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In case anyone who used to follow me sees me posting with just a couple of followers and wonders who I am, this was what I was best known for in my previous Twitter incarnation, in response to the witless Sally Hines.
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@suzanne_moore
@frankieboyle
Shows that whether he’s a trans ally or a “transphobe”, the thing that’s stable is his misogyny
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The safeguarding issues around the trans rights movement were never “men in make up pose a uniquely high risk to children because it’s weird that they wear dresses and make up”; it was “the trans rights movement seeks to position men in dresses and make up as posing less of a
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I’ve seen adverts for art groups for women. Sometimes the theme is something I’d be really interested in. But I respect that they’re for women. I don’t think “huh, women must be crap at art if they can’t do it with men”; I think “yeah, when I think about it, men have a tendency
Make no mistake, this is an attack on ALL women, cis and trans. The implication is that cis women are intellectually inferior to cis men. We probably shouldn’t bother our tiny little heads with something as complicated as chess.
Bigotry harms all of us.
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@ThePosieParker
@Docstockk
I don’t agree with PP on many aspects of this, but she’s absolutely right here that a high profile influential group of GC people have seemingly decided that DH is a-OK, and whatever the language they used, they do treat him as an honorary woman. What the “anons”recognise is
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risk than other men, and to shut down any scrutiny of this idea. This provided a means for any man to circumvent safeguarding concerns via a trans identity”
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@suzanne_moore
@laurasnapes
has covered misogyny in the music industry well and at length. I’d be interested to know her take on this. In fact - I’m even more interested if she’s a trans ally and believes Roisin did wrong. I’d love to hear someone actually try to justify her treatment
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I don’t really see the point of attacking people like Kathy Burke. Yep it’s frustrating that she doesn’t get it, it’s frustrating that she seems to have picked a side. But surely the aim should be to make it easier for people to move - even a little - towards “our” side. We
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@teresamaryclark
@RoddyQC
@knoweuro
@Scott_Wortley
That was an absence of a right you absolute wally. Sex based rights makes it illegal to discriminate on the basis of sex. It needs to recognise that sex exists, to recognise the ways in which it might suit members of one sex to try to restrict the opportunities of the other
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to dominate spaces they’re in, to speak over women, to act as if they are there to teach women how to draw regardless of whether they need or want help”
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@garylfrancione
It’s more than that though; no individual can even know what it’s like to be another individual of the same sex. A man can’t even fully understand his brother’s relationship with their parents. Other minds are a mystery to us. So the idea that a man can gloss over the fact that
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The term didn’t exist because until 2014 batshit activists like you hadn’t been demanding that male people should have rights as if they were female despite not being female
The way that a group of mostly quite stupid people managed to make “sex-based rights”, a term that didn’t really exist before 2014, a point of *cross-party consensus* in less than a decade… it’s quite impressive
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I’m always fascinated by how people like Stella Creasy don’t see the asymmetrical dynamics of trans activism. Why is she so comfortable advocating that male people identifying as women can do so while celebrating their body as already being female without intervention, but never
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@HJoyceGender
Despite many trans activists seeming to think it was a platform biased against them, if anything the moderator was actually pretty damned slack at reigning in Fred’s abusive language. Helen actually did a better job moderating than the moderator, including keeping her supporters
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@KnuckyB
@FondOfBeetles
@KatyMontgomerie
@Martina
@IndiaWilloughby
Katy is essentially a troll. There’s never any sincerity or coherence to Katy’s assertions, and they so carefully avoid the difficult bits that it’s inconceivable that it’s not on purpose. Katy is not stupid - Katy understands better than most how incoherent trans activism is;
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@SVPhillimore
@billybragg
And yet again, Billy immediately stops replying when he gets a substantial answer, and will move on without having taken anything on board whatsoever. There’s a word for people who are unwilling to shift their entrenched views even in the face of compelling arguments: bigot
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This is exactly why
@helenstaniland
keeps asking the question. It really brings out the inadvertant “you’re being mean about men!” bullshit. Why is it that I, a six foot tall, bearded, physically large male can recognise that I pose a risk but women who understand this in
@leftysceptic
@darkcobrabws
@helenstaniland
@MsVanillaRose
Helen deliberately phrases the question to make it sound like men are trying to rape young girls. That's the "loaded" part.
