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They are literally pointing it out to say the BPP is bad and that organizing for the black community is aimless. There's a difference between critiquing so we can build beyond what they did, and using what happened as an excuse to justify not caring about other black people.
And I need ppl to understand that pointing out some of the failures in dealing with misogyny doesn’t mean BPP bad. These critiques are necessary! We should all strive to center women & marginalized genders issues at the forefront of our movement rather than as an afterthought
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Elaine Brown, former leader of the Panthers, who later said referring to the Panthers as chauvinist was wrong, and Eldridge Cleaver, who was kicked out in 71 and later became a Republican, prove the BPP which was 67% women was oppressing women apparently.
Done arguing. No such thing as a gender war. And there is literal proof where black women spoke on their experiences. And black panther leader, Eldridge Cleaver, literally admitted to r*ping black women. Conversation over!
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Ericka Huggins in an interview from 2016:
@quarantinebee
well for starters, the first hand accounts of Ericka Huggins, a BPP member. secondly, Soul on Ice by Eldridge Cleaver. he detailed his rape of BW and correlated it to establishing power in his race. he was welcomed with open arms by many Black leaders and orgs.
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So you agree the BPP had internal mechanisms to deal with chauvinist members and empower the women of the organization? Like she said they didn't pull these people out of revolutionary heaven, this clip is not agreeing with you
Aw. Out of context. She was referring to the BPP AFTER women started taking over and pushing for progressive concepts. The chauvinism was an issue so they actively worked to change that. She wanted people to recognize that the women had positions of power and weren’t just in the
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@eightdeucemack
@JerichoFPS
@DeMarFanClub
@MrAlbania_
@LegionHoops
@LandonBuford
No he wasn't. The Warriors were 15th in post up possessions, dead average.
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@luhKJ_876
@xspotsdamark
Milk men aren't genocidal and fascist necessarily so I'm taking those corny niggas over the divesters. Milk man son or swirl daughter is the real question.
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There was 240 black men killed by police shootings in 2020. There's been convictions for 2 of their deaths. Both cases that were convicted were recorded.
There were 2 women killed by police shootings in 2020. Neither was recorded, neither saw convictions.
Your post is shameful.
@its_lindz
And not Breoanna. Black women are hidden in the dark and hardly recognized for the same hate crimes black men face to police brutality. When white supremacy chose to give us a “win” they chose the male class instead of rightfully incarcerating both killers.
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They already was, just came out the closet. You can tell because they saying dumb shit like "stop helping black men that get pulled over by the cops" like they ever did that before. 😂
That whole situation created a whole new flock of divestors
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@AnthonyGSupreme
He literally told me he makes content disparaging black men for engagement and deleted when he got heat for it.
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Y'all will do anything but judge the Panthers like the women of the Panthers would want them and their movement to be judged. Y'all COINTELPRO for likes.
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@DragonflyJonez
It's the one play analytics and old school people agree on but coaches never do it.
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Fun Fact: Uncle Tom is a fictional character that died while being punished because he refused to sellout escaped slaves.
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I remember this character, this was the PhD sociologist that said boyhood and combat sports was a bigger determinant of crime than poverty and childhood trauma, and that systemic racism doesn't cause crime in black communities. IIRC she did work with the BJS too. 😂
We got Black friends and families and we are niggas ourselves. I'm sitting at a Black university in the Blackest region in America.
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In a real chauvinist organization there would be no way for women to take power and punish offenders. If you ever want a mass movement to take off you have to understand a lot of members will be imperfect. As long as you have internal ways of dealing with them what's the issue?
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Gender essentialism but only for cis men doesn't exist. Sorry to burst your bubble.
y'all have zero analysis of masculine gender expansivity, don't listen to those of us who do, then react to the violence of cis men and decide to incorporate us together with them but in a way obfuscated with "queer" language
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And like everyone is saying it's obvious these people never actually cared, they just needed an excuse to push more divest rhetoric on Twitter because that's the only time they associate with other black people.
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Cropping Women's to say Men's is NASTY work.
Ayo twitter activists are so stupid 💀💀
Shorty posted this to prove how the BPP was toxic to women. Ma’am this article is clearly cut off.
It’s “womens - and gay- liberation”. If y’all actually studied or knew the history of the organizations y’all tryna critique, you would
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@RenyTure
The phenomenon that leads to it has been studied.
Man there's an academic study to prove why This You always works? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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Men can be misandrists just like women can by misogynists.
Is that why y'all refuse to acknowledge systemic misandry? Because you think it's making a negative statement about women?
