@edensvale
Jaehaerys' funeral was not even focused on his funeral but on proving that it was propaganda against Rhaenyra and Helaena was forced to be there. That's the whole point of the scene.
Olivia received massive hate for portraying Alicent, Tom is called a rape apologist just for the character he plays. Even the baby who will play Jaehaera faced harassment, with critics targeting even her appearance. Those are some examples of what actors on the tg face. 💀
People now say Aegon doesn't deserve Sunfyre, but he's shown the strongest bond with his dragon in the book. They can't accept it bc they hate Aegon. Which other dragon is remembered as its rider's glory? Yeah, only Sunfyre.
They are meant for each other.
“no hate to Tom but-” are you stupid or what? We don't even know if Aegon knows the existence of his bastards because new news, he's drunk, and it's not once hinted at that Aegon's bastards are fighting to the death in the fighting pits and it's not possible either.
They're actually descended from the people who had this deformed kid (who was called a monster), and you're worried about what an extra finger would do to the family line?
The last dragonrider King to ride a dragon, the only man who survived dragonfire on his own, and the second Targaryen with the strongest dragon-rider bond. Descendant of Hightower Kings and the Conquerors, what better lineage could one have?
So, you're telling me that blacks hiring killers to kill a 6-year-old boy and make his mother choose between him and her 2-year-old brother or else they would rape his 6-year-old sister and kill everyone is a green propaganda against Rhaenyra?
so b&c was just propaganda against rhaenyra and daemon, and we were actually supposed to be rooting for the people who b3headed a 4 yr old little boy, makes a lot of sense really when you really think about it !
@helaenaknife
Just bad writing because we see how Aegon had a sworn guard long before becoming king, but neither Aemond nor Helaena have one (Although Helaena does have a guard in the books) Rhaenyra and Aegon are the only children of Viserys that we see having a protector in the show.
@his_valyrian
I find it very interesting that Aegon, knowing that his son was killed in a score-settling act caused by Aemond, never weaponizes it against Aemond in any way, despite how much Jaehaerys's death affected him
@yenslavender
Her options are not just those, and that is known from the book, especially since they're women, her SONS are at risk of death since they were born and she sells them to die 😭
Isn't it Rhaenyra who directly implies that Laenor is a pedophile? Referring to Laenor's sexual partners as boys. Like, why is it less serious to fuck with boys than with girls?
“He wishes well for her. I don't want to speak for Phia and her approach to Helaena and the relationship with Aegon, but I feel like he sees a purity in Helaena. He doesn't quite understand it, and he's quite happy to not understand it.”
—Tom Glynn-Carney
Did she? Because I remember Aegon won the fight and Moondancer ended up being Sunfyre's food and Baela ended up being Aegon's prisoner, she couldn't handle a crippled dragon with fresh wounds.
@banditsecrets
This is one of the scenes I like the most, along with Baela's. She is prioritizing the survival of her children at the expense of other children, and as a mother, she wouldn't mind placing that burden on another child to achieve it because her children come first.
To face her?? Luke literally ran from the castle while Aegon stood there without making a move while it was his mother who stood in front of him, not him behind her. 😭
Now, like this kid being in a corner far away from the pit fights and them saying he's one of Aegon's bastards, do you take it as Aegon making his bastards fight? That child isn't in the arena and does not even have any marks of injury.
jace being illegitimate still doesn’t matter bc the throne normally passes from the fathers side, but in his case it would pass to him from his mothers side. rhaenyra was absolutely correct, who fathered him doesn’t matter because he’s still targaryen and a targaryen through her
I remember that the reason why the Valyrians bonded themselves to dragons was to gain power and create a new government where they would dominate the other regions, not because they found dragons pretty. And the Targaryens with dragons proved that time and time again.
@daemonscaraxes
Do you realize that this baby was only a month left to be born? These malformations would not disappear when completing the normal pregnancy cycle, she had a HOLE where her heart should have been and she was an 8-month-old fetus 💀
It's really crazy y'all want to ignore that Rhaenyra's death is a payback for the murder of Aegon's family and MOST IMPORTANT, Aegon's KIDS. The way u keep twisting her death says a lot, as if Aegon didn't have more reasons to kill her than ur weak excuse of her being a woman.
it’s craaaaazy how both the book and show explicitly state that the only reason she was usurped/killed was bc she was a woman and u guys still don’t get it somehow 😭 her death only happens literally because she was born a woman
Is the mockery in the room with us? Bc it was Baela who brought her dead mother into the conversation to say that Aemond stole Vhagar and Aemond replied back that her mother is dead and Vhagar has a new rider, where is the mockery? The way y'all have to make up scenarios.
I don't know if you are aware of what the motto of House Targaryen is. But there is a book titled Fire and Blood where Targaryen also quote that motto. Hope that helps, really.
