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In my opinion,
#mikebickle
is the greatest bible teacher alive today. I know of no one who has a more realized eternal perspective than Mike. He has not sold his birthright for a bowl of soup. For decades, his heart has been set on the wealth of glory of being Jesus’
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Things you will never hear a “false teacher” say:👇
“Refuse any teaching you can’t see with your own eyes in your own Bible” - Mike Bickle
“I urge you to think for yourself…boldly challenge every idea…” -Mike Bickle Ihopkc
I’ve heard him give this exhortation a large number
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#ihopkc
#mikebickle
👇Trauma-informed deception: 👇
It’s not enough to just be “trauma-informed” you have to be super-trauma-informed a.k.a. gospel-informed. Here is example of Jesus being super-trauma-informed:
There were present at that season some who told Him about the
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@tom_pureheart
Hello, Tom
No, my opinion of
#mikebickle
has not changed. Here is the exact quote from
@EricVolz
“confirmed a level of inappropriate behavior”. If that statement was any weaker it would cease to exist. Somebody hearing a testimony is not confirmation. They said themselves that
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BEATITUDES
“Your spirit will be vibrant if you pursue these eight(beatitudes), and your spirit will be dull if you don’t……no matter how many worship services you come through…..how many times people pray for you…..you will continue with a dull spirit”-
#mikebickle
👇
The 8
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#ihopkc
you are as Lovely as Jerusalem, Awesome as an army with banners! Turn your eyes away from me[jesus], For they have overcome me. (SOS 6:4,5)
I’m sure
#mikebickle
hates it when he breaks down crying on stage, but I love when his tenderness towards the lord uncontrollably
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👇AG false claim below👇
proof included
In the video:
Dwayne Roberts and some of the AG are claiming that Mike, in his last public message, “shared a new encounter” that he had “never shared publicly before” and that he had included a date that was the same date as JD’s
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@dwaynearoberts
@holdenpinner
@EricVolz
The point is you included women on a list as numbered Jane Does without their
permission. That is concerning behavior that should not be defended.
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@dwaynearoberts
Yes, the sooner we realize we are all under divine discipline the better. We all are in need of mercy.
…And the word of the LORD was rare in those days; there was no widespread revelation. 1 Sam. 3:1b
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#ihopkc
“you can be confident of this very thing, that the God who began a good work in you……you can be confident that He will bring it to pass” -
#mikebickle
Phil. 1:6
The first 3 minutes of one of my favorite messages 👇 I highly recommend to anyone who is under any kind of
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(The Inexhaustible Riches of Jesus)
Father of manifest presence, enlighten the eyes of our heart that we may know by experience what is the wealth of the glory of being Jesus’ inheritance
#mikebickle
#ihopkc
8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth
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Song of Solomon 8:6
#ihopkc
“The Lord told me, whatever is in that verse👆…He is gonna anoint…with power…across the whole Body of Christ” -
#mikebickle
A greater anointing to receive and to return the love of God is coming. (John 15:9 & John 17:26)
Enlighten the eyes of
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Do not despise prophecies, but test everything; hold fast what is good.
(1 Thess. 5:20,21)
“We don’t base our ministry on prophetic words….our ministry is based on our relationship with Jesus and the Word of God” - Mike Bickle
“Look at here , 1st Timothy 1, Paul told
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1997 & 1998 were some of the best years for Mike’s sermons.
The audio in this video is from the amazing teaching
#mikebickle
- Forerunners with holy violent love part 1/ November 7, 1998
Link for the full version is in the comments below 👇
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@DBarkleyBriggs
Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.
But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”
(Acts 5:38,39)
#ihopkc
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“He said he heard it like thunder….to the church without mixture, I will give the spirit without measure”-
#mikebickle
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see[experience] God.
Jesus is longing to manifest His glory in His people. So let us continue to persevere in
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Mike Bickle is in good company. Paul at the end of his life wrote to Timothy “all those in Asia have turned away from me”. In 1750, Jonathan Edwards was kicked out of his own church. Mike’s heart has been set for decades, he will continue to press for the prize. Phil. 3:7-14 👇
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@EricVolz
Yes, there is a pattern of someone adding people to lists without their permission. Im pretty sure I know the individual who has been engaging in this concerning behavior.
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I am not claiming Dwayne Roberts or the AG are consciously lying about this. All I’m saying is they reached a false conclusion because of incorrect information.
