Spencer Quain
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Local government enthusiast. Geographer. Urbanist. YIMBY Provo. Post-Mo
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As a Geography undergrad, i just had to have a go at it.
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Kinda feel cheated that the Mormon Church has all this money and they won’t even spend it on interesting artwork/architecture. At least when the Catholic Church was super wealthy and corrupt we got stuff like the Sistine Chapel out of it
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Once a year Mormons get really mad about being portrayed as weird, as if every Mormon doesn’t have a cousin living in a compound in Challis, Idaho who believes the US government is running concentration camps for white people
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I am continually shocked at how many people’s parents bought their homes for them.
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My family doing family history
“We don’t know why our family in Colonial New York moved to Canada in 1781, their are no other records”
Me being an insufferable history know-it-all “Yeah, I am 90% confident I know why they moved”
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Take me to church (but only to the Arctic Cathedral, Tromsø Norway)
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I don’t go to church any more, and I don’t even live here anymore (visiting for the Holidays), but I somehow got roped into cleaning the church building next weekend
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You have not seen a gerrymander until you have seen mormon ward boundaries
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Me gathering church leaders in a huddle:
“Look, Parley P Pratt did not get murdered by his 12th wife’s ex-husband for all of you to teach traditional marriage and the nuclear family as the one and only way to reach heaven”
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Connecting the dots that when Utah Mormons complain about “Californians” taking over their neighborhood, they really are complaining about non-mormons/exmos taking over their neighborhood, since their complaint is that they don’t know their neighbors since they don’t go to church
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The LDS church should just go wild and bring back the option to get sealed to 5 of your best friends just cause
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You are excited for Salt Lake City to host the Winter Olympics so you can watch sports
I am excited for the Olympics since it will incentivize the Utah state government to invest in transit
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@JakeAnbinder
A lot of schools are using google docs cause its free, meaning the students have no experience with word
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And this is why the “disagree better” stuff is complete bullshit
The border is a disaster that continues to spiral out of control, both in terms of people and deadly fentanyl traffic. This is not a partisan issue. This is a national security issue. This is a common sense issue. This is an American issue.
Utah thanks Texas and Gov. Abbott for
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If American religions were high schoolers, Mormonism would be that kid who is kinda weird, but is so desperate for approval that they willingly discard parts of their personality in order to be popular (cont.)
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Mormons often know their family history, but that knowledge is usually devoid of knowledge of wider history, so they don’t know how to fill in the gaps
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One nicety that non mormons probably overlook about mainstream Mormonism is that while they don’t practice polygamy today in this life, Mormons do believe in polygamy in the next life
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For a group that has a bunch of dietary restrictions, Mormons are really not chill with accommodating vegans
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So its a bus
This is incredible!
China 🇨🇳 is testing it’s new autonomous electric train that does not need traditional tracks. It runs on a virtual track. Can go everywhere.
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Looking back at my BYU years, I have way more respect for the guys who refused to serve missions
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You ever just look at old transit maps to make you feel sad? Here’s SLC in the 1920’s vs today
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90% of the reason modern homes don’t look as nice as older homes is that they are designed around cars, not people. No 3 car garage ever looks interesting
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I didn’t realize it at the time, but the funniest thing i have ever seen in my life was being at a Church Dance and watching a 100+ teenage Mormon virgins try to dance to Crank That by Soulja Boy
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Everybody in Utah complaining about all the Californians moving here, when we are not even in the top 10 destinations
California experienced a net population loss of 340,000 people who moved to other states in 2022, according to SF Chron. I’m one of the 50,000 folks who moved from CA to WA in 2022
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My weird mormon relative had a near death experience, saw Jesus, and then proceeded to start a prepper movement that got enough attention she got excommunicated by the church. Oh also she was friends with the Daybells
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Can we make “The Great Utah Bakeoff” a thing? Cause imagine how petty and passive aggressive that would be. Just world class entertainment
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Ogden is super underrated City in Utah. It probably has some of the best architecture in the state.
Example 1: Ogden City Municipal Building (more below)
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It is amazing how much Tehran reminds me of Salt Lake, even has the inversion
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Also i am not making up the guy from the first tweet. Legit guy i knew from my mission who thought Ammon, Idaho was too worldly, so was building a compound in the Challis area to take his family to and wait out the end times
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That spike on the southern end of the Wasatch Front is Provo. Specifically the neighborhoods around BYU. It’s actually kinda fascinating since those neighborhoods are not full of high rises, but rather 3 story apartment buildings. Its densely populated cause most apartments cont.
