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I'm hearing the ACC will announce the additions of Stanford, Cal and SMU tomorrow. Fun times ahead!
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@benjstrauss
I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels like this brings into question whether the subscription price will be worth it going forward. The Athletic sells one thing (IMO) - journalism. For that, you need excellent journalists.
I'll wait to see who they keep before judging.
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What does it say about the Big XII that their highest-ranked team (preseason) has never played a down in the league, and finished 5th in their old conference last year?
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The ACC leads all P5 conferences in number of bowl-eligible teams with 11. It also has Notre Dame on it's bowl tie-ins (12). Also, 2 of 3 incoming teams (SMU, Cal) are bowling (14). Show some respect!
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If both FSU and Clemson exit the ACC, will the remaining schools try to get into the Big XII? Unlikely - the ACC would still be the better home.
IMO, the only conf. any ACC school would jump to are the B1G and the SEC. SMU might consider Big XII.
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I'm told the 4 holdouts are FSU, Clemson, VT and UNC.
Source: At least 4 current ACC members are against adding Cal, SMU and Stanford to the conference. The ACC's presidents met tonight to discuss particulars but no vote was taken. Not over yet but not much positive movement. Presidents will meet again Thursday and/or Friday.
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Even Big XII fans are starting to admit that the ACC is set to make more money than them for at least the next decade.
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It's so tiring trying to be patient and polite to FSU and Big XII fans who want to see the ACC destroyed, not because it benefits them, but from sheer spite.
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So far in Week 7, it's
Future ACC 2
Opponents 0
Great job Mustangs and Cardinal! Now, Let's see if Cal can complete the sweep...
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Just a reminder that, after Bama won the initial meeting, BC has dominated this series.
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Ah, what could've been if the 4 Corners schools hadn't panicked...
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@McFilmany
I don't agree with this strategy, but IF they decided to do this, they shouldn't just walk away, they should declare:
"We can't play because we don't have a healthy quarterback"
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It took me a couple of days to go through all of the math, but I think I finally have an accurate projection of ACC payouts from now until 2036...
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It's amazing how many Big XII fans are jumping into my twitter feed to tell everyone what a big mistake it is for the ACC to expand.
That's pretty much all I need to know right there.
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This may attract trolls, but today we ask: Is the B1G better at football than the ACC?
Hint: no.
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This morning on ACCFootballRx we welcome SMU and wish happy 10th anniversary to Louisville, happy 20th to Miami and Virginia Tech!
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The ACC is the only power conference with schools in the Top 4 states for producing NFL talent: Florida, Texas, California, and Georgia.
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ACC Commish Jim Phillips just on SportsCenter, asked if he would campaign for ACC teams to be in the CFP this year, said he would.
ESPN rep also pointed out that 1 P5 league is gone, 1 lost key pieces, but 3 grew - and ACC was 1 of the 3.
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Let's stir up the hornets this afternoon...
A fellow Hokie wrote a guest article "Why ESPN will move B12 schools to the ACC"
If you are a B12 fan, we look forward to having your school in the ACC someday!
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Attention SMU fans: here's your chance to catch up on 70 years of ACC history in a few minutes...
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Today we break ACC + Big XII schools into TV value tiers. It's easy to see why Clemson and FSU are the top tier, but even without them the ACC is slightly more valuable than the Big XII...
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@BigGameBoomer
False. Tennessee should be
#1
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...unless you're putting them in their own category - I could respect that.
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@ADavidHaleJoint
Not just Norvell. I think ESPN would be surprised what a large percentage of CFB fans would recognize FSU as champ in that scenario.
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SMU already playing the Seniority Card
As a distinguished, long time member of the ACC I’d like to officially welcome Cal and Stanford to the conference. It’s time to
#ACComplishGreatness
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"According to sources, there is an internal belief in the Big 12 that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are likely to join the conference within the next year or so."
