Important lessons 📜 from ICU case:
🚨Not everything is septic shock
🚨A limited echo has limitations
Older patient in shock on 3 vasopressors, who initially presented with dyspnea and a CXR like 👇
What the diagnosis?
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Difficult truths of medicine:
💉A procedure performed expertly may still have a complication
📝A thoroughly obtained history may still lead to the wrong diagnosis
⚖️Excellent patient care may still lead to a complaint
Stay humble, keep learning 📚
What advice do you have?
A patient presents in shock:
BP is 100/35
A wide pulse pressure (low diastolic) is suggestive of a distributive shock
With an important exception
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🧪DKA in ESRD requires deviation from usual management:
🛑Anuria means no glucosuria & osmotic diuresis=don't need aggressive fluids
🛑Insulin will accumulate=start lower infusion (~.05u/kg/hr)
🛑Follow BHOB, anion gap may be unreliable
🛑Caution w/ K+
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@PulmCrit
Can epinephrine cause hypotension?
A patient is transferred the ICU with hypotension on 4 mcg/min (.05 mcg/kg/min) epinephrine. Thought to be a GI bleed, resuscitated but was still hypotensive with a HR in the 60s, BP100/40 (60)
Takes carvedilol
Epi stopped MAP 60->90 🤯
How
You intubated the asthmatic! What to look for on the vent and what to do about it.
It gets complicated, but the basics are in the thread below
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#tweetorial
mini
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Pulmonary embolisms are tricky 🧐
Beware of the athlete who says...I got short of breath while doing my usual 50-100 mile bike ride and 10 mile hike
HR 70, 97%, looks great
Dx bilateral lobar PE
💡those with ⬆️ physiologic reserve present differently, SOB=consider PE
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📜Lessons:
✔️Not everything is septic shock
✅Normal LV/RV function does NOT rule cardiogenic cause of shock-low cardiac output from MR+AS despite normal EF in this case
☑️Severe MR can cause unilateral pulmonary edema
✔️Narrow pulse pressure (BP 80/60) hints at cardiac cause
It's hard to remember which receptors all the vasopressors and inotropes hit 🤷♂️
🚨But we must know the cardiovascular effects of these medications so we can choose the right one for our patient
Simplified version 👇
Even easier: when in doubt choose norepinephrine
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As the extubator in the ICU I appreciate a detailed airway note
Mac 4, 7.5 ET tube, 3 attempts 🤔
⬇️
Better:
Epiglottis poorly mobile, manually lifted w/ Mac 4 video to show a grade 2 view, bougie with hyperangulated bend used successfully, easy 2 handed BVM
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Using a BVM with a PEEP valve and good technique on a de-recruited lung improves atelectasis, increases FRC and ultimately increases safe apneic time with
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@ResusPadawan
@DarrenBraude
#CCTMC19
procedural anatomy lab
Can high PEEP worse oxygenation?
Yes!
A recent case to illustrate
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A person has a witnessed aspiration event after a procedure and is severely hypoxemic requiring intubation
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🫁Vent Management COVID ARDS🫁
Failing max NiPPV, RR 40s, O2 70s to low 80s->intubate
😧Post intubation O2 sat 88%, VC-AC Vt 5 ml/kg, PEEP 18, fiO2 100%, plateau 35
4 hours later..
🙂Sat 96%, 60% O2, Pplat 30-31
What did we change to improve over those 4 hrs?
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Epi is thought of as a inoconstrictor
(Increased inotropy and vasoconstriction)
But, I have had few cases (like this one) where at low doses it acts more like an inodilator (inotropy and vasodilation)
I like this visual
It is related to the dose dependent effects of epinephrine
At lower doses (<.1 mcg/kg/min) it has more beta 1 and beta 2 activity than alpha 1 (vasoconstriction)
Beta 1 increases inotropy (⬆️ stroke volume) and chronotropy (⬆️ HR)
Beta 2 reduces vascular tone (vasodilates)
A narrow pulse pressure ~ BP 80/60 makes me think low cardiac output and high SVR
Simplistically, the stroke volume is low so a high systolic pressure is not generated
Compensation = increase SVR and a higher diastolic pressure
Causes cardiogenic shock, hypovolemia, etc.
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One important exception is:
🫀Severe Aortic Regurgitation
The incompetent aortic valve allows blood to move retrograde during diastole (reduced forward cardiac output) and a lower diastolic pressure and a wider pulse pressure is observed
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💔 How to approach cardiogenic shock in the ED💔
@UVMEmergencyMed
didactics
1. Stabilize and restore perfusion
2. Diagnose and treat underlying cause
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My general approach to stabilization:
👇
Work hard to save someone's life on your last shift?
Go visit them in the ICU. The family (and ICU team) will be confused but happy to see you.
