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This is a very creative, very LEGAL play, at every level of 🏀, but will confuse those who don’t know the rules.
Jokic ends his dribble (gathers the ball) w/ both feet off the floor, & lands simultaneously on both feet. By rule, he can pivot with either foot from this position.
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Voiceover Vid. Volume up 🔊
NBA Traveling Rule explained, for fans & commentators perplexed by this not being called a Travel.
#NBA
Rules
#NBAPlayoffs
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This may surprise a lot of fans, but this was EXCELLENT officiating from JB (Lead official) on this play. Kawhi wanted a foul called & yelled at JB to call it. Well sure, he could’ve called this a foul, BUT the contact was BEFORE the gather. This is why refs are taught to let
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@ARusher8
@ALinCALI22
1) I feel the Dray to Sabonis contact warranted a Loose Ball Foul on Dray.
2) I support No Tech on Dray in this scenario (he doesn’t step toward Sabonis, and appears to just yell “YEAH”)
3) I support a No-Call on the screening action as well, based on NBA Screening Rules. (Dray
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@RefMikeG
@DevInTheLab
Definitely a fumble, and as such, he’s permitted to recover the ball, and shoot. Legal play.👍
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@TWDTV1
@sluggahjells
This is a great example of why knowing guarding rules is important. If a defender is moving directly or obliquely toward the ball handler when contact occurs, they are not in Legal Guarding Position (LGP), and that means they are responsible for the contact. On this play, Atkins’
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During the driving dunk attempt, Edey makes legal contact with the ball, and legal contact with Hawkins’ hand while it is in contact with the ball.
CNC (Correct Non-Call), per NCAAM Rule 4-18.2.
Yes, it is annoying to bitch about the refs… BUT Edey should be sitting with 4 fouls after this.
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This foul call is correct.
Defender moves toward/into the ball handler, and causes contact. Defender’s knee contacts & dislodges the pivot foot leg (left leg) of the ball handler, causing him to travel (slide pivot foot).
This contact may seem marginal, and the call may seem like
Film Session: Purdue vs Wisconsin
Controversial foul call late in the game
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@twade_10
@rav617
@SLAM_HS
@SLAMonline
@tiphoops
Nah, that’s that Burger King defense ....
“Have it your way”.
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If a thrower-in extends the ball across the boundary plane like this, during a throw-in, then in NCAA & NFHS it is legal for an opponent to slap or grab the ball from the thrower-ins hands. The ball comes into play when the thrower-in breaks the boundary plane with the ball by
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@bballbreakdown
In case some are still confused as to why this was *correctly* called a defensive foul, you’ll want to watch this clip from the NBA’s Points of Emphasis vid in February.
Listen to Monty McCutchen break down a similar play, which involves none other than Jalen Brunson. Enjoy!🔊
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@ARusher8
@ALinCALI22
Oh, I forgot to address the initial Dray/Barnes play too. Dray appears to legally jump within his vertical plane to contest the shot, and absorb the contact. I don’t see any illegal contact with his arms either. From this camera angle, I support a No-Call on that too. Maybe
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@JoshReynolds24
@NBAOfficial
You’ll like this one, Josh. Especially since it’s exactly what happened on the 2 shooting fouls Brunson drew from trailing defenders tonight.
The Curry clip you posted is 100% an offensive foul. He overtly launched off his path & into defender, to initiate contact.
Brunson didn’t
@bballbreakdown
In case some are still confused as to why this was *correctly* called a defensive foul, you’ll want to watch this clip from the NBA’s Points of Emphasis vid in February.
Listen to Monty McCutchen break down a similar play, which involves none other than Jalen Brunson. Enjoy!🔊
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Big fan of these 2023-24 rule changes for NFHS 🏀, as most of them align w/ NCAA Men’s and/or Women’s rules/procedures. Not a single one I’m not in favor of.
•Team Fouls reset each quarter
•Bonus is now 2FT’s (no more 1 & 1), & begins on opponents 5th Team Foul of quarter
2023 HS Basketball Rules Changes Announced
Free Throw Procedures and Foul Administration Amended in 2023-24 HS Basketball Rules Changes
Beginning next year, basketball teams will shoot two free throws for common fouls when in the “bonus.”