FIFY
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It will be interesting to see how SMU Mustangs MBB does in the ACC. They were really good under Larry Brown and Tim Jankovich, but very bad last year under Rob Lanier (this year is pretty good: 19-7, 4th in the AAC). Their ceiling seems pretty high.
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@DNeckel19
Big XII is gaming the system. If the NCAA isn't going to fix the NET rankings, then the ACC needs to follow suit.
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Hale says ESPN plans to extend the ACC, they just want a bigger say in any future expansion (and maybe some "ACC After Dark", etc.)
From my reporting on this with numerous league & school admins, I haven’t talked to anyone who expects espn to decline the option and the sticking points are not about FSU/Clemson but rather more prosaic issues like broadcast windows and assurances on possible future expansion
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Congratulations to Louisville, SMU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, NC State, Florida State, Syracuse, California, and North Carolina!
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Some say if the ACC expands again the candidates are Oregon St, Wash. St, Tulane, USF, UConn - but how risky is each?
IMO, USF is safe to replace FSU.
Oregon St. is fairly safe.
Tulane, UConn are risky.
Wash. State is... well, nobody in ACC country even knows how to get there!
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@MattNorlander
Private equity is not a donation, it's a loan. These guys expect to get repaid - with interest. Oh, and they typically want a say in how you run things - think "Shark Tank".
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When the ACC officially admits SMU and Stanford this Summer, they'll also be adding 2 more Heisman Trophy winners: SMU's Doak Walker (1948) and Stanford's Jim Plunkett (1970). That makes 9 schools (out of 18) with at least one Heisman winner.
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People said SMU wouldn't be able to recruit Texas against the big boys as a member of the ACC. So far, so good...
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TBH, any Big XII school that hasn't had talks with the ACC should fire their President. It's due diligence. No one knows what tomorrow will bring, and the Big XII has already lost its top 5 teams - 6 if you count Colorado.
Craziest rumor alert. A reliable source from ACC country has told me that ACC has had membership talks with a few very high profile B12 schools in the past 6 months. Grain of salt alert-but wanted to share. This would shake CFB to its very core.
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Cal Bears and Stanford Cardinal fans, let me say "Welcome officially to the ACC"!
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@MarkPacker
I think it's a necessary move. Would've been better if the ACC had shown more foresight and picked up some ETZ and/or CTZ teams, but they didn't. At least Cal and Stanford are P5 teams, and SMU plays good football.
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Besides USF, the only other G5 team that comes to mind as an immediate replacement for FSU would be Tulane, which I've covered recently here:
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Tax returns are in, and the ACC has jumped into 3rd place in average revenue, ecclipsing the Big XII by a half million per school.
See all P5 averages for 2023 and for 2022 in today's post.
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Paul Finebaum says outside of Clemson, ACC football is a clown show. Hey, Paul, the ACC is .500 vs. the SEC over the last 4 years, with a winning record head-to-head in bowls, and 3-1 in national championship games! I think Finebaum forgot his shoes! 🤡
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@Sidelines_SN
@SSN_BC
@SSN_Hokies
@SSN_Miami
@SSN_Tulane
@SSN_Temple
@SSNSouthernMiss
@SSN_Memphis
@SSN_WVU
@SSN_Gamecocks
@SSN_ECU
Had this SuperMetro actually happened, it would've been in position to poach from the ACC, IMO. I'm thinking Clemson, Georgia Tech, and maybe NC State?
Could've been the BOSS of College Football!
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Just a reminder...
With the additions of Cal, Stanford, and SMU, the ACC will be in 7 of the Top 10 TV markets:
The biggest one the ACC is not in? Philadelphia.
#TempleTUFF
#NovaNation
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There's been a lot of back-and-forth on X between Cal and Oregon St fans. Did the ACC pick the right teams to expand with? Given the four choices, I think so.
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@awaytoworthy
I'm convinced that NET was designed by folks who were jealous of ACC Basketball dominance!