Let your team know they did a good job.
Helps remind us all what we do matters.
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Final thoughts 📜
CAN have a metabolic acidosis with a normal bicarb
2.Always calculate an anion gap
3.Use Delta anion gap-Delta Bicarbonate to identify mixed acid base disorder
4.Metabolic alkalosis from hypovolemia and vomiting-treat with NS
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Ordering an isotonic sodium bicarb infusion for a patient with acute renal failure/non gap acidosis:
⛔️ Computer warning THIS 150meq EXCEEDS THE RECOMMENDED DOSE of NaHCO3🤦♂️
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We need one for Normal Saline
⛔️THIS EXCEEDS THE RECOMMENDED DOSE OF CHLORIDE by 1000%
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When I see a BP of 100/35 I think of a low SVR (vasodilated) state and imagine the simplified equation
Mean arterial pressure ⬇️= cardiac output ↔️x systemic vascular resistance ⬇️
Common causes: sepsis, anaphylaxis, iatrogenic (vasodilators), etc
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🫁A non-invasive approach to respiratory failure🫀
Be an expert at keeping your patient off the vent!
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didactics discussing the basics and cutting edge on one of my favorite subjects
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Great video of breathing pattern in severe acidosis.
Be worried if you have to intubate someone like this. Any apnea will make CO2 ⬆️ and pH ⬇️
Also, near impossible to match minute ventilation of someone like this who is very actively breathing in and out.
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🚨🫁 Ventilator Peak Pressure Alarms
How to approach?
In volume targeted modes of ventilation I check the plateau pressure- if normal probably an airway resistance problem
High plateau-I look for a "compliance" problem
What tips do you have?
In a visual 👇
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What’s a benefit of using succinylcholine for RSI every now an then?
‼️To remind us how short acting RSI sedatives can be (especially etomidate)
🧠Important to have immediate, adequate sedation while still paralyzed—more than a low dose propofol infusion
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Best second line agent in status epilepticus?
Valproate, levetiracetam or fosphenytoin seem to be equally effective in this study.
Use whatever is most readily available.
*Note it's not "1 gram of keppra"
Levetiracetam was dosed at 60mg/kg to a Max of 4.5 gm.
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Intravenous valproate, levetiracetam, and fosphenytoin stopped status epilepticus that was resistant to initial treatment with lorazepam in approximately half the patients and did not differ significantly in effectiveness.
🫁Great thoughts below!
Answer in this case-Nothing but time ⏳
Left the same settings(PEEP of ~18 had best initial driving pressure)
Important case reminding me recruitment takes time, particularly after intubation
Give it a few hours before major changes
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The conflict of practicing emergency medicine:
I hope I didn't miss anything or fail to treat something that may harm my patient
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I hope I didn't do unecessary treatments, procedures or testing that may harm my patient
Don't miss cardiogenic shock in the ED!
High mortality that increases when diagnosis is delayed
Use careful exam, labs, ECG and POCUS to dx
A few tips from our recent paper Madison Daly
@long_brit
@EMHighAK
@UVMEmergencyMed
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Your patient with septic shock is improving w/ stable dose of 10-15 mcg/min norepi but goes into & stays in a-fib w/ rate >140-160
No other contributors found, had adequate volume, ❤️ is ok
What are you using 1st for rapid a-fib in patient w/ septic shock? Why?
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Appropriate and aggressive diuresis is a necessary critical care skill.
How do you know a
#diuresisjedi
like
@PulmCrit
is in the ICU?
@morganpcc
👇 Volume on
Metabolic acid base disorders can be difficult to identify and manage in the ED 🧪
Check out our ED focused review with
@AckilDaniel
@DocWillisMD
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Figure on approach to metabolic acidosis 👇
🚨When evaluating for shock remember gut = end organ.
Pt w/ lightheadedness after starting dilt for a fib
HR ~50 BP 90s/50s
Alert, looks ok
In shock? 🤷♂️
Soon has new, severe abd pain, lactate now ⬆️
Intestinal ischemia 😲
Start epi->pain goes away in <30 min, CT normal👌
Common cause is infective endocarditis
Can be tricky with wide pulse pressure & maybe fever from bacteremia
If wide pulse pressure and signs of heart failure and/or diastolic murmur consider acute aortic insufficiency
What tips do you have?
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We recently had to perform an emergent, bedside pericardiocentesis.
It was difficult to quickly find a kit that worked...
What was available and worked best for us?
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@PatrickNeilan3
Definitive Treatment is surgical
Temporary medical management targets shortening diastolic time (reduce time for retrograde flow into LV) and reducing afterload (SVR)
Can be achieved with medications such as:
Epinephrine (at lower doses)
Or
Dobutamine
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What are the can’t miss EM/CCM papers of the past year? 📄
Giving a talk on top EM/CCM articles and don’t want to miss any
Which are your favorites EM relevant critical care articles?
