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Episode 89: Nick Schaan
Behind the scenes at
@DavidMcLayKidd
design with
@NickSchaan
, talking about
@GrayBullClub
,
@GambleSands
2, the importance of playability and the next generation.
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Whistling Straits, circa 1994
I'm not sure Pete Dye gets enough credit for the engineering required to create The Straits out of this starting point. Basically improvising all of it. Pics from Mike O'Connor (listen to latest Feed the Ball episode)
Thread (more pics)
⬇️⬇️⬇️
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Bill Coore gave me a walk around Wicker Point, the new
@coorecrenshaw
design on Lake Martin, AL. It’s a big wooded property with long slopes, superb green locations, attractive shoreline and some old New England flair in the shaping and contour. A different look for Alabama.
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So it begins: I have officially joined
@discovery
and
@GolfDigest
as associate editor of architecture, working alongside the master, Papa Bear
@RonWhittenGD
. A dream come true. To seeing you all on the road. 🥃
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Good to be back in St. Lucia. One of the most stunning par-3s in the world continues to take shape.
@CabotSaintLucia
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Peachtree in Atlanta is often labeled the first modern, post-war course. It’s actually closer to the last Classical-era course. Modern designs would have scraped these natural movements. RTJ himself would have scraped them if built five years later. Much closer to ANGC & SoHills.
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Rush was the ultimate hater. He helped define hating and cancelling. Just because he liked & played golf doesn’t make him worthy of respect. Golf needs to get over giving destructive people a pass just because they enjoy the same game as those of in the business.
Just rewatched a clip of Rush Limbaugh getting the Medal of Freedom at the SOTU speech. Was struck by the standing O and Pelosi sitting there shuffling papers. So classy. Rush was a friend thru golf. He will be missed. RIP Rush, you never let the haters take you down.
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The par-3 16th
@CabotSaintLucia
will be one of the most talked about on the course, and it’s like it was just there waiting for golf. Mike Keiser rated it a perfect 10. He also gave the par-3 17th a 10 (see previous photos in profile). Wind comes in fronting and from the left.
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NGLA 1950
Photos of the National Golf Links of America from a 1950 Saturday Evening Post magazine article called "America's Snootiest Golf Course." The story mentions how members could sit on the clubhouse porch and watch golfers arrive by private plane.
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Pine Valley, 1953.
This is the 15th green, falling into the lower bunkers on the right side, it looks like. From the James R. Watson Jr. Archives at MSU. The man pictured is superintendent Eb Steiniger.
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In golf design "restoration" can be a loaded word. But sometimes the goal is clear. How do you think Gil Hanse, Jim Wagner and their team did at Southern Hills? These are all the 17th hole, from 1957 through present.
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Every Hole At Oakmont Country Club
This is luscious. Wow. To paraphrase Bob Ford, if you don't like this, you don't like golf. So fun to be a part of these videos.
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The architects who will be transforming Cabot Citrus Farms, nee World Woods, have been announced.
Exciting times in architecture when we're seeing new design perspectives on interesting pieces of land.
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Do Not Grow the Game, Preserve the Game
Golf is sending the wrong message. It's not too late to change it.
via
@feedtheball
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Fast Play Manifesto
I've been playing around with this for a while now, but the timing is right since the issue of slow play has become a white hot topic in recent weeks. So here's what you can do to help. Additional ideas welcomed.
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The Cape at the Lido
@Sand_Valley
being built by Renaissance Golf (tip o’ the hat to
@bschneider126
and Brian Slawnik) is nearly grown in and among the most striking so far, with a moat of bunkers, big fairway ridges to play over and a kicker mound right for low-ball ricochets.
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Coldstream, Cincinnati. Keith Foster renovated the course in 2021 and emulated the original 1959 Dick Wilson bunkering & greens. What a cool place, full of character, great bunker lines. Playing approaches into these deep greens and trying to get to the best angle is the game.
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Every Hole at The Los Angeles Country Club (North Course)
And now for something completely different.