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Laura Snapes used to be great at writing about sexism. In hindsight, this (and another part of the article someone else shared) seems to be Laura saying “we’ve found a TERF” without actually saying it, of PJ Harvey.
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@helenstaniland
@davecrossx
Hi Dave. Can you explain it to me if not to Helen. I want to know the process by which Self ID comes into play. Specifically can you summarise whether there are any traits I have right now - as a bearded, heterosexual, 6 ft, male - that would, in your opinion, be a legitimate
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@zoesqwilliams
@kikithorpedo
Zoe do you recognise that dismissing opposing voices as “bots” therefore avoiding having to take them seriously is
A: demonstrably an act of actual dehumanisation
B: the reason you are so out of your depth that you, a journalist, are happy to say out loud “I don’t understand
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@ThePosieParker
@Docstockk
the trans rights movement is entirely reliant on a network of people who recognise that of course *their* mate who identifies is a woman is cool! And we’re just being nice!
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@hatpinwoman
What a lot of people don’t realise is that by the time we all know about someone’s AGP fetish, it’s inherently gone past the point where it is managed appropriately. People are acting like the question is “what does DU have to do to be considered OK here?” but the point is that
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@HJoyceGender
The combination of the two of them was trans activism in a nutshell. One useful idiot who doesn’t understand the activism, slowly being embarrassed by a drunk fuckwit fetishist embodying the issues the useful idiot is trying to say don’t exist. It was perfect.
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@ThePosieParker
@Docstockk
and then treating those who disagree as being mean.
Here’s a thing - if you won’t (rightly) use “she” for a man you don’t know I the basis that an anon vouches for that person, then you don’t get to complain when anons push back when you normalise and perpetuate female pronouns
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@garylfrancione
Can we not do “ultraGC”s? I’d like to answer your question thoughtfully, but I don’t like labels. I just want to think through the questions and talk through my answer
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People cheering Andrew Neil for finally sort of getting it should maybe pause to think of how many times he’s been sent a link to an article written by a woman about one of the issues and decided he can’t be bothered to read it. If he’s on board - great. But he’s late.
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@jamesjammcmahon
@billybragg
@suzanne_moore
Massively impressed by your stance on this stuff James. Crossed paths before on another platform and didn’t always agree but always appreciated your thoughtfulness and readiness to stand against the tide. Not surprising that you’re sound on this, but kudos to you
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@VictoriaPeckham
@DalgetySusan
The language that Jonathan Willoughby uses shows why it’s morally imperative to vocally maintain that he is a man.
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@HJoyceGender
The problem with this though Helen is that we get the policy stuff and the restrictions there. The issue is that Hayton himself is having his cake and eating it. He’s getting plaudits for acknowledging the fetishistic nature of his identity, while handwaving the idea that part
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@dentonuuf
@Mocha_Soul
@janeclarejones
@NormyWolf
@LaLa_Lamp
@not_that_CK
@garylfrancione
@StephanieJaneG6
telling women that they can’t discuss what a trans person is when they are demonstrably trying to redefine what a woman is, is, to say the least, a “little bit cheeky”
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@janeclarejones
@sleeepysandy
@UOzkirimli
@DrLauraFavaro
The frustrating thing though is that this stuff is the *real* exposing of trans activism. Not pranks, not pointing and laughing. Just fact checking and diligence, and chasing up a suspicion that someone is bluffing. If the wider opposition to trans activism actually amplified
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@jamesjammcmahon
Left wing friends/former friends say to me “does it not bother you who you’re aligned with?” and it’s like, the failure of the left to cover this stuff has made me far, bar better at analysing sources, finding the facts within stories, identifying the agenda of the writer etc
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@ThePosieParker
@Docstockk
for the men you have decided that you like or support.
And you really don’t get to lecture anyone, regardless of how high profile you are, unless you are prepared to look properly at the suspicion that Hayton’s wife is being treated shamefully
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What this means is “I will treat rapists as a monstrous other rather than recognising that rape is something more prevalent than i’d like to think”. Its akin to “real men don’t rape”, as opposed to demanding better standards of behaviour from men. Rather than call for
I believe that rapists should receive life behind bars with no possibility of release (and child rapists should receive the death penalty).