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Recent case of torsades from metabolic derangements + Qt prolonging meds
Couple treatment tips:
Mg: bolus + gtt
Increase the HR to ~100 (if no ischemia)-Isoproterenol works well
DON'T use amiodarone in polymorphic VT from prolonged Qt- amio prolongs the Qt
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🚨Septic shock from a suspected urinary source?
Lessons I have learned:
🦠Look for prior urine cultures & resistance as you order antibiotics. Ceftriaxone isn’t always the best choice!
🩻image for hydronephrosis & infected stone needing decompression
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A patients presents to your ED with fatigue, polyuria, glucose of 300 mg/dl, no sign of DKA on labs. Now what?
The ED will see these patients and we should be ready to start treatment for new diabetes
Management options👇
@RxEmergency
@long_brit
In my patient:
The beta blocker likely caused the low dose epi to not increase chronotropy or inotropy but still had the beta 2 effect of vasodilation causing hypotension
Or if
MAP = cardiac output x systemic vascular resistance
We got a drop in SVR with no ⬆️ CO
Keep in mind the dose dependent effects of epinephrine
Sometimes it’s a good thing to use low doses as an inoptrope
But on rare occasions, the beta 2 vasodilation effects may dominate and perpetuate hypotension
Anyone else experienced this?
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My approach to hypoxemic respiratory failure.
Reserve NiPPV (BiPAP/CPAP) for those with COPD or cardiogenic pulmonary edema.
Pneumonia, early ARDS etc. use high flow nasal cannula.
Don't delay intubation & lung protective MV if failing to respond.
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Lessons 📝
-Individualize PEEP
-Think about the alveolar/capillary unit, overdistension, and risk of worsening v/q matching
-Unilateral or focal lung processes are not ARDS and may not improve with high PEEP if there is not recruitable lung
What tips do you have?
Took the opportunity to write "kaliuresis" in my ED note today.
Pearl: Add a thiazide to the high dose loop diuretic in the acute, severely hyperkalemic patient for maximal kaliuresis
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Question for resuscitation experts:
What is your go to second line vasopressor in septic shock and at what dose of norepinephrine do you add it?
Let's assume normal EF and full IVC on POCUS.
My answer 👇
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Presented to the ED with acute onset dyspnea, new O2 requirement 6 L NC, minimal PMH
BP 95/70, HR ~ 100, afebrile
Hypoxemia worsened during ED stay requiring intubation
Now hypotensive
CT obtained with unilateral right sided pulm infiltrates, small pleural effusions, no PE
Lesson: always calculate an anion gap, even if bicarb is normal
What is going in our case?
Use Delta-Delta equation to figure it out
Delta (change in anion gap) - Delta (change in bicarb) = ± 5 in pure HAGMA
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Middle of night POCUS 🫀
RV mildly dilated but systolic function looks ok
IVC 2.5 cm minimal variation
LVEF is normal
AS suspected on visual assessment
Comprehensive echo ordered for better valve assessment in AM
Post arrest shock is complex & heterogeneous. There’s unlikely a “ best pressor” for all
Best advice:
Try to classify shock
Cardiogenic w/ LV failure-low dose epi or norepi + dobutamine
Vasoplegic/distributive-norepi +\- vaso
Unsure? Norepi
Thanks
@EMPHARM_NET
for the data!
Thank you
@umassEMresident
for having me come talk about two of my favorite subjects.
Cardiogenic shock and non-invasive ventilation.
I hope it can be in person next time!
Summary Slides:
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Approach to shock
Is it a low SVR/ distributive shock/sepsis?
Vasopressors (norepi, epi)
Is it a cardiac output problem?
Inotropes (dobutamine, epi, norepi)
Is it both?
Pressors with B1/ a1 activity (norepi, epi)
+/- Volume in any patient w/ shock
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#Foamed
@UVM_EM
Tips:
Shock = hypoperfusion
Shock is NOT a blood pressure
Examine distal extremities as it might be the first clue
Afterload reduction to improve forward flow & ⬆️ CO in high SVR cardiogenic shock
POCUS helps
🚨Not all "pneumonias" are caused by infections🫁
A patient presents to the ED for failure of outpatient antibiotics. There are bilateral infiltrates on CXR read as "multifocal pneumonia." No fever, +dry cough, +dyspnea.