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We have a new entry in the “Golf’s Most Interesting Greens” category, The Club at Lac La Belle near Milwaukee. Designer Craig Haltom built these bad boys that range from subtle to quirky to outrageous. The Gibraltar green must be seen to be believed. Hitting shots into them = 🔥.
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Aiken, SC. The place to be.
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I wish I had a more original take but the 9th @ Myopia Hunt Club is just one of the most extreme/fantastic par 3s you'll ever see, all of 138 yards of it, the tiny green ringed w/ deep, vicious bathtub bunkers. Herbert Leeds brought the pain and didn't care about your feelings.
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Friars Head is similar to Cypress Point in how it builds toward a clashing finish in a sublime setting. But it’s the early holes that set up the suspense, which also mirrors Cypress. The first nine, bouncing through the lowlands, is one of golf’s best creations.
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New Cabot Revelstoke development hopes to bring great golf to the mountains of British Columbia
Another important golf story breaks this morning amid all the Masters recaps: the Cabot team is on the move again with a new course from
@wac_gca
.
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Had a chance to play the “new” East Lake yesterday following the remodel by
@GreenGCA
. Oh baby. This is not how you remember it. The greens are so much more interesting and flexible with sneaky hole locations. 🔥🔥🔥 Thinking is required.
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Looking at photos of Oakmont from a July trip. There's so much going on at Oakmont including, obviously, the putting surfaces, but the ditches are one the course's most profound architectural features pulling aesthetic, strategic and penal duty. I find them to be gorgeous.
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"Strategy," the par 4 15th at The Lido
@Sand_Valley
, is fascinating. Believed based on a Tom Simpson concept, but reversed by Macdonald, there's no good place to drive the ball with bunkers strung diagonally in two directions, forcing layups or dangerous carries on both shots.
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Was searching for something and came across this print from the 1950s. Never get tired of looking at National, even an illustration.
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It's official: the Cabot group will revamp World Woods in Florida as Cabot Citrus Farms. Both Pine Barrens and Rolling Oaks will undergo remodels, though the extent, and who will handle each course, has yet to be determined. Stay tuned.
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Not your father's Congressional.
The par-5 16th, "Going to Church."
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This is what’s known in the business as a teaser:
Coming tomorrow
@GolfDigest
, the new 2021-2022 ranking of America’s 100 Greatest Courses (and Second 100 Greatest).
Did anyone overtake Pine Valley as the
#1
course in America? That’s on , tomorrow.
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The making of Cabot St. Lucia:
A hole by hole tour of the progress at the Coore and Crenshaw-designed
@CabotSaintLucia
. Photos taken March 2020 and November 2021.
Read on.⬇️
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@LandmandG
Hello! Parts of Landmand, the new public
@KingCollinsGolf
course in NE Neb feel like walking among clouds. The greens are wonders of size and creativity—they AVERAGE over 14,000 sf. It’s destination for golf adrenaline junkies, but there’s plenty of smarts here too.
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I know this is Twitter but someone should start an Instagram feed Great Golf Houses about homes on courses (I searched, didn’t see it). Anyone recognize the course from these homes/buildings?
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Is there a course in the U.S. with a collection of par 3s more adrenaline -pumping than CapRock Ranch?
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I cannot get enough of the shaping and contour all around the 2nd green at Pinehurst No. 4. Makes you want to miss the green on purpose. Recovery variety to the max.
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For the “I need more Punchbowl” delegation, how does the
@LandmandG
half-acre bowl at the 10th look?
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Not long ago the natural creeks and tributaries zigging through Southern Hills were shrouded by trees or even piped underground. They're back now thanks to super Russ Myers, Gil Hanse, Jim Wagner & crews, and they're going to be in play in a way they haven't been in decades.
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Because you (I mean me) need a diversion from, hell, everything:
For your consideration, one of golf's greatest entrances--Sheep Ranch's par-5 1st.
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Another gorgeous, tricky par 3
@CabotSaintLucia
. The 7th is a short-iron on a tightrope out to a gorgeous isthmus greensite. No room to miss left or right, so the preferred shot may be to bounce something low onto the front of the green. Sublime.