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@BrentPrysHog
The Big XII added FOUR G5 schools and FOUR mid P5 progams - including the two WORST teams in the Pac-12 (Colorado and Arizona), yet they were praised for the moves.
Everyone knows the ACC must do something. Let's see how this turns out. Who knows, TX2VT might come back!
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SEC and Big XII fan boys are saying that the ACC is the weakest college football conference, but the facts tell a different story. Check out today's post: "Realigned FB Titles by Conference, 1973-2022"
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@nole_atl
So much hubris on display in this thread.
Look, nobody's saying the SEC doesn't have good football teams, but (a) they're not always the best, and (b) there are plenty of weak SEC teams, too.
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I love how Coach Lashlee calls the ACC "one of the top 3 conferences in America"...
Troll on, coach!
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Dog, SMU got a lotta good interior linemen!
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ACC "Look in" w/ESPN... what might it entail? spitballin:
a. Keeping FSU away from FOX
b. Monetizing ESPN's ONLY P4 PTZ teams
c. Monetizing "The Big Game"
d. In-state Sub fees for ACCN in CA + TX
e. When CW sublicense expires in 2027
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If there's any logic to Big XII expansion, Memphis is on their short list.
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The ACC needs to add 6 teams - 6 new states, including the two most populous each of the Mississippi River - regardless of what ESPN says.
All are P5 except SMU (former SWC team, so "in the club"). I'll explain why these 6 tomorrow on ACCFootballRx...
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Is there any way Clemson and FSU can make $85M while still in the ACC? Surprisingly, I think the answer is YES!
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Welcome Mustangs (The rest of the ACC better be ready!)
Highest PFF Passing Grades of Returning QBs
1. Preston Stone, SMU (91.0)
2. Carson Beck, Georgia (90.8)
3. Dillon Gabriel, Oklahoma➡️Oregon (90.6)
4. Shedeur Sanders, Colorado (89.2)
5. Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss (88.7)
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@nole_atl
Seeing as how there's NO WAY the Gators are a serious threat the win the natty, that MUST be what happened.
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SMU is not playing around.
🎉 200 days until ACC membership! Join the ACC Competitiveness Campaign with a gift of $20, $200, or $2,000. Your support ensures successful recruitment, retention, training, teaching, and championship competition in the ACC.
👉 Give today:
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August 15th... still think the ACC will receive a death stroke today, like so many have predicted?
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Former USC Trojans Head MBB, now coming to Dallas to coach the Mustangs. Congrats, SMU!
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OK, Cal fans, I need more info:
- What's tailgating like there?
- What's the most popular tailgate food?
Who has the best tailgating experience in college football? 👀
List via Stadium Talk.
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To all the Big XII fans who keep commenting:
- you came looking for ACC content, so who's in more demand here?
- this ain't magic; chanting "the ACC will die" won't make it come true.
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@MarcRyanOnAir
The Noles won Saturday without Travis (FSU was losing when he left), and they have Florida and Louisville before Selection Day. 3-0 without Travis should be enough.
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@
@_theponyexpress
Thank you for your recent follow. Looking forward to having SMU in the ACC next Fall!
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New rumor: Big XII is trying to destroy the ACC by luring 2 schools away?
Josh Pate is referencing the Big 12 going after Louisville and Miami. Yormark is pitching more money and a seat at the P3 table. Get your seat before the sword of sword of Damocles falls on the ACC.
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Earlier this week some (not all) Big XII fans claimed that Clemson would announce today that they are leaving the ACC to join the Big XII on July 1st, 2025.
Needless to say, there was no such announcement... and there never will be.
Oh, Clemson may leave the ACC, but...
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@petebvt
You mean the offense that failed to score 30 points in 9 of 12 games (and didn't break double digits in 2) is not coming back...?
(I will miss that offensive line, though)
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Are you ready for some football? It's coming soon! If you're an ACC fan, know that more than half (10 of 18) games will be in Prime Time in Weeks 0 and 1!
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@RedditCFB
Three SEC teams in the playoffs?
