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UTXO-based isomorphic binding scheme/RGB++ explanation
The RGB++ protocol has preliminarily gone live, with the first asset $SEAL reaching a market cap of $50-60 million, but currently it is only trading on BTC and does not seem too different from other BTC assets.
However, if
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For all English-speakers interested in CKB,
CKB is a PoW + Extended UTXO (Cell) blockchain designed in line with Satoshi Nakamoto. It enables isomorphic binding by binding BTC's UTXO to a CKB Cell, and runs BTC SPV validation scripts on the CKB chain to secure isomorphic
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Bitcoin Renaissance : Why & How?
-----translated by Claude
On March 9, at the Bitcoin Singapore 2024 conference co-hosted by the Nervos Foundation and ABCDE, Jan Xie, the chief architect of Nervos Network($CKB), delivered a keynote speech entitled "Bitcoin Renaissance: Why &
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Deployed the UniPass Wallet contract to the Scroll Pre-Alpha Testnet, and tested some basic functions. I'm amazed at the excellent compatibility that Scroll currently achieves in the EVM-equivalent zkEVM field.
@UniPassID
@Scroll_ZKP
#CryptoWallet
#AccountAbstraction
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鉴于该分享问题颇多，写一Thread逐条反驳：
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The first quantum-resistant public chain?
And if a chain wants to be quantum-resistant, it must be PoW, because all PoS rely on signature algorithms that are not quantum-resistant. If ETH only adds quantum-resistant to execution layer, consensus layer will still be vulnerable
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@codefish14
@aristocrats44
这不是手续费成本，只是相当于拿CKB搏一搏，没博成功的话，材料还可以取出来继续博别的项目，如果参与的项目火了，那这个成本就不是什么问题了。
这样其实可以大大减少BTC上的粉尘UTXO，因为没价值的话，必须烧掉，但是烧掉以后总量减少，说不定价格又能涨，这里面的博弈机制很多。
另外UTXO
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I'm supporting the $CKB ecosystem by helping to spread awareness about a new autonomous Dapp protocol called
@tempest_labs
!
Join me in becoming an early bird to receive free airdrops exclusively for the
@NervosNetwork
community: add your referral link
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是啊，Bitcoin的 Layer2 为什么不用图灵完备的UTXO？把大家现在对BTC script的期待放到Layer2当试验场。
Layer2应该 用和 Bitcoin 类似的模型，才能反哺Bitcoin Layer1，如果某个设计在Layer2发现非常有用，可以推进合并到Layer1。
用账户模型对 Bitcoin Layer1 有什么好处？
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PoW的安全性是由太阳神来守护的。
CKB 的算力从 2 PH 到 200 PH 花费了 4 年时间, 今天如果想再做一条新算法的 POW UTXO 公链, 感觉已经是 mission impossible 了
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@nake13
@NervosNetwork
在Nervos的Cell模型上一样可实现。Fuel说的Malleable Tx和Nervos设计的Open Tx等效。
同时交易可以引用本区块产生的UTXO，也就是链式交易，可以解决状态争用。
问题是需要交易排序机制，定序器的作用。
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数码物，是一个从哲学角度来论述为什么UTXO比Account Model更好的视角。
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Clear
Let's talk a bit on the security element of RGB++ protocol that leverages CKB layer to make BTC txns more seamless!
Intro - It enables users to seamlessly transfer their assets between BTC and CKB in either direction at any time.
There is not any need for a crosschain bridge
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很高兴受邀参与在11月25-27日TokenDance2022大会，我也会在会上分享一些东西。
Web3领域一路跌跌撞撞，但仍在壮大，Web3里的华人BUIDL也经历许多波折，但仍是Web3最重要的建设力量。
@Tokendance
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@cryptoquick
@lnp_bp
In the entire BTC ecosystem, who has the authority to say what is the best and what is wrong, just like the Ethereum Foundation? When someone comes up with their own design and advances it, there should be no problem.
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And...the BONELIST MINT IS LIVE! All you bonelist holders, mint your ape here!->
#nervape
#bonelistmint
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@codefish14
@frank_lay2
这是一个魔法，虽然占用了CKB，但是CKB依然是你的，因为每一个UTXO都是一个数码物，如果这个UTXO资产已经比创造它的材料更便宜了，则可以把材料取出来卖掉。
最重要的是，由于需要锁定材料，那么当应用越多，每个人手上的UTXO，不仅资产在涨，底层的材料也在涨价。
这是一个正向飞轮。
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Due to a large number of registrations, the number of requests from Unipass to
@UnifraPlatform
RPC nodes quickly reached the upper limit of free services. I felt the enthusiasm from the Scroll community.
