Steve Kirbach
@steven_brix
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engineering @browsercompany helping bring arc to @windows . former @microsoft . he/him.💍,💻, 🐶,😻,⛷,🏋🏼♂️. i try to diy.
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🪟Windows is coming!
I'm pretty stoked to share with ya'll this little sneak peak of Arc on Windows.
This is written completely in **Swift** using
@WindowsUI
😲
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Hey friends! We're excited to announce we are open sourcing our Swift bindings generator for WinRT
This generator is what empowers us to utilize
@WindowsUI
and the WindowsAppSDK to build Arc on Windows
➡️Find the code at
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we just had one of our largest milestones for arc on windows!
as
@hursh
shared, we recently ported some of our core libraries written in swift & got them working on windows.
follow along if you're interested in the porting journey for our first 4 libraries 👇
3. And finally, porting Arc
The biggest news — our base libraries are in!
@steve_brix
has been painstakingly converting our codebase to be cross-platform & getting tests to pass.
Last month was the first time our
@arcinternet
repo officially had Windows logic in it. A moment!
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i know many of y'all are wondering when we'll ship arc on windows, and i just gave a presentation with the lovely
@hursh
at our
@browsercompany
all-hands on our windows strategy for 2023 🙌
here are some highlights for y'all. a 🧵
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@maria_torres3
@MikeDiGiovanna
@latimessports
@latimes
Sounds like the parents are in denial of what their grown son was doing. I'm incredibly sad that this happened, but it does no good to anyone, including future kids who might be in Tyler's shoes one day, to try and hide what really happened.
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In the last 6 months, we've managed to turn some of the best Swift/iOS/Mac engineers on this 🌎 and turn them into
@WindowsUI
engineers.
Phenomenal job
@alexandracoding
@sherryshao_
@jasdev
@codeblue87
@brianmichel
@_tamijo
@jumhyn
@ms
It starts today.
The first Arc on Windows beta invites are out - and yours is coming soon.
💥 isarconwindowsyet [dot] com
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this is hot off the press 🔥
over the last few months we've been building more foundational pieces to getting arc in a place where we can quickly iterate and bring arc to ya'll lovely folks
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Hey friends! 👋
@browsercompany
is hiring!
2023 is going to be a big year for us as we bring Arc to the biggest desktop platform on the planet🌎
see below for the job postings 👇👇
🪟Windows is coming!
I'm pretty stoked to share with ya'll this little sneak peak of Arc on Windows.
This is written completely in **Swift** using
@WindowsUI
😲
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hey arc on windows friends! 👋
we had many users reporting closing the second window was also closing the first (thanks for the reports btw!)
we just pushed out a fix for this issue so go ahead and click "Check for Updates" in the menu!
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big milestone today…internal dogfooding of Arc on Windows has officially started! 🤗
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we just finished phase 2 of our plan - which was laying the foundation of our app. we are at a point now where we are ready to start internal dogfooding!
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...with that being said the app is suppper rough and not really "arc".
the goal of phase 3 is to port some major features from mac to windows. we're starting with sidebar.
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If you've been keeping up with Windows development over the past year, you've probably heard of Project Reunion - but what exactly is Project Reunion?
There has been a lot of confusion surrounding what it is, and this thread should hopefully clarify exactly what we're building.
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in phase 3 our design team is also going to start crafting experiences to understand how arc on windows will look/feel.
this will give us a better sense of how long features take, allowing us to plan and prioritize what will be in the first production version of arc on windows
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It’s pretty amazing to see such a core part of Arc coming to life on windows!
Amazing work being done by
@alexandracoding
to bring y’all the sexiest windows app you will ever see ✨
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so, what's next?
well, after porting these core libraries, we're starting on integrating your *real sidebar data*
meaning soon pinned tabs, top apps, explore tabs will be alive on windows!
when we have something to share promise ya'll will be the first to know ☺️
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major congrats to the
@WindowsUI
team for releasing the source code for WinUI 3! this is a huge accomplishment and will make all developers lives so much better!
