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Utena your power is unstoppable
The fact that Fluttershy is canonically a manga artist 😭
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This was so unbelievably dark I still cant believe the diamonds were turned into “weird aunts” after this evil
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Hypersexuality is when you’re so obsessed with sex it causes you harm and pain…it doesn’t mean “super horny and slutty cause it’s quirky teehee” i hate some of these attitudes.
im a victim of sa and hypersexual too btw.... and this shit made me uncomfortable as fuck🙃 teehee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[CW - SA, Spoilers]
Thinking about those “but it wasn’t nonconsensual” tweets again…the dreadful silence, Utenas eyes darting around, her being distressed, frantic and saying “I have to get home” “what can I do? This is no good” flinching in pain. The road saying “stop! Stop!”
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Handy writing trick: retcon your abuser character to be very quirky, insecure, wimpy pathetic and
#relatable
to get ppl to forget how powerful and manipulative he actually has been, on screen, and have the disadvantaged person be hypersexual so that his abuse “doesn’t matter”
The deviant manipulative mastermind and his traumatized victim
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“I will do anything” (implied: sex)
How…how do the people see this and think stolas is the victim or a doormat to Blitzø, and why have they been bullying fans for calling stolas manipulative and an abuser.
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I’m soo so sick of this toxic, vile, highschool bully behaviour.
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I think if you have to write a long thread explaining all the technical reasons why a character isn’t a predator ..he probably just is one
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Wouldn’t it be cool if the story was about him running an assassin business?
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Actually Blitzø is a good example of a hypersexual character. Like this scene where he uses sex and substances to escape his pain but is repulsed by the person at the same time
Hypersexuality is when you’re so obsessed with sex it causes you harm and pain…it doesn’t mean “super horny and slutty cause it’s quirky teehee” i hate some of these attitudes.
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See if they just did this at Ozzies instead of in front of minors none of that drama would’ve happened
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I need everyone to watch these two scenes of
#HelluvaBoss
with
#Blitzo
and
#Stolas
, then the one with
#Fizzarolli
and
#Mammon
for me, back to back. The dialogue, expressions, hand movements, the tone. Notice anything?
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How do people see this scene and still say Katara didn’t like him back lol
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Wdym “10 episodes in and no yuri”?
Those screenshots are from episode 3
In that same ep Utena rejects being a normal boys bride, hating the feminine dress the whole time, and chose to dance with Anthy.
Nobody lied to u 🌹
I hate y’all who lied to me and told me utena was yuri
I’m literally 10 episodes in and this shit is just straight and queerbaiting???? And their fans were insulting sulemio and saying shit about my girls 💀💀💀💀💀
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???? No you don’t???
Blitzø is completely valid here and the way Stolas brushes him off and Blitzø APOLOGIZES for being right when I know they ain’t gonna acknowledge him being right? Man.
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It’s an adult man and a teen girl worried about packing her school lunch for the morning. And it’s supposed to symbolise the breaking of Utenas spirit. She clearly feels guilty, confused, and afraid and the encounter breaks her will to fight. It is not consensual.
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@BlackTownUsa1
That’s like the *key* part. When the adrenaline wears off and you realise it wasn’t a genuine desire but an unhealthy choice. Hypersexuality is impulsive and instinct driven, it almost feels like panic when the urge hits.
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Stealing Verosikas long awaited spotlight right after he just had an episode all about himself? 🙁 nah.
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I remember this exchange between zuko and iroh.
Where Iroh, who is all about choosing peace, kindness, balance, and forgiveness, said “no, she’s crazy and too far gone”
atla fans crying bc azula's abuse is getting blatantly acknowledged on-screen and she's being shown in a sympathetic light, when they been saying for years up and down that she wasn't abused and doesn't deserve any sympathy
#avatarthelastairbender
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Writing Stella as abusive is not misogynistic but *this* scene, is.
Mansplains the situation, removes her agency as calculated villain to give it to a man. Worst though? Saying she’s stupid and all she’s good for is popping out a baby and looking attractive. That’s misogyny.
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People in the comments like
“who cares about the black communities smaller, tokenised, misunderstood, religious community?! about what CHRISTIANITY, the most overpowering, suffocating, colonising religion in the west, has to put up with?🥺”
This is you:
Everyone involved in this is going straight to super hell.
