InfinityPools
@InfPools
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∞/acc A decentralized exchange that offers unlimited leverage on any asset, with no liquidations, no counterparty risk & no oracles.
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We've dropped the whitepaper for in a secret Discord.
LIKE & RETWEET to get early access.
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Introducing InfinityPools
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10k followers!! 🎉🎉🫡
Incredibly grateful to our community 🙏
All word of mouth, organic growth, 0 marketing spend.
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See you in the cave 🫡
Announcements & InfinityPools swag await.
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The time to unveil the beta has come.
It is a public beta - we just ask you answer a couple of extremely quick questions so we can iterate and give you the best product possible for when mainnet comes around.
Here is the link:
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Change of plans. We've reached 2,000 followers much faster than expected and as a result will be dropping our whitepaper this week. Turn on notifications for the announcement.
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Going to ETH Tokyo?
InfinityPools is cohosting two events:
Come meet the team IRL!
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InfinityPools is hiring a Head of Growth.
DM us if you're interested in revolutionizing derivatives & more.
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We've been keeping quiet about some of the stuff we've been cooking, but secret is out:
We won the Blast competition 🥳🥳
More updates coming very soon.
Big Bang judging is COMPLETE.
3000+ teams started building on Blast during the competition.
We hand-picked 47 winners with help from
@Izebel_eth
@danrobinson
@0xfoobar
@_jaechung
@loomdart
@cl207
@caseykcaruso
@santiagoroel
@rewkang
@will__price
@Evan_ss6
Winners below👇
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Audit is officially scheduled for March 1rst.
Mainnet launch is imminent.
🌊🌊
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If you haven't checked them out yet, the new InfinityPools docs contain all the info you need to understand the protocol from a DeFi & TradFi perspective:
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Haven't listened to our podcast yet?
Have listened to our podcast and want to learn more?
Don't know who we are and we keep spamming your timeline?
Join a Twitter space with our cofounder, our friends at Nascent and other surprise guests to get your mind blown:
Infinity Pools will allow for trading any asset with virtually unlimited leverage, all with no liquidations, no counterparty risk, and no oracles.
Sound too good to be true?
Join us for a Q&A session w
@InfPools
founder
@MLGavaudan
to get the scoop
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For a "correct" perpetual futures trade, the expected return sharply drops off after ~10x leverage.
Above 15x leverage, traders can expect to lose money, even when they are directionally accurate.
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Bet you wish you had 1000x leverage with no liquidations right now huh?
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To learn more about how the protocol works join our discord and read our whitepaper:
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Are you going to ETH Denver?
Come see our co-founder speak about derivatives and InfinityPools tomorrow (28th) at 4pm on the BuildHub Main Stage 🫡🫡
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We're having a Twitter space AMA with our friends over at Steer Protocol today at 5pm UTC.
Come listen and ask any question you've wondering about!
Link for the event & calendar reminder:
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Check out this freely available report Binance wrote on oracle-less protocols featuring InfinityPools!
Over $892M has been lost due to oracle-related exploits since 2020.
Curious how oracle-less protocols eliminate dependency on oracles? Are they the ideal solution?
We explore all that and more in this
#Binance
Research report.
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Listen to the first podcast where our cofounder talks about defi derivatives and the vision for InfinityPools:
Is
@InfPools
building crypto's next 0-to-1 innovation?
@MLGavaudan
explains how Infinity Pools offers:
- Unlimited Leverage on any Asset
- No Price Oracles
- No Liquidations
Spotify:
Apple:
YT:
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We've been quiet. The wait is over. The next month is going to be noisy.
We're hiring a quant.
Check out the job description (remove the 2s from link below):
https://docs.222google.222com/document/d/1n_G7vjZj6Fi-HoHdeSjeTLpr0x8CTXDvyrVR6zOGX2U/edit?usp=sharing
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One of our favorite threads so far.
Out of all DeFi innovation, nothing excites me more than
@InfPools
.
Let me show you how to achieve unlimited leverage on ALL assets. Liquidation free.
🧵
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Watch this new podcast for the first demo of the InfinityPools beta 🫡
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InfinityPools is hiring a backend engineer with Scala experience.
Once in a lifetime opportunity to be part of the founding team for a revolutionary derivatives protocol. DM us if interested.
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On top of that, traders have much much higher expected returns on their trades (they can expect to make more money):
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We're about to go live with our friends over at Smilee!
Make sure to tune in for a session on oracless, liquidation free derivatives 👀
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gmonad 🫡
Very excited to announce InfinityPools will be competing in Monad Madness.