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@WestSS_101
@bballbreakdown
The RA (Restricted Area) is not a factor on this play.
Looney is a Primary Defender, not a Secondary Defender.
Also, even if Looney was a secondary defender, he established outside the RA and retreats back into it, so the RA is not in play.
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@MikeRef4all
Interesting play for sure. Thanks for sharing it with me.
So there are 2 lines of thought on a play like this, but first let me say that IMO this most certainly is not an Unsportsmanlike Foul. This is not unnecessary or excessive contact from Walkup, nor does it meet the other
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Correct Call. Obvious Block per NBA rules. Obvious Block per FIBA, NCAA, & NFHS rules as well.
If you know your leagues guarding rules, and “referee the defense” (watch the defender to see if they obtain & maintain legal guarding position), Block is an easy decision on this play.
This is NOT a good call. This is currently the biggest problem call in the league.
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Well done breakdown. Legal play. No travel here. Just because a play may look weird does not mean it’s illegal.
Awkward ≠ Travel
Lotta people calling this a travel so let's break this down in SLO MO.
Even under a microscope we can see a gather + two foot jumpstop. At this point either foot can be lifted to establish the other as the pivot. Paolo's right foot slides slightly but that's no issue. Clean play
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Awkward ≠ Travel
From the PxP angle, this may appear to be an obvious travel by Rudy, but this replay angle tells a different story. He doesn’t officially gather the ball until his right foot is on the floor (gather step). He then takes his 2 allowable steps from that point
Rudy Gobert steal + coast-to-coast transition layup
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@TWDTV1
@sluggahjells
Oh, you want to double down? Interesting. I think most objective people reading this, watching this clip, and reading the supporting rules I posted, will be able to determine that the refs made the correct decision on this play. I can’t help those who refuse to admit they were
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Tell us you don’t know screening rules, without telling us you don’t know screening rules. 👇
“That’s a foul 10/10 times! Timing of the game doesn’t matter! A moving screen is a moving screen!”
So, why were none of these called?
They all lead to 3 pointers.
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@walkeri141
Good question. A few interesting points…
1) NCAAM is the only 🏀 league in the world that doesn’t require a player in the 3-sec lane to have both feet touch the court outside the lane, in order for that player to cleanse the lane (terminate the count). NFHS/NCAAW/NBA/FIBA all
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@THERealShoePimp
Respectfully, you’re too pure (splitting hairs). In real time, both feet land at approximately the same time.
Expecting a ref to identify & confirm w/ 100% certainty that the L foot landed before the R foot on this play, at game speed, is an impossible standard for refs to live
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@BallySportsSO
It’s unreal how many times this season Ronald has already been called out on Strike 3 looking, on pitches that were out of the zone.
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Real Talk. If I was a high school RB right now, there isn’t a coach I’d rather play for more, at the collegiate level, than
@coachchoice
in the ATL!
My dude has that contagious energy!
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@InTheLabBrand
He needed to “completely clear the lane with both feet”. He didn’t.
NBA Officials Manual👇
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@nuggetsgenes
@automaticnba
Yes. In NCAA & NFHS you can get a tech after the final horn because the officials jurisdiction does not end until we (officials) leave the visual confines of the playing court. HOWEVER, we should run off the court immediately, not be casually walking off the court, and not be
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@MovementNRhythm
@MikeJ_Kessler
What backstory do you need?
This is the very definition of Unsporting Conduct. Clear Baiting/Taunting of opponent. Refs who let this go unpenalized are asking for trouble in their games.
He’s a great player, but this is unacceptable, and not to be confused w/ passion/emotion.
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@churleyboy
@CodifyBaseball
Small sample size, but Braves hit 6 HR’s in the 3 games they played in Colorado this year. At a 2HR/game average, over the course of a 81 Home game schedule, that would be 162 HRs if their home park was Coors Field (22 more than the 140 HRs they’ve hit in ATL this season). Then
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And here is the applicable NBA traveling rule that supports my analysis, and the No-Call.