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the first 4 libraries we ported are -
1⃣ ARCFoundation - basic utility functions
2⃣ ARCCore - our chromium wrapper library
3⃣ ARCUI - library where we share common UI code (TBH haven't quite figured this one out yet!)
4⃣ ARCClients - library of core data models & TCA clients
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Hey friends👋
I'm filled with bittersweet emotions as today marks my last day on
@WindowsUI
. On Monday, I'll be joining the VMWare Solutions team in
@Azure
.
I'm so grateful to have worked with such great ppl in my first 7 years at MS, and am excited to explore what's next!
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Over the past year I've learned way too much about MSBuild. I've spent the last bit of my free time re-creating the classic snake game through MSBuild scripts! Check it out and let me know what you think:
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idk about u, but all i want for christmas this year is an arc on windows themed ugly sweater
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one of the big benefits of using swift on windows is that we have a common language for our app and that it's familiar & comfortable for our product engineers.
the libraries we've been porting set us up to onboard the product engs & quickly start bringing arc features to windows
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In follow up posts, we'll be sharing more on how to build a WinUI 3 application in Swift, end-to-end.
Stay tuned and stay Swifty!
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after spelunking around and figuring out what was going on, i was able to fix my nspredicate -> regex conversion issue and after that all the tests passed!
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it's quite simple actually! the 1% of code i had to rewrite had a bug in it!
the issue was in our string -> url parsing code - we were using regex apis that didn't exist on windows. since one cannot simply write a regex & have it work, i naturally introduced a bug...naturally😂
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Alongside this we're also sharing:
1. A post to help orient Swift devs to the world of Windows development & explain the inner workings of the code generator
2. A full sample app using the Swift/WinRT code generator & WinUI 3 ➡️
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I’ll be talking about why we’re making some fundamental changes to the way that .NET and WinRT integrate. If that interests you, then please join us ☺️
📢There's a
#WinUI
Community Call coming up this Weds 10/21 @ 9AM!
~Agenda~
Ecosystem Spotlight-
@Syncfusion
Dev tools updates-
@jpthepm
New controls-
@gabbybilka
&
@mariss_matth
.NET/WinRT info-
@steven_brix
Questions-
Watch-
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@maria_torres3
@MikeDiGiovanna
@latimessports
@latimes
With that being said, my heart truly aches for his parents. A teammate of mine in college accidentally killed himself drunk driving and it was devastating. They need all the love and support to help them get through this difficult time.
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i'll share the journey for the first library i started with - "ARCFoundation"
this library has basic utility functions that are used throughout arc & very few dependencies on anything platform specific (see test cases in screenshot below for some of the things it does)
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It's so rewarding to see your hard work pay off. My wife and I bought a house back in November that was pretty much a blank slate (it lacked a lot of character), we've been working on it a lot and it's really starting to feel like home 🏡.
And oh yeah, I got a promo 🤗
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bonus points (from me, so the best kind) if you also love Windows! 😉
shoot me a dm if you’re interested
woooo okay
we're opening product eng roles at
@browsercompany
our last five product eng hires were
@sherryshao_
@darinwf
@tfeener
@steven_brix
@_tamijo
+ you?!
love iOS/Swift, sweat the craft details, and happiest prototyping with very little info?
DM me please!!
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this library is about 8k lines of code and for 99$ of it, things just compiled as is - and it only took me a few days to get it building! once the project was building, we only had 3 test failures.
why did the tests fail on windows? read on my friend...
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WinRT is *the* technology in which all modern Windows APIs are written in.
These APIs are written in C++, and we leverage the C interop from Swift in order to generate bindings.
We’re dedicated to sharing our work
@browsercompany
- so today we’re publishing our first post on building rich native experiences on Windows with Swift & open sourcing our swift-firebase repo
First up, interoperability! Windows APIs, COM, C++ and how they integrate with Swift🧵
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@BetterMeRunning
The correct answer is to eat well and lift heavy, then watch the fat disappear. Running is cool, but it should be supplemental.
