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Why is she being booked? She’s a second victim of arson.
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Messengers, the EC declined to bring the 990 amendment out for a vote.
This morning, I plan to offer a similar motion. When it’s not given a vote, I ask you to vote for the appeal. We need 2/3 to get a vote for financial transparency.
This is your decision. Be prepared to act
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I, for one, am thrilled we have much time to debate dispensationalism, but cannot find time to debate financial transparency.
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Grateful to God to have made the following motion this morning to the Southern Baptist Convention.
Let’s pass 990 Financial Transparency today and restore trust for our Great Commission cooperation.
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I’m grateful for the outpouring of support for 990 financial transparency in the SBC from many of you. I’m disappointed we were unable to secure a vote at this convention.
But this issue isn’t going away.
We remain committed to restoring trust through transparency.
Onward.
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This morning I made a motion requesting the SBC business and financial plan be amended to require 990-level financial disclosure from our entities. Here is why: 🧵
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Good morning, Southern Baptists. May the Lord be honored in all we do these two days!
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Last year, the SBC had remarkable unity around our commitment to male-only pastors. 80% voted for Law Amendment.
The SBC Establishment went into overdrive subverting that unity and defeated the LA.
The Bible has string words for those who stir up division among God’s people.
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Hearing that
@bartbarber
said at 9Marks event that there is a shadow issue at play where those asking for financial transparency believe entity leaders are overpaid.
Is this true, Mr. President?
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Yesterday, I had the opportunity to speak to the
@SBCExecComm
’s finance committee in favor of the motion I made in New Orleans to require 990-level financial disclosure from our entities.
Let me summarize my case:
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Cernovich isn’t talking about the SBC here but the principle remains.
The 990 tells the tale. Some in SBC leadership don’t want that tale told.
We need 990-level financial transparency now.
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Those most concerned about Christian Nationalism collapsing church & state together are the ones actually collapsing church & state.
Yes, regeneration is the goal… for the Church (through evangelism).
But the goal of civil sphere is right ordering of society (through law).
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Why do we keep kids in worship? 🧵
Kids can be hard to wrangle in corporate worship. They make noise, squirm, need to go to the bathroom, need to be disciplined.
Wouldn’t it be easier on everybody just to do something special for the kids?
Sure, but that’s the wrong question
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I am once again asking for financial transparency in the SBC
For years, the American Church has been overrun with leaders who are selling out their ministries to the highest bidders, giving wolves access to their sheep in exchange for elite respectability.
Rather than the truth of Scripture, high-profile pastors are preaching trendy
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Here’s something that’s been wild to watch. The SBC has had a number of divisions over the last few years.
Here comes the
@sbcamendment
and it gets an 80% vote. Unity around our states doctrine—great!
And then SBC leaders spend a year subverting that unity.
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What in the world? We are not a serious convention, and there is no shame.
Cooperation Group member Greg Perkins just presented recommendations to the SBC.
His church employs a female pastor.
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The SBC president is an ex officio trustee of the mission boards and EC. So JD Greear was a paid contractor of NAMB at the same time he was a trustee.
Back where I come from that’s called a conflict of interest.
A 990 would disclose this.
NAMB’s opposition to the Law amendment is know. It’s important
#SBC24
recognize when NAMB’s paid “influencers of influencers” are pushing NAMBs agenda. For those unaware, documents in the McRaney Case showed J.D. Greear is one of these paid NAMB influencers. Deposition of Ezell
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Interesting
@BaptistReview
presidential forum. But not one word or question about financial transparency. Smh
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Imagine being an egal SBC church and thinking 2000 years of Christians across people groups, languages, cultures, continents, and denominations/traditions were the ones captured by culture and some mainliners in the 1970s discovered the true meaning of Scripture.
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As a reminder, this wicked organization reports 990-level information to the public and its donors, but the SBC doesn’t.
BREAKING.🚨
Planned Parenthood is being SUED for trafficking minors out of the State of Missouri in order to evade abort*on laws.
"Planned Parenthood’s most recent troubling activity was captured on video, where Planned Parenthood staff admitted they traffic minors across state
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.
@DustyDeevers
ran a campaign proclaiming the Lordship of Christ, the authority of God’s Word, in favor of abortion abolition/equal protection, and against IVF, no-fault divorce, and pornography.