(NBA Rule 10 - Section XIII - b)
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If you or someone you know is struggling w/ understanding why the Rudy Gobert play is NOT a travel per
#NBA
rules, this is the post to clear it up! Share it far & wide!
• Watch Vid 1 to see the baseline angle of the Rudy play.
• Watch Vid 2 (VOLUME UP🔈) to hear NBA VP (Monty
Awkward ≠ Travel
From the PxP angle, this may appear to be an obvious travel by Rudy, but this replay angle tells a different story. He doesn’t officially gather the ball until his right foot is on the floor (gather step). He then takes his 2 allowable steps from that point
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Little known
#NBA
Rule:
This may seem like an erroneous shot clock reset to 14 sec, but per NBA Rule 7 - Sec. IV - e (5), and Guidelines For Infection Control, the shot clock was correctly reset to 14 sec due to the discovery of blood on LBJ’s arm during this dead ball period.
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@CoachA523
@ZachFleer270
I make it a point not to criticize fellow refs, so I’ll give my analysis by saying:
There’s a 0% chance I’d rule this action as a Technical Foul. There’s a player in the vicinity of his landing space, and he’s allowed to grasp the ring to “prevent injury”.
Unfortunate call.
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@bballbreakdown
And then Zach talked to him calmly on the block during the first FT, presumably cautioning him to be mindful of his reactions. Lively has waved off the refs a couple times after correct calls that went against him. He’s toeing the line. Good officiating & composure from Zach.
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@bomberjacket5
@automaticnba
@bballbreakdown
@IshanHindocha
@mdwbasketball
@NunnBetterRefs
Some share in your opinion of NBA Traveling Rules, and others (like me) do not.
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@TWDTV1
@sluggahjells
Hopefully this wasn’t your best effort.
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not. I’m just trying to help people understand the rules, and have no other agenda whatsoever. Btw- I would be giving this same ruling no mater which 2 players were involved. You clearly didn’t know this
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For those who think it’s automatically “Goaltending *or Basket Interference* if the player touches the rim while the ball is in the cylinder.”;
That’s NOT a NBA rule. It’s not a FIBA/NCAA/NFHS rule either.
🟡NBA Rule 11
🟣FIBA Art. 31
🔵NCAA Rule 9-15
🟢NFHS Rules 4-6 & 4-22
This was a really bad call. The refs determined the rim contact wasn’t consequential to the ball going through the hoop. The rule states that it’s offensive goaltending if the player touches the rim while the ball is in the cylinder. Draymond not only touched the rim. He
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(Long post)
This is not a double dribble, and if this play is even addressed in today’s L2M Report, you can expect the ref decision to be graded as a CNC (Correct Non-Call), bc it is.
Here’s why…
Dort’s pass is errant, and Williams saves the loose ball from going OoB by batting
Jalen Williams threw down a clutch baseline dunk, but did he get away with a double-dribble? Grant Hill seems to think so 🤔
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@BaySportsFam
@DevInTheLab
You can absolutely start your initial dribble with 2 hands. There is no rule prohibiting that in any basketball league. Fans are fans for a reason.😉
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Awkward ≠ Travel
Giannis was NOT called for a travel on this play.
You agree? 👀
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#NBA
Rules (Verticality):
Great discussion play.
So, a common phrase used in referee circles is “What did the defender do wrong?”.
Try this experiment…
Watch this play again (clip below w/ slow mo), and only focus on DG’s movements. You’ll see on his last jump, DG legally jumps
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Perfect patient whistle on this play, & correct call. Many of you have seen me discuss how refs are trained to let plays to the basket Start, Develop, & Finish (SDF), and process the play before making a decision. This leads to higher call accuracy.
This play is a great example.
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@Deleted92
@bballbreakdown
There is literally a rule that says you can.
(NBA Rule 10 - Section XIII - b)
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Very smooth *LEGAL* step-through!