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@Joel7Richardson
@Lawversations
@jpday5203
@riper_van1739
An increasingly strong delusion will be needed, as the counter evidence mounts, to maintain your belief that Mike is a sexual predator.
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(Building the House of Prayer and Overcoming the Spirit of Accusation)
Behold, a man [God-man]…He is exceedingly zealous for His purposes in the Earth
(Paraphrase of Zechariah 1:8,14)
#mikebickle
quote from posted clip
“Tell them this!…say thus says the Lord, I’m zealous…I
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👇Important Update👇
Dwayne Roberts and some of the AG are propagating a false claim that there was a veiled threat against JD in Mike Bickle ‘s last message at Ihopkc. Take a look at my most recent post to see how I easily disproved that claim and you will also discover an even
👇AG false claim below👇
proof included
In the video:
Dwayne Roberts and some of the AG are claiming that Mike, in his last public message, “shared a new encounter” that he had “never shared publicly before” and that he had included a date that was the same date as JD’s
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@Joel7Richardson
I have been surprised to see a number of Mike’s friends making public responses that lean towards the assumption of guilt. I would think His friends would assume innocence and would remain silent until after the 3rd party investigation was complete.
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@tom_pureheart
@EricVolz
There are core members of the AG who are terrified of true scrutiny of the allegations. The fact that a large percentage of the allegations fell apart with even a cursory examination, tells me, they fear true scrutiny. Of course, they need to hide that fear under the public
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@itsjohnny_pd
@mikebickle
@ihopkc
“Cult leader”?
My use of the word “never” was hyperbolic. My point was you would be hard pressed to find even a single example of a cult leader/false teacher ever “publicly” or “privately” saying something even remotely similar to what Mike Says in the posted video. If you know
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@Jhunterjones
@allenshood
@jonochall
@dwaynearoberts
@mikebickle
@ihopkc
Below, is why I believe it was included, others might believe it was included for more cynical reasons.
Psalm 18 was a central theme in his last message. I believe he included the story of His first encounter because that was when the importance of Psalm 18, for his life and
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The Lord is exceedingly zealous for His purposes in the Earth and
#ihopkc
is a small but important part of that purpose.
#ihopkc
was built on the zeal of God; it was not built on the zeal of man.
This is my response to any sincere Christian who is calling for the destruction of
@DBarkleyBriggs
Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.
But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”
(Acts 5:38,39)
#ihopkc
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@Joel7Richardson
@riper_van1739
@Lawversations
Does it concern you that many of these so called clergy sexual abuse experts, that I’ve seen posting, appear to be christian deconstructionists? One of the she/hers that I’ve seen you repost is a self professed exvangelical. Their motives seem saturated with the rage of Psalm 2
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@blaiseforet
@HutNews
There are two core silent members of the AG (not Allen or Dwayne) who are terrified of a truly unbiased investigation. The fact that a large percentage of the allegations fell apart with even a cursory examination, tells me, they fear true scrutiny. Of course, they need to hide
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@Jedidiahhartley
Allegedly, In 1996, Mike told Jane Doe that Diane was going to die. On August 31 1997, Diana, Princess of Whales died. Partial truths are more effective than total lies. They are also easier to keep track of in a timeline.
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@Joel7Richardson
@EricVolz
@AdamApocalyptiK
Allegedly, In 1996, Mike told Jane Doe that Diane was going to die. On August 31 1997, Diana, Princess of Whales died. Partial truths are more effective than total lies. They are easier to keep straight in a timeline.
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@Joel7Richardson
This is why it is best to wait and see
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. Proverbs 18:17
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@BrumbackMike5
Thank you, that is awesome. Yes, we need what Jesus is seeing, feeling and saying manifested in us.
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@EricVolz
I believe the person who wrote that document, which included names that person didn’t have permission to include , is the same person who leaked it. I believe that individual has been misleading a lot of good people on the advocate side.
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Here are 3 of my favorite messages by
#mikebickle
on how to love Jesus while under pressure. 👇bottom of post
The last 6 years have been the hardest years of my life and through that time God used these 3 messages in a powerful way.
I will be eternally grateful for
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A gentle a quiet spirit is very precious to the Lord
rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. (1 Peter 3:4)
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Full message 👇
Pressing for the Prize: Laying Hold of the Fullness of Our Destiny | Mike Bickle
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To anyone who might say “this is not important or it’s irrelevant”: 👇
The portion of the video that I shared above , according to YouTube, is the “most replayed” part of that entire video. So we can safely conclude, there are a lot of people who would disagree with you.