Like when Aegon was originally a year younger than Rhaenyra and they were both children of the same mother and father and yet Rhaenyra wanted to steal his crown. What's your excuse now? 😭
also arianne martell referencing the dance in the books and specifically mentioning that viserys intended rhaenyra to succeed him so maybe do UR research 🤣🤣
I lovee the detail of how the torso part looks like dragon scales. Aegon's armor is being inspired by his book armor which has dragon details. He's such a fool lover boy for Sunfyre and I'm all for it.
Something called power moves? Laenor implies that they can refuse (which Rhaenyra didn't WANT to do), he offered to carry the baby himself (which Rhaenyra out of pride didn't allow), she could have the guards carry her (which she also didn't want to do),
This baby boy was just 4 years old when he died, he woke up scared before feeling a stab wound and having his head cut off as if they were skinning an animal...
@purablon
oh, yes the mother who was afraid that her children would be murdered since she was 18, the one who went crazy when her 10 year old son was almost killed and mutilated, the same one who stood in front of a dragon (of whom she is afraid) to protect her son, weeks later she changed
Which dragon ate the other one? Oh yeah, Sunfyre ate Moondancer. Which dragon was almost dead in the fight and couldn't maintain a simple flight? Ah yes, Sunfyre. Which dragon had the advantages? Oh right, Moondancer, and which dragon lost? Oh right, Moondancer.
Not mentioned much, but the narrative from the sources of the Dance of the Dragons leans more pro-Black than pro-Green. Out of the three narrators of the Dance, two favor the black side more, while only one favors the green side.
thinking about how Team Black actors were harassed or even misgendered for saying TB has great family bond but Tom can say about his r
@pist
character that “he’s just misunderstood in so many ways🥹” and everyone ignore that
How exactly did having one more dragon in a battle against another dragon ruin the plan? They could do 2v1 and Rhaenys would be doomed ,she couldn't focus on Aegon enough bc Vhagar would also be attacking her.
maybe aegon should've listened to alicent when she said do nothing instead of rushing into a fight, he ruined the entire plan coming in like that trying to prove something just to get jacked up quick. 💀
#HouseOfTheDragon
@slaymond_
It could be a reference that it's a war of kin within the same house, the traditional Targaryen banner has three heads, well, the dragon that should have three heads is divided, something like that
@his_valyrian
@coppoladelrey
Aemond is taking everything from Aegon: Jaehaerys, Blackfyre, the dagger, the crown, his friends, his chair, his council ball and he almost took Sunfyre too. He is so sibling code 😭
@iammontekylan
She condemned Daeron to die, condemned her brother to die, she's not looking to save who she can when there are armies of the Greens marching, she just wants to find a way out for herself in exchange for the life of her own family. Her grandson died bc of Rhaenyra, Helaena's son.
@kkurasegi
“The hip shattered at Rook’s Rest had left Aegon bent and twisted, his *once-handsome* features had grown puffy from milk of the poppy, and burn scars covered half his body.” F&B: the dying of the dragons—the short, sad reign of Aegon II.
Just for you to know, there is a large fresh cut in the middle of Aemond's face they are sewing and Alicent asks if THAT wound in question will heal, you don't even have to think that hard to come to that conclusion.
@LordFleaBottom_
@Aemonv1
Sunfyre was a crippled dragon lmao, he couldn't even maintain normal flight, Moondancer was a healthy one, Sunfyre even had fresh wounds from his battle with Grey Ghost and he managed to win against Moondancer. 😂
Just from this post, I just realized—and I have to say, I'm surprised—how Alicent, a non-targaryen, gets mentioned almost as much as Visenya, the Conqueror, in a book about the Targaryens, with Alicent even edging her out by one mention.
Why wouldn't they shout the name of the leader of the black faction that was where they ordered the murder of the king's 6-year-old son? And why wouldn't Helaena be at her son's funeral or Alicent be at her grandson's funeral? why wouldn't Jaehaerys' body be at his own funeral?😭
So, you're telling me that Aemond didn't want to kill Luke and regrets it, the person who took his eye and almost killed him, whom he hasn't seen in 6 years but is willing to kill and let his own brother, whom he has known his whole life, be killed? Seriously?
I really didn't expect that someone who does that would be considered the worst of the worst. Like who would think that person is the worst for doing that? Yeah, it's all propaganda against the blacks.
@thegreeneforce
The same Alicent who says that Aegon is the eldest son of Viserys and is the true heir? Where do u leave the entire plot of Alicent S1? 😭 The same one who fought for YEARS to keep her children alive? Not to mention that Rhaenyra doesn't even have the legitimacy to stand.