Legal at every level of 🏀 (Men’s & Women’s).
Players/Coach’s who know the rules of their league, and take full advantage of them, have a significant advantage over the players/coach’s who don’t.
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@tsmitty724
I contend that almost every foul call in the last 28 seconds of a 5 pt game is controversial. 😁
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@overtime
@mdwbasketball
For anyone interested in learning, here’s the full Breakdown Vid of this move from
@mdwbasketball
.
He gives Rulebook proof for why it’s LEGAL (NBA/FIBA Rules ONLY), provides game footage of same concept/footwork, & shows how to make the move legal at NCAA/NFHS levels. Volume up🔼
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@JewHoliday
@bballbreakdown
@NunnBetterRefs
I’ll just give you the cliff notes then. Coach Nick was right, you were wrong. It’s ok to admit it. This case play proves that one foot touching inbounds, with nothing touching OoB, means a players position is inbounds, and he may legally touch the ball.
“2 feet inbounds” is a
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Easy Blocking Foul call for those familiar w/ NBA guarding rules.
Wemby is nowhere close to being “in the path” of Conley upon contact, and Conley doesn’t overtly veer off his path to initiate contact. Conleys freedom of movement is impeded, & his SQRB affected (Speed, Quickness,
Im generally annoyed with where officiating is at in the NBA, but this specific call is the one I hate the most.
Guard makes a hard drive, defender slides feet and there is mild contact, guard throws up some BS and gets 2 points for it:
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@THERealShoePimp
Go argue with someone else. If refs call this a travel in real time, they’re guessing. We’re taught not to guess. We’re talking milliseconds here. If you expect refs to be able to identify this as one foot landing before the other (instead of both feet simultaneously) you have
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Defender can’t establish/maintain Legal Guarding Position if either foot is Out of Bounds. Correct Call.
Announcers don’t know why this was a Blocking Foul, despite L pointing to defender & saying “You’re OoB”. Maybe they’ll stumble across NCAAM Rule 4-15.4.a & 6.b at some point.
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🏀 Pet Peeve:
A player yelling “ball don’t lie” after his teammate was correctly called for an obvious foul, and the opponent misses a FT.
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LET’S GOOOO JACKETS! 🐝🏈🙌
So proud of our
@GeorgiaTechFB
guys for continuing to battle during this season of growth. I’m very happy they were rewarded for their hard work today.
#TogetherWeSwarm
#biGTime
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@TristanJass
Always shocking how many folks still don’t know it’s 100% LEGAL at every level of 🏀 to lift your pivot foot as long as PF doesn’t return to floor before ball is released on a pass/shot.
🟡NBA Rule 10 - Sec. XIII (d)
🔵NCAAM Rule 9-5.5.a
🟢NFHS Rule 4-44-3.a
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UNACCEPTABLE behavior from Murray after final horn.
Absolutely no excuse for this.
Many fans expect Refs to exhibit self-control (which Petraitis does very well here), but then make excuses for players who don’t exhibit self-control.
Respect the game & respect each other. Period!
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Yes. It’s an illegal blind back screen.
(NBA Comments On The Rules - II. A. 3)
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@VitoTheFinsFan
@bballbreakdown
I think we all know exactly what he was doing. However, that is immaterial in deciding whether a foul occurred or not. So we absolutely can ignore why this contact occurs, because 🏀 rules have never prohibited a ball handler from stopping on his path, and rising straight up to
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🏀 Refs:
The
#1
Coach grievance I hear, re: Refs in amateur game, is lack of consistency in rule enforcement, from game 2 game.
Our
#1
job is to get the play right. If we want to improve perception, we must KNOW THE RULES & GET PLAYS RIGHT!
Every “Step-through” in👇video is legal
As a coach/trainer, do you teach this type of “step through” footwork as it’s perfectly legal, or are you hesitant due to the common misconception that it’s a travel and gets called too often? 🤔
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@DeVonJJohnson
@ARusher8
@ALinCALI22
I couldn’t “clearly” see it, but apparently you did. If that’s what happened, then yeah… foul.