Full
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@Aclervi
@allenshood
@jonochall
@dwaynearoberts
@mikebickle
@ihopkc
To anyone who might say “this is not important or it’s irrelevant”: 👇
The portion of the video that I shared above , according to YouTube, is the “most replayed” part of that entire video. So we can safely conclude, there are a lot of people who would disagree with you.
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I highly recommend this message to anyone who is currently under pressure 👇
Responding to Trials: Death Working Life in Us (2 Cor. 4:7-18)
March 28, 2010
Video is from this message 👇
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@Joannathelee
@dwaynearoberts
I’m seeing a pattern of someone adding people to lists without their permission.
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@Joel7Richardson
I agree it is wrong for him to do that and it Is equally wrong for anyone who participated in the last Roys Report. This is all so ugly. We all need mercy. Some of us need severe mercy. Mercy is justice to
those who believe.
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@Joel7Richardson
Stephen Strang of the Strang report is reporting that Misty Edwards was also put on Dwayne Roberts victims list without her permission. I don’t know if that is true.
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@candiceteets
@tom_pureheart
@EricVolz
By my math, going from 8 Jane Does to a 1/2 after an initial cursory examination, would be considered “falling apart”
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@Ryan_phillips82
Some of the beginning parts are less applicable today ( because he is talking about current events back then i.e., the election) but the rest is amazing.
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@BrumbackMike5
@ChandiHeenan
@JulieAMeyer
@CaraMaresClark
@jakebienvenujr
@YouTube
Here is the message
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@bennettisaac
Now when these things begin to happen look up [to the beauty narrative] because your redemption draws near [power breakthroughs are coming] and take heed to yourself [look in]. Lest any root of bitterness cause trouble. My natural response is to look out to the pressure.
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Confidence in God in Trials and Changing Seasons (Rom. 5:3-5)
July 22, 2018
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@isierranichole
I am not trying to discredit them. I have the upmost respect for those men. I believe they are doing their best to do what they think is right. Allen hood is one of my favorite Bible teachers.
I am not claiming Dwayne Roberts or the AG are consciously lying about this. All I’m
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@ZionConsultTeam
@starcazm
@AprilRose189
@EricVolz
@Joel7Richardson
That is a deceptive semantic argument.
She was included on the list as one of the numbered Jane Does without her permission.
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@Joel7Richardson
Joel read that Julie said she heard Jason say he heard Stuart say he heard Mike say “yes”
incredible
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Mourning, Meekness, and Spiritual Hunger (Mt. 5:4-6)
March 10, 2012
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@Joannathelee
@dwaynearoberts
I believe that was written and leaked by JD’s husband . The person who wrote it included the other people’s names without their permission.
I believe the person who wrote that document is the mastermind and the main driving force behind the deception that has misled a lot of
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@Joel7Richardson
@babylonsingular
@malachiobrien
@dcburgessfit
@rbohlender
@HeavenBentPod
@ihopkc
He will not suspend humility when He executes justice (psalm 45:3-5) Divine justice is pure in methods, motives, and morals. Which is rare in us “for without me you can do nothing”
And our zeal for justice should cause us to prioritize internal sin over external sin.
Micah 7:9
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@dcburgessfit
@tom_pureheart
@EricVolz
"You know you're right when the counter argument is an insult."
~Michael Gayed
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@candiceteets
@tom_pureheart
@EricVolz
I know why and it has also been leaked why. It was not for the reason most people assume but I don’t want to repeat it here. I can tell you this. You will be disappointed when you eventually find out the reason.
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@riper_van1739
@espekadaengrish
@Joel7Richardson
@Lawversations
@jpday5203
We will never see any actual evidence. Everyone who keeps referencing a giant pile of secret evidence is either lying or has been lied to. I am still hoping in the sincerity of some of the leaders involved. I am hoping men like Joel and Allen have just been misled.
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@ChandiHeenan
@SRClaridgeWrite
“He uses the axe. Then, He judges the axe.” Yes, this is the repeating pattern of scripture.
For I was a little angry, And they helped—but with evil intent. Zechariah 1:15b
I’ve been thinking about making a post on this subject.
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@riper_van1739
@espekadaengrish
@Joel7Richardson
@Lawversations
@jpday5203
I do agree that the Lord is using this. God intends to humble us all. His leadership is perfect.
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@JaysonCarr
@dannylima1031
@ihopkc
@EricVolz
I will ask you the same question that I asked Megan.
