Chris Lee 이종철
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Korean American. DEI is my main hustle, pastoring is my side hustle. Co-host @HorrorLabPod .
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Anti-blackness is still so palpable and prevalent in the Korean community, especially in churches. We’ll consume Black music, language, culture, fashion but reject Black people. Not confronting this has been a serious missed opportunity in the past few years.
32 years ago today, Latasha Harlins,15, was fatally shot by a Korean shop owner, Soon Ja Du, over a bottle of orange juice, it became a major spark for the 1992 Los Angeles Riots.
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Your posts helped me get out of a bout with depression because learning how to dress has helped me to enjoy going outside while being myself. Thank you! (Always looking constipated though.)
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Christianity bloomed across Africa and Asia, long before Western missionaries assumed world evangelization was their destiny.
Here is the Nestorian or Xi’an Stele, erected in 781, a thousand years before Hudson Taylor’s birth, documenting 150 years of the early Church in China
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When I’m feeling sad, I always turn to this video for gospel joy.
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@dieworkwear
Thank you 🫠. The cardigan is Engineered Garments. Yes, it’s a Tory leather belt. I picked one up after reading one of your article.
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In light the publications of Jesus and John Wayne and The Making of Biblical Womanhood, I straight up don’t know what books on marriage to recommend anymore.
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Pastors don’t have to yell or curse at someone to be an abusive person. Unsafe people can still run over people to get what they want, all with a veneer of politeness and smiles.
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I’m a bivocational evangelical pastor whose full-time job is in Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI).
99% of the ppl who hate DEI have probably never bothered to read up on DEI at all.
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@ScottAniol
Lol If you lived before a certain time period, it wouldn’t even occur to you to sing hymns in English because Christianity hadn’t reached England yet.
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If you do your exegesis properly, you’ll find out that the word for flee in Matt 2:13 is φεῦγε, from which the word refugee is derived 🤦🏻♂️
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@Chuck__da__kid
@dieworkwear
I’ve been lamenting that I thought bean boots were ugly and missed out on the chance of buying them at the LL bean flagship when I lived in NE.
I hope your coworker gets soaked in the subway by the leaking rainwater.
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Idk a lot about Covenant Seminary but this dude makes it sound like a dope place to study.
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Wasn’t expecting this to blow up… but hello! I work in DEI and moonlight as a pastor. I also write. As a Korean American & Christian, I’ve descended from cultures impacted by white supremacy, and bc of that, I’m learning now to pursue justice. I also throw a lot of shade✌️
Anti-blackness is still so palpable and prevalent in the Korean community, especially in churches. We’ll consume Black music, language, culture, fashion but reject Black people. Not confronting this has been a serious missed opportunity in the past few years.
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@colinsmo
Maybe because respected academics are invited to share their expertise in different kinds of spaces?
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@scottcrowdr
@AdamJSchwarz
@bbcquestiontime
You should watch it again because at the very end, Peterson affirms the ethnicity difference while comments that the IQ difference b/w genders is trivial.
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@Phil_Johnson_
God is simple, and therefore he is not the sum of all his parts, as this article claims. His holiness, wrath, justice, and love are all expressed in unison. Ortlund clearly expresses this in his book, especially God’s particular grace to the repentant. Terrible review.
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A thread: It’s an utterly ridiculous job requirement that lead pastors (or any top leadership position) have to be visionary leaders. 1/
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Not to toot my own horn but as a good Gordon Connell student that was trained to write an exegesis paper for each sermon, my big idea for a sermon Luke 19 during seminary was that “Repentance comes from a place of acceptance, not shame.”
Exegesis is important. And life saving.
It's amazing that people will straight up lie about the Bible and then accuse me of being dishonest.
Jesus accepted all three of those people BEFORE they repented. In fact, he NEVER tells Zacchaeus or the woman at the well to repent or stop sinning. He loved and accepted them
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@RevKevDeYoung
I’ve noticed that you ask consistently that we should dialogue together, but as a public figure, you don’t seem to dialogue outside reformed evangelicalism. The sheer volume of abuse cases in the US church should make us reconsider “dispassionate” and “nuanced” arguments
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This is a conversation we need to have in the Asian American community because it’s a very real problem. My black friends from seminary have observed this at our school
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While everyone debates turkey, my mom decided we’ll be having fish tonight lol
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Here’s my edit
Not only are these obviously not incompatible, but if you don't believe the column on the left entails the column on the right then you really shouldn't claim either.
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If white evangelicalism followed historic Church tradition, we would not use:
1. the Great Commission as a foundational text for missions.
2. penal substitutionary atonement as the primary framework for understanding the Crucifixion. 1/
Railing against "white evangelicalism" is often just a subtle way to rail against historic Christian theology.
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@PastorBenMarsh
We called the person responsible for the overhead projector "The Minister of Light."