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Excellent call! The shooter unnaturally extends/kicks-out his left leg, and creates contact to the defender that otherwise would not have occurred. This contact becomes illegal when it trips the defender, and causes him to fall to the floor. Well done by the calling official.
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This is a foul, and some of you may be wondering “how can the refs miss something so obvious?”. Well unfortunately, this illegal contact occurs in a blind spot for the refs. It sucks, but it happens sometimes. The new Lead is completely screened by Brown when Pritchard swipes
Tyrese Haliburton was SHOCKED that Payton Pritchard wasn’t called for a foul here.
Thoughts? 🤔
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1) Unbiased folks who know the rules know this is a legit LBF on AD. The body contact caused by AD jumping into the back of Wiggins is more than marginal, bc it affected Wiggins ability to pursue loose ball.
2) These conspiracy theories are out of control. They are only a
“Of course”
- AD after the loose ball foul
He knows why this officiating crew was sent in for this game..
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Hoopers-
Learning the traveling rules for your league, and what footwork options are legally available after you end your dribble or catch a pass/loose ball, WILL give you a competitive advantage over your opponents.
For example…
In any 🏀 league, if you come to a stop and can
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@adhi_SRF1995
@automaticnba
@bballbreakdown
@IshanHindocha
@mdwbasketball
@NunnBetterRefs
You’re absolutely correct. That was a Hop Travel by LBJ.
My guy
@mdwbasketball
did a great breakdown of that play.
TURN YOUR SOUND ON and Listen up. This is what really happened on the Lebron James spin move…
#TheMDWWay
#Attention2Detail
🔎
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This is a Trip Foul by Karaban, and correctly called. Karaban is not in legal guarding position. He extends his foot in Griffen’s path, resulting in foot-to-foot contact that causes Griffen to slip & fall, affecting his ability to finish the play. Well done by the Lead official.
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@bballbreakdown
And here is the current NBA Rule for this type of Violation.
(NBA Rule 10 - Section IV - a)
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@kirk_denz
Truth is I didn’t watch the game, so I’m unable to comment on how the crew performed throughout. I am only commenting on this controversial play, in order to educate people on the rules. We have 3 different camera angles to view this play, and through watching them we can confirm
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Nah we HAVE to start holding fans accountable because how are they going to criticize refs when it’s they themselves who don’t know the rules?😁
(NBA Case Play
#273
)
Nah we HAVE to start holding refs accountable because how is this an offensive foul against McConnell?
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@BaseballQuotes1
@BrandonGaudin
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One of these days you or
@JeffFrancoeur
are going to catch a foul ball in the booth, and when it finally happens, I’ll be waiting for one of you to use this “Boy, am I impressive. What a play by me.” line. 🤣🤣🤣
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FYI-
In NCAA, NFHS, & FIBA, it’s 100% legal for a player to catch their own air ball shot attempt (try for goal), and they could even dribble again after catching it.
🔵NCAAM A.R. 216
🟢NFHS 4.44 Sit. B
🟣FIBA 24-4
This is only a Travel in NBA.
🟡NBA Rule 10 - Sec. XIII - f
The Steven Crowl catching his own air ball and put back play
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@MikeRef4all
I’d prefer this to be a no-call (incidental contact). IMO, the defender appears to be legal. The ball handler spins into the defender, but doesn’t go through him, and doesn’t really displace/dislodge him either. I think a patient whistle on this play can help us determine if
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Great breakdown of this double dribble play, from my buddy Milt, using WNBA/NBA rules! Check it out, and learn something!
Now let’s do a deep dive breakdown on the “why” behind this incorrect no-call.
Many fans/coaches/players can’t comprehend how this was missed, bc they think
SOUND ON!!! Did Angel Reese actually commit a violation here?! 👀🤔
#TheMDWWay
#Attention2Detail
🔎
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@TWDTV1
@sluggahjells
Did you know that everything stops moving when you pause a video? That’s why video is better than still frames, in determining defensive or offensive movements leading up to the point of contact. Refs don’t ref still frames. We also don’t use still frames during instant replay
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@coachmwsmith
Every 🏀 league in the 🌎, that plays a 4-quarter game, has a 2FT Bonus starting w/ the 5th Team Foul of the quarter.
