luhmann rejected out of town teaching positions for fear that his hard copy / analog zettelkasten might get destroyed in the moving process 🧵
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Most pared down zk workflow:
1. Take in information from a source
2. Capture what seems interesting
3. Decide what of those captures u have further thoughts on & what would be useful for yr writing
4. Make new, atomic notes of what seems useful
5. Link these notes to other notes
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**I value my thoughts enough to write them down** or **I write down my thoughts bc it increases their value**. If a person is going to start working with a zettelkasten, they've gotta believe some version of the above, right? That's the baseline.
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Feel like I shouldn't have to say this, but just because something has been deemed to be meaningless by its creator, does not mean it is without meaning to those who encounter it. Meaning is created in relationship(s): to objects, to community, to personal history, to etc etc etc
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Write a useful book, get it into the Stanford library. 🧠
(Ps, invite me to your college. I will literally talk about this stuff with any and everyone).
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I don't follow a lot of people bc I despise algorithmic feeds. But, I regularly look yall up. 🕵️
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Choosing a note-taking app isn't about knowing what personality type you are. It's about getting deep into the use cases, putting it through the ringer, *engaging with the community.* It's about putting it to the test and seeing if it can handle what you throw at it.
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If you wanna be a good writer, read more good writers than you do good note takers. Like, a lot more.
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Genuinely got teary receiving this email. That said (and I know they would agree), I see books like mine as *additions* to the conversation. It doesn't tell the whole story. Just a big ass chunk of it. Broaden the convos and give new mental frameworks for thinkin' bout stuff.
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Know what's rad? Recording a 35-min "live" workflow video showing how I write with a zettelkasten and *not* having my audio set up. That, my friends, is word. Also,
#nonattachment
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For four years I noticed an ever-increasing deficit in reliable information on zettelkasten, leading to wide-spread confusion. This made my intended goal very clear: Give people a solid, info-rich book they'd feel confident recommending. Straightforward.
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Is there a VR / AR thingy that works with notes, linked thinking, and writing all in one? I've had exactly one VR experience and the whole time just thought how cool it might be to be *inside* my notes and writing files.
@SoftspaceHQ
Prototype05 has landed!
This prototype introduces four major features that push SoftspaceAR from fun toy 🧸 toward real tool 🖌️.
More on this, and how to get Prototype05 running on your
@MetaQuestVR
1, 2, or Pro, below 👀🪡👇.
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Interesting: Luhmann is known for having a zettelkasten and producing an obscene number of texts, while some of the most vocal proponents of his method are known for having a zettelkasten and producing nothing. 😂 The rest of us are bouncing around somewhere in the middle.
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A world where we need to outsource our memory to digital apps and platforms to feel sane is a failed world. GTD, BASB, zettelkasten, etc are bandaids. Fun and exciting, but inadequate fixes for a world gone awry.
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🤯 Annoucementerino! "Building a Zettelkasten for Creative Expression" 💥 cohort 2 begins Tuesday, Oct 11 and will run for four weeks. Sign up deets coming in a few days. The workflow ⚒ The notes 🗒 The methods 🎸 The love ♥ Go from capture 2 creation 🤪 DM me w questions.
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"Cuz that's how the brain works," needs to be stricken from the lexicon of pkm.
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(Q&A) "I just finished reading a book and took tons of notes. Now what???" I looove answering PKM/ZK questions. Here's my answer to the above. Send me yours.
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📢 My latest: Luhmann = more experimental musician than tired architect of ideas.... "Folgezettel is Not an Outline: Luhmann's Playful Appreciation of (Dis)function"
#zettelkasten
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Ways to quickly credit someone without much fuss "h/t @ name" / "after @ name" / "building on @ name". Share freely. Credit happily. Build don't bite. We all make mistakes. No shame.
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Sascha's takes on why situating Niklas Luhmann's zettelkasten in a historical knowledge management context is useful is spot on imo
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Thanks to everyone who's had such kind things to say about the upcoming book. Stoked you're all stoked. Book is set to come out in 1.5 - 2 months. Few technical things still need tweaking, but also, there's one sentence tripping me up! Worked on it for 1.5 hours yesterday 😭
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👉🏽 The 4 weeks (aka 8 sessions) of Building a Zettelkasten for Creativity look like this:
- wk 1 Everything you wanted to know about fleeting and literature notes
- wk 2 The main permanent zettel inside and out
- wk 3 Deep exploration of linking
- wk 4 How it all becomes content
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Read Write Useful Books. Took a lot of notes in the margins. Underlined stuff. Have yet to put these notes in my zettelkasten. Probably won't for a while. Will probably have to reread portions again later. So what.
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I like this
Instead of treating incoming information like a security guard, we should act like an air traffic controller – moving information safely and efficiently through our personal thought space 🛩️🧠
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99.9999% of the time it's information, data, intel. Knowledge comes later.
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Really, we should be obliterating the "become an expert" paradigm, and push hard on the "become a learner" paradigm. Learners learn. Experts (as
@mnmlmnl
has just said) can quickly lose touch with learners and learner issues. (see vs "elders" below)
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People who've read Luhmann's work don't talk about his productivity bc he produced *a lot* of writing. We talk about his productivity bc he produced a lot of *innovative* writing. Big difference.
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What a pleasure it is having access to simple technology that makes backing up and traveling with one's zettelkasten easy breezy.
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@Sakiera_Hudson
Start a blog, preferably on any subject that will have some readers (aka not just a personal thoughts blog). Write regularly (daily). Your readers' level of interest will help you understand if you're being clear or not.
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I've always been a writer first and a note taker (wayyyyy) second. 🤷🏻♂️
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💥It hath arrived!🎉 Registration for ***Building a Zettelkasten for Creative Expression*** is live and well. Course begins Tuesday, October 11 and is capped at 30 people. So, get these pancakes while they're flaming HAWT ouch don't burn yr hands 👉🏽
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A core part of my readership tends to be synthetic thinkers, people who aren't afraid of the strange places where seemingly dissonant ideas meet. Radical, nonlinear, creative thinkers ready to turn their insights into writing. I'm down with these readers.
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A life of reading & wrestling w spiritual texts, having to find how a certain, seemingly unrelated passage informs my day or an issue I may be having, has prepared me for working w a Luhmannian-style zettelkasten & linked thinking in general. We're onto something
@NickMilo
et al!
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Let the principles and practices guide your zettelkasten work. Throw them in a box with your defined workflow issues. Let them hash it out. Shake the box and let them tell you the "kind" of zk *you* should be working with.
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I approve this message.... Also, cuttin a path through our forest.
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📣 TOMORROW: Giving a free, 1-hour, zettelkasten primer for the BASB crew this Sunday at 1pm EST (NYC). All are welcome to come. This will also be a great preview of the larger 4-week course coming up in October.
Meeting ID: 884 4728 3679
Passcode: 616215
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