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You weren’t aware that Douglas Wilson is outrageously racist? That’s fair. Well, here are the receipts proving that he is, and now you can’t unknow this.
Pastors, do not bring this man’s influence into your church. And be a true shepherd if it has taken hold and root it out.
Douglas Wilson & Steve Wilkins, 1996:
The abolitionists fighting Southern Slavery were “driven by a hatred of the Word of God.”
Almost exactly what enslaver Robert Dabney wrote.
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Jim Nance, middle-aged Logos School Bible and Logic teacher, began targeting, isolating, grooming, controlling and s3xually touching Emilie Paige when she was 17 and a student at Logos. Attached are pictures of Nance and Emilie from that time.
>
@KSPrior
@douglaswils
So 18 year olds have zero culpability for their actions in your view?
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Doug Wilson’s lawyer has contacted us. We are consulting with a lawyer to consider options, and will be crowdfunding for legal fees. Please stand by for that crowdfunding link to go live. If anyone has a way to contact Boz Tchividjian, we would love his help. Thanks, all.
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🧾Receipts:
There’s a growing movement among Doug Wilson & Co to either strip women of voting rights OR require they vote as instructed by their husbands.
Receipt
#1
: Stephen Wolfe, Christian Nationalism author, published thru Wilson’s family publishing company Canon Press.
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Doug Wilson was indeed mad about
@sarahstankorb
’s VICE article featuring survivors of his abuse. First he tried to control the story, then eventually realized he couldn’t. That was when he condemned to hell anyone who read the article and publicly expressed compassion for
@SimeonTheFool
@ExaminingMoscow
@DavePosMil
@douglaswils
@canonpress
The media has already started - Doug was red hot mad about that VICE article by
@sarahstankorb
and he can't be happy that his cult made it into three full chapters of
#DisobedientWomen
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This is deeply concerning. This man believes that women can be abused at will by their husbands and forced to stay married. I can understand this view in no other way but as a present day form of slavery for women.
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This Thanksgiving I am deeply grateful that more Christians are seeing the problems with Doug Wilson.
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A big good morning to everyone except Joel Webbon!
#ExamineDougWilson
#ExamineMoscowMood
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(source material in comments)
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Doug Wilson’s faithful adherent Joe Rigney trying to handle the fire he set, but apparently needed to bring in the Chief when it burned out of control. Happy No Quarter November, Doug Wilson. You wanted your fire, you got it.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Women are saved the same way men are: by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, and not through any kind of works, lest anyone should boast (Ephesians 2:8-9)
@ExaminingMoscow
Women ARE saved through childbearing, assuming they continue in faith, love, and holiness
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Doug Wilson is peddling a form of prosperity gospel:
Buy all my stuff, work the formula, and you too will have a family with no apostates. And of course if anyone *does* leave the faith it’s because *you* didn’t work the formula right.
Mark and avoid.
Doug Wilson & Canon Press attempting to profit off of Nancy’s viral clip. Note the:
✔️Blatant prosperity gospel promises
✔️Promise to reveal parenting “secrets” for a price.
✔️Price tag on the resources! 🤑
✔️Pressure & expectation on the extended family.
✔️Built in defense -
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Well this was unexpected 👀
Also: Nancy blink twice if you need help we will send in a team
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Alex Lloyd, former deacon at Doug Wilson’s church in Moscow, ID, was sentenced this week to 2 years in federal prison for possession of child pornography (more accurately known as child sexual assault material). In addition to his prison sentence, Lloyd
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If you believe that men are saved by faith alone in Christ, but women are saved by faith in Christ + doing the works of childbearing, then you are believing a false gospel that is a true heresy.
@ExaminingMoscow
"Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control." - 1Tim 2.15. Was the apostle Paul a "Douglas Wilson affiliate" too?
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The lid is slipping off their can of crazy. And unfortunately for them, they aren’t grasping how they are being perceived by normal Christians. This the beginning of the end for them. Next steps: survivor interviews and a podcast with the hosts discussing what went wrong.
