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I have no background in classical music but recently unlocked a tremendous amount of energy to pour into listening to and understanding it. It's maybe been the most emotionally rewarding learning experience of my life. Here's what I've used so far to "boot up" --
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The
@tylercowen
idea of cracking culture codes is prob the most life enriching mentality. To understand and appreciate (while not necessarily agreeing w) the value systems of Burning Man, SEC football, EA, fly fishing, modern art, etc. makes life endlessly interesting.
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Robert Greenberg's lecture series "How to Listen to and Understand Great Music" is an excellent overview on forms, terms, techniques, etc., and Robert is fired up throughout the entire 36 hours.
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It's a cliche but absolutely cranking the volume on Beethoven's 9th and Mahler's 2nd were the first listening experiences that chilled my bones and brought me to tears. Good God, hit the 11 min mark here and strap in.
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Scott Sumner low key has some of the most profound posts on the meaning of life on the entire internet.
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Almost every time I put off a book due to length I kick myself for not reading years earlier within the first 100p.
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New episode with
@tylercowen
. We talk about Tyler's implicit theology, literature in translation, Jonathan Swift, Peter Thiel, The Sopranos, NGDP targeting and a whole lot more. Links below --
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I don't always retain everything from the lecture series but the YouTube channel "Inside the Score" is a good supplement when I need review eg sonata form or fugues. It also has video overviews of individual composers and pieces.
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Scott Sumner's quarterly film posts are the best of blogs. Something special about criticism from the perspective of a fan that you don't quite get from professional critics.
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And of course, books. Harold Schonberg's "The Lives of Great Composers" reminds me of Durant's "The Story of Philosophy", the first book I read when I went down that rabbit hole. It's has ~20 page chapters, each a biography of a composer or period. He describes his approach
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New episode with
@SamoBurja
. We talk about the inaccuracies of history, gerontocracy, nuclear energy and much more. Links below--
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Paul Johnson's "Mozart: A Life" is a quick read and I was thrilled to find that Johnson's favorite pieces were also the ones I was currently obsessed with: the minor key concertos 20 and 24 and the 40th symphony. And it was a delight to learn Mozart was a full throttle life
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Alongside ChatGPT, I've been a heavy user of the Marginal Revolution search function to see what
@tylercowen
has had to say over the years on pieces, composers, recordings, etc. (As an aside, I interviewed Tyler two months ago and realized my biggest gap in understanding him was
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Have mentioned this before, but Scott Sumner's non-econ posts are the most underrated things on the internet. Great compilation:
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Post is aging *very* well -
“always ask yourself: ‘what is this person’s implicit theology?’ No matter who it is. There are few more useful questions at your disposal.” -
@tylercowen
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Part of the motivation for getting into this was observing how intensely I saw others enjoy this music. This is on full display in Murakami's Conversations with Seiji Ozawa, where it's clear at some moments even Ozawa is blown away by Murakami's ardor.
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New episode with
@Noahpinion
. We chat about Japan's inheritance tax, Keynes' 15 hour work week, Piketty's r>g, economic development in Africa, Javier Milei, and I get called out for mispronouncing Anime. Links below --
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I could go on and on about my ChatGPT queries, but some examples are
- "Was Schubert's 8th actually unfinished"
- "What are some of Mozart's darkest pieces"
- "What are the most highly regarded piano concertos"
- "Do violin sonatas always have a piano"
etc etc
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Spotify playlist for current fav piano concerti
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The best part of all this is of course actually listening to the music and, even better, attending live concerts. I'm lucky enough to live in NYC where Carnegie Hall and David Geffen Hall are stacked every week. They have calendars on their websites, but
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I'm on a piano concerto kick and will share some favorites. For the last two weeks, I've taken a walk around the West Village every day and listened to the first movement of both Mozart's No. 20 in D Minor and No. 24 in C Minor.
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The opening to Beethoven's No. 4 in G Major is just insane, and the Emperor is great too.
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The Sticky Notes podcast by
@joshweilerstein
has been indispensable for understanding individual pieces. Last week I went to see Mozart's 40th and Brahms Violin Concerto at Carnegie, and thankfully the pod had a dedicated episode for each that I listened to ahead of the show. It
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New episode with
@elidourado
. We revisit his post "notes on technology in the 2020s", discuss whether ideas are getting harder to find, Tainter's theory of collapse, and more.
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@WyattRa63123307
@tylercowen
Search "cultural codes" on marg rev to start, and
@g_leech_
wrote about it extensively here
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Hopefully I will look back on this thread in a year and reminisce on how little understanding I had. I wish I had discovered this 20 years ago, but am so very grateful I started now!