That ought to really bring in the national TV audience...
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Assumes 4 teams exit the ACC: FSU, Clemson, UNC and UVA. How would you fans of the remaining schools feel about something like this for the new ACC (assuming your school can't go to the Big Ten or SEC)?
@Tphottakes
I’ll raise you one better. Grab OSU/Wazzu, and then get Utah what they want with an academic conference. After Utah bolts it inclines AZ/ASU to come and maybe Kansas and Iowa St will want to join other AAU schools
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@SaturdayGameday
@UTBarstool
@BarstoolBC
@BarstoolUMN
@niu_barstool
@BarstoolTCU
@BarstoolUtes
@UCFStool
@BarstoolOKST
@OUBarstool
@BarstoolIrish
Scared to come to Chestnut Hill!
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@NtlChampsDotNet
If that were true, it would mean that Fox offered FSU money to break a contract. You know what that's called? (Hint: it's illegal). If that came out in discovery, whoo boy!
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@SMUFB
,
@Big_Pony_Energy
,
@rellahcsedaw
,
@NatesaVaidya
,
@RockinHB
,
@Pony_Excess
,
@TravCasey
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@Kristopheles
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@curtgreen
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@bbryanw1995
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@McflyFourth
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@SMU_fbfan
According to FB RPI, if SMU were in the ACC right now, they'd be the 9th best team.
Thoughts?
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For ACC fans: Who are these "Cal Bears", and do they know how to play football?
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@RandyR358
USF looks like they think they are auditioning to replace FSU in the ACC.
From what I'm seeing, they'd get the part!
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@Big12BurnerKU
Cal/Stanford has been on P12N in recent years, so you have no idea what their numbers have been, but KSU/KU only drew 869K on FS1 last year with both teams going 9-4!
Last time both games were rated was 2020. Cal/Stan drew 1.75M on Fox; KSU/KU drew 0.289M
We're done
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ACC hoops fans will be happy to know that the Bears DO sell out their arena - at least sometimes.
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One thing the ACC has going for it: this giant block of cream cheese!
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On the P4 pecking order, it was good to hear someone on SportsCenter - ESPN's premier show - presenting the ACC as one of the top three conferences.
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Who are the most-played opponents for the 3 new ACC schools? Which ACC teams have they played most, all-time?
Cal: Georgia Tech (7 games)
Stanford: BC/Duke/Pitt (tied, 4 each)
SMU: Georgia Tech (11)
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Remember when the Big-8 married the SouthWest Conference and didn't invite SMU (or TCU, or Houston)?
As of midnight, only 7 of the original 12 teams remain.
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OK, SMU fans, I know you're feeling football season already, but doggone it, y'all need to win a bowl game this year - it's been awhile!
Miami and NC State aren't far behind you, either.
This is the year!!!
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@AndyBitterVT
If he called it "the university of Virginia. tech." - how committed could he have been?
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Congrats to Louisville and Cal!
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Will ACC payouts dwindle if Clemson and FSU leave? Not likely - and I tell you why not in today's post:
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How about this...
Per my power ratings, as of now, 2023 is the BEST SMU team since 1982!
I will compile and publish this list for all teams after the National Championship Game. Just sharing some ones I find interesting as I prep for bowl season
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This ABC news reporter seems convinced.
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@BigGameBoomer
Back in the day, GT was really, really dominant.
Like Alabama dominant.
Back in the day.
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What possible reason could Utah have for wanting to be in the ACC? I give you 5 reasons in this morning's feature post:
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9 ACC Schools (counting ND):
Boston College
California
Louisville
N Carolina
NC State
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh
Stanford
Syracuse
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Crazy conspiracy theories:
The earth is flat
COVID vaccine is for mind control
Lizard people secretly rule us
ESPN wants the ACC to implode
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For a middle-of-the-road FBS program that's never accomplished much of anything, the South Carolina Gamecocks sure talk a lot of smack!
(Just an observation)
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