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Meanwhile ACTUAL queer actors get blacklisted and can't find work in Hollywood, but a straight man oscar-baiting a gay role can get away with losing the studio a seven figure sum and will get no backlash whatsoever...
Joaquin Phoenix has dropped out of a gay romance movie five days before filming was set to begin, with a source telling Variety that he got “cold feet.”
Sources tell Variety that his role cannot be recast, the crew is now out of work, and losses could exceed seven figures.
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@blkcomictwit
Scott's infidelity is glamorized and idealized by fans everywhere and often discussed in a positive manner, but any of Jean's actions of similar nature (and not at all to the extent of his re: months long affairs) are regarded as the original sin...
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@cyclopsiryn
I always thought Jean "made" Scott fall for Emma in Here Comes Tommorow, after her death was sort of a "wake up call" for his affair. Before Jean changed reality he said he didn't want to continue the affair, bc he loved Jean and Emma was an escape, but then Jean intervened
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We really don't get enough panels of characters just being there for each other and helping each other out in more ways than just punching bad guys. I'm so glad to see that Phoenix is taking a moment to focus and expand on the friendship between Jean and Carol!
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Phoenix is COMING!
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NASA has lost contact with Voyager 2, the spacecraft that’s been exploring the universe for 46 years, after accidentally sending it the wrong command.
The craft was 12 billion miles away from Earth but NASA hopes they can resume communication when it is due to reset in October.
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Jott is such a good couple when you don't have a 28yo from Twitter whispering in your ear that they've outgrown each other and hold each other back in an effort to prop up their own favorite ship which has been dead and buried for 13 years.
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Jean Grey has landed on the pink carpet at the
#Barbie
premiere! We hear rumors that she's discussing a movie adaptation of her brand new solo with director Greta Gerwig. 👀
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#BarbieTheMovie
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Phoenix
#3
once more solidifies my faith in Stephanie Phillips's creative vision, as it begins to tackle and unravel one of the central themes of the series - divinity and faith. Phoenix's humanity is on display for the readers, but in-universe she's perceived as God.
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Phoenix
#4
hits the brakes and offers us a beautiful moment of reflection. In the first half of the issue, we are given another peek into Jean Grey's internal struggles. Carol makes a guest appearance, which feels both earned and moves the story forward
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Jean Grey (2023) really was a danger room training session for Jean to perfect her reality bending powers before she facing off Enigma in a reality bending battle. The attention to detail is CRAZY
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These team rosters look like they were picking names out of a hat, but the hat was X-men '97 themed. We are really getting rid of Krakoa for this?
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The new x-office is so desperate to sell anything. 20 books in the span of 6 months - who do you think will be buying all that? And then blame it on the female characters leading half of your books because you just had to put out a new W&D book and oversaturate the market.
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@sapphyreblayze
This not even being the first time....Emma really told Kamala she gets second place in the oppression Olympics lmaoo
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LET'S GOOOOO
Louise Simonson ❌
@thebernardchang
From the ashes of Jean’s past comes the only hope for the X-Men’s salvation!
Find out more about
#FallOfX
’s ‘Jean Grey’ series here:
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Despite the anti-Palestine propaganda by western media outlets and politicians, don't ever forget about the queer Palestinians, who deserve to live and be free. Remember and share their stories and keep them in your thoughts. They deserved so so much better.
#FreePalestine
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Male writers with large following and multiple succesful projects behind their back (Jonathan Hickman, Tom King etc.) can easily get away with misogynistic depictions of female characters and their degradation in an attempt to uplift their personal favorite male characters.
what comic book media opinion would get you like this
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This looks traced....
Like they're fucking sisters fr, and they practice magic together in their spare time btw!!
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This is not the first, not even the second time that this podcast has mocked actual, important, real-life conversations and issues in an attempt to make an unfunny joke. They were called out many times before, yet this behavior continues, confirming that it's a pattern
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@Star_Rasputin
They were sexualizing her in the most disgusting possible manner in every issue during Dawn of X but we're supposed to believe the Krakoan x-office had any sort of progressive ideals as if majority of the writers weren't weird white men lol
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@CertifiedFool_
Phoenix was almost exclusively under Jason Aaron's pen for nearly 10 years, and 8 of those years were spent in Thor comicbooks, but suddenly now the shared universe is an issue, lmao.
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Jean Grey's bag might as well be the community food bank at this point.
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@616GreerGrant
Marvel late again, and while DC announced new books for their queer characters, marvel announced...their last year's pride issue being released in a collected edition 🥴
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Stephanie Phillips is an incredibly talented writer with a clear vision for the story she wants to tell and if the rumors are true, I'm very excited for the upcoming glow-up Phoenix is going to get. A class act like Phillips deserves all the praise she receives.
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It's interesting how even in this pose, where she's holding a fallen Magneto, which is traditionally reserved for male characters, the artist drew Rogue from an angle which allows them to sexualize her even more than if she was the one being held. This is insane.
