@GShumwayiom @manxtelecom And can't contact them until 9am. wow!

@PeterMIOM @drwatsonsa That is exactly my point. Assuming that the 16% not on the Living Wage is in poverty is incorrect. I am not saying they shouldn't be paid the same.

@drwatsonsa @PeterMIOM I know how it calculates. You are just assuming that everyone is living and needing the living wage, they are not. The only kick (well despair) I'm getting is you not being able to comprehend this. I give up, it's so simple.

@drwatsonsa The calculation is what a couple, single person, etc need to earn. It in no way takes account for what the income or expenditure actually for people is, only what it should be. Your 16% does not take account of people's individual circumstances.

@drwatsonsa @PeterMIOM No, your hourly rate is how much you get paid per hour. It is not how many hours you work, or whether you pay rent or what your expenses are depending on your circumstance. I'm having to explain very basic principles on wage calculation and expenditure.

@drwatsonsa @PeterMIOM That is very condescending of you Devon, how disappointing. For the sake of clarity 'hourly rate' means how much someone should get paid per hour based on a 37.5 hour week. It isn't their income or expenses.

@drwatsonsa No, the report just calculates one LW hourly rate. Your assumption that anyone earning below that rate (the 16%), cannot afford to live is incorrect. You have no data on the circumstances that impact expenses.

@drwatsonsa @PeterMIOM They are costs required,not incomes. You said that high earners are discounted from the calculation?

@drwatsonsa That doesn't say that high earners discounted? These are figures of costs required and a demographic split

@drwatsonsa @PeterMIOM As per my other tweet show me in the report where a partner with high income would be discounted.

@drwatsonsa I've read the report, perhaps you could show me the part of the calculation where this discounting takes place on household income?

@drwatsonsa @PeterMIOM Should I assume that you think I have moral depravity? Not anywhere have I said anyone should be poor, just that your statement is factually incorrect.

@drwatsonsa I agree that a sixth of people earn less than the living wage, what I don't agree with is that ALL of them are in poverty or can't participate in life. Some yes, but not all. Perhaps if more accommodation was built by LA's, property prices and rents would decrease.

@drwatsonsa So a couple, both working full time, with one child. One person earns £60k and the other £20k (below the living wage). Is that family in poverty?

@drwatsonsa For those sixth of workers, how many have the income of another person within the household or are still living within the family and not paying market rents? Just because they earn less than the living wage does not mean they cannot afford the basic set of commodities.

@LawrieHooper @christhomasiom You don't usually accept survey findings with such low response rates?!

@johnwebsteriom To use the data as a lever for change it really needs to be more timely. UK publishes their data monthly and quarterly. Whilst we take 13 months, maybe their new AI tool can speed this up🤦

@ManxRant @johnwebsteriom