I don’t even claim to be a misandrist. But tryna put misandry on the same level of misogyny is so idiotic and inaccurate. Women’s “hatred” of males in RESPONSE to their violence isn’t the same of males hatred of women b/c of……?!
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Y'all have a fundamental misunderstanding of what misogyny is. You're not wrong to pick up on the fact that men that do good with women are also usually misogynists, but incels clearly are too.
I've witnessed on multiple occasions actually nice meek guys just give up after frustration and develop into woman hating rants after feeling hurt and never pick themselves up.
Simply getting a girl would make them women's biggest supporter.
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Conveniently ignoring the women saying the same. Let's just be real here, this conversation has two sides - the people that want to see black people do the work and free ourselves and the people looking for book deals.
Leftist men are predictably trying to say this is CIA-speak as if former Black female panthers like Assata Shakur and Angela Davis didn’t write about the sexism they endured during their time in that space.
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Y'all grew up around them folks.
i hope i don’t sound ridiculous but are cishet Black men even in community with…each other?
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It's funny how we gotta justify helping men and boys by assuring people women will benefit in the end.
🗣️‘If men are living better & happier lives, it’s better for women too’
Conservative MP
@NickFletcherMP
is calling for a Minister for Men.
He told
@bbcnuala
why he believes that men face such difficulties in today’s society that they need a specific champion.
Click to listen⬇️
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If only someone else was talking about Alice Walker's bigoted beliefs and direct ties to white supremacist cults.
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Y'all keep proving the point, you're going to these schools, learning shit that doesn't at all connect with most of the community, and in turn the community rejects your WS narratives. You're in the blackest university in the blackest region of the US and still believe this shit.
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@eihtbeezy
The short non word salad version is "don't include masculine presenting women with cis men when you're bashing men for existing"
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@eihtbeezy
They just can't make it consistent. Either it's implanted in the Y chromosome meaning feminine presenting and LGBT males are included or it's socialized which means masculine presenting females are included but they want to have their cake and eat it too.
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@javrrivera
I'll take this as you (as a black man) saying you personally don't care about the black community because I know you're not describing the people I've seen in real life.
Pretending the BLMGNF had anything to do with helping black people in 2023 is hilarious tbh.
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Really Atlanta again?
I honestly believe colorism was started by a black man .
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@SkyTheDON___
They know what's happening. I'm tired of everyone beating around the bush, what they want to say is they don't feel they're in community with black men and the women that are in community with black men but they're beating around the bush because they know that sounds insane.
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@APunishedBill
@ChristinaTasty
Family owned business being conflated with Walmart is funny. Like do these people not know who the Waltons are?
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Funny this is all happening with the HBCU elitism discourse going on at the same time...
@D_WadesJaw
which is funny because the demographic within the black community that cares about and for black people the most is black women😂 literally had to say ALL black lives matter bc BM would discriminate who within the black community matters💀
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Growing up I learned from black men and women that the world is so dangerous for black men, the women in my life are the first people concerned when I'm out late and not in contact, but I come on Twitter and suddenly the most killed demographic can't relate to being victimized.
What’s wild is that Black men are slightly ahead of Black women as far as intimate partner violence victimization, and more than sextuple BW numbers as far as homicide victimization.
Literally no part of her statement below is true, but hey, likes and retweets.
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I know a couple niggas that'll knock your chin off your face and vouge in celebration.
@BlackMaleFirst
They are generally welcoming of homosexuality. No one cares point out that the masculinity that black men are pushing for is at odds with the gay agenda. Liberal masculinity is an oxymoron!
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@eihtbeezy
They want organizations made up of flawed humans to have spotless records. Or to be more accurate they’re just using this as justification to do nothing/aid in mutual destruction like they’ve been conditioned to.
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Prior to reading the works of Dr. Curry or following the other BMS scholars did you personally have any idea how commonly black men were victims of sexual violence?
I’m waffling but what is the main point of these studies, they’re not expounding on anything we don’t understand which is the system is racist asf and inherently hates black men we already know this teach them this and to move accordingly
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This makes no sense... The nigga is actively holding a brick and threatening someone with it, is that what all men are doing?
the fact that y’all assume it would be risking your life to deescalate another male abusing a woman in your direct vicinity suggests that y’all believe all men are extremely violent & you fear them. so then at least you all agree women are not safe with men.
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Let's cut to the chase while we're talking about being obtuse/veils of dishonesty, do you personally see yourself as being in community with black men?
Are you being intentionally obtuse?