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@ThorLawyer
What about the time Jason Aaron stole the Phoenix from the x-office for 10 years? Thor is always choking on the X-men's leftover crumbs...
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@EmmaTalksComics
Your obsession with infidelity speaks of larger issues underneath the surface, are you a child of divorce?
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@HomoSuperiorX
The show has given more spotlight to the female characters actually, as it's a well-known fact that the x-men franchise is only as succesful as it is because of the x-women. 🙂
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Jean Grey
#1
(Til Dawn Edition) is now available to order at your local comic book shop! Including an exclusive brand new alternative cover and a foreword by Chris Claremont himself! Make sure to ask for Jean Grey
#1
2nd printing at your local stores!
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@y2kmarcus_
Dark Phoenix is a trauma response, specifically a response to abuse and *implied* gender based violence. It's largely been misunderstood as a story about a woman losing her agency when in power, but I'd argue that it's more akin to a story about female rage and justice served
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Her costume turning into fire when she goes full Phoenix mode is so fun and interesting, we love a pretty power signature!
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No fandom war elicits this type of response. Vicious, pointed bodyshaming and personal insults over fictional characters and Twitter discourse? Since when does
#xtwitter
close its eyes to the vitriol spewed within the x-fandom? Did we just not witness this directed at a writer?
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Posting pages out of context and talking about lifeless comic books is classic xtwitter. I'm going to need you to explain to me what sort of wonder, scope, atmosphere, voice, story and soul you would like to see (or even write) since these 2 issues haven't given you it?Let's talk
The irony of Phoenix being a lifeless comic book. You have no sense of wonder, of scope, of atmosphere. No immersion. Jean has no voice, no story, no soul. And this isn't accurate with anything written between Scott and Corsair for the past 10+years. It's tragic
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#XMen
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Had a lot of fun with Phoenix
#2
! The issue slows down the pace and gives us the audience and Phoenix herself a breather. The art has improved, and the storyline is very intriguing. Phillips has a vision for the book, which can't be contained in only 2 issues. 9/10.
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Ever since its announcement, it was communicated very clearly that the book will explore Phoenix's role in the cosmic hierarchy and how she is perceived by the wider Marvel cosmos. It never set out to be an in-depth exploration of Jean Grey's persona from her own POV.
Phoenix
#3
isn’t bad, but it’s still not what I want it to be. Jean is present, but it feels like someone else’s story. It lacks Jean’s point of view. Three issues in, and this problem still persists. I hope it gets better in the upcoming issues.
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@EmmaTalksComics
You really don't read the comics you supposedly "talk" of, because this conclusion to Hope's story has not only been always hinted at by Gillen ever since Utopia 15 years ago, but also make a full circle storyline with an actual conclusion, which she never got in AvX
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Just a few from many favorites. I tried to include panels from all the major events that shaped the Krakoan era (bar the first gala) - from X of Swords to King in Black, through Judgment Day and the final Hellfire Gala, Jean Grey has been front and center of the Krakoa
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@newmedicine7
They are acting like it's some retcon forced by editors when it was always supposed to be Jean/or connected to Jean. But Gillen was never able to complete his story because of AvX. He did now
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@EmmaTalksComics
Hope was always intended to either be Jean herself reborn or part of/related to Jean herself. This is nothing new, the storyline comes full circle from the seeds that Gillen himself planted in Utopia. This has always been his story, a decade in the making.
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NASA captures the clearest image ever of the Phoenix's return. She's coming home!
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NASA’s James Webb Telescope captures the clearest image ever of the Whirlpool Galaxy.
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@bornposting
Disney forever changing the course of Hollywood history all because they were too scared of a bunch of loud youtubers will never not make me mad. Almost everything that sucks about modern blockbuster and franchise projects can find its roots in the aftermath of TLJ's "reception".
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This book really was misunderstood by many, called unnecessary and completely divorced from the main plot, only for it to end up being more important than half of the other minis from Fall of X 😭 JEAN GREY (2023) BY LOUISE SIMONSON AND BERNARD CHANG YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS!
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Once again Jean Grey is the one to deliver all of mutantkind, just like she did during Utopia! The Phoenix is coming, and she will save the universe once more.
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@ThorLawyer
Jason Aaron wrote a 10 years long run on Thor that's probably the most well-known and read Thor story post the 2000s, so I'd say it's also Thor's business. He also included a symbiote as the final power-up for Malekith instead of creating shit from scratch to prop Thor up :((
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All of the other ones being somewhat creative and this one just being lazy insults lol. If you don't have anything worthwhile to say, don't say anything at all.
