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“The level” to which you refer is occupied by qualified GPs for a reason.
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Is this Joseph Ormerod of Locum PA? Interesting.
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My favourite trend is PAs commenting on the nature of attaining a medical degree, with zero experience in this area.
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@drkeithsiau
@ExplosiveEnema2
@RCHTWeCare
@FPARCP
@BritSocGastro
@UKGastroDr
@parthaskar
@DrAsifQasim
@DrLKVaughan
@DrSteveTaylor
@AlisonGeorge10
@Dr_Done_
@Doctors_Vote
So is he performing endoscopies as a paramedic or PA? If the latter, he shouldn’t be using his prescribing credentials from another role
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Some responses to the BMA document on PA scope
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So you agree?
You think PAs don’t bring unique skills?
@medicalmodelbri
@ClearThinker66
@Shamz_141
@InvCoriolis
@VishwajeetP4t3l
When were PAs marketed as bringing unique skills? We simply serve as an additional pair of hands to aid the NHS in meeting its demands.
Not everything that presents to primary care needs to be seen by a GP.
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@drmattuk
And of course, let’s remember that this is who Stephen Nash associates with, his UMAPs-promoting buddy, Joseph Ormerod.
Keep up the good fight, Matt.
Is this Joseph Ormerod of Locum PA? Interesting.
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@ExplosiveEnema2
Wonderful commitment to the role shown by his career history of PA school -> working as PA -> realising he could profit off of PAs -> quitting working as a PA -> opening company to profit off of PAs (i.e. his former colleagues)
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@Kate727663761
@Effiedeans
I think we ought to leave judging intelligence to someone else, Kate.
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He also viciously promotes LocumPA in multiple comments, with promises of inflated salaries
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a gmc number on an IR order =/= permission, as we have learned from many a FOIs
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@mouseter_chef
I don’t see how his explanation is any better. FPA states PAs should not be prescribing using credentials from another role?
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Being a PA is not a protected characteristic and playing pretend will not make it so. Just stop. This post is embarrassing.
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@GMCharlatan
How would they know in the first place if they have no healthcare experience prior to PA school?
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Any genuine points made in this post are masked by the passive aggressive way in which they were delivered
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We have transcended from “medical school in 2 years” to “I’m saving lives”
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@ExplosiveEnema2
@RCHTWeCare
@FPARCP
@BritSocGastro
@UKGastroDr
@parthaskar
@DrAsifQasim
@DrLKVaughan
@DrSteveTaylor
@AlisonGeorge10
@Dr_Done_
@Doctors_Vote
As the training lead for
@RCHTWeCare
, and having signed off this PA, let me respond.
Non medical endoscopists provide a significant and important contribution to endoscopy procedures in the UK whether we like it or not. They all have to go through a robust certification process
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@drahussnain
There is no way this isn’t a troll and I actually applaud whoever made it. If it’s not, I give up.
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Genuinely don’t understand the confidence to state this is from Passmed, as if we don’t know what Passmed looks like
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How can you “forget so much of medicine” when you haven’t learned much of it in the first place?
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Using US evidence to justify UK PA is fundamentally flawed, yet it happens constantly. The PA role in the US historically relies upon the individual having patient care experience prior to their training, a crucial element entirely missing in the UK. Can we even call them PAs?
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@Dr_Done_
It is absolutely fucking mindboggling that someone could go straight from working as a security officer and sales assistant to a 2-year PA course to seeing patients in this way
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@ClareGerada
@drclairetaylor
@UKGastroDr
@NHSEngland
@RCPhysicians
@parthaskar
@DrLKVaughan
Patients die with GPs so let’s pass them off to people less qualified than GPs? Right.
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@Cleverclog67596
@medicalmodelbri
@Megsenmumdr
I wonder if Dr Farrant (“supervising” derm consultant she works for) is still responsible for what goes on in her private clinic…
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What the fuck is going on in America? This is a chiropractor
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Here he is being an exemplar of professionalism in the comments of a post by
@Adam_Skeen
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Very baffled by this PA LinkedIn profile
Apparently he orders scans and prescribes meds illegally?
If he did medicine, he would be a current F1 (started PA course 2018)
We are letting unqualified people dress up as Doctor and treat our families and friends.
IT HAS TO STOP.
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@toast36742904
PAs act like they are a marginalised community. Like being a PA is a protected characteristic.
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@Xeon4f145d96s1
Would like to FOI the GMC to provide the actual quote(s) that led them to determine that maintaining 3 separate databases would be cost-prohibitive.
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⛔️ Rebuttal
An infographic with misinformation is currently being shared on social media.
We corrected it for you 😉
🚨 MAPs, share away!
#PhysicianAssociate
#AnaesthesiaAssociate
#MAPs
#UMAPs
#MedicalAssociateProfessionals
#🐙
⛔️ Rebuttal
An infographic with misinformation is currently being shared on social media.
We corrected it for you 😉
🚨 MAPs, share away!
#PhysicianAssociate
#AnaesthesiaAssociate
#MAPs
#UMAPs
#MedicalAssociateProfessionals
#🐙
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@SophieAnnBurges
Given that you can search the Passmed question bank and this question appears a total of zero times, along with the above, I assume you’d like to retract your statement
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@moribunddr
@helen_barnowl
Datix back for their terrible grasp on grammar: “alleged to of remarked”. Also nothing like the classic “control your emotions” advice to a woman.
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@InvCoriolis
@IndeedUK
@Xeon4f145d96s1
@Dr_Done_
@ExplosiveEnema2
@Parody_RCGP
@GMCharlatan
@Ask_foradoctor
@2manypeople4me
@medicalmodelbri
@DrGoblin3
Becoming a PA is certainly a way to put the medical expert dream to rest.