I also believe that those accused of rape deserve a fair trial.
These beliefs are not mutually exclusive.
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@femmyneutron
The fact that the story has periods as a crucial plot point is exactly why a male actor who believes he’s a woman wants to play it. It’s colonisation, it’s all about ripping anything female away from the concept of being female.
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@TheGayChrist
@TheFamousArtBR
@LouiseDistras
@IndiaWilloughby
Yes he is. He’s a thick, sexist, balding, insecure man
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@helenstaniland
@davecrossx
reason to say “this person can not self ID as a woman”. On what basis would you rule me out?
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“The fools think that there are only 2 sexes. They’re gonna go mad when they realise how many Lego bricks are in the millennium falcon set, for reasons I can’t go into now but that definitely make me clever”
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@TheCarolineMc
@jey_plus
@Riley_Gaines_
@PinchesLynne
Women have the right to compete against women. The physiological differences are what makes male invasion so egregious, but the principle is that women have the right to associate with other women, excluding men from some spaces. Young girls who play pool do so in a context
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@LouiseDistras
@radio_voodoo
I wonder if the women who enthusiastically support men who say that they are women actually realise how much those men hate them, and how little it would take for those men they validate to turn on them with the same violent misogyny?
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@roseveniceallan
I can’t get past that she asked him to leave but “that crisis passed”. You can’t gloss over that in a serious article. Did they talk it through? Did he leave and get invited back? Or did he refuse to leave?
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This is bizarre. I’m male, and I can say with absolute certainty that if you normalise a focus on women’s responsibility to minimise risk, then the group of people who pose the risk of raping/assaulting women will have this idea reinforced: “women who *do* put themselves in situa
Victim-blaming is terrible. Rapists are solely responsible for what they do. But telling women how better to defend themselves from dangerous men isn’t always victim-blaming.
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@FeministRoar
His entire life is a linguistic word game to make himself feel clever. I’ve genuinely never seen anything to make me believe that he has any other priority in this whole discourse other than to feel like the cleverest person in the room. You can often see that he has more
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@nbrink77
@darkcobrabws
@helenstaniland
@MsVanillaRose
You’re suggesting that male people are not the group overwhelmingly likely to commit sexual offences? That’s rather a strange position to take up. Yes, of course her question is based on the fact that men pose a risk to women. You disagree with her?
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@helensteel12
@void_if_removed
The problem is that they treated “transphobia” as the accusation and “being gender critical” as the evidence. That’s what has now been shown as unsustainable. The game is up
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The issue isn’t whether you can campaign for whatever you wish to. The issue is that those of us with broader left wing politics are not going to shut up about the need for opposition to trans activism needing to be from the left broadly, and from the perspective of feminism
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@janeclarejones
was denying me something rather than actually being really bloody mature in continuing to see me as a friend after I’d made it awkward. It’s so harmful that even 12 year old girls could be cast as the villain by adults, and that nobody with life experience ever sought to tell me
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@HadleyFreeman
@DebbieHayton
He’s not honest though. There’s dishonesty by admission. And there’s a LOT of admission. As a very obvious question; if he’s honest about it being a sexual urge, then what is happening when he’s asking students and colleagues to refer to him as a woman? Is that honesty? And if so
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Billy Bragg is not very intelligent, nor is he very nice.
A realisation I’ve had as I’ve got older is that the Left is a great place to gravitate towards if you’re neither intelligent nor nice, because you can take opinions off the shelf that tell others that you are both
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@transscribe
@JamesEsses
@CostaCoffee
“The self cutting is done on a person, not an arm. And unless that person is you, it’s none of your business”
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Woah there James - maybe Samaritans are assuming Mermaids are A-OK pending due process?
Why on earth are
@samaritans
continuing to signpost vulnerable people to Mermaids - an organisation being investigated by the Charity Commission for major safeguarding concerns?