Political pragmatists, RINOs, and Satan hardest hit.
(Also, Bart Barber)
@DustyDeevers
just won on a no-compromise, abortion abolition, pro family, explicitly Christian campaign and the results weren't even very close.
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The meek inherit the earth. How is one to be meek with no strength to control?
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A few thoughts here: 1) It’s a category confusion to fault
@PerfInjust
’s book on political philosophy for not talking more about evangelism. Evangelism properly belongs to the Church (and individual Christians), not the civil magistrate…
A great point. I strongly believe Christians should be involved in the public square and care about public policy. But the most important way to raise the Christian character in the country is thru evangelism and discipleship. See: Second Great Awakening and/or post WWII.
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Too many people get caught flat-footed merely lamenting the polarization in our country. Better to embrace it.
The center is gone.
Raise your flag, stand your ground, defend your cause, and build your desired future.
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If you prioritize unity over right doctrine, you’ll get neither.
If you prioritize right doctrine, you’ll get unity around it and for it.
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While riding up to Indy I want to express gratitude to
@BaptistLeaders
. They have run 3 articles on the 990 amendment, educating messengers on its importance.
@William_E_Wolfe
is an excellent editor who helped me make my case clearer and stronger.
Very thankful.
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Further, as a pastor, I’m noticing a stark increase in conversations with prospective members who do not want their tithe dollars going to the SBC due to a lack of trust and transparency.
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This video is insane. That this occurred in the same city as 9/11 shows we lack both political will and wisdom.
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Read this and look at all the links to 990s from Baptist colleges, missions agencies, seminaries, and policy advocate orgs.
And then ask, why does the SBC think it’s the exception to basic accountability?
"All that
@rhett_burns
and other Southern Baptists are asking for is what most organizations do without being asked in an effort to serve their donors and constituents."
@tlloydcline
w/an outsider's perspective on financial transparency in the
#SBC
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Recent revelations of financial negligence by SWBTS add to the lack of transparency and allegations of financial impropriety at the NAMB. Southern Baptists deserve to know our missions dollars are well-spent.
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He knows we are spending God’s money and he believes our church members have a right to know how we are spending it.
We should expect nothing less than that standard for the entities of our cooperating churches.
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Having now listened to the full recording of last night's
#SBC
presidential candidates panel, I'm grateful that 3/4 candidates support the 900 Financial Transparency.
To be, ahem, transparent, I was not impressed with
@pastorclint
's answer. Here's why...
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I pastor a small SBC church that just celebrated our 110th anniversary. Our church, including many current members, have faithfully given to the CP for many decades.
I believe they deserve the confidence and courtesy of financial accountability and transparency.
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I don’t understand the Baptist inferiority complex that just assumes the presbys will be in charge or in a position to flog or drown us Baptists.
Virgil is highly concerned that baptists would be criminalized. Scott asks, presumably seriously, why wouldnt you flog Baptists. Virgil is very concerned for atheists.
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It’s true the SBC doesn’t have explicit theological liberalism in the same way as the 70s. No one is outright denying the inerrancy of Scripture.
What we have is missiological or cultural liberalism that implicitly denies the authority of Scripture.
Ends up in the same place.
If the BFM2000 has been enough, why did it take 23 years to vote out a church in KY with a woman pastor (multiple SBC leaders spoke at that church from 2000)?
If the BFM2000 has been enough, why did
@NAMB_SBC
plant Pinewood Church with a female co-lead pastor... even though
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Great Commission partnership runs on trust.
The SBC is running a deficit of trust these days. But it doesn’t have to be this way.
Financial transparency and accountability would go a long way toward restoring trust in our cooperative mission.
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In other words, the perceived financial mismanagement is hurting us on the ground at the local church level.
For these reasons, I hope messengers to
#SBC23
will pass the motion for financial accountability.
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The finance committee chairman at my church is 80 years old. He spends most of his time giving care to his wife. But he keeps meticulous financial records at our church. He has a thick folder with all sorts of records ready to show anyone who asks.
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I’m very excited that
@jaredhmoore
is running for SBC president for many reasons, but especially this one: His refrain on every issue is, “What does the Bible say?”
May his commitment to truth bless the SBC.
The author of one of the most important books published in 2023,
@jaredhmoore
, is running for SBC President. This is a very good thing. May God grant Jared wisdom and establish the work of his hands.