Besides the mention of the “black horse prophecy”, which is a prophetic emphasis of a biblical truth,
could you give me one example of an unbiblical exhortation that Mike gave in that message?
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@peace_got
@allenshood
@jonochall
@dwaynearoberts
@mikebickle
@ihopkc
The picture below is from the notes of Mike’s last message. The encounter mentioned in those notes is what they are referring to.
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(Clip is from this message👇)
Overcoming Obstacles in Building the House of Prayer (Zech. 3-4)
August 7, 2012
(And this is a great teaching on Zechariah 3 & 4👇)
The Forerunner Message in Zechariah 3-4
March 20, 2019
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@Joel7Richardson
@riper_van1739
@espekadaengrish
@Lawversations
@jpday5203
I appreciate your concern and I’ll take all the grace I can get but my future is bright. My heart is set on the exceedingly great reward. I will know by experience what is the wealth of the glory of being Jesus’ inheritance.
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@Joel7Richardson
I do agree with you on one point. I see no possibility for middle ground on this. If these allegations were true he would have to be a moral monster. This will be a crash course to the body of Christ what the rage of satan is capable of
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@huth_wesley
That is a fake email. Whoever wrote it attempted to imitate Mike but they failed miserably. It is a laughable caricaturization of him.
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@jpday5203
@ihopkc
“who had nothing to gain by bringing the allegations forward” that statement is impossible to prove or verify
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@Joel7Richardson
@Skylar_Byrne
@mr_finchwood
@Mark91387269
Our anger is rarely pure.
for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. James 1:20
looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled Heb 12:15
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@babylonsingular
@Joel7Richardson
@malachiobrien
@dcburgessfit
@rbohlender
@HeavenBentPod
@ihopkc
Yes but our zeal often outpaces our wisdom and we end up causing more damage than good. (Matthew 13:24-43) God knows how to bring forth justice without cutting corners. There is a reason why prayer is the primary way that we partner with the Lord’s zeal for justice.
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@Joel7Richardson
@babylonsingular
@Oneofmanysons
@ericmetaxas
@ihopkc
One of the many problems with the “2 Mike” hypothesis is that the secret Mike would have to simultaneously be an evil mastermind while at the same time being an imbecile.
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@StrongClan5
@allenshood
@jonochall
@dwaynearoberts
@mikebickle
@ihopkc
You are conflating two different encounters. The Dec 19, 1976 story was about Psalm 18. Augustine’s vision of the black horse happened on Sept 13, 1984
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@biblicalaliens
@CarpenterConae
@Joel7Richardson
Even though I disagree with a lot of Joel’s methods and conclusions over the past few days, I know that He is a godly man who is doing His best to do what He believes is right. I am praying for mercy on us all.
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@Joel7Richardson
Well, she claims that she was. “Her story was simply added” without her permission. Doesn’t that sound strange to you. Did you read the Facebook post?
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@FrankSneed1
@SheilaBoland2
@blaiseforet
@HutNews
I am sorry, I was being a little hyperbolic with my use of the word “terrified”.
“Afraid”, would be a more accurate word.
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@Joel7Richardson
@MaryEMorin77
@CharissaGrace15
“Are You for us or for our adversaries?”
So He said, “No”…
(Joshua 5:13b,14a)
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@candiceteets
@IgnatiousE15874
@EricVolz
I think you are missing the point. Imagine if a group asked you if you were victimized by a certain individual and you said “no I was never victimized by that person”. Then, that group Ignoring what you said (because you are obviously brainwashed) proceeded to include you on a
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@Joel7Richardson
@ericmetaxas
@ihopkc
(Unrelated topic)
Someday, I would love to see you go on The Joe Rogan Experience
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@Joannathelee
The issue is never the issue
The issue is always the revolution
-unknown
Psalm 2
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@ConceptualJames
@ClassicLibera12
@SethDillon
They see the word of God in the worst possible light.
They see it as bondage that is preventing the human race from reaching its highest potential.
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@NathanMarquardt
“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. John 15: 18,19
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@JaysonCarr
@tom_pureheart
@EricVolz
I wasn’t talking about
@allenshood
I believe Allen is a godly, sincere man who is doing his best to do what he thinks is right but I do believe he is being misled by certain individuals. I view most of the men and women in the AG that way, but there are two individuals at the
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@JamesIsaacs440
You would be incorrect
In my opinion,
#mikebickle
is the greatest bible teacher alive today. I know of no one who has a more realized eternal perspective than Mike. He has not sold his birthright for a bowl of soup.
Proverbs 18:17👇
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