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I only just saw this screenshot now. He’s mad at blitz for not being happy around him? What in the r/niceguys…
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@illusionOfArtOG
Fucking hell don’t lump me in with Orchard I feel like the diamonds crimes and punishment were off balance, while she basically called sugar a fucking Nazi
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Striker: The classist economy should be improved somewhat. I don’t like the upper class.
Stolas: And yet you, a lower class person have a job in which you do labour for the upper class. Because they are born rich but you have to earn money. Curious! I am very intelligent.
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[CW - SA Spoilers]
Scene Sai created drama over, Anthy calls Akio, distracting herself with a star map. Akio compares himself to the morning star, so when he says the stars are beautiful and she should see them he’s referring to himself, she didn’t want to see the real him—
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“Why won’t you Look My Way”? Because, even after all this time, he’s only ever had eyes for someone else…
#Blitzfizz
#HelluvaBoss
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@rxdxmxncy_angxl
She intentionally made “new” Rapunzel take the role of the egocentric vain Mother Gothel with both the pose and the positioning in front, Gothel is already based on racial stereotypes. The piece may have been inspired by Ursula disguising herself as Vanessa and ‘stealing’ (1/2)
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@ujivoice
Her age is bad enough but the question she asked makes it even worse 😓 in a few years she’ll be so embarrassed that this happened and that parents didn’t prevent it
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[CW for spoilers suicide rape abuse]
Maybe you missed the scene where Anthy tried to jump from a building while apologising over and over to utena. The entire time being assaulted by Akio every single week.
Crazy idea but you should blame the rapist not his sister who he raped.
@pinknpurple360
Wait til you get to the part where Anthy literally delivers Utena's virginity to her brother. Such yuri.
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This is plain bullying behaviour btw. Why is Vivienne Medrano joining in on fandom discourse with one fan of her show insulting and misconstruing the other? Pitting her fans against each other using her power as a creator is encouraging bullying. HB has a horrendous reputation.
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@PokoChokos
She is still alive, still loves animals, and is working on getting more reconstructive surgeries 💚
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@BeebZ_DonoZ
This is so cute cause it looks like he’s showing everyone his best friend Millie
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@weirdbeingg
Some men be like “horrifying!!!” And it’s just a woman eating anything other than a salad, without pretending to be all dainty.
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If they let him be an evil bastard like he was supposed to be originally, I would literally be his biggest simp
Look how terrifying??! The creepy hands with long fingers made of darkness, his towering stature, deranged smile, the glowing red eyes and coiffed hair??
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“Is this Fizz’s situationship, blitzø?”
“Yeah that’s me”
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@helluvareceipts
Lily has apparently hurt countless women yet at no point does she think “maybe I’m the problem” but instead “the world is against me”
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In Pattersons Slavery and Social Death, former slave Gracie Gibson recalls being ‘given’ as a birthday present to a masters daughter. The white child looked at her with “starry” eyes before taking her to her room to play.
So the answer to the question is yes.
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Stella when stolas mansplains their marriage as if she doesn’t already know everything he’s saying: 🧍♀️
This scene was so unserious to me (no offence if you liked it) they may as well be fighting over the last tube of mascara in the house
i know this scene is supposed to be super serious but… i cant when all you hear is the wooshing sound effects everytime stolas’ hand moves and THE FUCKING BLINK NOISE AT THE END
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All I have to add to the
#HelluvaBossLoona
discussion is
Moxxie tried to warn everyone from day one!! but did they listen to him? noo.
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Helluva fans tying themselves in knots trying to say writing a flat, aimless, one dimensional character is brilliant actually
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A few people have said this already but can you imagine this scene if it was a female character being dragged in the sex room against her will??
You can have a scene like Poison, where rape is depicted in a negative light. You can, arguably, have a scene like this, where a character is dragged off to be gang raped while screaming and clawing the ground, and it's played for comedy.
But you sure as hell can't have both.
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☹️ that’s really sad actually…Stella is only like 19 here. 2 years older than Via is now.
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“Anthy is the real mastermind who willingly betrayed Utena like she was a sacrificial lamb, she is equally as bad as Akio. Utena disappointed me by giving in to him, it wasn’t nonconsensual, that avoids accountability”
Wow! Its almost like you’re reciting Akios lines for him!
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Do you think there will ever come a day where one of these two grows up and stops encouraging fandom bullying?
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If the demonology lore was canonised, these two would be exes…imagine it, the drama, the sass.
Asmodeus and Lilith
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@TiaDoesStuffX3
He’s one of the best written psychological and sexual abusers I’ve ever seen. Second to Akio from Utena.