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“Trust the trustees,” they say.
But why should we when they egregiously (and knowingly, willfully) violate our governing documents?
And if an entity will do this in the open, what are they doing behind closed doors?
We need 990-level transparency now.
In an audacious act of self-dealing, the ERLC violated the SBC Business & Financial Plan by sending $250k to ARITF—to be given to the unaccountable “independent” ARC
They act like tithe dollars are Monopoly money
@samwebb1876
explains at
@BaptistLeaders
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Today I had the honor of preaching my grandmother’s funeral. She was 94 years old, knew the Lord, and was faithful.
Praise God for the hope of the resurrection!
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May God give us a thousand more faithful men running for local offices around the country.
Go get ‘em,
@DustyDeevers
I am running to be your Oklahoma District 32 Senator.
For years, I’ve watched as dangerous, immoral policies coming out of Washington, D.C. and even Oklahoma City have hurt my family and the members of my church. I intend to put a stop to it.
I don’t say that as a politician
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Huh. The only candidate against 990-level financial transparency for our entities is also the only candidate I’m seeing making appearances with entity heads.
Curious.
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Last week, 3 SBC president candidates (
@jaredhmoore
@DrDavidLAllen
@keahbone
) reiterated their support for the 990 amendment, showing that this effort has broad support across various “wings” of the SBC.
The 990 promotes convention unity.
Pass the 990 for the good of the SBC.
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When even the Uber driver gets it.
Let’s vote for the 990 amendment tomorrow!
After answering questions about the SBC to my Uber driver he said:
“so you’re voting for transperency? Why didn’t they have that first, the meeting is designed for them to report”
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Then someone should tell them to stop doing that. Being an ethnic minority doesn’t give you a Get-Out-Of-Scripture card.
And Baptist Press should stop astroturfing ahead of Indy and the vote on the
@sbcamendment
The title of pastor is used for women in Chinese Southern Baptist churches because of language, history and culture, but does not indicate churchwide authority, the Chinese Baptist Fellowship of the USA and Canada (CBFUSA) said in an official statement.
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I’m a committed Baptist, but we need to get our act together recovering, developing, and popularizing better:
Political theology,
Family theology, and
Culture war principles and tactics.
Because there is a tension caused by what passes for those things & current reality 1/
If I hadn't already been exposed to better Baptists than this I'd already be Presbyterian.
I repeat, this is embarrassing.
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“I want send sinners away from the mirror and running toward Jesus.” —Pastor
@jaredhmoore
at the
@BaptistLeaders
lunch
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I haven’t kept up but I see that
@merelyjwright
has been maligned.
I’ve sometimes thought Jeff was being a bit over the top on X only for it to be proven later that he was exactly right. Now I just wait.
Jeff is a good man, a good pastor, & a good friend. We need more Jeffs.
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Looking for a Christian, Jewish & Muslim extremely non political prayer group to pray for peace. NYC area, in person. Any suggestions?
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People forget that the pulpit is a combat position
They must be taking cues from Southern Baptists
The same logic that puts women in the pulpit, will send them off to fight in wars
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Not everyone is familiar with what the Form 990 actually is. In this video I try to explain.
Please share with those you know who are going to Indianapolis for
#SBC24
We need 990-level financial transparency in the SBC now.
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At the EC finance committee meeting to hear what they plan to do with the 990 amendment. Please pray for a wise decision for the good of our convention of churches.
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Which, in turn, works with—not against—the work of the Church.
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Please pray for the
@SBCExecComm
finance committee this week as they consider a motion for 990-level transparency I made at the annual meeting.
My understanding is no action will be taken this week, but that they will be discussing the motion.
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I’m here for this type of Baptist leadership.
One time
@William_E_Wolfe
came to Perryville arkansas, a town of less than 1500 people, and did door to door evangelism with us. There may be times he and I disagree on strategies but I’ll tell you this: he is a faithful brother. And i will never forget that.
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Very pleased to see
@dmichaelclary
will be nominated for 1VP of the SBC.
He’s the author of God’s Good Design, an excellent book on one of the most pressing issues of our day—sexuality.
But my favorite thing he’s written is an essay on not scorning our fathers…
We're pleased to announce that, alongside our Presidential nominee
@JaredHMoore
, Credo Alliance is running
@DMichaelClary
for Vice President!
