@IslamRFI
The thing he doesn't understand is that this picture is uninslamic to begin with. Even though it's probable that muslims are doing this, the prophet told us to not show the animal anything that scares it (Knife, blood, another animal). It should have its eyes covered to.
1) Jizyah is like zakat: a tax.
2) As to your claim that no one can enforce zakat to be taken while jizyah is enforced, this is wrong. Abu Bakr fought the tribes that refused payment of zakat after the prophet's death.
3) Jizyah isn't taken from women, children, elders, etc.
Jezia (Jizya) is the extra tax imposed on non-Muslims (Dhimmis) who live under Muslim rule according to the Qur'an and Hadith. It is in effect a discrimination tax, you would NEVER see people justify it these days. All those who troll us and are ready to justify it, think
@atheistsposting
Literally, no muslim thinks that the rocks actually hurt Satan. A lot of what happens in haj symbolic like in Safa and Marwa. Obviously, we aren't hajar in the desert, nor are we trying to find water for Ismael like her.
1) Unreliable.
2) Unreliable. Btw, the story says that he used to motivate people to war.
3) Unreliable.
4) Abu Rafi was an enemy who sent people to kill the Prophet and Muslims.
5) Abdullah Bin Khatal was a murderer.
6) The prophet didn't kill her, and the report is solitary.
@Lanaschild_
So a 17 year old is a playful, innocent child, and a year later, she becomes a strong, independent woman with the wisdom of a mother? Doesn't anyone use their reason for a second instead of their emotions. There's practically no difference between a 16, 17 and an 18, 19 year old.
Recently, I saw a BBC article saying that ZamZam water is poisonous. This was also reiterated by an Egyptian secularist named Khalid Montasser. I quickly understood that this wasn't backed up by any actual scientific evidence. In fact, the studies actually say the opposite.
I just saw a video of Dr. Shadee Elmasri on slaves, and I wanted to say that many muslims incorrectly assume that slavery is a "good" thing. It's not, and if it was, God wouldn't reward those that free slaves. We have to understand it as a necessary evil that the whole world....
If we test Mormonism by it's creed and logic, it fails.
If we test Christianity by it's creed and logic, it fails.
If we test Islam by it's creed and logic, it's proven true.
You see how easy it is?
If we test Islam by the behavior of Mohammed, it fails.
If we test Mormonism by the behavior of Joseph Smith, it fails.
If we test Christianity by the behavior of Jesus, it proves to be the truth.
The Story of Musa & Khidr is my favorite in the whole Quran. In it is the answer to all atheistic questions of why God would allow evil. Musa didn't understand the "apparent" evil unwise acts he did. However, it turns out each had a wisdom behind them that Musa simply didn't see.
Alot of people misunderstand the concubine issue in Islam due to a lack on understanding the issue of Slavery in Islam. Firstly, the only way a free person can become a slave is as a prisoner of war. In other words, slavery was the ancients' way of imprisoning an enemy warrior.
Is the Mind in the Heart or the Brain?
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Response to an alleged scientific "error" in the Quran and Sunnah.
The Muslims executed the criminals of the Banu Qurayza that broke their treaty with the Muslims, allied and helped the pagan enemies, and planned an attack on the Muslims. This was after multiple second chances were given to them. Only the grown-up pubescent warriors were killed.
Do you realize that this hadith actually presents scientific knowledge that wasn't known then? Secondly, people in the prophet's time were born without entire limbs and no one questioned or apostates from that. Obviously, they understood it generally and not absolutely.
No point mentioned is even close to accurate.
1) There is no evidence of this. Plus, the Quran doesn't even disagree with genesis on Abraham, as far as I know.
2) If one seriously thinks people can just believe and not have to do anything good, that's a corrupt way of thinking.