@Scroll_ZKP
@UniPassID
The first production-ready smart contract wallet on
@Scroll_ZKP
is here.
Onboard ppl using email/social logins.
Pay gas with any token.
Bullish on Scroll. BUIDL!
Demo:
@redstone_defi
,
@atem_network
,
@reddio_com
,
@zCloakNetwork
,
@Orbiter_finance
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DOBs 🦍🦴
I love DOBs. DOBs are not NFTs.
DOBs aren't just pictures. Pics are visual representations of DOBs, created from its DNA and decoder.
DOBs are fully on-chain. All necessary rendering parts, such as DNA, decoder, and pattern/fixtures, are stored on the chain.
DOBs are Bitcoin
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PoW+UTXO 🔥
@NervosNetwork
is one of several Bitcoin scaling solutions that takes a more native approach by modifying the UTXO model.
It aims to strengthen its position within the L2 space by simplifying the UX and dev. experience.
Read the comprehensive overview:
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Halve Ape Blast creating a Halve Nervape to celebrate
@NervosNetwork
Halving Event! 🦧 Place it on
@Nervapes
collaborative canvas to win an NFT of the full canvas! 🥂 →
#Nervos
#NervosHalving
#CKB
#blockchain
#HalveApeBlast
#Nervape
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@BobBodily
1. Use single-use seal to take advantage of BTC's anti-double-spending ability.
2. Use another Turing-complete UTXO chain to enhance client-side validation.
3. Use UTXO-based isomorphic binding to bind UTXO assets on BTC to another UTXO chain.
4. Have the ability to transfer
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#Binance
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@NervosNetwork
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CKB Is An Ideal Bitcoin Layer 2
As a monetary system, Bitcoin is inherently layered. But what should a Bitcoin monetary layer 2 look like? It should be an integral part of the entire system, sharing the same foundational values and design decisions. Ideally, it would be
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UTXO-based isomorphic binding scheme/RGB++ explanation
The RGB++ protocol has preliminarily gone live, with the first asset $SEAL reaching a market cap of $50-60 million, but currently it is only trading on BTC and does not seem too different from other BTC assets.
However, if
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@ziyemengcanyue
@crypcipher
Uniswap also restricts users from trading certain tokens in certain countries, but this is only a front-end restriction and has nothing to do with the exchange contract itself.
Anyone can deploy their own front-end to bypass Uniswap's own front-end restrictions, and the same is
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BTW, cuz of Native AA & Arbitrary cryptographic primitive support, anti-quantum signature is easily supported.
You have been hearing about how Account Abstraction and
#ERC4337
allows you to use iPhone PassKey & Biometrics as keys. In theory you can. In practice each verification will cost you 1-2M gas so it still can't work.
Unless you are on
@NervosNetwork
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@cryptoquick
@lnp_bp
When participating in BTC ecosystem, they propose their ideas and implement them. In doing so, they are promoting the BTC. Exploration in different directions will help accelerate progress and discover new possibilities. RGB++ doesn’t seem to say that it is related to LNP/BP.
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0/N) "What is CKByte?" is the hardest question to answer for me. Any short answer can only tell part of the whole. In this thread I'll try to explain its many facets with the hope that in future someone can answer the question better than me.
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@seaotter1991
CKB共识算法是基于PoW的NC-MAX，论文发在顶会NDSS上，采用两步确认和流水线机制，可做到极限 300 TPS，且可抵抗女巫攻击。经济模型上有一级发行和二级发行，一级发行四年减半，二级是为了避免一级发行挖完所有代币影响安全性，故持续以低通胀率激励矿工。
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@TheVanderWal
It reuses the safety and reorg resistance of L1, but does not bring additional energy consumption, and the marginal cost is extremely low.