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Here are screenshots of Doug Wilson grooming women to be simpering, manipulative, decorative baubles who are the property of men, and who will give up their agency and voice.
Doug Wilson is selling a formula.
It’s a grift.
His grift dehumanizes and degrades women.
Resist the
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She’s not a scared little girl anymore. She has found her voice.
* * * * * * * * * *
“Surviving Sexual Abuse In Doug Wilson’s Logos School”
“My Abuse Story and How I Got Away”
Part 1 -
Part 2 -
Emilie’s
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When Doug Wilson was contained in his little bubble in Moscow, Idaho, he could largely keep abuse scandals contained. He also has surrounded himself with family members and loyalists who constantly kiss his ring, which doesn’t help either.
But now, after he has worked tirelessly
This “No Quarter November” isn’t going how Doug Wilson imagined it would.
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“Hey brother sorry we’ve lost touch. What church are you at these days?
“Hey brother sorry we’ve lost touch. What city did you settle in again?”
This is all Moscow Cult code for you have been targeted, and we will be contacting your pastor to demand he discipline you.
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When Wilson’s cult falls apart, and it will, there will be a lot of folks coming out of it needing a place to sort through what happened. Let’s be prepared to help them. Pray for how you can minister to them in a Christlike way.
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To glorify God, and enjoy him forever.”
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Thank you so much to everyone who has encouraged us, and especially thank you to all the victims who have entrusted their stories to us.
"Let justice roll down like a river, and righteousness like a mighty torrent." (Amos 5:24)
#EDWAMstrong
❤️
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Douglas Wilson, in his book “Why Children Matter”:
“Little girls flirt and manipulate”
Is anyone else disturbed by this?
"Little girls flirt and manipulate."
~Douglas Wilson, "Why Children Matter"
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We all get what’s going on here, right?
Doug Wilson: I am the law. I am God. I alone will decree when the abused women crying out under my reign are actually being abused. I alone will adjudicate if something is or is not a crime. I alone will decree when law enforcement will be
@SimeonTheFool
@ExaminingMoscow
@DavePosMil
@douglaswils
@canonpress
@sarahstankorb
And here's additional context on what Doug thinks about reporting crimes:
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Doug Wilson is a man who seized control of a church, ordained himself, set up a system stacked with relatives and loyalists insulating him from accountability, and from there, participated in a heretical theology condemned by numerous Reformed denominations, enabled sexual
“Why are you a Christian?”
Doug Wilson: “I had godly parents who raised me up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, and my mom spanked me a lot.”
God’s formula for raising godly offspring!
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Part 1 of Emilie Paige’s story
MY ABUSE STORY (PART 1): SURVIVING MY ‘CLASSICAL CHRISTIAN EDUCATION’
**Content warning: mentions of sexual abuse, sexual assault, suicidal ideation, and eating disorders**
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An open letter to Joe Rigney in response to a tweet implying Emilie Dye Paige was complicit in what occurred between her and Jim Nance,
I’ll get right to the point: you need to get educated about the facts. The “immoral behavior” began *before*
@Emilie_Dye
turned 18, and was
@ry3564
The police concluded that the immoral behavior occurred after she turned 18. And when she was asked whether anything physical occurred, she denied it.
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“Doug summoned a bunch of doctors (Joe Rigney, Ben Merkle, and Tim Harmon) to talk about the Trinity. And spoiler, it concludes with everyone agreeing that Doug isn't a heretic.”
Let me see if I’ve got this straight: three of Doug Wilson’s employees, one of them a relative, one
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Doug Wilson grooming women to be simpering, manipulative, decorative baubles who are the property of men, and who will give up their agency and voice.
#Grooming
#MoscowHandmaids
#MoscowCult
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He’s a dirty old man obsessed with sex. Can we all go home now? And throw away his creepy books?