Eight out of 10 people living in Utah reside along the Wasatch Front. This map gives you a good visualization of that.
Anyone want to guess what that biggest peak is?
(Map by
@MrPecners
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#utpol
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Tehran looks like Utah, but with good urbanism and interesting architecture
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Somebody needs to talk to the Church about their obsession with parking. Some of their new buildings are providing Wal-mart levels of parking
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This is happening so much I am just going to start assuming that if you are under 30 and you own your own home that you got a big loan from the bank of mom and dad
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@Conblob
Yep.
Interestingly, Utah seems to be one of the few states holding string on this. This is one area where i actually agree with Utah’s state government, keep it illegal
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@Noahpinion
As soon as the US doesnt defend a allies boundaries, be prepared to see 10-20 more nuclear armed states, which is much worse
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More of this. Americans are often too afraid of colorful buildings, resulting in a monoscape of drab grey and white buildings. Variety of colors adds character to a neighborhood for a very low price!
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Actually this is the next Sugar House project. Going in on the old Sizzlers lot.
One of the least dense cities in the Western Hemisphere getting the second-largest skyscraper in the USA, taller than any building in Hong Kong, is absolutely hilarious. (Oklahoma City tower proposal)
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If it wasn’t for religion, Utah would vote exactly like Colorado since their demographic profiles align so closely
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Love how I can seriously offend a lot of Utahns by calling multi-level marketers crooks
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Mormon GAs are really in a bubble if they believe that a rebrand will make other American Christians (lets be honest, its probably about trying to convince evangelicals) welcome them into the “Christian” club
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As requested by
@itsabsaf
the cast of High School Musical the Musical the Series and wether they are Mormon, non-mormon, jack mormon, or exmos
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I had him as a professor….lets say his behavior/personality made a lot more sense after this all started coming out.
Just a trash human being.
Not a drag queen.
And just to clarify the headline — the abuse of three students happened while he was a BYU professor and head of the department. AND he invoked his priesthood authority during the abuse.
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Hard for the rest of us to compete for starter homes when the person buying them is 55 and in their peak earning years
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@GoldwagNathan
Shaddam is fairly fecund, Unfortunently for him, the far future seems to have reverted to Salic law for some reason
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These maps give credit to my theory that the most racist towns you will ever find is the small, extremely white towns right outside of an Indian Reservation
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@BeckstromBen
Thats pretty good. I have ancestors who were mormons forced out of Missouri by a mob and then other ancestors who were part of that same mob lol
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I always wonder how some of my peers are able to afford their homes. And the answer is almost always, they cant, but they have access to the bank of mom and dad, which makes it possible
"Welcome to the 'nepo' housing market: 40% of homebuyers under 30 get family money to cover their down payment"
via
@AlenaBotros
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“Are you alright?”
My Gen Z sister after listening to 10 minutes of my 90s alternative playlist
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@harambevan
The church: Spends decades lecturing about the importance of families.
Sees people choose their families over the church
The church: “Wait not like that”
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Mormons when the walls are not covered in carpet
I literally saw this happen to my parents yesterday
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This reminds me that i had MULTIPLE BYU professors warn me and my peers about working for the church. Some of the problems they pointed out:
-Extreme misogyny
-Extreme gender pay gap
-Abusive bosses
-Micromanaging execs (GAs)
-Poor pay compared to peer orgs
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Everybody misreading this. The utahn mormons are blaming the fact that their are non mormons/less active mormons/exmos in their neighborhood on Californians, when really it usually is just people who grew up here
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In fact a couple of high up leader mormons are married to multiple women (only one wife is still alive) and will be in polygamous marriages in the next life according to mormon belief
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I know this fact, and polygamy in the next life frightens/enrages a lot of active mormon women, which is probably one of the main reasons why the church downplays it (besides the bad publicity bringing it back would do to the church)
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I could really get into Iranian architecture
Shah Mosque, Isfahan, Iran
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Evangelicals would be the mean girl who was once cool, but everyone now hates. The mormon kid still thinks evangelical girl is cool, and is trying to be more like Evangelical Girl
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Have 4-6 people, and the single family homes have 8-12 people. Its really a look into how densely populated comparatively low rise neighborhoods throughout the US used to be (mostly due to larger family sizes)
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As someone who is Post-Mo I have to admit to some fond memories of Monson and Hinckly, but I cannot stand Nelson
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@MormonInformant
@poetickate
Such BS. We had multiple GAs come to my mission and tell us to ask on the first lesson regardless if they were were ready or not. I imagine they are making this change so as to blame the missionaries for how horrible the church has done on missionary work for the last decade
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I get that a lot of us need a boogeyman and the NRA fills that role, however when we give them all the blame we overlook the fact that conservatives consistently vote to overturn gun controls and push judges that promise to overrule gun control legislation. If you need (cont.)