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i’m super blessed to work with such an amazingly talented and lovey group of ppl ❤️
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The
#MicrosoftDocs
team is seriously awesome! They are so responsive at fixing issues when you file feedback, I love it 🤗❤️
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Next c++ interop project for
@brianmichel
:
fork winui 3 and build a matching Swift API directly on top
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It just sort of dawned on me that we're decoupling WinUI from the OS, all while prepping for open source, and adding Win32 support 😳
Open to suggestions if you want to throw more madness into the mix...psyyychhh
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@zeealeid
I don’t understand why you still haven’t been hired by
@Microsoft
idk wtf is going on
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Just finished the most ambitious MSBuild refactoring I've ever attempted 😱😱
Feels great to finally check that shit in, but I feel like I need a vacation after that. Alas, there's no time, WinUI3 can't wait!
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This couldn’t be more true. After spending the last few months in a primary Linux environment, WSL is a god send.
Kudos to
@richturn_ms
,
@craigaloewen
, and the dev team who made it happen 🎉👏
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In the last 6 months, we've managed to turn some of the best Swift/iOS/Mac engineers on this 🌎 and turn them into
@WindowsUI
engineers.
Kudos to
@alexandracoding
@sherryshao_
@jasdev
@codeblue87
@brianmichel
@_tamijo
@jumhyn
@mseijas
and everyone else who made this a reality
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So I don't normally so this but uh... given the current situation of the ENTIRE WORLD I need the extra dopamine hit...
IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!!! 🎉🎊🎈
PLS SEND:
GOOD VIBES🎵
LOVE ❤️
and WARM HUGS 🤗
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Sounds like it's time to build some
#XAML
experiences for Visual Studio Online 😊
Amazing work from the team to bring Visual Studio Online to public preview. Dev box set up in a few seconds! Powered by Azure.
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That
@XAMLLlama
so hot right now
We're brining Uno support to the latest
#WindowsCommunityToolkit
version with DataGrid, Expander and TabView 🔥 Thank you
@XAMLLlama
for all the help!
#WinUIEverywhere
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And that's really all Project Reunion is. If it sounds underwhelming, then that's a good thing. Our goal isn't anything fancy or new. I hope this was helpful, and if you want to look at the spec for the dev experience we're building, check out
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This little guy’s name is Ziggy, what should his full name be? Ziggy Stardust or Ziggy Smalls?
Poll in 🧵
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I always enjoy Arlo’s perspective, and I think he nailed it on this one. UWP isn’t dead, we’re just building the bridge so that developers don’t have to walk a tight rope to get between the two.
Can we talk about Project Reunion for a moment?
Cool. Let's begin. (thread)
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@NachT666
@Notintheface1
Sorry, but that’s not how it works.
If the lower income ppl make more money, they spend more money and buy more goods, so the higher class tier jobs make more money as well.
The only thing that doesn’t work is purposefully creating a larger inequality gap.
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@vosa911
@serveaux
@KyleWAlpha
@TheJordanRachel
I think your logic makes sense. Let’s pay people who do physical labor and customer service more than CEOs. Their work is likely much more difficult than being in meetings all day.
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wow just found out taxis are cheaper and easier to take home from the airport than uber or lyft.
makes me wonder what other technology myths i naively believe?
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@hursh
@AhmedWalid605
@WindowsUI
We used
@compnerd
’s project as a starting point, definitely wouldn’t have been able to do it without him!
We’ll be open sourcing them at some point as well
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@KonteDraco
Holy shit that's huge and quite ugly. I liked the ps5 look more before seeing them side by side.
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We have a real close competition on our hands ladies and gentlemen! The Teams team is barreling edging out Edge for the title of memory hog champion!