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@ShellFinance_
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Claim whitelist here:
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@AurtrianAjian
在Nervos，准确来说是CKB上实现Uniswap或者Aave这类需要共享可变状态的应用，最大的困难是状态争用与链下确定性这两个特性产生冲突，需要有机制对该局部冲突进行排序。
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@msfew_eth
This is not the case. A miner can switch from one mining pool to another in ten seconds. You must know that the mining pool does not own the miner's power. On the contrary, Coinbase, Kraken, and Binance do own the user's ETH, and then stake it, and it takes a long time to switch
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@sondotpin
@runealpha_btc
Is RuneAlpha interested in leveraging isomorphic bindings for programmability?
UTXO-based isomorphic binding scheme/RGB++ explanation
The RGB++ protocol has preliminarily gone live, with the first asset $SEAL reaching a market cap of $50-60 million, but currently it is only trading on BTC and does not seem too different from other BTC assets.
However, if
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@Angel14302252
@NervosNetwork
@investvoyager
You should study the economic model carefully, or you may regret it later.
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@cryptoquick
@lnp_bp
Yes, this needs to be discussed. It may be that when they were designing the protocol, they felt that the protocol was greatly inspired by RGB, and out of gratitude, they chose RGB++. As for whether they will change their name in the future, it depends on their considerations.
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PoW本身就包含了对时间流逝的验证，一个PoW链可以作为去中心化的时间戳源。
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@fede_intern
@solana
State verification Layer (Layer 1) should be simple, robust, abstract, and dedicated to verifying Layer2’s state transitions and SoV.
State generation Layer (Layer2 and more) is committed to higher performance and easier application development.
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@DaPangDunCrypto
@RSync25
@AdamBorco
我认为RGB是一种奠基性的技术理念，就像zkp一样。在最近几年，由于zkp领域拥有众多人才和项目进入，发展得非常迅速。RGB本质上和zkp一样，是某种基石性的东西，就像zkp有非常多不同的证明系统一样，而几乎所有的zk工程师都在相互学习和相互帮助。
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已在先知晓的东西，通过一本书或者别人的清晰阐释后，感觉和之前也大不相同，不再是一句偶尔提起说完就抛之脑后的正确废话。像从门外踏了一步进去，它变成了我面对的一个议题，再反观以往的忽视，总想着「要是早知道就好了」，但早些时候是或傲慢或疏懒的。
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@Single_Use_Seal
@matt_bitcoin
@AdamBorco
@BaClaire_
@DaPangDunCrypto
@lnp_bp
@crypcipher
@knwang
I think RGB++ is a sincere projects and aligns with the RGB philosophy, based on single use seal and CSV. Although It has made some unique design due to engineering considerations. However, compared to others, RGB++ has received the most attention and criticism from LNP/BP.
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@CryptoJayG
PoW+Cell(Turing-Complete Extended UTXO) is exactly a special blockchain, now there are so many eth-fork PoS chains, CKB can implement ETH in layer2。
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@fishkiller
创建合约时使用的是create而非create2，create创建出来的地址只和创建者地址以及nonce有关，导致任何人都可以抢先用工厂合约的nonce创建出那个地址。
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@rickblock
其实 AVM 也可采用和CKB双向绑定的方案，CKB用的是最抽象的UTXO模型，支持图灵完备脚本，基于RISC-V虚拟机，可用Rust，C，Lua和JS编写脚本，RISC-V上还可运行其他虚拟机（如LuaVM，JsVM），运行AVM应该也没问题，具备账户抽象，可兼容比特以及以太坊地址的，保持体验无缝。CKB是公链，任何人都可对接。
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@mindaoyang
@janhxie
PoW does not need to be the most universal design, but it will serve as a foundation to support the security of a world. On top of this, more specific mechanisms can be established to absorb the security of the foundation.
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@liquan_eth
@cryptodavidw
Through the content of this paper, I have rewritten a condensed version in Chinese in 2020.
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10. 我并不觉得Rollup即为区块链演化的终局。
Rollup，侧链，通道网络，跨链，结算/执行/DA的各种模块化网络，在某些时候都是可用的技术选型。
但不应以推举某一路线为由，而置技术逻辑于不顾，全然选择性描述。
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@rickblock
其他的PoW+UTXO链，如Doge，BCH，其抽象能力与BTC差不多，进行同构映射也无法支持图灵完备的AVM。
当然，还有一种选择是自建图灵完备的UTXO公链，但是PoW的冷启动问题很大。
相比之下，选择一个已有的公开开放的PoW+UTXO公链是可以可选项。
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Cosmos生态的PoS链只有几十个Validators，故维护验证者状态不算困难，但ETH-PoS有数以万计的“Validators”，在轻节点维护并追踪全量验证者集则过于繁重。
PoW的验证只关涉区块头的哈希串联，加上Flyclient之类的基于采样的方案，只需十���KB即可，
@NervosNetwork
@ZcashFoundation
实现了Flyclient.