Islam has a series of logical issues:
1. Genesis is a far more reliable record of Abraham than the Koran
2. Muslims have a works based salvation that limits God
3. Heaven is limited to lower sensual pleasure
4. God's will is above his intellect so irrationally abounds.
I know this isn't the place to say this, but I will. In Islam, people who didn't know about it won't go to hell. However, they'll still be given the choice and test to follow God or reject him in the afterlife. In short, there isn't a person who will be given an unfair advantage.
" wE dOn'T nEEd rELIgiOn tO bE mOrAL!!"
Says the people who support this and can't give us a single reason why this is barbaric and horrifying based on their own worldview.
Arguably, one of the most popular objections against Islam in the current day is the idea that Islam promotes pedophilia, which is popularity understood as the act of engaging in sexual intimacy with a person younger than 18 years of age.
Critics use two main points to argue for this point:
1) The Prophet's marriage to our mother Aisha at 6 and consummation at 9 or 10.
2) Verse 65:4 of the Holy Quran
In Egypt, we have a joke that says that there are two types of Egypts: Masr (as in the arabic word for egypt) and Egypt (as in the english word itself). We say this because these are the elites whose money is actually stolen from the middle class in true capitalist fashion.
@_ahania
1) So what? If they are consenting adults, it's not an issue. Even then, Islam discourages it.
2) Haram
3) Haram
4) What does that even mean?
5) Same as 1
6) Haram
7) Marriage is only allowed when both parties are physically and mentally ready, as per our scholars.
8) Haram
In this thread, we will give a reasonable moral defense of Islam regarding this issue. However, we must remind ourselves before we delve into this issue that today, in the 21st century, such a topic has become very taboo to even discuss or talk about.
I've read the studies you cited, and it seems misleading to attribute the results to Islam. Firstly, monogamy is the preferred state in Islam, not polygamy. Secondly, these studies report that the women and children were neglected and not cared for, which is forbidden in Islam.
I know this will sound weird and attention-seeking, but:
Pray for me in these tough days. I'm giving a lot of family issues, and honestly, I feel like I'm completely alone at this point. Jazakumallahkheir.
Something popular Christian apologists like Inspiringphilosophy and David Wood do is jump to moral issues rather than logical ones when critisizing Islam. That always seemed like a very cheap tactic to me. Moral issues are the branches. Logical ones are the trunk itself.
@Dijas_isah9086
@Ishaaq__Newton
Actually, most would consider it an "open" relationship if both sides know beforehand and consent to this relationship. I heard many say: It's not for me personally, but whatever makes you two happy.
However, the actual consummation of the marriage happened at 9 or 10 years of age. With that being said, critics say that this is a completely immoral action from Prophet Mohammad and is evidence against Islam. To answer this, we must ask: What makes such an action immoral?
I'm surprised you would find this contentious after making a series on the moral argument. In Islam and Christianity, God is the originator of morals, and objective morality can not be claimed outside his command, even under virtue ethics.
Therefore, we must be aware of our cultural biases and try our best to set them aside to understand and discuss this issue logically and coherently. Inshallah, let's begin.
1) The Prophet's Marriage to Aisha
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Arguably, this is the most important and famous issue that should be dealt with. According to the orthodox opinion of Islamic historians and muhadithen, Prophet Mohammed marriaged Aisha at 6 in contract.
This is a pathetic and down-right disgusting lie against Islam. But yet again, I'm I really surprised these scams are going to be honest. The hadith of this is fabricated (موضوع).
did for a reason. There is a reason why the world before the industrial revolution didn't consider slavery as the desired state but also didn't outlaw it. When we understand that, our view of the issue and its moral and philosophical implications become easier to explain.
Firstly, the issue of physical and mental harm couldn't be true for Aisha since we have truly no evidence of either of them in our historical tradition. All scientific studies discussing such marriages talk about the averages or the norms, which can definitely have outliers.
Yes, one of the women's responsibilities in marriage is not to be sexually cold and indifferent to her husband, which is cruel if done for no valid reason and is a sin. The same goes for the husband. However, that doesn't mean marital rape is allowed.