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@qizler
@WindowsUI
@alexandracoding
@sherryshao_
@jasdev
@codeblue87
@brianmichel
@_tamijo
@jumhyn
@ms
Sure! There are two main reasons:
1. Code sharing in a memory-safe language. Most major x-plat apps have to use C++ for code sharing.
2. Leverage the skillset of our existing engineer, who are all Swifties
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Finally getting back into the swing of things at work after taking a couple weeks off. I feel rested and recharged 💪
Can someone remind me what’s going on in the
@WindowsUI
world? 🙃
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this is def the vibe today
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There aren’t many things in life as difficult as trying to cancel Xfinity
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I just wrote* a quick little script that removed all my "bin" and "obj" folders on my machine and got back like 130GB of disk space 🙀
*By write I mean copy/pasted from
@StackOverflow
ofc. If I wrote this myself it would've taken many hours and prob nuked the machine.
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It’s amazing, we’re *so* close to having automated cars, and yet we still haven’t figured out how to make printers work reliably
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I think 2019 is going to be the year I listen to way too many podcasts. There is so much to learn from so many people way smarter than I am. Would love to hear recommendations if you have any.
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@arunavadesigns
fantastic question! it’s something i’ve been thinking about lately but we haven’t figured it out yet
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@Windows
@ManuelGuzman
Don’t break my heart in that way. All I want for Christmas is a Windows 95 sweater! ❄️🎁
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@KCAvsFan9
@GhostRunnrOn3rd
@utd_mattp
@BlueJaysDork
@KevinGausman
I’m from seattle and can confirm, blue jays fans show up in Seattle and get hyphy.
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Moving into a completely different technical domain is pretty intimidating tbh.
The one nice thing about being an experienced engineer is that I have a fairly good grasp on what I need to know to be successful.
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There was some amazing collaboration here across teams to get this working! I'm super proud to have been a part of it 🙌
🦙❤ What would make this news even better? What if the
#WindowsCommunityToolkit
released a preview supporting
#WinUI
3 Preview 1? 🦙 On the same day? 😮 YES! Let's bring
#WindowsDev
together
#Win32
#UWP
!
#MSBuild
Go GET IT & please, give feedback! 🎉🎉🎉
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@sadlyoddisfying
@WindowsUI
I imagine there will be certain themes and branding that will be consistent across devices, but we do want it to feel like a fluent app.
The sidebar and minimal chrome are examples of things which are iconic to Arc that we’ll carry over
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If you consider yourself an experienced Windows engineer and are excited about our Swift on Windows plan, give this a look:
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anyone else as excited as i am for silly commercial sunday??
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Can an audio driver cause rendering issues in your .NET Core application? You might be surprised by the answer:
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why am i signed out of zoom every time i open it? i feel like i don't know how to computer anymore
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Hello friends! 👋🏼
It was humbling to see all the excitement last week about Arc on Windows. 🙏🏼
We want to start sharing a bit more and I’d love to know what interests you the most!
Feature/Product updates
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Tech stack (Swift/WinUI3)
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Both equally
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Other (comment below)
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Judging from the noises my cat is making he’s either dying or being forced to use yaml
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@soma_rich
@JenMsft
Super useful! But I don't know why you need to shift-right click for this to come up, it should just be there by default.
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This is a great thread ⬇️⬇️
Product management is one giant messy paradox
Why product management is hard
(and why good product management matters)
1/15 👇🏾
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@grokys
just got done listening to the
@Hanselminutes
episode you did! Super awesome stuff
#AvaloniaUI
is doing and would love to collaborate more so we can start to synergize the different XAML dialects a bit. Interested?
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Wife was too busy delivering babies to get sleep last night. So, I'm working downstairs to prevent the clickity clack of my keyboard from keeping her up. This is the one time my mechanical keyboard has failed me.
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I’ve only done 4 workouts so far, but I’m really impressed with
@voltathletics
so far 💪🏼
I’ll have to keep trying it out to get a better sample size.
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There are two key points to highlight, which I think will make this easier to understand. First, if we go back to what we said Reunion isn't, it's not a new app model or set of APIs - so what we're doing is taking the APIs that shipped in UWP and making them available to Win32.
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What should Ziggy’s full name be?
Ziggy Stardust
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Ziggy Smalls
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@migueldeicaza
@isco_vision
i have many old coworkers who work on it and it's all c++ unforunately.
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