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@dentonuuf
@Mocha_Soul
@janeclarejones
@NormyWolf
@LaLa_Lamp
@not_that_CK
@garylfrancione
@StephanieJaneG6
Unfortunately for you, the concept of being transgender does itself mean that a group of people who were not female asserted that being female meant something completely different and new, and demanded compliance from female people, so you’ll forgive us for not thinking that men
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@SVPhillimore
@DreyfusJames
@Seuss420Michael
Trans activism needs to dehumanise the people it disagrees with. It can not ever, ever admit to any opponent doing so in good faith, because the strength of our arguments + them not being fuelled by hatred is something trans activism can not counter in the slightest. Smears
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@janeclarejones
I don’t have children, but if I could give any advice to boys of 10 years and over, it’d be this: having friends of the opposite sex is maybe the single best thing you can do to enrich your life and be more likely to experience life in a rounded way. Being friends with girls is
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people feel entitled to make demands, while female people are pressures to make concessions? Why is it that breasts on a trans man apparently cause dysphoria while a penis on a trans woman is only a problem for the women who don’t want to see it?
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@janeclarejones
At school, at 11 years old, I remember *really* fancying a girl who sat on my table. Proper all consuming, and what I imagined love felt like. I asked her out when I was 12, and she said no. I was a quiet, awkward kid, and she and her friend were good friends to me - between the
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@IndiaWilloughby
@FondOfBeetles
@KatyMontgomerie
@Martina
You’re not actually very bright, are you India?
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Imagine being this stupid.
@Martina
was accused of being “too masculine” by homophobes who didn’t see lesbians as real women. Now, Martina argues against homophobes who think that feminine men aren’t real men. Her stance is entirely consistent, as long as you actually think about
When I was young, Martina Navratilova was accused of being too “butch and muscled” to compete against “normal women.” It was vile.
Now she’s bullying trans folk for being too “butch and muscled” to compete against “normal women.” Still vile.
The bullied become bullies.
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@billybragg
@BBC
Billy Bragg once again embarrassing himself by taking a stance on a specific issue about which he has not bothered to understand the first thing. You’re an intellectual coward who doesn’t understand what he’s supporting nor what he’s opposing. What a disappointment
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@janeclarejones
invite the weird kid to go swimming with her and her mate as being “friendzoned” rather than saying to me “do you realise how lucky you are to have female friends who look out for you like this?”
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@janeclarejones
the simple truth that if someone doesn’t fancy me, that’s fine.
I worked it out by myself, but it’s so scary that 12 year old me would have access to communities that would reinforce a sense of entitlement, resentment, that would frame her pretty amazing commitment to still
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@AndieforIndie
@helenstaniland
@muichimotsu
Because, fundamentally, the right to self ID as the opposite sex isn’t a “trans right” - it’s a right that by definition is held by everybody. So the actual thing you’re calling for is this - all men have the right to be accepted as women if they say they are women.
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@helenstaniland
@EREK_ONLY
I see that “believe women” is again a principle easily dismissed when the woman is making an assertion about a man wearing a dress
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@teaforpterosaur
@janeclarejones
Note that he seems to be a-OK with reaching conclusions before due process has taken place in other contexts.
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@billybragg
@JoPhoenix1
@iamjimmyo
You’ve spent god knows how long calling women “anti trans activists” and then when Jo substantively takes you to task, all you can do is complain that she implied that she believes you’re a sexist prick?
You really are a lightweight.
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I wonder if Billy Bragg also thinks that women’s black eyes suggest that they must have said something to warrant it?
Gender ideology is a great way of being able to see which men only recognise misogyny when it’s beneficial to them to recognise it, when it comes in easily
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Telling a male child that men who wear dresses are perverts, creates a sense of shame in male children who want to wear dresses. That sense of shame doesn’t stop a child from wanting wear that dress; it just makes him think that wanting to wear it is wrong. Guess what happens
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@janeclarejones
said “it’s rare that someone fancies you back, don’t worry about it, she’s your friend”, instead said a variation of “faint heart never won fair maiden”. In hindsight, I never properly enjoyed having great friends who looked out for me because I was too busy looking for signs
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@KaliaTheShep
@helenstaniland
Hey - I fully support your desire for third spaces. I applaud your recognition that a third space would allow male people who identify as women to avoid male spaces without impacting women. Where do I sign up to help you? And can I just make sure that you’ve run this by other
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@CharlieQuinn121
@TheFamousArtBR
It never ceases to amaze me how trans activist arguments are always so utterly superficial. How is it that as soon as I saw this fool saying “terfs approved of genocide” I knew that what actually happened was “someone said ‘no’”?