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What the fuck is this Canva-made “graphic design is my passion” ad. Embarrassing.
We're funding 350 additional medical school places in England for 2025/26.
This is part of our NHS Long Term Workforce Plan commitment to double medical school places by 2031.
See how places have been allocated to medical schools 🔻
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Follow up: are we surprised
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I wonder how many switch from pursuing medicine to becoming PAs not solely because of academic shortcomings, but because their interview showed significant gaps in teamwork and communication skills. The frequency of defensiveness and resistance to feedback among PAs is shocking.
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@DrLMRodrigues
@medicalmodelbri
A way for PAs to put themselves in the “medicine” camp rather than “nursing” as it’s commonly used as the opposite of the “nursing model”.
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@p_fiftythree
@medicalmodelbri
@FunctionsZeta
@parthaskar
@DrNeenaJha
@drsophiegp
@Dr_Done_
@Xeon4f145d96s1
@ExplosiveEnema2
It'll take me about 5 days to get to it because his website is garbage, but yes, good idea.
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@apthous
@BMA_JuniorDocs
@BMA_Consultants
I'm proud that 98% of voting doctors are united for fair pay. To construe this as a 'denigration of professional responsibilities' is missing the point: we can't effectively care for patients if our own welfare is compromised.
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@Xeon4f145d96s1
@p_fiftythree
@medicalmodelbri
@FunctionsZeta
@parthaskar
@DrNeenaJha
@drsophiegp
@Dr_Done_
@ExplosiveEnema2
@Ormerod84
Truly skilled impersonator who has gone as far as to snap photos of his car
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PA explains precisely why PAs should not be in primary care
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More ChatGPT-written drivel about PAs on the LinkedIn feed.
This is a trend. If you lack understanding of your own profession's purpose, asking someone (or thing) else to explain it seems like a sensible choice.
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@dr_barrett
@medicalmodelbri
There are many telltale signs. Sentence structure (it loves to reverse things as a way of adding variety, among other things) and word choice. A big one here is a UK person using Americanisms such as Z in place of S (and, depending on who you ask, Oxford commas).
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• Dude trust me
Opposing Physician Associates is a textbook case of rejecting evidence based policy in favour of misguided credentialism.
Using PAs, who perform no worse than GPs on independent standardised metrics but cost less, is a vital part of saving our NHS for another generation.
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New version unlocked
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY PA'S CALLING THEMSELVES DOCTORS!? 😩
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The irony of a PA programme director having a medical sciences degree, MBA, and PhD and calling themselves an experienced clinician is not lost
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@Dr_Done_
@BMA_James_Steen
@medicalmodelbri
@p_fiftythree
@FunctionsZeta
@parthaskar
@DrNeenaJha
@drsophiegp
@Xeon4f145d96s1
@ExplosiveEnema2
And he deleted both his Reddit and Instagram accounts immediately after this. Silly.
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@comfy_cards
@Molly2323232323
@mmamas1973
You study a curriculum. Medicine’s curriculum is of a depth that requires at LEAST 4-5 years of study, not including postgraduate training. Physician associates study the physician associate curriculum. Not medicine. Why aren’t you proud to say that you studied PA?
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@SophieAnnBurges
They are a paid resource. Passmed is a paid resource. If pa2be is stealing questions from passmed and reselling them, that would be copyright infringement. So is this the case?
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@ExplosiveEnema2
No, you would not, because psychiatrists are medically trained. Clinical psychologists are not.
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PAs practice “medical dermatology” in their own private businesses now? Right.
‘Journey into medicine’
‘A GP’s Guide’
‘As a GP - Physician associate’
It’s almost as if they want to be a dr
Oh they don’t ? My bad .
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Can we all just agree that “medical model” means nothing nowadays and stop throwing it about as if it does?
@CasualtySurgeon
@ABarotchi1
@Molly2323232323
@TheEMboardround
You lie. You spread misinformation and you hate your colleagues. PAs are trained to the medical model. They never claim they went to med school. You doctors are now radicalised against PAs. You’re basically now terrorists in the NHS
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@Dr_Done_
@BMA_James_Steen
@medicalmodelbri
@p_fiftythree
@FunctionsZeta
@parthaskar
@DrNeenaJha
@drsophiegp
@Xeon4f145d96s1
@ExplosiveEnema2
I have just realised this is likely his justification for the username, and I wish I could go back to a time where I haven’t.
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@LukeAmos__
I've seen your comments. The confidence with which she repeatedly makes uninformed statements is astounding.
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@p_fiftythree
@Xeon4f145d96s1
@medicalmodelbri
@FunctionsZeta
@parthaskar
@DrNeenaJha
@drsophiegp
@Dr_Done_
@ExplosiveEnema2
@Ormerod84
Pfffffttt. Good one.
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@ExplosiveEnema
Nope. They were all taken from this person’s Instagram, who she claimed (in a now deleted tweet) is a family friend. But she also claimed to have posted photos of herself in the mix, and that was a lie, so…
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@dr_barrett
@medicalmodelbri
Performing excisions with surgical finesse,
Leveraging a wealth of […],
Drawing from […],
ChatGPT *loves* “by doing x, subject does y”
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@FunctionsZeta
@medicalmodelbri
It would be hilarious if he does exactly what he criticises Saunders for doing here
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@DocDoLi
You sure about that?
@GMCharlatan
@oncopharmacist
Good grief, it's such trash-teir study design. Main outcome measured - 'wait time', has nothing to do with the grade of person seeing them.
Why not also study air temperature in the car park with regard to the number of porters on shift?
'quantitative study of outcomes' my arse
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