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Jean was dead for over 20 years of publication, and she's still the second most published female character in the X-men franchise. But we are supposed to believe that the franchise needs to move on from her? 😭😭😭
Top Ten Female Marvel characters by number of appearances:
1. Storm (debut 1975): 10327 appearances
2. Jean Grey (debut 1963): 8144 appearances
3. Rogue (debut 1981): 6707 appearances
4. Kitty Pryde (debut 1980): 6560 appearances
5. Emma Frost (debut 1980): 6253 appearances
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Cyclops stans on the tl screaming "He's free!" Free from what? He's literally been pushed in every single X-men media except like 3 movies. What exactly has Cyclops suffered? He's certainly not been absent from comicbooks, nor has he been sidelined. So again, what is he free of?
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@spectorsummers
Heyy, here are all the times Jean kissed Logan BEFORE 2001 (I am using this metric as the affair between Scott and Emma began with 2001's New X-men). In x-factor Logan *forced himself* on Jean and she pushed him away. I'm also including the times Scott made out with Betsy in 90s.
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@RobertSecundus
Hickman left on his own. The Krakoa story was going to wrap up within just 3 years, according to his original plan. Brevoort also confirmed that JDW was working on a post-Krakoa relaunch titled The New X-men before Brevoort was put in charge. Stop spreading lies
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@BeauDemayo
I noticed that Jean's character model has sort of a "tortured" face, indicating all of the hardships she has gone through and all of the trauma. Was this the intention when designing the current character model? Because it's such a well-thought out detail!
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@spectorsummers
Jean is constantly blamed for it, called a sl*t, wh*re and a plethora of other slurs, hell even in the replies of this very post.Were you not here for the 5th episode of X-men '97? Was Jean not slutshamed across platforms, while Scott's affair was justified as a "grieving father?
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How are you trying to make a character more popular and in-demand, and your FIRST thought is to be mean to Jean Grey and her fans? Lmfao.
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The brand new cosmic Phoenix form! I wonder if this has anything to do with Jean's meeting with Eternity 🤔
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THIS IS INSANE OH MY GODDDD
JUST ANNOUNCED AT
#MARVELNYCC
: In February 2025, Jean Grey will fight for the fate of the Phoenix Force in 'Phoenix'
#8
!
🖋️ Writer:
@Steph_Smash
✏️ Art:
@MarcoRenna89
🎨 Cover: Yasmine Putri
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@ThorLawyer
That's very much not the truth, because in War of the Realms - a Thor book written by Jason Aaron, Malekith bonds with the symbiote Venom and uses it to boost himself, propping Thor's story with higher stakes.
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This podcast has a history of called out questionable attitudes towards female characters, but I still can't fathom keeping this post up for so long after many people justifiably criticized you. The worst part is that their attitudes are very widespread in the x-men fandom.
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@y2kmarcus_
It's very sad actually how little male writers have cared to explore Jean's thoughts and opinions on this after she came back. It's clearly very disgusting, weird and fetish-y which is in line with Morrison's work, but I think it's disturbing how many fans find it quirky
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That one obsessive weirdo's one-sided beef with Phoenix NEEDS to be studied because how did you just get humbled and your first instinct is to talk shit about Phoenix, lmfao. It's been months, move on and leave us alone.
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This specific part of the affair plot line has always been incredibly disturbing and I think it should have never gotten past editorial, let alone be romanticized in later books and turned into a staple of the scottemma relationship.
looking back on this cheating arc now that i’ve read dark phoenix for the time time is actually sick as fuck because in MY opinion not only is emma wearing the DARK phoenix outfit in which she had a hand on causing but also had her red hair trying to imitate all of her and scott
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@StarrChildOmega
@spectorsummers
Because if we address how he treated Madelyne, EVEN in X-men '97, the whole conversation shifts. Which is why this fact is often emitted from these conversations by fans and writers, who have tried to clean this character's image at the cost of female characters' agency
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@EmmaTalksComics
It's kinda insane how you are so scared to admit that you just don't like the character Jean Grey and make all sorts of snarky shady comments in relation to her, but when somebody responds its "I don't know why Jean stans think I dislike her!" Same thing happened with Storm too
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@NebsGoodTakes
I hope you guys realize that Jean Grey is a fictional character and if you're going to get mad at anyone about this you should be getting mad at Bendis who wrote it lmfao
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@blkcomictwit
All the while they are giggling and laughing at tweets calling her a sl*t, h*e, b*tch or any other degradory slur they can think of. But it's not at all misogyny!
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Quoting this again, but I remember last year when the Ms. Marvel solo mini was coming out, and there was a scene where Emma Frost lectured Kamala on how she didn't know what *real* oppression was until she became a mutant and barely anybody called it out for being weird.
white blonde girl mutants getting to curse at and call visibly brown muslim men the made up insult for non-mutants talking about SACRED LAND literally not one single encouraging thing on this page
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Don't play with her like ever
TODAY'S QUESTION IS:
Who do you think is the sexiest-ever member of the X-Men cast?
Comics, movies, tv, animation, whatever you choose is fine, and no judgment.
Just curious who pops the most pants.
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