Therefore, we can say that Aisha was a special case where such a marriage was not only devoid of serious harm that is unique to such a marriage compared to normal marriages but also was extremely happy and proud of such a relationship. We see countless evidence of this in hadith.
Homosexuality in animals is linked to dominance behavior: to show a possible mate that one of them is stronger. Why stop there? Animals rape to spread their genes. Animals commit incest. If your morals come from animals, thank you for proving that your actions are animalistic.
Muslims pay a tax, too. It's zakat. If you think zakat is only charity, you would be mistaken. In a muslim state and society, zakat is given to the state so that it can protect its citizens, build infrastructure, and help the poor. The jizyah is similar.
Pretending jizya is like a normal tax is a deliberate and filthy lie. It’s a tax imposed on Christians and Jews only, not on Muslims. It’s to create a two tier society w Muslims on top. And it’s called ‘protection’ money because like the Mafia, if you don’t pay, you’ll be killed.
I absolutely love how Atheists will desperately misquote and take out of context cosmologists to prove that their eternal universe models work, which they don't. The channel "Skydivephil" is infamous for this.
Allah is a cross dresser - he weirs a Niqab; FACT! His chosen pronouns are HE HIM, but HIS chosen dress is a veil of light; like a Niqab, it hides HIM from view.
We also have to remember that the man she was married to was the Prophet of God that has access to the revelation of the Omniscient God. We have evidence that God revealed to the prophet that such a marriage is blessed.
Though this seems like a question with a very obvious answer, we still must answer it. The answer boils down to two points:
1) Minors can not consent to such relationships, making them victims of statutory rape.
2) Such relationships result in serious physical or mental harm.
4) The Jizyah is meant to help those dhimmis in need by protecting them from war or by providing them with humanitarian care, just like how Umar did. In his tafsir of the verse of jizyah, the scholar Qatan says this:
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Therefore, any relationship that negates these two points becomes, logically, unfit to be called pedophilia or immoral in this issue. We can logically argue that Aisha was not a victim of either of these two issues.
I never imagined that few people defend the idea that Islam allows raping slaves even though there is not a single piece of scriptural evidence or evidence from the majority or ijma of the salaf to support this, while we are told to be good to slaves and treat them with mercy.
Is it weird for me to be surprised that the vast majority of humans don't ask fundamental questions about our existence, like what's the purpose of life and what happens after death, and don't try to even embark on the journy to find the true faith? Are they ignorant or lazy?
Either I'm going insane or you're blind. The hadith you brought literally says that the prophet asked the woman who raped her, and when she pointed to a man and said it was him, he was going to apply the punishment on him. He didn't ask for 4 witnesses. Rape is NOT just zina.
@InspiringPhilos
1) The part where he says, "Infidels are animals" is from his own. The only thing he is correct about is that Islam allows slavery and intercourse with slaves (without harm). Islam generally commands good treatment to slaves.
2) It's extremely ironic for a Christian to say this:
How about a better analogy. A father sends his children to school where they must mature and learn from their own mistakes and their peers'. This suffering is nothing compared to their adult life. With what they learned, they must choose to make their adult life good or bad.
Unpopular fact:
Quantum physics presupposes the principle of causality. It doesn't disprove it. It only says that determinism isn't true, which is exactly what naturalists don't want to hear.
Therefore, God revealed to the Prophet that he could marry her due to his knowledge of the future that such a marriage would be a blessing and a good to both of them and would not be harmful, which is proven to us by the historical evidence of the hadith tradition.
3) The greatest joy in heaven is to experience God and have a direct relationship with him. Also, the Christian heaven does contain the alleged "carnal" pleasures, which aren't even carnal. They are simply natural.
4) Islam says that God is the most wise, so this is simply wrong.
So you just made a show the images made by very late orientalalist painters of also very late Muslims doing something quite unislamic like revealing the bodies of women, whilst not mentioning the strict conditions and historical background of attaining slaves in the Islam sharia.