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New episode with
@alexeyguzey
. We talk about what makes for a good research paper, utilitarianism, when to take advice, and more. Links below --
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@misha_saul
I feel the same way toward Sapiens + Freakonomics. Can be very meaningful to you at the right point in time + realizing they're not 100% correct teaches you how to think for yourself
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Tchaikovsky's No. 1, Rachmaninoff's No. 2, and Brahms No. 2 are also on repeat.
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The future will be nuts. Polygenic risk scores, predicting human height, gene editing, and much more in my convo with
@hsu_steve
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Also,
@FischerKing64
,
@BohmRespektor
,
@VonKoczalski
, and
@culturaltutor
have good tweets on classical music, but surely there must be more? Very curious who else posts on this.
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Should also add that /r/classicalmusic has been pretty useful during this boot up phase. It seems to stay on topic and is all about the music.
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New episode with Sebastian Mallaby. We cover EMH in public v private markets, investor specialization, decision making at the Fed, Marx, Sebastian's theory of history, and more. Links and transcript below --
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One of my fav novel structures is the story of genius from the pov of the best friend. Friend recognizes the genius at an early age, who becomes the protagonist of the friend's life. They understand them better than anyone but never quite form a consistent model of their mind.
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(Carries with it the enormous added benefit that it becomes much harder to have negative emotional reactions to alternative points of view.)
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Bernstein: "If there could be only one recording of mine permitted to exist after the day of judgement, this one would instantly be my choice."
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Can't remember the last book that so greatly exceeded my expectations. The epilogue is especially good - Moser reflects on urgency under the awareness of mortality.
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Bet in 100 years they'll look back at what kept art alive and credit MR for getting donors into it when they were young.
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@AlecStapp
@dwarkesh_sp
@tylercowen
@Noahpinion
@nabeelqu
@VitalikButerin
@s_r_constantin
@hamandcheese
@TheZvi
@alexeyguzey
Huge thank you and glad you enjoy it!
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Good biographies often give me a more satisfying grasp of historical periods than books that are explicitly history. Feels more real to see it through the lived experience of an individual rather than piece together a narrative from major events.
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New episode tomorrow with Sebastian Mallaby.
"It's the radical unpredictable individuals who matter in business entrepreneurship and who matter in geopolitics, and this is what history can capture. And it's something that political science utterly cannot."
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New episode with author and composer Jan Swafford. We talk about Mozart, Beethoven, artistic genius, the state of contemporary art, and more. Links and transcript below --
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@jordan_castro2
Prob a lot of people who have interests they share with few or zero people they know IRL.
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Holding opposing ideas in your head at the same time makes it a lot more fun to think through these questions
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Think a lot about the
@hsu_steve
take that humans with genetically juiced IQ might be the first ones to build AGI.
How do humans compete with artificial intelligence?
Perhaps we’ll just need to increase human intelligence.
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If the current state of the internet + technology stagnated completely, my guess is we haven't even seen 10% of the cultural change it will cause. Much of the US workforce grew up without mobile or social media and foreign cultural influence is just getting started.
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Loads of fun chatting with
@robinhanson
about the sacred, social rot, and why it's our weird descendants that make us afraid of AI.
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Abandoned Anna Karenina several times until trying a non-P&V translation. Now it's an all-time favorite.
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I remember thinking about this chart a lot in college and recognized it's probably true but didn't really grok it. 10 years later it's scary real.
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My unpopular personal finance take is you come out on top using a debit card for everything. Even the best points credit card doesn't cover the subconscious increase in spending.
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Weird to think the next Elon, Scorsese, T Swift, they're all out there alive right now, unknown to others and themselves.
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Was blown away by Dave Hickey's Air Guitar: Essays on Art & Democracy. Mega fan argues with beautiful prose that the value of art comes from the everyday person's emotional response + free market principles rather than institutional approval. 10/10
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J.G. Ballard on reading the classics too early. It is crazy to me how different an experience you can have with the same book or movie even 5 years later.
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First book I think of when people talk about how even elite biz, gov't, etc are basically held together by duct tape. People and personalities caused LKY wild problems, but he could somehow intuit solutions to placate both world leaders and entire cultures.
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@hsu_steve
How scifi would it be to see legislation that asks to pause compute in favor of accelerating genetic super geniuses.
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I get about the same enjoyment (of a different type ofc) walking through nice parts of NYC as on trails in the Marin headlands. Nearly everyone enjoys the latter, the former seems split due to some dimension of personality.