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Maybe if these white pastors had worked actual jobs, where professionalism is demanded and got out of their ivory towers, they’d have an inkling of how historically, groups did not have access to advancement & higher salary, let alone accommodations & employment.
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@between2worlds
@TGC
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.”
Murdering civilians is wrong, but so is hating your enemy.
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@colinsmo
Wait but Jesus commands the apostles to abandon their families and follow him. So it’s okay for men to walk out on their families?
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White evangelicals who lack cultural intelligence shouldn’t write a review that misrepresents a film that at its heart is an intimate look into the East Asian immigrant family.
‘Everything Everywhere All at Once’ wants a subjective basis for values like love and kindness, but it needs an objective one. It’s haunted by the objectivity it denies.
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@Tyler_A_Harper
That’s interesting. Wonder if books like Toni Morrison’s The Bluest Eye would also be rejected by college students for its graphic depictions of rape and incest as well.
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@TGC
This article is terrible. Really, kindness and love can’t be grounded objectively apart from God? Did the writers not see that Jobu’s nihilism is a metaphor for Joys depression? There’s not even a single mention about how this story unfolds from the Asian immigrant perspective.
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Sure we don’t do ministry for the money, but for a lot of us who are no longer vying for full time ministry jobs and barely have life savings…
It truly feels like the Church has robbed us.
Of opportunities, of our futures.
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Also, I just finished
@TravelingNun
’s book and I’ve been recommending it to friends. The church needs to confront and repent of its homophobia/transphobia, friends. We must do better, then stop using homophobia to gaslight and label our relatives in Christ as heretics.
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Also are pastors really qualified to do premarital counseling? I feel like that’s something we should outsource
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@eugenepkim2
I’ve been thinking about this a lot, ty for articulating it so well. Entire industries within evagelicalism seem to hinge upon specific interpretations of select verse (e.g. global missions and Matt 28), that believing otherwise would really shatter their reality
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DEI isn’t about forcing you to change your beliefs. It’s driven by the idea that you should love your neighbor as yourself, and the idea that everyone should be treated with dignity, and made aware of & have access to the opportunities to succeed in the workplace.
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Wouldn’t we want as a requirement social and emotional intelligence, rather than “visionary leadership” so that someone is there for us when our lives are falling apart, instead of figuring out “the future”? 5/
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@owlingalley
Quotation marks are used when you’re copying the words verbatim btw. Not misrepresentations of what you think someone said.
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That’s because evangelicals will often mix up charismatic vs. visionary leadership. Two totally different things… End/
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Learning that holiness isn’t merely the absence of certain behaviors or desires but the presence of mercy and justice in the Christian’s life. Sure, I can pray or keep my anger in check on the daily, but am I loving my neighbors as myself?
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Who are the great American theologians and why are they all women Episcopalian priests?
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@korinreid
It’s so humiliating to do that to your child in front of everyone watching and then laughing at you.
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Good leaders don’t always have to be visionaries but they’ll know how to manage and listen to the visionaries on their team. 3/
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I’d rather have a lead pastor who manages the strengths/weaknesses of his team and works with them, not works them like assistants. 4/
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Can you imagine how entrenched in your fundamentalism you must be that everyone is pretty much an enemy?
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Did folks really not know Jackson Wu is white? I don’t think he’s really tried to hide that fact.
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My pastor once said fiction doesn't count as real books. Only reading theology and non-fiction does a great disservice to the pastor. It's the equivalent of cooking without salt and spices. Prose and poetry help words skip like happy cows in green meadows. 1/
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@sheilagregoire
I feel like it’s that way even at seminaries… husbands spending hours at the library, wives having to raise children, give birth to more children, take on part time jobs.
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@confessinmill
People tend to ignore how formative Bonhoeffer's time in Harlem was. And he actually borrowed that terminology of cheap grace from his black pastor.
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Once white people find out I'm Korean, they giddy and ask me if I like bulgogi.
PSA - bulgogi is the Korean version of meatloaf for dinner. It's not a dish you get excited about.
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Too often, leads who are “visionaries” will pull the “my way or the highway” card because they clearly see the future and the rest of us don’t. 2/
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W/ helpful reddit advice, I asked adjuster to look at tire damage & footage of my mom walking from our home, AFTER the other car already stopped. Her deductible is being returned & she won't be liable at all! that guy is probably gna lose his insurance tho.
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Finally, how visionary can a pastor actually be, really? Adding a 2nd service? Adding a new ministry for social gatherings? Hiring a token POC on staff bc they realize the importance of diversity? When I think of visionary, I think Tesla, Miyake, Mandela. 6/
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Reading Jackson Wu’s review of a Just Mission is making me sick to my stomach, and the fact that he doubles down in his addendum is infuriating. The whole thing is as racist as hell.
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Why is the lead pastor often expected to be a visionary leader?