More announcements coming very soon 👀
Introducing the Monad Madness NYC contestants!
@LEVR_bet
- Leveraged sports betting
@InfPools
- Unlimited leverage DEX
@corkprotocol
- Depeg risk pricing
@ammalgam
- Decentralized lending exchange
@saucegg_
- No fees trading app
@CadenceProtocol
- Chain agnostic perps aggregator
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The most in depth report on InfinityPools so far.
Writing about
@InfPools
is simple – a protocol that can offer trading for any asset with unlimited leverage, no counterparty risk, and no risk of liquidation.
A thread on InfinityPools 🧵👇
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Happy 2024 to everyone, see you all in the InfinityPools markets next quarter 🫡
Also hope no one got rekt in the TRB perp markets. Counterparty risk is boring till it happens to you.
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InfinityPools looks and feels like perps (with a couple 10x improvements) but its underlying mechanism is actually closer to options.
Curious how?
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The InfinityPools team is in Singapore - DM us if you'd like to meet!
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Thanks to this breakthrough, InfinityPools has 0 liquidation risks to mitigate and can offer unlimited leverage on any asset, with no liquidations, no counterparty risk and no oracles.
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Why is the InfinityPools "no counterparty risk" aspect so exciting?
In the scenario described below, InfinityPools never takes a loss and therefore doesn't need clawbacks in the first place - unlike all other perpetual futures.
FTX never implemented liquidations. If a customer was liquidated at price worse than the bankruptcy price, FTX never implemented any system to deal with that loss.
Q. What's a clawback?
A. A clawback is a mechanism for resolving any losses that arise from a liquidation. And by
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Twitter space is starting, join to learn more about InfinityPools and potentially ask questions!
With
@InfPools
, traders will be able to get leverage on any asset, with no oracles, no permissions, no liquidation.
How?
Join us in 1 hour for Infinity Pools 101.
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InfinityPools' first community call starts in 10min 🫡
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The InfinityPools team will be at ETH Denver!
If you are a trader or liquidity provider, DM us for free coffee and a 1 on 1 chat with our cofounder 🫡
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It’s to prepare for our arrival actually
They love infinity pools so much in Dubai they designed the entire city to become an infinity pool whenever it rains 😮💨
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Perpetual futures are by far the most traded financial instrument in crypto.
Yet, crypto influencers tend to recommend avoiding them. Turns out they were partially right.
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One of the most in depth reports on InfinityPools now publicly available 🫡
There have been many requests to read our Analyst Insight on
@InfPools
, so we've made it available to read with or without an account.
Read the entire Insight here:
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Despite this, the truth is that leverage is necessary.
Investing is only worth a person’s time if the return upside is high enough.
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Unfortunately, most forms of leverage currently available are constrained and often lead to undesirable outcomes (eg. liquidations on short term, large price moves).
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GM fellow infinitypoolers
As we are now very close to mainnet, we will be hosting a Twitter space every Thursday at 12pm ET.
Every week will have new content and alpha as well as an occasional special guest. Tomorrow's link:
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This is where InfinityPools had its breakthrough: we figured out a way to guarantee that all traders’ positions would close perfectly at anytime and any price.
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Don't want counterparty risk to bankrupt you or worse (interrupt your turks & caicos margarita vacation)?
Use InfinityPools 👍
Q3 Mainnet
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Perpetual futures markets are only functional as long as the liquidation of traders is being done efficiently enough.
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In order to mitigate liquidation risks, exchanges impose hefty penalties on their users, limit the leverage & assets available, and have significant counterparty risk via the forced settlement of markets.
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The team is going to be in Singapore for Token2049 🇸🇬
DM us if you'd like to meet and get some free coffee 🫡
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First of many good news coming this month: our 5 week long audit report is out with 0 critical vulnerabilities 🤝
Summer is over, and we have new audits coming in ☺️
Check out our latest report for
@InfPools
It's a massive project, so enjoy going through it!
Repo:
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Come listen to
@ReveloIntel
round table with fellow panelists Contango, IntentX, and Vertex starting in 2 minutes:
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@0xngmi
Haha we had actually thought about this back in the day, lmk if anyone wants to chat about this. Happy to help think some stuff thru.
CC:
@statelayer
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@Blast_L2
@izebel_eth
@danrobinson
@0xfoobar
@_jaechung
@loomdart
@CL207
@caseykcaruso
@santiagoroel
@Rewkang
@will__price
@Evan_ss6
Honored to have been selected 🫡
Looking forward to the InfinityBlast collab.