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A new 36-hole golf club is planned in Florida by the founder of Friar’s Head
Whitman, Axland and Cutten keep it hot.
@wac_gca
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Some first looks
@Old_Barnwell
outside Aiken, the new course developed by Nick Schreiber, designed by
@bschneider126
&
@Dundee_Golf
. A lovely, broad & sandy site with unlimited potential for unique shaping. Holes play through an open bowl and up in the scrub pines. A smooth walk.
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Episode 64: Kyle Hegland
News from the Mothership: greenkeeper supreme
@KyleHegland3
on Sand Hills, its best holes, its weakest link, Dick Youngscap, brutal winters, subtlety, and everything else about one of the world's greatest courses.
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I played quite a few courses this year, but the one that exceeded my expectations the most was Sebonack.
I confess to raising an eyebrow seeing it inside our top 50
@GolfDigest
, but it is such a compelling combo of setting, texture, playability and fun greens. Worthy!
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Held a blind bourbon tasting last night with a group of bourbon drinkers and not really bourbon drinkers. They each ranked their favorites 1-8 and we tallied the results. Keep reading if you’re interested in the bourbons and results…
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The momentum for municipal golf: 11 courses that are getting the love they deserve
The tide for municipal golf continues to turn, for the better. Some revivals to be happy about.
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Mike Strantz is deservedly admired for his fearlessness and how he composed big hazards on created landscapes. He also had a Hitchcock-like ability to build suspense, like the par-5 13th at Bulls Bay that keeps luring you around the corner. It's like the shower scene in Psycho.
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Rodeo Dunes outside of Denver will break ground on the first course this summer, designed by longtime Coore-Crenshaw associate Jim Craig. The property can hold up to 6 courses w/ a C-C course coming next. The goal: different, fun, quirky, public.
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I promised myself I wasn’t going to do this, but I’m a hypocrite and can’t help it. Holes should fit their position on the property and this hole was made for this place. The funny thing is it’s called “Panorama” but for decades trees blocked out the Hudson.
#golfsgreatplaces
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The term "peel back" is often used describing a restoration. It's a good term for what Hanse & Wagner did
@oaklandhillscc
South, where the gorgeously-shaped edges of Ross's putting surfaces, once shrouded in rough and even bunkers, were exposed and recovered.
⬇️The par-4 6th⬇️
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Finalist for greatest photo of a pro ever taken.
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Not many projects Gil Hanse/Jim Wagner work on fly under the radar. The Match at Jonathan’s Landing in Jupiter quietly opened late 2021, a total remodel on flat land with an impressive array of low and high green complexes, some wild surfaces and artistic bunkering. Versatility☑️
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The barrancas at LACC are usually dry and sandy. Not this winter—they were rivers. These are from February, a rare sight. The 2nd, 4th, 7th & 17th.
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Baltimore Country Club East (Tilly, 1926) looking good on a recent fall trip. What a cool piece of land.
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The Lido
@Sand_Valley
is one of the most bewildering, unique and fascinating courses in American golf. A deep dive into what makes it so.
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Episode 41: Mike Clayton
I'm calling this "An Evening With
@MichaelClayto15
." Tour Player/Architect/Author/Caddie/Golf Jedi--Clayts Unbound on
@thehomeofgolf
, MacKenzie, Seve, Norman, Jack,
@barnbougle
!
@occmgolf
+ everything else!
via
@feedtheball
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Episode 86: Blake Conant
The co-designer of the new
@Old_Barnwell
in SC discusses originality vs. derivation, the quest for creativity, the places design inspiration can come from and where to go from here. Very smart man! 🔽🔽🔽
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The Golf Club (1967) is fascinating—surprisingly understated overall on a lovely, gentle country property speckled with dynamic, almost radical experiments of ideas Dye was working through that would later feature prominently in his later work. A national treasure.
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The Making of Cabot Saint Lucia, the second nine.
More hole by hole progress photos of
@CabotSaintLucia
, the upcoming Coore and Crenshaw design. One of the most relentlessly stunning but rugged sites in the world. Photos taken March 2020 and November 2021.