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“Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences”
“Consequences” are the “cost”. If a thing has a cost, it’s not free. By all means advocate for the limitations you believe it’s reasonable to place on speech, and the costs that such speech should incur. You might have a good
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@j4ppleby
The most amazing thing to me is that some people have clearly done the mental gymnastics: “aaah but some men wants tits because their SOULS have tits”
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@nbrink77
@EREK_ONLY
@roisenav
@darkcobrabws
@helenstaniland
@MsVanillaRose
Ah, you’ve now stepped over the line from bad faith interpretation of an obvious point within an argument, to libel. You have one hour to retract your comment or I will be instructing my lawyer.
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@garylfrancione
he is setting himself apart from *every other man”, and deciding, with no evidence, that his sense of self is akin to that of the *group* “women” is in itself evidence of reducing women to a stereotype; in all of “men” he can find nothing that accommodates him. But the concept
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know that there are people who start to question trans ideology, sometimes unexpectedly. It makes no sense to treat people as lost causes/the enemy when they’re clearly ill informed/ignorant. Leave the personal attacks to the trans activists. Consider that to the casual observer,
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seem to recognise that female people identifying as men are subject to the same old pressures to modify their bodies to conform to expectations? Why does she not proudly frame her trans allyship as one that celebrates the unmodified bodies of female people just as proudly as she
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@TeelaWild
@helenstaniland
“Your kids must be embarrassed at your social media activity” says person whose bio advertises being a big fan of kink
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@tablefloor
@blablafishcakes
@MrMennoTweets
@GuduleMartens
@KatyMontgomerie
Sam it’s OK to say “I don’t understand this subject”
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like it or not, sticking up for men and having a go at a female “national treasure” doesn’t actually look great. Let Kathy have her opinions, maybe post links to stuff she might benefit from reading. But pretending “I’ve always thought she was shit” is stupid as hell, and is
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celebrates the unmodified bodies of male people? Is she really blind to the clear and obvious gender norms of “male people are fine as they are, female people need to change to fit in”?
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@Comrade_Lols
No it won’t. It’s weird that you think that the number of “sexes” in mushrooms will melt brains when you fail to even recognise that there are two sexes in all mammals. Are you by any chance an incredibly stupid person?
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@KatyMontgomerie
@FondOfBeetles
@Martina
@IndiaWilloughby
You lack ovaries for the same reason I lack ovaries; we aren’t female. Lacking ovaries because we are not female is an entirely different issue to lacking ovaries while being female. You don’t need protection from misogynistic sexism because, like me, any sexism you experience
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@hatpinwoman
by his own admission, his fetish has set fire to his family life. He’s a cautionary tale to men who think they might have AGP that they need to get professional help, and if they respect the women in their lives, need to actively support their partners to be free to make their
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@janeclarejones
where I’ve drawn no distinction between “the lads” and “female friends”.
But at the time… EVERY message I received from family and friends around me was that her not fancying me back was a flaw in *her*, and something that I shouldn’t let put me off. Every person who should have
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@IndiaWilloughby
@FondOfBeetles
@KatyMontgomerie
@Martina
That tweet makes it look like you measure degrees of femaleness by whether a woman is lesbian or heterosexual. Is that what you mean when you claim that you are more female than Martina Navratilova? That seems rather homophobic to me
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every other context but in relation to trans issues, suddenly can’t see why women are at risk from members of my sex?
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@janeclarejones
that she might recognise that actually she fancies me back. I’m so relieved that even then I was instinctively aware that it was better to have her as a friend than to demand she see me otherwise. But the messaging around me still had an impact - it still had me thinking she
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Male people are the problem. And the specific issue *with* men who believe they are women is that people like yourself seek to categorise them as *not* posing the same risk as male people, thus giving that subset of male people a casual exemption from being perceived as a risk
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@KnownHeretic
@garylfrancione
I wish well meaning men who say stuff like that would just focus on what the phrase “living as female” conjures up in their heads. When a man says “living as female”, is he thinking of women playing in the World Cup this morning? Is he thinking of lower pay? Is he thinking of
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@roseveniceallan
such as “is it not your responsibility to manage your fetish privately, and if it is fetishistic is it not inappropriate to live it during your political activism and in a professional context?” Is considered beyond the pale?
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