Wow, you guys are bad.
1) The nothing refers to God's creation of everything from nothing
2) Earth and Dust are the same ring and recer to Adam.
3) Liquid and Water and both the same thing and refer to the humans generally.
4) The "clot" refers to a phase in embryonic growth.
@SocDoneLeft
@AshCurious2000
Soooo, what's your explanation for:
1) Cosmic Fine-Tuning
2) Cosmic Beginning
3) Contingency
4) Moral Intuitions
5) Out of Body NDEs
6) Conciousness
7) Sincerity of Prophets
8) Eyewitnessed Miracles
9) Prophecies and Foretelling
10) Knowledge of Prophets
Understanding Asadullah Ali Al-Andalusi.
For a while now, I wanted to make a thread laying out some of my feelings and struggles with people on this app.
Atheists when they find out that an instinctual self-evident sense of morality, like the sense of intuitive and instinctual logic, is evidence of objective morality and, therefore, God.
All of the famous New Atheists are now being exposed as a bunch of unphilsosphical arrogant ultracrepidarians: including Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, and their youtube counterparts like Dilahunty, Farina, and Aron Ra. The only exception I would give Daniel Dennet, but I'm not sure.
This is, of course, not a defense of statutory rape since I am not convinced it should even be labeled as rape. When we say rape, we have a mental image of a man pinning down a screaming woman and violating her. Using the same word in this context is a false equivalence.
Secondly, the issue of statutory rape wouldn't really apply because under the major ethical theory of the West (Utilitarianism), what makes it wrong is that the minor person would be most probably a victim of physical/mental harm, which we established it didn't apply to Aisha.
Many have responded to this argument more thoroughly than the video he used. But I had a thought: How can IP be consistent and defend the genocide of the Amalekites and Cananites? Also, how can he defend the IT law that is so immoral that it can't be used under any circumstances.
1) Theistic God is known through Scripture.
2) Scripture teaches that God is Omniscient and Wise.
3) Scripture also teaches that through this wisdom, God has morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
4) Therefore, the theistic God has morally sufficient reason to allow evil.
@WhenBeliefDies
(A) If God exists, His power and goodness are infinite.
(B) An infinitely good God prevents all suffering He properly can.
(C) Biological evolution involves human and non-human animal suffering an infinitely powerful God can properly prevent.
Therefore,
(D) There is no God.
No one should take this account seriously. If you do, get help, gain actual knowledge, or learn to stop thinking that some internet trolls with nothing better to do with their lives are going to teach you anything meaningful about Islam and religion in general.
In the Quran, we are told that Allah sent a messenger to every nation. Yes, the term is very clear "every nation". The Quran mentions some 25 prophets/messengers. It gets worse, as some claim 124,000 messengers.
#islam
#Apostasy
#ExMuslim
Sometimes I cringe when I hear a muslim brother give a bad answer to a question from a non-Muslim that turns then away from Islam. The other day a non-Muslim asked if all non-Muslims go to hell regardless of their knowledge. He said yes, which is false (Quran 17:15, 6:28)
There are mandatory dress codes everywhere For example, some restaurants require you to wear business casual clothing.
Liberals like
@InspiringPhilos
do not have an issue with this being enforced yet have an issue with Hijab. Islamophobia, hypocrisy, both, or?
When looking at the hadith tradition, we see that Aisha didn't resist at all going to the Prophet's house and living with him. Therefore, it's evident she provided,at least, assent.
Note: Multiple Muslim thinkers have argued that Aisha was able to provide complete consent.
Don't touch these topics? It seems Christians' insecurity about their philosophy and creed is showing since they are doing the exact same thing I talked about in the tweet: focusing on moral issues rather than logical ones. Muslims and Christians follow Divine Command Theory.
People have a misconception that the more religious you are, the more arrogant, evil, or unjust. However, I say the more CORRECTLY religious you are, the more humble, righteous, kind, just, and merciful you are, just like the Prophet.