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I am not vegan, but if i am having you over for dinner and you let me know you are vegan beforehand i will do my best to accomodate you, as any courteous person should
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@b_cuse_
I had a friend complain to me that he was the only straight guy in his graduate planning program. A bit of a culture shock to him lol
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If Utah was really serious about the drought, we would be implementing incentives to get people to tear out their lawns and do xeriscaping (appropriate to our climate)
Amid dangerous drought conditions, we’re inviting all Utahns — regardless of religious affiliation — to join us this weekend in collective and humble prayer for rain.
Read more:
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All the Scriptures justifying polygamy are still canon, and many mormons belief that they will be practicing polygamy in this life if the prophet receives “revelation” giving them the green light again
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If i could change one thing in that south of campus neighborhood i would redevelop the block by the 700 N UVX station into a urban grocery store with apartments on top. Would be life changing for all the students without cars
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There are 2 catholics at the high school. One is a normie, the other is super into Dungeons and Dragons and wants to bring back the middle ages
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@brandonsiracuse
@TaylorWAnderson
From what i can tell, the only field that is keeping pace with the changes is tech
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Downtown SLC when
A car dealership turns into 783 homes in Washington, DC. (2011➡️2019)
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Quick reminder that the Church only cares about preserving around 30 (mostly temples) historical structures. Otherwise they are extremely utilitarian when it comes to buildings.
The LDS Church is selling its 97-year-old Wells Ward chapel with one requirement: It must be demolished.
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Will never not be funny to me that when I was a missionary, the one set of investigators we got to actually read the Book of Mormon got to Nephi killing Laban, read that, said “this isn’t Christian at all” and then stopped meeting with us entirely
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This thought brought to you by my friends sister and her husband (both 22) buying a home that must have cost over $500,000
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Me being Mormon
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my inability to read signals
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my ass getting pinched by my crush in my freshmen year of HS during marching band and me not realizing what it meant
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I have seen wards gerrymandered to account for race, wealth, age, or to just get that one family into a specific ward
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My flight out of Provo to Mesa may have the greatest concentration of Mormon Karens to exist (outside of BYU’s Women’s conference)
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Unitarians are the pothead who is super chill with everyone, but a few people really dislike (evangelical mean girl)
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Episcopalians is a bookish kid who hangs out in the library
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Funny to me that my Pioneer ancestors basically got punked by Brigham Young when he told them to walk over some of the best farmland in the US (Iowa) and got sent to farm in Sanpete County, Utah
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Lutherans are the nice girl who is into baking and always is giving out food
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First Presbyterian Church in Salt Lake City. Probably my favorite church building in Utah
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Society has gone downhill, I remember when Provo used to have 3 fro yo shops and now we have none
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Congregationalists is that shy kid everybody thought moved 2 years ago but is still here
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If we ha a neighborhood of these in Utah, it would probably be the most in demand neighborhood in the state
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This tweet brought to you by me overhearing a bunch of Mormons joking about tricking a vegan missionary they are having over for dinner into eating meat
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@Conblob
A lot of people seem to forget that young people took the brunt of the Great Recession. Last hire=first out the door in many organizations
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Try dating apps here in Utah and you will learn both are true
was tryna tell a friend Mormons really love swing -dancing, but accidentally typed out “Mormons are really big swingers” AMA
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The Methodist kid believes that everyone should just get along and is friends with everyone, even though his friends hate each other
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@bayoulejeune
There is undeniable elitism about where you served your mission. Try telling people you served in Utah/Idaho and you can see the judgement on their faces
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So many weird ward boundaries are due to the Stake Pres wanting Bro Smit to be bishop, and so drawing distorting all reasonable boundaries to make that possible
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None of you asked for this, but here it goes: the Mormon/Post-Mormon dating spectrum guide.
1. Super-Mormons: goes to the temple every week. Dating to try and find their future senior mission companion. Probably a Relief Society or Elders Quorum president. Expect a temple date
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Give me more art deco churches please
Some gorgeous Deco details on St. Gabriel the Archangel in St. Louis Hills. It was designed in 1934 and wasn't built until 1951 due to the depression and the war. Stained glass by Emil Frei.
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@jkimballcook
As a BYU alumni who has left the church I can confidently say that my BYU professors had nothing to do with that. In fact if the Church was more like some of my professors, I might have stayed
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