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🧵 We’ve heard from many pastors that Doug Wilson’s followers infiltrated their churches, joined the Bible studies, then slowly introduced the men to Doug Wilson’s materials.
Result: Destroyed friendships, relationships, families, churches, communities.
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@noahbergmann_
Noah,
Non-consensual sexual touching is illegal and a form of sexual assault. When a minor is involved, anyone who knows about it happening is a mandated reporter. Both Doug and Nancy Wilson knew, and did not report. They broke the law by not reporting, then covered it up.
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#MoscowMood
No Quarter November didn’t go as planned, and now Moscow folks (like
@TJSumpter
) are scrambling to explain how they’re really truly pinky promise not a cult, and that if your pastors are warning you about them, you should pay no attention to their warnings, and
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Former CREC church member Tia Levings: “We had moved to Tennessee at this point to be in this cult group that is a very high control denomination, it’s a Doug Wilson church, it’s his own denomination. And I didn’t realize I was joining a wife spanking cult, but that is what it
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@TJSumpter
What Doug and Nancy Wilson did here was not emotionally healthy. Nancy spanked her child for being disappointed a playdate was over when the child was still at the age of learning to navigate her emotions. What that taught the little girl was to stuff her emotions, lie, and put
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🧵Abuse survivor Emilie Paige addresses Doug Wilson, the pastor who protected and enabled her abuser
No one ASKED me.
No one asked me when a complaint was made about Nance's behaviour toward me.
No one asked me when my mother found out he was messaging me.
No one asked me when he "confessed" to being inappropriate with me.
No one asked me in the months after he resigned.
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🧵 1/ Examining Doug Wilson and the case of the Medina family. Hilary and her family were Christ Church members. Hilary talks about her father having a bad temper that frightened her and other family members.
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My favorite part of
#NoQuarterNovember
has been the courage of the abuse survivors coming forward. May God bless them and strengthen them. The Lord knows and sees what has been done to “the least of these.”
Jade -
Emilie -
Hilary
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EDWAM, a 🧵
Our organization’s members all tried reasoning privately with church leaders behind the scenes for years about Douglas Wilson’s dangerous and spreading influence. That approach didn’t work. So we then made the decision to turn to the internet.
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While studying cult markers recently, I came to understand that if a church has to regularly state publicly that they are not a cult, it is often a sign that they are in fact a cult. I thought that was fascinating and rather telling.
Looking at you, Moscow. Looking at you 👀
@drantbradley
Doug Wilson and Canon Press stand strong in defense of the gospel message and Christianity. Nothing "cult" about it.
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The graphic on the VICE article is a moving one: women w/ their arms linked, leading one another to safety.
Don’t like VICE? fine. But don’t reject primary source documentation just because of where it was published. That’s a logical fallacy.
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White Pill, I have some news for you which may come as a shock: there are large numbers of conservative Christians who think Doug Wilson is an unstable, dangerous man.
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An open appeal to Keith & Kristyn Getty of the popular Getty Music conferences
Dear Keith & Kristyn,
We’re writing to warn you, respectfully, that your recent connection with New Saint Andrews (NSA) isn’t wise.
*Fans of
@gettymusic
, please retweet and comment for
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Doug Wilson: “….in the general scheme of things, the apostle Paul wants the women to make the sandwiches.”
The Apostle Paul:
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Always the caterwauling about context. Listen: the only context I can think of to make this better is something along the lines of, “The following is monstrous parenting advice that no-one should ever implement.” Alas, that is not the context.
@ExaminingMoscow
Where is the link to the full clip? Context matters, your opinion.. well didn't you get a letter?
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We’re not flagrant apostates or antichrists. Our admins are confessionally Reformed, conservative by any metric, and adhere to all the creeds and confessions of the historic Christian faith.
And Doug Wilson is a huge problem who needs to be clearly marked out by church leaders.