Taking an immune checkpoint inhibitor for NSLC
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@ryan_barnicle
@reverendofdoubt
@MadtownEM
Had a case of DKA with a normal serum bicarbonate (vomiting and a lot of calcium carbonate created a remarkable alkalosis)
That was a tough one, had to convince everyone of DKA treatment with a nice delta-delta discussion 🤓
Approach to intubating the hypotensive patient by
@mattroginski
from
@dhart_hems
@dartmouthem
1. Access
2. Pressure bag with volume if hypovolemic
3. Pause and think
4. Vasopressor infusion started early is likely safer than push dose
@UVM_EM
grand rounds
As I begin to read the CLOVERS trial I found this interesting
ICU admission:
67.3% Restrictive Group
59.2% Liberal Fluid group
More vasopressors = more ICU admissions
If truly same outcomes, should we give more fluid to reduce need for ICU bed?
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#foammed
What’s the lowest pCO2 from respiratory compensation of a severe metabolic acidosis you have seen?
What is the lowest described in the literature?
🫁🧪
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Take homes on HFNC:
-It is a first line therapy in hypoxemic respiratory failure
-Reduces intubation compared to conventional O2
-Probably better than NIPPV in pneumonia (unless you have helmet NIV)
-Monitor close for signs of failure, don’t delay necessary intubation
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Opinions on Sodium Bicarb 🚨
You have a patient with a severe lactic acidosis (Metformin), gas 6.95/PaCO2 18/Bicarb 5, RR 30, shock, declining MS, intubation imminent & unavoidable
Do you give a slow push amp or two of sodium bicarb prior to induction? Why y/n?
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@NephroP
Nice table!
I like to think about the dose dependent effects of epinephrine
Low dose (<0.1 mcg/kg/min) probably is more B1 and B2; higher doses add alpha/vasoconstriction
For this reason low dose epi can be a decent option in RV failure/pHTN w/ shock
Sepsis infographic 👇
Note 30 ml/kg fluid is a guideline recommendation ONLY if lactate >4 or hypotensive.
*Not everyone with sepsis is mandated to get 30 ml/kg by guideline
Whether everyone with septic shock needs 30 ml/kg fluid if a seperate discussion..
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Improve sepsis and septic shock response with the
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Are you using high flow nasal cannula in your ED practice?
Many great uses--check out our thoughts
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High flow nasal cannula for adult acute hypoxemic respiratory failure ...
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#COVIDARDS
w/ worsening hypoxemia after a few days on the vent.
PaO2 of 60 on 100% FiO2 and PEEP 14 (adj to best compliance) 😲
4 hrs later
👇
PaO2 of 110
By morning FiO2 ⬇️ 60%
How? Fancy vent modes? Exp meds?
No! just proning.
Don't forget the basics!
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Is there an acidosis?
The pH is normal, bicarb is normal 🧐
What’s the anion gap?
130 – [75+25] = anion gap of 30
There is an elevated anion gap = there IS a high anion gap metabolic acidosis (HAGMA)
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Why is the vent alarming! Why is the peak pressure high?
Tips:
Look for air trapping on flow waveform
Decrease RR to maximize expiratory time, as low as 10-15/min
Keep plateau pressure < 30
Tolerate a respiratory acidosis and deeply sedate +/- paralyze if needed
Maximize bronchodilators
V-V ECMO if unmanageable on the vent
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Nice comparison of 3% hypertonic saline strategies for correction of hyponatremia
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Overcorrection in Rapid Intermittent Bolus vs Slow Continuous Infusion for Symptomatic Hyponatremia via
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part of
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Fever and tachycardia does not equal 30ml/kg fluid
Fever and tachycardia does not equal 30ml/kg fluid
Fever and tachycardia does not equal 30ml/kg fluid
Fever and tachycardia does not equal 30ml/kg fluid
What's your "maximal" vasopressor support for refractory distributive shock?
Ex: Septic shock admitted 12hr ago, heart function good, adequate volume, source controlled on abx
What combo and doses of norepi, epi, vaso, phenyl is your limit?
Adjunctive therapy?
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@jasonkbowman
Totally agree.
One of the scribes I work with puts the patient's name in the HPI and I really like it.
Instead of "The patient states..."
Better:
"Bill said the chest pain began yesterday while walking his golden retriever named Max."
Emergency Airway Experts:
Is anyone using suggamadex to reverse rocuronium & facilitate a neurologic exam? Should we be?
It's come up a few times recently.
For ex: Intubate an obtunded patient before CT and find an ICH - NSG wants to examine right away
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#FoamCC
Vent tip from a recent case:
The tidal volume is easy to overestimate & may be lower than you think.
In this case 6 mL/kg was ~260 mL for a small adult
Make sure you 📏 every patient's height to establish their 6-8 mL/kg
@mdcalc
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#foamcc
Agree!
Those on HFNC can meet the diagnosis of ARDS and should be included in the Berlin definition.
A flow cutoff of >30 L/min makes sense as a substitute for a PEEP cutoff.
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