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@pingumobbarley
I think there might be some confusion on how the protocol works here. You are borrowing cash for a predetermined period of time.
eg. you can borrow $1000 for 5 minutes and you pay $0.10 in interest
at a high level it's the same as paying a premium on options...
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@LanrayIge
It was a great thread! But disagree on the LPs selling cheap vol. See our reply here:
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@OneTrueKirk
@0xGeeGee
@0x94305
@0auth_
LPs are like options writers in Uniswap already, so yes hopefully they understand this already.
Also past volatility only gives a floor to the lending rate, actual rate is pushed up by market demand.
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@pingumobbarley
It means that with $1 deposited (+ interest) you can go long or short any asset with $1000
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@n0egen
@nutstasher
@0auth_
@thiccythot_
@0x94305
@OneTrueKirk
@GammaSwapLabs
Might be fun to write an article on the differences between the three protocols. If time permits will try to do that soon :)
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@0x94305
@OneTrueKirk
Curious to hear why you prefer old fashioned lending?
PnL for InfinityPools LPs = "fair" interest rate (offsets IL) - IL + utilization rate
Simplifies down to getting paid utilization rate but with no credit risk whatsoever
Seems objectively better no?
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@Ekonomeest
@MLGavaudan
@Panoptic_xyz
trading beta is actually already out haha
no smart contracts yet though
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@0x94305
@OneTrueKirk
Regardless, in this case the LP would get back the interest rate paid to them by the trader (fair interest rate + utilization rate which would be incredibly high given amount of people shorting)
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@mehranhydary
Overall uni v4 is a net good for defi and InfinityPools.
Currently unclear how our next version will interact with it, but definitely something we've been looking into.
As for our v1, if uni v3 liquidity flows into v4 it doesn't affect the protocol at all.
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@chrisliambender
@delitzer
In fact some people might prefer to never have their liquidity be hit be the market price, in which case they can continuously move their liquidity range away from spot price so they can stay in a single asset
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@pingugems
@whoiskevin
Eh this takes time to coordinate with frontend - faster to do it this way
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@OneTrueKirk
@0xGeeGee
@0x94305
@0auth_
Makes sense - we don't think it would add value because:
a) high gas cost constantly updating premia
b) LPs are looking for passive income
c) the premia would end up essentially hist. vol. + skew (demand) anyway
d) our utilization ratio factor has good optimality properties
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@chrisliambender
@delitzer
Fantastic question! The cool thing about LPing in InfinityPools is that you generate yield even when your liquidity is not in range. Therefore the incentive to focus liquidity around market price is not as important.
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@samoa_joes
@Slappjakke
@monad_xyz
@Entanglefi
@alt_layer
@dymension
@berachain
@DarkFiSquad
@QuaiNetwork
@AvailProject
@eigenlayer
@KelpDAO
@ether_fi
@vectorreserve
@swellnetworkio
@ritualnet
Thanks for thinking of us, we are indeed launching very soon 🫡
Why do you think we'll be expensive though?
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@0x94305
@OneTrueKirk
I think there may be a misunderstanding here. When you lend out your LUNA on an overcollateralized lending protocol, you still end up with 0 + interest. But on top of that you still have credit risk while its price is not 0.
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@OneTrueKirk
@0xcarnation
@MonetSupply
@0x94305
Yields on InfinityPools are always above cost of delta hedging. So it's actually always +EV.
LP's expected PnL = fair interest rate (offsets IL) - IL + utilization rate
Simplifies down to getting paid utilization rate (same as Aave) but without any credit risk.
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@crypto_yuvi
@BearishEquity
There is no counterparty risk because there are no liquidations - the two are interlinked. Curious to know where you believe the counterparty risk to be?
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@0x94305
@OneTrueKirk
Ah got it. I think the crux of our miscommunication is because we’re trying to draw a direct comparison versus overcollateralized lending protocols when a better analogy is probably selling puts on LUNA.
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@samoa_joes
@Slappjakke
@monad_xyz
@Entanglefi
@alt_layer
@dymension
@berachain
@DarkFiSquad
@QuaiNetwork
@AvailProject
@eigenlayer
@KelpDAO
@ether_fi
@vectorreserve
@swellnetworkio
@ritualnet
Haha yeah tougher for me to tell you whether a potential InfinityPools token would be undervalued 😂
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@aloecapital
"But Infinity Pools only work if LPs accept the capped payoff permanently." This is false?
LPs can exit their loans at any point lmao
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@0x94305
@OneTrueKirk
When you sell a put on LUNA, you get the premium + LUNA back (which is worth 0).
Also tbh i dont think that overcollateralized loans made with LUNA as collateral were made whole?
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