@YokedWithChrist
Moscow has major problems, but the most vocal critics or Moscow have even worse problems. Some are flagrant apostates and antichrists.
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We have been willing to take the time to gather quotes + curate primary source evidence for folks. We’ll be happy to present some of these quotes to Libby Locke, including the one stating that women are assigned the duty of “making the sandwiches.” And then there’s discovery 🥰
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Doug Wilson is wrong. We are not here to save this world. This present age is passing away, and we are exiles and sojourners, here to share Christ with a dark and dying world, but doing so with gentleness and respect, not mockery, contempt and disdain.
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Doug Wilson illegally took over the pulpit where he was playing guitar, and lied that he had a letter from the other elders signalling their support. He continued to tell this lie for 10 years before finally admitting he had no such letter.
Source:
@RonHebensperger
@realsandibachom
@ExaminingMoscow
I believe he declared himself. Right,
@ExaminingMoscow
?
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@BenZeisloft
What about wives who are abused and feel unsafe in their marriages? Do you believe they must not be allowed to pursue divorce?
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Christians, be careful who you follow.
Imagine being a non-Christian hearing a random crowd of people singing about sharpening their axe at night. And they wonder why folks are scared of Christian fanaticism. Zero self awareness.
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Joel Webbon (Doug Wilson affiliate):
“Just for the record real quick, the founders weren't going to Africa and stealing people, they were buying them. They were buying them. So who stole them? …. I don't have to be ashamed (of America’s chattel slavery history)."
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If you believe that men are saved by faith alone in Christ alone, but women are saved by faith in Christ + doing the works of childbearing, then you are believing a false gospel that is a true heresy.
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A pastor from Austin, Texas explaining how Doug Wilson and the Fight-Laugh-Feast folks helped him understand not to be embarrassed by American chattel slavery.
#ExamineMoscowConnections
#ExamineMoscow
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It was illegal for slaves to read or write. So this is a nonsensical exercise grounded in revisionist Lost Cause history.
(Screenshot from Doug Wilson’s Omnibus curriculum.)
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Christians who have familiarity with both Moscow and Gothard say that Moscow is just Gothardism rebooted: big emphasis on outward appearances and putting a
#shinyhappy
face on it. Forced joy. Forced obedience. Forced submission. Which means that the submission and joy and
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Update: In response to our question regarding Christ Church’s live Q&A tonight, the admin for Douglas Wilson’s family publishing company Canon Press tweeted this response: “Streaming exclusive on Deez+”
For those who don’t know, “Deez” is a reference to testicles.
So in
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@joe_rigney
@ry3564
Joe,
You need to get educated about the facts. The “immoral behavior” began *before*
@Emilie_Dye
turned 18, and was instigated by her middle-aged Bible teacher (long hugs, non-consensual sexual touching, etc). When *something* became known, Emilie was never questioned, though
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Narrator: The Godhead does not, in fact, contain authority and submission
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Jim Nance began grooming Emilie when she was a minor. Come on Joe, think this thru. What if it was your daughter targeted as a minor by her high school teacher, groomed and s3xually touched (tho not penetrated) for several years, and eventually r*ped? Look at Emilie in this pic.
@KSPrior
@douglaswils
So 18 year olds have zero culpability for their actions in your view?
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Kinists seem to be flocking to Moscow, Idaho. Interesting 🤔
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“The beatings will continue until morale improves.”
#ExamineNancyWilson
#ExamineDougWilson
#ExamineMoscow
#EDWAM
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“He gave me a full frontal hug the day before Christmas break, my junior year…. (after that) he gave me a long hug every Friday.”
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Excerpt from “My Abuse Story: Surviving My Classical Christian Education, Part 1 (by Emilie Paige)”
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@losingsystems10
@ExaminingMoscow
@DavePosMil
@douglaswils
@canonpress
Add the fact that his attempt at damage control was to straight-up say if you don’t agree with him you’re not truly saved— right out of the Cult Leaders 101 textbook.