Michael is a family man, urban church-planting pastor, and author.
Get to know him better here (and share):
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Read this thread.
With the SBC happening, I thought it advantageous to remind us of how the presbyterian church was lost... 🧵
Gary North, in "Crossed Fingers," examined the decline of the Presbyterian Church from 1869 to 1936, attributing it to the failure of conservative factions within the
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As for what to do now, in addition to Christian Faithfulness, or as part of it, we need some Christians to organize for political action.
In politics, the most organized and committed minority wins. Why should we sit this game out and cede it to our enemies?
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Here’s why I plan to vote for
@jaredhmoore
for SBC president this June:
1) His commitment to financial transparency in the SBC
2) His commitment to the Bible
(that’s not a ranking, fyi; just the order I talk about them in the video)
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But not everyone is a pastor and all of life is not the Church (even if it is at the center).
Therefore citizens ought to act with determined will to bring about government that acknowledges and obeys Jesus as Lord.
That’s not everyone’s primary task, especially not pastors.
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Here’s the thing. There are only a few people who have asked for financial transparency in a formal way. Me, David Morrill, and a handful of folks today.
So either Bart is assuming motives, telling untruths, or unhelpfully confusing online chatter with those actually asking.
Hearing that
@bartbarber
said at 9Marks event that there is a shadow issue at play where those asking for financial transparency believe entity leaders are overpaid.
Is this true, Mr. President?
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Publicly messing up and privately cleaning up is not how Christian institutions ought to operate.
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Fantastic news! We need godly men zealous for good works in service of King Jesus in all spheres of life. Dusty is one of those men. Congratulations,
@DustyDeevers
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Delayed obedience is disobedience.
My kids know this. I hope the SBC does, too.
Amen - and any attempt to amend it at this meeting is to delay for no good reason.
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For the Respectable™️ chattering class, the most important thing is order (and civility).
Our nation can kill babies, trans kids, give our nation’s wealth to foreign govts, force experimental medicine, and commit war crimes so long as it’s done politely & in the damned order.
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One reason reform in the SBC is so hard is that people who ought to know better, refuse to.
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1) I have never said that. In fact, I’ve repeatedly said that it makes sense to me that those leading large organizations make large salaries.
2) We have no way of knowing. Executive compensation is not disclosed and half our entities refuse to comply with art. 14 of biz plan
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I can’t stress enough how important it is that messengers be allowed to vote on the 990 motion.
If the denominational machine stifles the messengers voice and vote, trust keeps eroding.
But our missions cooperation runs on trust. We need to restore it.
Let us vote.
Pastor
@rhett_burns
explains why SBC churches deserve more financial transparency, and why the
@SBCExecComm
must recognize this is a decision for the messengers:
“This is not a decision for entity heads. This is not a decision for denominational bureaucracy. This is not a
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that other non-profits, including many state Baptist institutions, make public through the Form 990.
We're asking for financial disclosure to allow messengers to evaluate the financial health and trustworthiness of our entities, and to evaluate the trustees that we appoint.
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Pressley says he's in favor of transparency, but his "trust the trustee" answer amounts to keeping the status quo.
The status quo does not give messengers the minimum level of transparency they deserve. The whole problem is a lack of transparency.
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I remain puzzled at those who criticized this essay, saying I was advocating using the church as a means in a political project.
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People will relieve that tension by either going presby or retreatist.
But it’s totally unnecessary. Winning the culture war, keeping your kids, and Christian government can all be consistent with Baptist theology.
It doesn’t have to be this way.
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To be clear, we will not be successful without Christian Faithfulness. God won’t bless anything else.
And I believe the worship of God’s people is highly important, as God uses it like a battering ram against the forces of evil.
As a pastor I give my focus here
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Wonderful news for SC! Very thankful for
@JosiahMagnuson
and the
@SCFreedomCaucus
(including my Dad, who’s a member of the caucus).
🚨BREAKING—
@JosiahMagnuson
just killed the “Health Czar” Bill with a procedural move in the last few minutes before the House adjourned for the year!
We need real medical freedom legislation not weak bills pushed by globalists. Massive win for the our Caucus and for SC!
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It’s like my generation of Christians believe the only false teachers are those like Joel Osteen.
They can’t imagine wolves made it onto their favorite conference circuit, their bookshelves, or to positions of power in their prized evangelical institutions.