In HS, if the trade off for having team fouls reset each quarter is a 2FT Bonus on the 5th TF each quarter, then I’m all for it. I really like TF reseting each Q.
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@MikeRef4all
If it was called a defensive foul, I would grade that as an Incorrect Call. Hopefully it was not called as such. The defender did nothing illegal, IMO.
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PSA:“Over the Back” is NOT in our 🏀Rulebooks
Ref- If you call Pushing foul/Displacement on rebounding action, please don’t tell Coach their player was “over the back”
Coach- When you yell “over the back” to refs, it tells us you don’t know the rules
I elaborate in this clip👇
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@vertuBA
@ZachStafford
You could play this game all day.
*Liberals hopped on the “due process” train real quick with this one, didn’t they?
Neither comment is productive, but we have to “own the _______”. Amirite?
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So as a ref, my
#1
goal is to get plays right. Same w/ all my ref related tweets. I’m still human though. When I make mistakes, I feel obligated to be transparent & correct record. After reaching out/receiving feedback from some VERY reliable sources, their feedback has led me to
This may surprise a lot of fans, but this was EXCELLENT officiating from JB (Lead official) on this play. Kawhi wanted a foul called & yelled at JB to call it. Well sure, he could’ve called this a foul, BUT the contact was BEFORE the gather. This is why refs are taught to let
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An interview in which Murray starts by saying players/coaches/refs should be held accountable, then proceeds to take zero responsibility for his disgraceful actions. He makes excuses, & says he shouldn’t have been suspended. Not one apology or shred of remorse in this entire clip
Dejounte Murray thinks players, coaches and referees should be held accountable
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PSA for 🏀 Coaches/Players
(re: “Pre-Game Warmups”)
THREAD/
As soon as officials step on the floor each night, to monitor pre-game warmups, we start gathering as much info as we can, that will help us do our job better that night.
Part of that is ID’ing player tendencies.
(1/7)
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I can’t stand posts like this. The clip doesn’t provide full story/context, & breeds ref hate. We don’t know if he deserved it or not. There’s a variety of things he could’ve said, while the camera’s not on him, that would warrant a Tech (“Call the f***ing foul”, “F*** you”, etc)
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Can we please stop making this out to be more or less than it actually is, and just look at the facts & rules?
Was Reese making a legitimate effort to block the shot? YES!
(This is a legitimate basketball play).
HOWEVER…
Did Reese’s legit effort to block the shot involve “wind
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This is a very creative, very LEGAL play, at every level of 🏀, but will confuse those who don’t know the rules.
Jokic ends his dribble (gathers the ball) w/ both feet off the floor, & lands simultaneously on both feet. By rule, he can pivot with either foot from this position.
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Great thread
THREAD: We had an interesting discussion the other day over this interaction btwn the Canadian head coach and the lead referee. People struggled to understand why "you guys gotta be better" was disrespectful and how the ref's response was unemotional and that of an adult.
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Monthly reminder that this Step Through is 100% Legal at all levels of basketball (NBA, WNBA, FIBA, NCAAM/W, NFHS, AAU, etc).
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Valid point. Although, I suppose that being at a disadvantage to defend is part of getting beaten off the dribble.
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And here is said rule!
#NBA
Rule 10 - Section XIII (h)
There's a very explicit rule that makes gathering on one foot, then hopping back onto that same foot illegal. And that's exactly what Portis does here.
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I know a lot of Draymond’s screens are legal according to NBA screening rules, but I have noticed he gets away with some illegal ones from time to time. Probably not near as many as people might think though. I can’t speak to whether he gets away with more or less than other
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I’d love to hear from my followers on this one.
Do you see any defensive foul on this chaotic play?
If so, tell me who you believe committed the foul, and provide a rules based reason to support your call.
Jamal Murray wasn't happy that there were no calls made on this play.
Thoughts? 🤔
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