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Prob my favorite Bezos clip. Claim that stress results from inaction over something you can control; once you take action stress goes away. Implication is working is actually lower stress than sitting idol.
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Most rewarding reading experiences have to be the first few books on a topic I have zero background in. Going deeper is great but the feeling of discovering a completely new world/culture diminishes quickly.
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Haven't given much time to movies lately, perfect flick coming out of a hiatus.
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Wonder a lot about how much published work (in any field) goes unrecognized today, only for future generations to celebrate it as canonical to the early 21st century.
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The comments section of music on YouTube is the best part of the entire internet - raw enthusiasm.
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Hard to imagine the mindset of a culture where it is surprising to feel like you are finally surpassing a people who lived 1900 years before you.
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His 2024 Q1 post dropped today. Also featuring Gene Wolfe, Stefan Zweig, and Benjamin Moser.
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The ratio of the plausibility of juicing IQ by several std dev to how strange it would make our world is off the charts.
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Something a little mythical about the greats who only have limited talks / interviews publicly available eg Thiel + Jobs. Perception would be much different if they tweeted daily. Wonder where the equilibrium is for these types.
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- Transcript:
- Spotify:
- Apple:
- YouTube:
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Even 10 years ago the set of possible career paths for a young person was pretty opaque (how to break in, what you actually do, salary, etc.). Feels like it's 100x better now with /r/fatfire, levelsfyi, and all sorts of similar forums.
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The deepest point The Matrix made is that there is something a little suspicious about being alive at this exact point in time.
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Sometimes I'll ask an LLM what it thinks of my podcast questions and it'll give me some generic "this is smart and shows you've done research" and I'll think "yes it is" and feel good.
I realize now this is the therapist use case people talk about.
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Very much enjoyed talking with the polymathic
@TheZvi
about strategy games, AI, and a whole lot more.
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@erealander
It hasn't been a binary thing. Early on it was kind of boring, but I believed I just didn't get it yet, and working through the lectures/podcasts, books, ChatGPT searches, and the rest of this thread made it more enjoyable every day, and it keeps getting better.
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Both incredible.
Wallowing in nostalgia (an autobiography):
What do we mean by meaning?:
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Proust, Picasso, Stein, Ravel, all present at the premiere of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring. Music so strange for its time a riot ensued, 40 people ejected. Hard to imagine anything close to an analogous event happening today.
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*Very* excited to release this ep next week.
@nabeelqu
reminds me of
@tylercowen
in that you can throw seemingly any question at him and get a concise and pithy response. We cover film, Shakespeare, Wittgenstein, AI, Twitter, NYC v SF, and more. Preview of timestamps below --
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As good as it gets
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@ConradBastable
The most impressive people in lit, film, arts in general mostly didn't get it from school. Including STEM majors who are often surprisingly impressive in humanities from side interest.
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Freakonomics and Sapiens type books get a bad rap but I'm not sure I would have gone down deeper rabbit holes had they not existed as accessible entry points.
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John Comenius on the problems with schooling (1650), sounding nearly identical to the complaints of today.
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Theory that this post had a massive indirect causal effect on current sentiment.
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Lee Kuan Yew's interviews always remind me of Peter Thiel. Can't put my finger on what the similarity is but the takes hit the same.
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For whatever reason (to me) Girard's ideas were initially mind blowing but once I got it the returns to going deeper diminished fast (or maybe I never fully "got it")
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Think about this post all the time. Can't come close to articulating a reason but prefer the old layout by a lot.
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Sometimes I burn out from reading or movies or listening to podcasts or whatever and spiral into thinking it's all pointless consumption. Never feel that way with music or socializing though.
It’s amazing how normal it’s become for peoples hobbies to boil down to nothing more than some form of consumption.
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The fact that most messes with my sense of time is that a witness to Abe Lincoln's assassination appeared on a TV gameshow in 1956.
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Wonder how many future classics in lit, movies, etc are completely unrecognized as such today. Samuel Pepys derided Romeo and Juliet - seems like it's rarely obvious.
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Listen on --
Apple:
Spotify:
YouTube:
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Could make the case the best fiction - Borges, Sebald, Knausgaard, Houellebecq - all explore the surreality of time in some way.
The extraordinary sequence in Proust’s Time Regained where the narrator fails to recognise a room full of elderly-looking people before realising that, in fact, they’re his friends who have like him become old without realising.
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In 100 years it seems pretty likely this exact moment will be considered the beginning of recorded history. Millions of hours of video of regular people just living their lives on the internet for anyone to watch. Pre-internet will basically be prehistoric.
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