@TheJoeMagician
Jaehaera has her back turned, her brother and her are dressed almost similarly (the same in the last season) and with the same hairstyle, it's understandable why he doesn't recognize them from behind but he recognizes that it's Jaehaera as soon as he sees her face.
@Friyana_
Sorry, but Joffrey's biggest plot point is falling to the ground and dying, Rhaena doesn't matter in the war either, and let's not even talk about Viserys, whose only role in the war was being kidnapped, or Aegon. Nettles is the only one who actually has a role.
@Friyana_
I believe that if u force ur son to sit on a throne he doesn't want, and in the end, it costs him his own 4-year-old son, u only use motherly words to make him agree to have his cruelly murdered son become a spectacle, u don't comfort him when u see him crying over it,
@deepiste
What they don't understand is that these types of feelings are normal and you don't have to have a bad relationship with your siblings for that, a great example is Jon and Robb.
But not because of the man you are talking about but this man who is her only parental figure, her only family in that castle where she is a stranger with a family different from hers. She was isolated because Rhaenyra went to a brothel with Daemon.
@banditsecrets
And seeing how this protective instinct becomes a survival mechanism, just like what happened with the servant's death. She used that death to protect her children & herself at the expense of an innocent person's life and the pain of two parents who had just buried their daughter
A veces no se si esta gente es realmente tan tonta, ¿no se dan cuenta que Helaena, Aegon, Alicent y casi toda la servidumbre recorre ese camino todos los días? Eso no es karma en absoluto. 😭😭
Y al final del capítulo, la pobre HELAENA TARGARYEN hizo el mismo recorrido que su madre obligó hacer a Rhaenyra cuando apenas dio a luz a Joffrey.
Me temo que el karma es cruel y Alicent Hightower lo está viviendo en carne propia.
#HouseOfTheDragon
@uprisingenvoys
Why wouldn't Driftmark be her inheritance if when her mother's only sibling dies the inheritance passes to her mother's bloodline, that is, to Baela? Why would she be denied her own mother's inheritance for being a Targaryen?
So Daemon sneaks into KL, knows the castle's secret passages but hires assassins to attack a 16-year-old teenager? That's cowardice, the fact that Daemon didn't even think about this before Rhaenyra said she wanted Aemond shows that he didn't do it out of strategy.
THIS is why no one can convince me blood and cheese was cowardly and Daemon's strategy wasn't brilliant
not only he eliminated the heir but also he showed them not even the biggest dragon in the world can keep them safe from rhaenyra's wrath now
they are everywhere
“For both the blacks and the greens, blood called to blood for vengeance.” Does this seem like femicide to you? “The grief and rage OF LOSING A CHILD could burn down the world” or this?
tb praise him so much for how he spoke about his mother, comparing him to Aemond to make him look worse, and Jace ends up undermining his mother in the worst way, poetic justice 🫴🏻✨. Btw Helaena and Daeron would nevaa
baelon was her TRUE brother, coming from the SAME womb with her, sharing AEMMA blood with her. those other children came from the woman that abused her for years and they were always on their mother's side. rhaenyra's indifference to them was the nicest thing she ever did 🙄
So this shot of Aegon crying is out of pride and not because his little son was brutally murdered while his family was threatened? Wow, seems Aegon crying and having mental breakdowns in some shots doesn't mean he's sad.
sorry but i will never take Aegons grief as a father seriously when half of his brood are probably rotting in flea bottom. he’s self centered, and b/c was a hit to his sense of pride, power, and control and that’s why he gets upset, not bcs he was particularly sad.
“and keep quiet” a mother being psychologically and physically tortured, forced to choose between her sons or her 6 year old daughter will be raped and they would kill them all. Helaena DOESN'T keep quiet and her dreams are NOT literal 💀 always the Lucerys stan being delusional.
Jaehaerys was supposed to have a painless and quick death, but it ended up being very very painful. The thought that the first stab woke that baby up makes me want to throw everything away
Jace is one of the most important characters in Dance and his accomplishments marked him as one of the best diplomatic in Westerosi history. He's more important than Helaena, he's an actual character unlike Aegon and Aemond and his deeds shape the end of Dance in long term
@ManiaOnes43763
@spoolofgreen
1. Moondancer could be ridden by any adult man, war horses are not just for teenagers.
2. Sunfyre was seriously injured, his wounds “healed” but as a consequence, Sunfyre could no longer maintain normal flight, he had a deformed wing.
this is a perfect example of rhaenyra not only being the rightful heir, but also the best choice. aegon is a spoiled inmature child who sees the war as a game, while rhaenyra takes her responsability and duty to the realm seriously, and she regrets what she has to do for war
Now I wonder, how can he be team black knowing that Rhaenyra is a murderer, Daemon a war criminal, Rhaenys a mass murderer and knowing that they orchestrated b&c to go after a 6 year old child?