At that point it’s less bad press and more self-immolation.
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Christian Nationalists in Moscow, Idaho arguably building a militia and training with high grade weapons. Folks, this is not your typical concealed carry/CCL.
Anyone concerned yet?
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Our purpose is straightforward: to compile and make accessible the primary source evidence documentating the problems with Doug Wilson & his Moscow Movement. It is not gossip, slander or libel; rather, it is publicly available information. In short, it’s documentation.
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Joel Webbon to his wife: “…you’re not going to outpace me…”
The Church In Exile Vs. The Church Conquest, Joshua 1:1-9 (18:45 min timestamp)
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You’re not a victim here Joe, not unless you consider yourself a victim of your own foolishness in saying an abu$e survivor was complicit in her own abu$e.
Also: here’s a more Christlike take on empathy👇
Me:
- Praises compassion as a virtue
- Warns about the cruelty of untethered empathy
- Condemns the wicked actions of an authority figure
- Raises the question of whether 18 year olds are responsible for their actions at all.
*Kaboom*
The Empathetic Mob never ceases to amaze.
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Rachel Jankovic TLDR; Give yourself 20 minutes of cheerful obedience to the task at hand and you wil find that you "pulled yourself out of it." Friend, if you need to cry... then cry. It is ok to feel sadness. Sadness is not sin. It is not the enemy. It is not a lack of faith. It
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For reference, here’s Doug Wilson’s teaching which sets up conditions for marital rape to occur in.
If you think sex in marriage can’t be “an egalitarian pleasuring party” because “true authority & true submission are…an erotic necessity”, you’re telling me all I need to know about your understanding of Scripture, or rather, the lack thereof.
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Doug Wilson’s speaking event at the Brazilian conference is cancelled. He’s no longer scheduled as a plenary speaker.
This is not persecution for the sake of the gospel: this is conservative Christians examining the controversies associated with Doug Wilson and saying no thanks.
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Putting the theological argument aside, when did Doug Wilson’s adherents’ start claiming that he is a doctor?
😂😂😂
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Conservative Brazilians were the ones who were instrumental in Doug Wilson being removed as a keynote speaker at the upcoming Brazilian conference in February. Not the leftists, not the liberals.
For the record, we at Examining Moscow are conservative Christians as well.
Wilson is saying he was cancelled in Brazil because the “intolerance of the left”.
I was once a speaker at CC and I affirm:
IT WAS NOT THE LEFT
All the left has done was an article with his views on slavery. Like many of us who didn’t want him here, I’m a reformed conservative
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Heads up: Joel Webbon wants to have no fault divorce done away with.
Under the Christian Nationalists itching to take power, women are to be passed from owner-father to owner-husband after which she becomes the property of the owner-husband. She will not be able to vote or
Thank God for no-fault divorce because this is absolutely deranged, abusive behavior
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Doug Wilson seems unhappy with one of our memes as well our stated purpose of documenting the serious errors associated w/him & his various organizations. Put another way, it seems we’re over the target. We will therefore press on.
No traffic link here:
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@tuckercarlson
, are you aware that your recent guest
@santspliego
of
@NewFounding
was arrested in 2019 in Moscow, Idaho, pled guilty to 3 counts of telephone harassment, and was fired from his then job because of it since it involved one of his female employees? 🤔
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Joe, Emilie was a student who was groomed, not an adult in a consensual affair. This was not an affair, it was sexual assault. Nance should be in prison.
@KSPrior
@douglaswils
It provides a good opportunity to illustrate the point. I can, without hesitation, condemn the sinfulness of both Jim *and* Emilie (including the fact that Jim’s sin was unquestionably worse). My question is: would you condemn the sin of *both* of them? Or only Jim’s?
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Your daily reminder that empathy is not a sin.