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@jaredhmoore
@Credo_Alliance
@merelyjwright
Thanks for running, Jared. You were faithful and glorified Christ throughout your candidacy.
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Presumably, Baptists like Darling do not want the state in charge of evangelism.
It’s weird that the loudest voices about (rightly) separating the institutions of church and state often conflate them in their critiques of Wolfe, when he is careful to keep them separate.
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Glad and grateful to see Dr. Allen on the record supporting the 990 amendment for financial transparency.
True leadership from
@jaredhmoore
and
@DrDavidLAllen
on this issue.
@rhett_burns
@jaredhmoore
@pastorclint
@keahbone
@BruceFrank1
@danspencer7
Count me in as on the record.
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To make matters worse,
@pastorclint
beat up on a strawman when he said: "If we go the way of absolute everybody see everything, then why do you have trustees."
No one is saying let everybody see everything. We are simply asking for the same minimum levels of transparency...
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I submitted this resolution on Financial Transparency in the SBC to the
@SCBaptist
Convention but it was not brought out of committee. More on that later but for now, this is what was submitted and not even given a sniff of a vote.
But it’s what we need: transparency.
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There seems to be a lot of confusion about 990s and how that level of financial disclosure can help the SBC. I’m going to do my best to provide some clarity this week.
First, let’s talk compensation disclosure. ..
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Perhaps. But there’s no financial accountability without transparency.
Financial transparency does not always equate to financial accountability.
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It was great to meet
@BenZeisloft
in person at the SBC. Check out his reports here:
I am very thankful that I was able to attend the Southern Baptist Convention this week on behalf of
@RepubSentinel
.
Read our report on
@SBCAmendment
here:
Read our report on
@PastorClint
winning the SBC presidential election here:
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3) Because the law teaches and sets cultural norms, and because “the most committed minority wins,” the majority of the population need not be Christian for us to make significant progress creating virtuous and Christian governance.
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Therefore, by favoring the status quo, Pressley does not actually favor minimum levels of transparency.
His answer offered platitudes, but no solutions. This is not leadership.
This is: "keep the money coming and we'll do what's best with it."
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Thankful for the opportunity to make the case for 990-level financial disclosure in the SBC over at
@BaptistLeaders
today.
I address: what is the 990, why it helps, what it does, and answers to objections.
“As it stands right now, Planned Parenthood is more financially transparent than the SBC.”
Pastor
@rhett_burns
makes the case to the SBC EC to rebuild trust by allowing messengers to vote for increased financial transparency this June in Indianapolis.
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If an enemy is defined as one who wants to destroy our way of life, then an ecclesiastical enemy is one who wants to destroy our way of life as a convention. Egalitarians want to fundamentally shift our convention in a way that destroys the status quo complementarianiam…
@deaninserra
@jchasedavis
Most in that room are brothers who disagree and not enemies. Of course. And I get that's your point.
But over 600 people voted to keep in a belligerently egalitarian church. That's a real problem and has got to represent at least *some* enemies who need to confronted.
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I would much prefer him to deal with the actual motion rather than boxing at shadows.
I'm hoping maybe Clint just hasn't given it a ton of thought or isn't as familiar with the issue as one would hope a prez candidate would be.
But that was a very disappointing answer.
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Every SBC church ought to have confidence that their missions dollars are being stewarded faithfully. Transparency builds that confidence (which means more dollars for the mission).
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It was disheartening to see
@DrPaulChitwood
’s comments against the 990 amendment.
1) Because transparency is important.
2) Because the truth is important.
I try to provide clarity and accuracy in this piece at
@BaptistLeaders
today.
Another major issue in the SBC is the push to require entities to provide increased financial transparency to our churches.
In this piece, pastor
@rhett_burns
counters the inaccurate claim that more transparency would endanger IMB missionaries. It won't.
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In my latest article
@BaptistLeaders
I outline the current status of the 990 amendment and give recommendations for messenger action on the floor next week at
#SBC24
.
Securing increased financial transparency is one of the most pressing issues in the SBC right now.
@rhett_burns
provides an important update on his Financial Transparency Amendment
"Let me be clear: This is a decision for the messengers, not the EC."
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Southern Baptists deserve actual solutions to real problems. We can't just talk our way out of our current mess.
In other words, we need real leadership.
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