Let's walk the back.
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Hole Focus: The 12th
@ErinHillsGolf
What an incredible and natural hole that just lays on some cascading ground movements. This is
@RonWhittenGD
’s favorite hole and I see why. Blind drive, the ball kicks playfully and the green is beautifully sited in a natural pocket. So fun.
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The big, downhill 1st tells you what to expect from Payne’s Valley when
@TigerWoods
& Friends tee it up on the 22nd: massive turf acreage, playability, scant rough, broad Ozark views, single-contour greens, and on most holes an aggressive challenge line for the advantage seeker.
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Pacific Dunes: Hole-by-hole drone footage with narration by architect Tom Doak
ICYMI, a stunning Pacific Dunes tour to coincide with the release of
@GolfDigest
100 Greatest Public courses. Thanks to Tom Doak for his involvement.
@BandonDunesGolf
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One of the most attractive & overlooked features of Oakmont is the way so many approaches slide seamlessly into the greens. Unless you really know what you’re doing it’s usually best to let the ball run onto the greens, esp. at holes like 1, 10 & 12 that slope toward the back. ❤️
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It's coming.
The 2021 Lido Competition, sponsored by the Alister MacKenzie Society.
Official announcement and details coming next week--watch this space and
@golfdigest
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Episode 66: Tyler Rae
A deep dive with
@TylerRaeDesign
into the times and styles of Ross, Flynn, Findlay, Jones, Strantz and others. This episode will make you smart!
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A feast for your eyes and ears.
Every Hole at Point Hardy Golf Club at Cabot Saint Lucia
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This is golf architecture's equivalent of a rock supergroup, like Cream or Asia. Or Temple of the Dog. Or maybe The Highwaymen. I can't think of a more electric band of designers.
It’s a new beginning - an exciting one, joining with two of golf architecture’s really good and talented men to cover the truly global world of golf.
@cdpgolf1
@DeVriesDesigns
@IVGD1
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Episode 40: David McLay Kidd
@DavidMcLayKidd
goes deep on today's golf media, building
#mammothdunes
@Sand_Valley
,
#thecastlecourse
@TheHomeofGolf
and being driven by artistic instinct.
#golf
#architecture
#preservethegame
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Took a beautiful stroll around The Ocean Course at Kiawah this afternoon—hadn’t been here in a long time. It’s incredible to think this was once lovely but flat, marshy land with no real golf character. Dye’s sense of artistry and imagination was incredible.
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Punchbowls are back--looking at the best modern versions of this fascinating type of green.
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Episode 61: Jim Urbina
For when you need to escape the relatives and company, here's 2 hrs w/ the great Jim Urbina talking about matching architecture to environments, the pitfalls of Instagram on architecture, interactive design,
@BandonDunesGolf
+ more.
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"Courses today are being built on land not suitable for golf, and the end product doesn't look natural. I'd love to have a piece of ground where you can just set the holes into the landscape."
--Ben Crenshaw, 1984
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The highest debut on the 2021-2022
@GolfDigest
ranking this cycle belonged to Congaree, a 2018 Tom Fazio design in SC coming in at No. 39. It's a broad, tumbling course with racy turf and large basins of native sand that sweep up into the edges of greens and fairways.
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Now that Whistling Straits is over…Old Sandwich’s 5th is unlike any short 4 I can recall, with a ridiculously bulging fairway falling off left and right but a straight line to the green if you’ve got the nerve to take it 275 across the gorge. Incredible use of topography.
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Another nugget from the late great Peter Dobereiner on golf carts, written in
@golfdigest
in 1978, long before this epidemic became the national scourge it is today.
@mikeclaytongolf
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Pine Barrens went from one of the most prominent public access courses in the country to almost being under the radar. Its possibly Fazio’s best work.
The par 3 tenth at World Woods
#PineBarrens
. Easily one of the purest golf locations in the Sunshine state. If you've never seen the place find the Phil vs David Toms episode of Shells Wonderful World of Golf.