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Yes. Get armed, defend yourself with deadly force if necessary.
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@thotscholar
Reminds me of this from the other day. They understand race can't be separated from gender, they're just deep in self hatred they don't want to acknowledge.
Anti-black misandry is just racism, but misogynoir isn't? Ain't that something...
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So... Yes... Unless you're getting paid for it you're not putting black males first you're putting yourself first, second, third, and last.
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1. No one is ignoring him.
2. Her claim that he "correlated [rape] to establishing power in his race" is completely false.
3. One man doesn't define the movement more than any one the women y'all are continuously attempting to misquote.
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@RenyTure
Not towards dating them but how BW perceive couples. Basically there's about a 25% gap in BW support of black couples and BM/WW couples, black men on the other hand are basically even on all couples and they're at about the same level of warmness that BW are with white couples.
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@drhoodscholar
Yeah I've been saying for a minute anyone that says that or denied female abuse of men most likely is an abuser themselves, same as the men that deny it happens the other way. If you convince yourself it's fake it's no big deal.
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"There is no community" means what exactly here? No community between who and who?
Do you know what literally mean? they would have to say bpp bad for it to be literately. And they said that they don’t mean and neither did I! Ur being dishonest or willfully obtuse by making your own interpretation. Just say that and stop putting words in ppl’s mouth plssss
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I was just telling someone about this the other day too, I wish I remembered who it was so I can @ them. It was on my other account too.
And we wonder why the BJS statistics consistently fail to highlight the issues of black men, women, and children and instead highlight unevenly reported crime statistics.
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Ariana Grande is an Italian white woman. Not even a little bit hispanic. Y'all need to throw the capes off.
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This person most likely is a pedo.
You'll never convince me that female teachers having sex with their teen male students is a serious crime, or even remotely comparable to the same scenario with the sexes reversed
It's very curious to me how people always show up and attempt to equate them in heinousness
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Zero media literacy. In an age where we all have access to the Internet, learning how to find accurate information might be a better skill than actually being knowledgeable on most subjects. People be exposing their poor Googling skills daily.
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People Born in 1990-1999
Let’s see a picture or video of yourself
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There's a conversation to be had here about labels suppressing positive female rappers, but pretending people don't critique those male rappers for being degenerate is just wrong when we live in a world where male rappers lose sponsorships/have songs taken down constantly.
To be honest she’s right in both. Female and Male rap is straight dook these days. Men have no reason to be up in arms about the depravity of female rap considering that theirs is no better and female rap absolutely has nosed dived to the point it might be worse.
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@NotAnt14_
I remember a few years back they did the numbers and a black man in St. Louis county has a higher chance of being killed by the police than an average American has of being murdered by anyone.
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Bald gang whole lotta bald shit
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Was literally told this doesn’t happen a few days ago on here.
A white teen “pulled on the [Black child’s] life jacket and submerged him underwater 4 to 5 times, causing the victim breathing distress”
The other juvenile “laughed at the victim during the attempted drowning and referred to the victim as 'George Floyd.'"
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"What about black on black crime????" But woke.
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@magggotbrain
@DrTJC
@eihtbeezy
I posted proof of the women you specifically named saying the organization did what they could to protect black women as black women were a majority of the rank and file of the Panthers.
And your source was a biography as well was it not? Now that's not scholarly enough?
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Lmao that one dewy nigga with the bad mustache is still out here trying to say black femmes and queers were on the forefront of critiquing the BLMGNF and erasing Darren Seals and the other men and women on the frontlines. 😂
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So you're saying all women don't have the power to systemically oppress but all men do and the societal role and expectations of "women" isn't contributing to the western white supremacist patriarchy?
Mind telling me what you read to lead you to this conclusion?
Lol you ain’t seen the qrts/replies have you
To answer your question, no. Women systematically do not have the power to oppress. Men generally do the oppressing.
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Positive was you gave me a great book recommendation and I learned a lot about my history off that convo lol.
I had this conversation with People of Jewish Color Twitter a year ago, almost to the day, and all that happened was you guys getting mad at citations
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@PayMyMfnPhone
Wait... if I'm getting it correct are you saying their issue is they don't get in the mud and slander? They're actually academics and scholars the professionalism is one of the reasons people follow them
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Sophie Turner is a multimillionaire like him not some helpless college student.
Damn the quotes are just…empty headed. It’s not the actual age gap, it’s the fact that a 23 year old normally just leaves college and is ready to have fun. At 30 your knees crack and you host scrabble parties
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@RenyTure
I know you technically been back on Twitter for a minute but it really feels like you're back now that you cooked Jatella.