All church staff could use at least 1 forward-thinking person, but it doesn't always have to be the lead. Sometimes, it's even better if the lead pastor is just a really great shepherd.
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@ChristnNitemare
Out of the entire Bible, only knowing Proverbs 5-7 isn't really in anyone's arsenal I think. What a weird thing to boast about, and what a gross way to describe a woman.
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White evangelical attempts at racial justice in the last few years were doomed to fail, and they will always fail bc their m.o. for literally everything is: preach more sermons about racial justice. Write books! More conferences! More podcasts! 1/
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@poorlyreasoned
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I think Gavin is just being racist and picking out a random Asian guy.
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My wife and I wondered how we got by the last several years when we made so little money. God’s faithfulness and a boatload of credit card debt 😂
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Great news: we finally moved into our new apartment! Thank you for checking in and praying for us.
Bad news: our furniture that was supposed to arrive in december will not arrive in march! No winning!
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Structured hiring, heritage celebrations, reverse mentoring, accessibility, employment for people with disabilities, older folks, and veterans, career development, salary and advancement transparency. Y’all see any CRT there? No? Yeah, there’s no boogeyman here.
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John Brown’s anti-racism was rooted in his Christian beliefs. There is never a reason to excuse enslavers like Edward or Whitefield as men of their times.
This man is a pretty good litmus test for politics - do you regard him with
respect or disgust
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@emmalouiseri
I'm getting really tired of these word of faith people holding worship services that take attention away from the real issue and offering a spiritual opioid instead. This is peak whiteness.
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This is such a dope thread on penal substitutionary atonement, whether you hold to it or not. Kyle breaks down dense theological concepts in everyday language.
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@bonhoefferchild
The fact that he thinks this is an insult to the authors and not to the white evangelicalism he’s apart of is really sad
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@JonathanLeeman
Skilled exegetes know that biblical interpretations of passages fluctuate over time. For over 1800 years, Matthew 28:18-20 was neither called the Great Commission nor the basis of the church’s mission. History is absolutely necessary for exegesis.
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Becoming more like Jesus requires us to understand that the gospel is very political. Jesus’ vision of his new creation reverses injustices and loves on the least of these. Growing in Christ-likeness will mean investing more and more of our time towards justice.
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@ymmayer
I learned this in grad school. Asian people don’t always ask questions but yt people don’t hesitate asking the dumbest questions imaginable
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@drantbradley
It could be the fact our culture says not to disrupt the peace at all costs. It might be b/c this is all we know and we're afraid. But having closely seen what goes on at white evangelical spaces/seminaries, this Asian can say I'm done with all of that ✌️
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Back in
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7: my slumlords won’t call us back until Tuesday… while mold grows in our apt (water damage in every room, wall, ceiling). No attempt to contact us or provide us temporary housing. Can’t keep our 1 year old in that apt
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Hi new followers! I’m a diversity specialist and young adult pastor in NYC. I tweet a lot of cranky nonsense, along with thoughts on justice, the Church, culture, and missions. I have a dry and bleak sense of humor but I also cry watching Disney movies.
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Finished my sermon manuscript at 3am in the morning.
Preached twice.
Post-church nap from 3pm to 6pm.
Ready to go to bed again.
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Why do evangelical institutions tend to say “unprecedented” or “unusual,” when they do the right thing?
Not only is it manipulative, it shows that they didn’t really care about doing the right thing until backed into a corner.
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No turkey, just Korean bbq this year with a very nice Bordeaux-style blend.
Mama!
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As a pastor, I do not get upset if you show up 10 mins late to service or leave 5 mins early, or haven't attended in 6 months. You reek of smoke? So what? I will not yell at you or start drama because it is not Christlike. I am just glad that you are here.
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I think it's sad that the first question so many people in churches have about books that verge from their faith tradition is "Is it biblical?" That's such an anemic and sad and dull way to live.
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Christians have espoused abolition for over 1000 years by the time the Puritans came along. The "people of their time" argument is as farcical as it is lazy.
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Thread: When you joke about race, you need to punch up and not punch down. I feel like when
#AAPI
comedians joke about race, it's often at our expense: funny accents, oppressive cultural expectations. It's often really funny, but are white people laughing with us, or at us? 1/
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"Luke was a naughty boy by not giving penal substitution enough air time!" Never thought I'd LOL reading a systematic theology. Wish more theologians would write like
@mbird12
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@PastorTrey05
I believe the same principles apply to white evangelicals insistence that the great commission is the primary mission of the church, when the concept is no where to be found in the Bible and only became popularized in the 1800s. They really think their way is the standard
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@pastorshanshan
My therapist told me that wanting to punch people in the throat is not a thought that naturally comes to people. I was like what do you mean that people never think about that?
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I’ve been flustered trying to communicate in Korea. Wondering how rusty my Korean has gotten, I asked my wife what she thought. She replied: “you’re always flustered, even when you speak English.” 😭
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