Leeahd Goldberg
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Artist For painting inquiries please DM No NFT's or AI art, if you see my art as NFT it's stolen. He/him/they/them. My opinions are my own.
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I have to say I might have to swallow my pride on the the whole AI art thing, I mean look at this. It really is amazing to think I could make art like this using this tool. And no I will not share my personal prompts and let you all steal from my hard work
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not linking to not give engagement. ethics of genAi aside, the amount of time and work this guy puts in to making mediocre work and arguing with people, he could just learn to draw.
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@EmilyMeganX
it's a fine line. I know some people will be too quick or unfamiliar with Franks work
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@LiquidZulu
@shoe0nhead
the ai is trained on 5 billion internet scrapped images. They didn't ask permission and took a ton of copyrighted materials. The data the ai trains on is an integral part of the program. They didn't train it on royalty free because it would be hard and the ai wouldn't be as good
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@adamconover
I painted this in support of the
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9x12 oil paint on paper
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@rhipratchett
I painted this tribute of your dad 1 of my favorite authors. I hope you don't mind me tweeting it 2 you
http://t.co/5sO05QMgex
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@ZakugaMignon
they aren't arguing in good faith, it's just a talking point. Only gatekeepers in art is yourself. Getting a job in an art industry isn't gatekeeping either it's just hard. Children draw. Being "good" isn't gatekeeping, it's work, work they don't want to do
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@kortizart
honestly I'm shocked you beat them to it. Getty is usually very litigious and protective of their images
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this a small 6x9 painting. I was so happy with it when I finished it and I still am. I hope you like it
#oilpainting
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@katriaraden
My understanding is they're going to release nightshade as open source which is fantastic but that means we also have to be careful what other sources we get it from
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@SydSteyerhart
@shadmbrooks
"....without effort." You forgot to add that at the end. everyone who is able bodied and most disabled people as well can experience the joy of creating art. Whether or not they think it's aesthetic is up to them, they can always practice and improve if they want.
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when ripping off one artists gets stale. if this was just an inspiration board sharing artists that would be great but it feels more like a hit list on SD reddit because of the implications
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@EpicArtFail
Yeah I unfollowed and unsubscribed from him over all of that and lost all respect for him and his brother honestly who I also unfollowed.
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@tintanega
ethics of the ai aside, as far as the users, I'm conflicted. In away these people so badly want to be artists, are clueless as to the process of actually making art and lack the dedication to become an artists on the other hand their attitude feels so devaluing as an artist
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I won first place in
@JerrysArtarama
self portrait competition for 2021. I didn't post about it because I wasn't very active on twitter at the time. I am still very honored and grateful. The other contestants are fantastic artists and this years artists are just as good
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@CorridorDigital
Funny but what if
@CorridorDigital
used their huge platform to reach out to some smaller art youtubers that are Making their own content or projects and promote them or colab with them to help their project like
@djaxx
who is solo animating a movie that looks amazing
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@GlynnTarrant
I never understood people stealing art or taking credit for others work. Why would I ever want to claim that as my own, the whole point is to MAKE my own art.
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@TFMsaad
@wickedinsignia
I was thinking something similar All the artists I know have no problem helping other artists and showing them techniques or teaching them They may charge for it because of their time but there's no secret techniques to anything so they're happy to do it
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@clarkesworld
I did a quick wire mesh to show the shape of the collar. the front part doesn't match the sides and the sides don't entirely match each other. not saying that no artist could make a mistake but combined with the hair melting into the collar
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I can really see how prompting makes you an artists, the close connection between the two is self evident. 🤯🔫
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@shadmbrooks
I never said that, I said it's theft and you take ownership of things you haven't made. The taped banana is just a what aboutism argument. You're promoting using an exploitative program so you're getting push back. you want to talk bananas and conceptual art? Maybe listen artists
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@arvalis
@CombosDoodles
@arvalis
is right, here is his original drawing and ai image that he says he feels ownership over because he had to photoshop it together from many ai image results
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@bradcolbow
their prices are so out of wack. I'm sure it's amazing but unless you absolutely need all the features it has you are likely able to find something for a third or less that will do the job. Buying cheaper also lets you upgrade more easily when there is new tech that warrants it
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@ZakugaMignon
I'm always frustrated on Pinterest when there isn't a link back to the artist because I've used Pinterest to discover artists but then I have to do a Google image search and go through some websites and so on and so forth until I actually find the artist
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@meganroseruiz
ethics aside, this is stupid. We already have words for all these.