我之前就说过，PoS 共识的验证会比 PoW 的共识验证更麻烦，因为它是 “带状态的验证”，你需要获得各 staker 的押金数量才知道其签名的权重。
这个问题最直接的影响就是轻节点（light clients）的构建。因为在 PoW 中，轻客户端可以直接验证工作量证明，这非常轻，而且可靠性很强；
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@ddadybayo
@notcoolyet_
Certainly, you can start by reading this detailed thread , as well as the RFC , and the paper published at NDSS .
If I were to summarize, I think there are three points:
1. Splitting the original NC's
In this thread, we'll explore NC-Max—the innovative consensus protocol powering Nervos' Layer 1 blockchain, Common Knowledge Base (CKB)—its improvements over the classic Nakamoto Consensus, and how it addresses key challenges. 🚀
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@trtwarrior
【Ep2-1 Proof-of-Work is Still Going Strong 张韧 | 区块链全景系列讲座-哔哩哔哩】
【Ep 3-2B DAG-Based PoW Consensus 张韧｜区块链全景系列讲座-哔哩哔哩】
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UTXO-based isomorphic binding scheme/RGB++ explanation
The RGB++ protocol has preliminarily gone live, with the first asset $SEAL reaching a market cap of $50-60 million, but currently it is only trading on BTC and does not seem too different from other BTC assets.
However, if
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社区大户自救计划....
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1. 只适合状态不会膨胀的应用，不落实状态租赁之类的机制，用侧链就不会遇到状态爆炸问题了？更何况，Rollup并没有使用L1的状态，只是使用了L1的DA，其恰恰是降低了L1的状态占用，其错一。
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5. Sequencer非常中心化，我觉得这应该加一个限定词，“当前”，Sequencer不可以设计得非常去中心化吗？并且，就侧链使用的那种几十个节点的BFT，就很去中心化了？Rollup不能对接BFT的PoS？
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I'm claiming my
#WorldCup2022
badge on
@MetopiaMetopian
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#Metopia
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可以用智能钱包加入遗产分配的逻辑。
举个例子∶在到达xxx时间戳后，某几个xxx邮箱地址的所有者中的三方，可以在一定时间的时间锁后，获得该账户的资产。
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EigenLayer Alignment
Together with Justin Drake, I have recently decided to become an advisor to Eigenlayer, on the same conditions -- I am taking this position personally, not representing the Ethereum Foundation, and with a focus on risks and decentralization. I am therefore fully expected to take
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9. 关于zkBridge，请问zkBridge在哪一点上突破了 双向轻节点，中继，哈希时间锁 三类跨链方案的安全假设？我理解使用简洁证明，就是可以让原本链上验证不起或者非常昂贵的计算可以被压缩，但是它始终要么是双向轻节点，要么是中继，没有压缩证明的时候，一样可以设计出相同安全模型的跨链方案。
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@mindaoyang
@janhxie
PoW is just a design principle of a mechanism. Bitcoin uses PoW to realize electronic cash, but the consensus algorithm based on PoW is still evolving, rather than staying in the design proposed by Satoshi Nakamoto forever.
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@0xbaitalk
@crypcipher
Uniswap also restricts users from trading certain tokens in certain countries, but this is only a front-end restriction and has nothing to do with the exchange contract itself.
Anyone can deploy their own front-end to bypass Uniswap's own front-end restrictions, and the same is
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@rodarmor
I briefly reviewed the proposal and feel there are some issues. In the lightpool, makers need to run nodes and then collect orders broadcast by takers to execute transactions.
In the current BTC MEV scenario, makers neither lose nor gain extra, while takers who get front-run
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8. 作者提出了类似IBC模型的跨链网络，勉强可以认为是一个方案，但是它的安全模型，以及各方面的假设与Rollup完全不同，从什么角度它能取代Rollup？侧链本来就是与Rollup不同的方案，开发者应根据自身需求做技术选型。
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