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@magggotbrain
@DrTJC
@eihtbeezy
It's an autobiography you misquoted/misunderstood and we've proven that by posting her directly challenging your claims of the Panthers.
And basically what you're saying now is that even though no one has ever said Alexis DeVeaux lied on Lorde the source isn't valid?
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Not only is Oyewumi not a feminist but she openly speaks against applying feminist concepts and theories to groups outside of nuclear western families.
African feminist Oyèrónkẹ́ Oyěwùmí on this particular argument:
“the most important point is not that gender is socially constructed but the extent to which biology itself is socially constructed and therefore inseparable from the social.”
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They're going to say white supremacists only disrespect black women because black men do. Watch it's coming.
Uh oh looks like the nazis found these videos
Will divestors go after them? Find out on the next episode of dragon ball Z
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@NobleQAli
Wait so unenglish majoring his argument he's basically saying because BMS studies the material reality that black men are targeted which has been a thing prior to TJC, random people on Twitter that are assumed to be black men can then be said to represent the field of BMS?
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Don't speak this into existence. We need white supremacists self selecting themselves out the community as much as possible.
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Atatiana Jefferson's 2019 killing was recorded too and guess what? Her murderer Aaron Dean got convicted!
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How exactly did male slaves have the power to oppress their female masters?
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@chigowk
They tell on themselves calling it "women's hatred of males" like what the hell even is that phrasing and what am I supposed to take from it?
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I'm just saying if we started calling the gendered incarceration gap an issue of desirability I'm sure everyone would immediately understand why that framing isn't helpful or serious.
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Did they tell you they associate with BMS themselves? Last time y’all used a random to discredit the scholars the dude came out to say he doesn’t follow the framework.
the requirement that he be a scholar to be a representative of the framework is weird. besides that: I’ve been consistent that Reny’s “pushback” is self-annulling insofar as it was a complete failure of address.
the onus to disrupt homophobia in y’all space is not on my friends.
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What alternate universe do y'all live in?
Watching Breonna Taylor become a meme and a gimmick for virality while George Floyd was memorialized CHANGED ME as a person.
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Can we be honest for a second. No one is chasing folks out. They leave because in the process of bettering themselves a lot of people start to think their success is a virtue and that they're above others that aren't as successful.
@DaKamikaze94
We barely have community to lecture too. And after urkel syndrome, the ones who care been chased out. So you'll mostly get hustlers and cointelpro plants, especially since they've usually secured the bag
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@TheBasedPluto
Not sports but combat sports. Basically saying that because kids box and wrestle they commit violent crime, but as anyone with a brain knows those things usually keep high risk kids away from crime.
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@PayMyMfnPhone
They're on code when it comes to actual professionals holding these views, it's just the ransoms on Twitter you don't see them go at. Hell they're mostly known for weeding out academic misandry.
But it's not much you can do about judges on Twitter.
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Take away Stan, Superman, and maybe Cleaning Out My Closet and do we really miss Em that much? His features on 2001 I guess?
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@CarmineWilding
@BenjaminPDixon
Neither could most men. Anyone is capable of violence and more people should learn self defense/be armed to avoid these situations but that goes for men and women unless you agree with the concept of the patriarchy.
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Having no responsibility or commitments but they're going to call it freedom to make themselves look good.
Y’all hate being parents, yall hate the idea of getting married, yall hate relationships, yall hate working to provide.. what do yall like?!??
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You said y'all twice here that's not Creole or proper English. 😂
I don’t sound like y’all, be in y’all space or do anything that gives that.
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It’s wild to me people find this so hard to believe. I think y’all coping tbh, most people get married or in a decades long relationship. If it helps anything 6 is the median I think, the average is like 9.
Just a reminder the average man only has 6 sexual partners a lifetime
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The BPP was started in 66. She joined in 68. The black leather and berets were gone by 69.
She literally told Huey “it seemed too much of a man’s world for me” when she resigned. and in THIS article from the University of Chicago it states that her rise to power is what made them start challenging the chauvinism within the party. Stop posting things without context
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I tell people trying to get into tech all the time you need to be flat out better and more qualified than your non black peers if you want to thrive.
*Google’s race salary disparity gets leaked*
The response: “Black people need to learn to negotiate better.”
LOL
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@RaffiReign
Women rule, men drool but somehow it's made it's way into colleges and mainstream advocates for structural issues.
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Y'all suicidal and grouping us in your self hatred.
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