Just doing prompts- User or customer
Editing images after -retoucher
Combining images and painting over - photobashing
And so on, we already have the words for it, they just don't like them
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@meganroseruiz
The thing is it doesn't even matter how good or bad it looks because of how it was made. I'm really surprised by other creatives that revel in exploration and elimination of other creatives work
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@LaurenWalshArt
@LevelUpPup
I think the term tech bro indicates more an attitude and way of acting than what you do for work. There are tech bros that don't even work in the tech industry but they idolize technology
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@LaurenWalshArt
no one shouldn't have to "pass" to use a bathroom. Pregnant woman can have access facial hair, certain treatments can do that too. There are women are bodybuilders. underwear checkers now? If someone's being creepy in the bathroom, it's a problem, otherwise leave people alone
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@CoreyBrickley
@MadLutian
I wish it was developed ethically and made as a tool rather than a replacement because it can be a fantastic reference machine especially if you are comping things together to make reference for something that doesn't exist
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@shadmbrooks
Ai art is absolutely theft, it just steals behind the scenes so you don't perceive it. If they didn't need © material, they wouldn't keep using it. Your arguments are just wrong. As an artist/writer how don't you see it as unethical? Then again you feel ownership over this so...
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I'm making longer vids 4 YouTube. Questions welcomed, I need something to talk about in my vids.
Inspired by Nicolas Uribeb "spoken word painting" I tried to evoke his style...did I succeeded? Regardless super happy with it.
6x8 oil on canvasboard. It's available Dm if interested
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@JoelCHoltzman
there is no tangible deference between entering in a prompt and doing a google search. You would have no way of knowing if the image the ai returned was from the internet or not. Clearly you didn't make anything in that scenario
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@Orugario_
It took my brain a solid minute to get around this one. I know sketches don't look like this I know this is the look of a filter and my brain just couldn't square the two as if there's anybody on the planet that would think that looks like a sketch
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@pehdrigues
Anytime Shad has anything to say, we should remind him of the fantom baby hand when he claims heaps of manual edits.
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@katriaraden
@bright_lightart
Katria a quick investigation into this person will tell you all you need to know. They call themselves an NFT artists sell mostly in NFT markets and good luck finding any hand made art of theirs (I'm including digital illustration)
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@ZakugaMignon
all the people chirping on the subreddit are clueless to art industry or copyright or licensing and so on. Almost every single time I talk to some one who is knowledgeable on the subject they are horrified by the state of things
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@JoJoesArt
Yeah this is gross. The vitriol they have! Trying to punish artists that speak out against ai is gross and only reenforces the negative image in people's mind
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@GeorgeCrudo
He could replaced the ai with an artist, would that be his art? of course not. I don't understand how anyone can take pride in an ai generated image
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@EpicArtFail
@AaronBlaiseArt
has nothing but good intentions and love for artists. He is on the side of artists. I think he wants to see the best in people. I don't know if he realizes how toxic and detrimental ML infringing data sets already are to many artists and will be going forward
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@EpicArtFail
@CorridorDigital
Since they don't seem to mind exploiting people I wonder how they would feel if a bunch of channels started ripping their content and posting it for free on YouTube?
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My first attempt at a varnish pour video 🤷 let me know if you think it was successful. This painting was a quick painting a did live on stream as a surprise for a viewers birthday.
If you want hang out while I paint live, check out my twitch channel
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@PatrickTOsborne
Every time they talk about how AI will help artists and free them up to do more work it just seems like it's going to take the fun part of the job and stick artists with really annoying tedious parts of the job. It's almost as if they've never consulted with artists about this
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The first in a small series of limited hue paintings.
Limited hue is the term I came up with because they aren't monochrome.
This painting is available. It's 9x12 on yupo.
I painted this live on twitch. Come hang out with me while I paint!
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@katriaraden
@andrewpprice
Andrew this comes off either disingenuous or ill informed. Corridor crew didn't use an ethical model they used stable diffusion. Yes they hired someone for one of their vids but its still SD. they just ripped vampire D for the other. I have yet to see a model done ethically
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so tired of all the BS AI arguments. Here's a palate cleanser. This is my most recent painting. A friend of mine modeled for me. This is a 12x12 oil on acm panel. In my paintings I strive for mood and atmosphere. I'm influenced by music that evokes feeling without a clear story
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@ChrisShehanArt
great analogy! I think we modify the language we use. The person giving the prompts is the customer, the program(AI) is the service/product, the program is built on a data set trained on other peoples work and the company does this to make money with no regard for the artists
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@EMostaque
every time you address artists or people concerned you show just how disingenuous you are and it's backed up by your actions. You aren't coming at this in good faith. Nothing you have said, tweeted or done, that I've seen, shows you have any genuine concern for artists
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@MagnusVesper
@neutronjockey
@SamuelDeats
you are failing to recognizing that the program is the product not just the images it produces. So when they made the program they made it with artists work without asking or compensating, the program can't make images without the art. I can learn from observing the real world
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@GlynnTarrant
bill gates is a horrible person that hides behind philanthropy and uses it to wash his image. No one should be listening to him. If we had a just system he would probably be in jail or fined into the ground but at the very least investigated
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@alex_kuhn_art
I totally feel this. It can feel all consuming especially when you go online and find all these people with such distain for artists. I have been dealing with depression for a long time before ai but it's not helping. I've been getting ketamine treatment and that is helping 🙂🫶
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@SamuelDeats
Yeah they lost me as a viewer and supporter. They gave a wink and a node to the issues with it and then just steamrolled right over it as if that was good enough
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@ceno02
@GregGearArt
But his brother is a YouTuber first. It won't impact him if ai is trained on his style or takes away art jobs because he's an entertainer first
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@RakasaDemon
I think this is a fantastic idea. Re clipdrop there accusation going around that they take artwork and turn it into NFTs or something. I haven't looked into it to verify but I would research it more before using it
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@FlyIngenuity
It's Hebrew. It's the word love broken in 2 like if you wrote it in English you have lo on top of ve
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@saltybretzel
This is great to demonstrate how it affects an image thank you. It's worth mentioning that aside from when doing a demo no one should mention that they use nightshade or glaze on any particular image
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@kortizart
something I think gets over looked is that it's not just artists. Its models, fashion designers, photographers and small businesses and private individuals, they used images of all those people and more. Doesn't seam right
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@GlynnTarrant
@hailiiz
OMG right? Like if I could enchant my paintbrushs to paint for me, why would I ever do that! It's no different that hiring someone to paint for me. I want to paint with my own hands. I love other artists! I buy artwork from other artists but I want to make my own art
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Ok so it looks like the problem is
@Googlevoice
I can't send or receive. Texts from my GV on my phone or via the Web client.