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Here they are, the four NCAA/ARCHITECTS MARCH MADNESS regions and seeds. Opening the floor to revisions and suggestions before tip-off.
@themobilegolfer
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Coming Monday on the Feed the Ball podcast: Inside the mind of a Caveman—a comprehensive and fascinating talk with Jim Wagner, partner in Hanse Golf Course Design. Stay tuned.
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We've had spirited discussions
@GolfDigest
about "fun" in golf--how to define it, its relevance and whether such a subjective concept can be meaningfully addressed.
I could use help: What is fun to you? Is there such a thing as a "fun course" or is it only how you view/play it?
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Swung thru
@PinehillsCCWI
today—supt. Rod Johnson is a maestro. I don’t know if
@the_fried_egg
was the first to “discover” Pine Hills, but if so brilliant and 🙏. One of the best sets of greens I’ve come across, and the property’s movements have to be seen to be believed. ❤️
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Seminole is looking so good and the great work of
@coorecrenshaw
, Dave Axland and Jeff Bradley is being flattered. But coming down the stretch it’s the native and sandscape work of
@KyleFranzGolf
that might be stealing the show.
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I’ve seen quite a few people ask why Ohoopee Match Club didn’t make the
@GolfDigest
rankings. We have a 75 evaluation minimum for courses to be eligible for 100 Greatest (collected over 10 years). Can’t say where it would have come in, but not enough of our panelists got there.
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It had been about a decade since I’d been to Ballyneal. The greens were everything I remembered them to be, which is one of the most joyous and creative sets of putting surfaces in the country.
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The rooftop views
@LandmandG
are inspiring, but how does the course play? A deeper look inside the new public course in NE Nebraska.
Landmand is golf’s next extraordinary new course, built by Sweetens Cove’s designers King-Collins
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What's Wrong With Augusta?
Much of the criticism and consternation about ANGC's course changes dies down once the balls are in the air. That's kind of the point.
@TheMasters
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Teaser: "Can a golf course be too wide? How does that work? Can a golf course be too much fun? I'm not sure where that conversation goes about too much width." An entertaining and fulsome conversation with
@DavidMcLayKidd
, coming Tuesday.
@Sand_Valley
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I understand all those who long for Riviera to return to the old Thomas/Bell faded edge irregular bunkers, but the current bunkers, with their sculpted lines, contrast and depth, are pieces of art in their own right and are a major part of how the design continues to draw you in.
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I was thinking about Jim Engh, and wish I had more photos of holes he created. This is the Creek Club's 4th at Reynolds Lake Oconee, a remarkably elastic par-3 that can play both severe and coddling, depending on the hole location and the strike.
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Payne’s Valley grabbed the spotlight last week, but Ozarks National presents a different view of design—demanding more direct engagement—and the property’s strongest collection of par 3s. Pictured: 17, 6, 8 and 12 (2nd hole not pictured).
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It was fascinating to observe that The Lido
@Sand_Valley
is being built almost as if by a giant 3D printer using automated GPS-guided bulldozers. All in the effort to achieve as complete accuracy as possible to the original. Here's how it's being done.
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An early look at the renovation of what’s long been considered one of Seth Raynor’s great “what if’s.”
@TylerRaeDesign
and
@KyleFranzGolf
are finally bringing out Lookout Mountain’s long latent potential.
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The biggest improvement in position in the 2021-2022
@GolfDigest
rankings belongs to Bel-Air, which jumped over 40 places to No. 127 following a restoration by Tom Doak and Renaissance Golf.
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Topic: Bunkers
Jim Urbina recently had some beautiful, concise thoughts on bunkers in LINKS. He'll be joining me in the Salon this week to discuss--please submit questions here if there are particular topics you'd like to hear him talk about.
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Bourbon of the Night 🥃
Let’s see it. No showing off*
All whiskys count
Strength in numbers. 💪
*showing off is posting anything better than I have.
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Bill Langford, 1940. Pretty much sums up golf course architecture.
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Whoa! Is the USGA finally getting the message about simplicity? About less is more? About messaging itself? Some serious snark here. I like it!
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