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Fizz he said DISTRACT them not “seduce every man in the room including me”
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@BEA_TR1SH
Yeah, I’m sorry :( for me the scene where Anthy takes her glasses off and walks towards Akio while the blinds shut around them messed me up. Content warnings are important but for me the shock was pretty memorable and made the story unforgettable
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People’s understanding of consent has been so damaged by this ship. Do we not even understand what coercion is? reminds me of this scene from Always Sunny
Can we NOT call consensual transactional sex rape please
Like what the fuck
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Does this piss anyone else off or am I going insane “it’s not right anymore” wow this whole operation was your idea…
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💔ouch. Did you catch that face?
He even hides it with a smile afterwards
#HelluvaBoss
#Blitzo
#Fizzarolli
#Asmodeus
#Blitzfizz
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@helluvareceipts
Thought I’d add these here, he says nobody was forced to. But the article clearly explains how they had no time to find a different source of income, and many are fresh out of college which makes it even harder. These factors need to be considered.
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@LePretzelPrince
She’s admitted a few times that she took over the major writing role from Brandon and reworked stolas completely. I just wonder what she threw away to replace it with shallow sad stolas song number twelve
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I jumped the gun because the video gets even better near the end (also justice striker nation)
#helluvaboss
#vivziepop
Ahh. I love 2024. What a good year already, the earth is healing. My crops are growing. My skin? It’s clearing.
#helluvaboss
#vivziepop
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@s3tok41b4
I think slavery racism and coercion is pretty much leaving the realm of complex romance
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Yeah I just realised the overlords didn’t raise a finger during the “war” it was all focused on the hotel
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Huh.
#HelluvaBossStolas
calling Octavia, his beloved daughter, a “thing”
Kinda mirrors Stella saying she’s glad one egg fell out of her so she can stop pretending.
The melodramatic ost sends me as well. Do they pay an imp orchestra offscreen for their pathetic harpy fighting?
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@helluvareceipts
Then. Why the hell did she say “the visual that cums with it”??? I’m gonna be sick
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That post is just recycling racist talking points.
The script should’ve called striker “extremist” at worst, *supremacist* is charged, given that he’s coded as Hispanic and poor, and resisting a white, royal, British coded man. This isn’t how a “supremacist” talks:
The fact this actually was said shows how white supremacy has won. This shit taught in schools by washing history to this "The only good revolution is a peaceful one" when not a single revolution has ever been peaceful, but they call the oppressed supremacists.
#helluvaboss
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@radioapplr
“I think so highly of you”
Also:
“My little imp”
“Little impish plaything”
“Follow me imp”
“Are you tiny creatures not being careful?”
“You’re so cute when you’re serious”
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Ok so if anyone curious in good faith and maybe confused as to why some people of all genders and sexualities are ACTUALLY uncomfortable by stolas, here’s a good vid to watch on the topic which explains things in a calm respectful manner.
bitches will be like “we want complex queer romances in media” and then write essays about how this ship is so toxic and evil helluva boss should be cancelled for the good of mankind. like I don’t think you do.
#stolitz
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Not that SA and hypersexual responses to compartmentalise it are actually intrinsically linked or something. Anyways y’all are nasty.
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“I didn’t want to see the real (him)”
“I never thought we’d end up doing what we did”
Both girls blame themselves and feel they betrayed the other which is heartbreaking to them.
To blame either young girl is to underestimate the power and calculated predatory behaviour of Akio.
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I NEED answers
Huge plot hole—unless stolas was lying about not being able to find her?
That could be a good twist (and the only possible explanation)
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When she asks “did you get tonight’s roses” he says “yes well done”
Every night Akio sexually abuses one of the students, and “gets his roses” Touga and Anthy herself “deliver” their own roses to him the most. Tonight it was Utena, Akio is saying “well done” to shift blame.
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@_lesvian
How was Vi selfish?! Everything that she did was always for someone else. These Vi haters are so creative..
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Anthy is more of an accomplice than a girls girl (see: Kanae) that’s true, but she’s also his main victim. And just like Sai is doing, Anthy is blamed by the world for all their problems, being stabbed by the swords of hatred, including Akios (ew)
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People think hating this one dimensional character counts as activism somehow. She had all nuance removed for a ship 🫢
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I really don’t want to debate about this anymore but I just want to respond to the tweet Viv made about the ‘both sides’ thing and explain why that point doesn’t work with this clip about unequal damage, from
@ArteiceTB
’s video.
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