“Jesus wept.” (John 11:35)
“Weep with those who weep.” (Romans 12:15)
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@1689er
Women are saved the same way men are: by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, and not through any kind of works, lest anyone should boast (Eph 2:8-9)
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Doug Wilson’s teachings on silent, obedient female submission to all men has set up conditions for abuse to flourish in. After counseling with Doug Wilson, abuse victims are apparently funneled toward Wilson’s wife, Nancy Wilson, who counsels them in such a way as to ensure
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About a month ago I had a 3 hour conversation with a former Christ Church member, a gentleman in his 70s.
One takeaway: that even after 20 years of living many states away from Doug Wilson and having had no contact with him, he was still terrified of Wilson.
Think about that.
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Joe Rigney probably didn’t have defending a middle aged r*pist teacher at the crown jewel of his boss’s school system on his agenda for today, but here we are.
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Now
@sarahstankorb
has published a book on authoritarian abuse called “Disobedient Women.” What does the title mean? In authoritarian groups, women aren’t supposed to speak and they’re certainly not supposed to speak about their abuse. Sarah interviewed several of our EDWAM
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Young Christian mamas, do you see how you’re being set up? First Doug Wilson’s daughter Rachel Jankovic comes in to browbeat you for looking at ~free~ Instagram decorating ideas. Then Doug Wilson’s other daughter Rebekah Merkle swoops in to $ell you her decorating class
👉
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Please know that we are still here to listen to survivors, to have empathy for them, and to help them tell their stories.
Dr R. C. Sproul: “Empathy means to ‘feel with’ another person.”
We know that “Jesus wept” (John 12:35) and we are to “weep with those who weep” (Romans
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Another day, another report of abuse in a Christ Church family. This time it’s brothers raping their prepubescent sister. Some days the things we hear are simply unbearable.
And then I think: the victims don’t get a day off. So we’re not going to take a day off either.
#EDWAM
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Pacific Intent wins the internet today 👏
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@Sledteamcaptain
If you believe that men are saved by faith alone in Christ alone, yet women are saved by faith in Christ + doing the works of childbearing, then you are believing a false gospel that is a true heresy.
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Can we talk a little bit more about Hilary Medina’s case? Hilary’s family were Christ Church members and Hilary attended Logos.
Hilary’s case has a lot of primary witnesses in it: Hilary herself, Doug Wilson, Nancy Wilson, and a father who confessed to secretly engaging in
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I don’t need to come to Christ because I’m already a Christian. Yes, I believe you that Douglas Wilson is very gracious to a great many people. The ones he’s not gracious to are abuse victims. And that is a very serious, and disqualifying, sin. A pastor who has abdicated his
@ExaminingMoscow
@RealCandaceO
You slander instead of talking to Doug. He is a godly and gracious man and faithful gospel preacher and pastor. Repent and come to Christ.
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Doug Wilson & the folks who run his family publishing company Canon Press have relentlessly marketed “Christian Nationalism” (which they published) for weeks. It’s been the focus of Wilson’s annual No Quarter November vanity event. They have worked hard to gather a crowd for
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🧵 /11
“For a long time, I was angry at the school secretary for saying something because that was the point where my life went from hard to unbearable. Sadly, she was the only person at the school who tried to protect me.”
—————
Excerpt from “My Abuse Story, by Emilie Paige”
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This interview started off bad, and just got worse and worse:
Joe Rigney: “(Women’s empathy) becomes a major liability when you’re dealing with the guarding of ethical boundaries. So that guardianship role is one that God has built men to be especially suited for.”
Women’s
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@IssuesEtc
, as we have several Lutheran contributors, and I personally listen to your podcast, I was surprised and saddened to see your interview yesterday with
@joe_rigney
who is still repeating his “untethered empathy” trope. You should be careful there, because what
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This is the Nancy Wilson clip that went viral, and launched a thousand ships on the journey of “Maybe we should reconsider our promoting of this Wilson family and their parenting teachings”
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