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@MarcoStefan6
@SydSteyerhart
@shadmbrooks
we aren't arguing what art is. You were so excited to get a dunk, you didn't bother reading the convo
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New painting "Amanda" was so much fun to paint. I went in just playing & experimenting sure I was going to wipe it at the end but so happy with it! I was trying to channel Nicolás Uribe with this one.
This painting Is Available, DM if interested. 10x8 oil paint on moleskin
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Purple haze, this was a lot of fun to paint & also very challenging. In my quest to achieve a more subtle and dream like effect I've been painting much more limited value paintings.
This piece is available, dm if interested.
8x10 oil on yupo
Painted live
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Someone made a tool that generates random letters/symbols to feed to midjourney. Not calling out the person, its interesting. My point is, it really highlights how the program/programmers are doing all the work and the user is just playing a kind of image generator game
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@PxelSlayer
You're right but honestly I pity those people. Anyone who has made art, gains from the experience. I've never heard anyone regret making art with their hands and in turn value others creations. What they are telling me with comments like this is, they are to pathetic too even try
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So tired of the discourse online right now. It's needed but exhausting. Here is some Art I made, with my own hands, in the real world (no shade towards digital artists). Regardless of the results making art is so fulfilling, I think everyone should do it.
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@EpicArtFail
@shadmbrooks
but clearly the only thing that matters is the people using the program not the people exploited in the making of it or the people it will hurt.
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@CoreyBrickley
It's beyond easy to use, you can literally input random letters/symbols and it will generate something
Someone made a tool that generates random letters/symbols to feed to midjourney. Not calling out the person, its interesting. My point is, it really highlights how the program/programmers are doing all the work and the user is just playing a kind of image generator game
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@shadmbrooks
oh it's medical program. So they worked with doctors or disabled people to develop it? What kind of ease of access does it have for people with bad Eyesite? What about dyslexic people? This is asinine. People with disabilities aren't inherently unethical? Current ai models are
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@MAiJiNTHEARTIST
I wish they had developed it as a tool. Content aware fill in Photoshop is a very useful tool. There are so many ways that they could take the technology and develop it but they just went for straight up replacement because they're unimaginative
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@stillgray
this is asinine. You are comparing art style to one another and assigning a value to one over the other. Also the ai made those images because artists already made images that are very similar to that. They scraped artists work, so it says artists were exploited
#CreateDontScrape
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@meganroseruiz
Some peoples advocacy for ai images and attitude towards artists is depressing. I'm of the mind that it's not worth arguing with them I don't think you can change their minds. We can work towards legislation to help protect artists. As it is we are undervalued by most of socity
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@arvalis
they missed a point in the cons section, the ai was generated on the back of artists, photographers, designers, small business, private individuals and more using their information, work property without getting permission. I think that is a big con and a negative
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I'm not on artstation but since I saw people also sharing this on twitter, I thought I'd join in
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@rodrigolima
I think the value in traditional art and digital art isn't the same because we don't interact with it the same so they fill different areas but I think they are both valuable. Personally I do digital for work but I love painting in oils
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@kyletwebster
If you enter random gibberish letters/number in midjourney it'll still produce an image, often featuring a person/woman and esthetically pleasing image because its tuned on the back end. The prompts are a vague guide and it looks good because they are taking from the best artists
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@USClaireForce
art has always been democratized, especially with all the free content on youtube. "AI" is corporatization of art production, regulating creators to users
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@CyrilCoste
Absolutely not. Currently all of the Ai image generators are built on stolen property. If you have to do an image search after using ai image generators to see if the program copied someone without your knowledge clearly you didn't make anything.
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@ZakugaMignon
That's actually a cool idea. Take the yt shorts model but apply it to images almost like Instagram but with monetization. You could upload high resolution images and people could zoom in and enjoy the details. Combine that with a Pinterest style boards to save your favs to
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