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Out of the 25 apps I’ve built in the last year, 10 make $100 or more a month, 3 make $1000 or more a month, 2 make $5000 or more a month. 1 out of 25 has made over $50,000 in 1 month. I have a lot of work to do in analyzing what works and what doesn’t work.
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I have 26 apps on the App Store, 20 of them are subscription based, all 20 have made money. Once you know what you are doing, things are smooth.
Most subscription mobile apps don’t make money, new report shows
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I like being here because indie developers inspire me. I learn lots of things from true indies who don’t just make posts for clickbait engagement. Some are making $0 to $100, some $1,000, $3000, $10,000, $50,000 and even $500,000 a month. I learn from all of them. It’s great :)
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Come up with app ideas. Break them down to the most simple version. Give little to nothing away for free. Some apps, you give them a taste then the paywall or a free trial. Other apps just a hard paywall. Do ASO, Release it, Monitor, Build Next, Repeat. Build 20 apps like that.
@urtubiaswift
@loverofapps
1 app a week? How? I can't even make 1 app per month. Any tips u can share?
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I don’t want iOS apps to be associated with dropshipping. That was one of the worse things to ever happen to the online world. Selling cheap terrible products to the masses just to make a quick buck. Being an indie iOS dev is about making quality apps for users. Not hustle scams.
iOS apps in 2024 = Dropshipping in 2016
For dropshipping, all you needed was
1. winning product
2. good sales page and good fb ads
For apps, you still need
1. winning product
2. good organic tiktok and reels
If you come across a winning product idea, from then on you just
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This is how a solo indie dev goes to sleep at night. Amazing that the numbers matched up again in the same day. Btw this is all Organic App Store Search via ASO. Indie iOS devs should invest in
@TryAstroApp
&
@RevenueCat
to simplify payments.
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A new customer is really enjoying my most profitable iPhone app. Because of users who find value with the apps I create, I am able to live a very relaxed life. Building new apps when I want, taking care of my health and not ever having to worry about money. Glad to be an indie!
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Making apps is an odd thing. If you allow it, people will want to use your apps 100% free forever, never paying you a dime. If you allow it, they will let you starve. I am about to remove 90% of the free content from one of my newer apps. :)
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Never forget that
@Apple
thought it was more important to give influencers like MKBHD access to the Vision Pro early instead of actual indie developers. In the future, Apple should prioritize actual indie developers so that more quality apps can be created.
And now - I'm so pumped to be launching this app! People have asked where I get wallpapers FOREVER, so this is the answer, now and forever: PANELS!
@panels_art
Available on iOS or Android
4K
992
18K
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Apple’s App Store Fee should only be 3%/6% not 15%/30%. If your apps make $100,000 in a year, you should not have to pay Apple $15,000. No business would tolerate that kind of fee, not even Apple.
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This is the first app in 2 years where I am taking my time to build it. It will be the base template for multiple apps moving forward. I am also putting my health first. No need to stress when you already make good money. I should still have 10 new apps built by December.
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I’m in love with renewals. My current average is 37 renewals a day. Since they aren’t cheap & weekly, I pull in about $350 a day on renewals alone. That’s $10,500 a month. I look forward to building more weekly subscription apps so I can get average daily renewals up to 100 :)
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I followed tutorials from the following people
@seanallen_dev
@FloWritesCode
@alfianlosari
@CodeWithChris
@logankoshenka
@twostraws
and I watch
@Aivars_Meijers
when I am relaxing in between coding sessions. Yup, I think that is everyone.
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New milestone reached for my latest subscription app. 100 Subscribers :) I did some ASO but this app does not get many downloads. Conversion is higher than my average conversion rate though. $9.99 Weekly Subscription.
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Building apps for
#VisionPro
is like going back to early iPhone days. The field is wide open, you can rank for any keyword you want, users are actually paying for simple paid apps & most people/devs have no idea of it’s potential. It’s like being a kid in a candy store lol!
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I made my first hit app in 2 days, my second hit app in 2 weeks & now my current app took about 2 weeks to build. Based on my research, I think it will do well. But it could totally make $0-$100 or it could make $10,000+ a month. If it falls flat, I move on to the next idea. ;)
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My new app is coming along nicely. I’m fine tuning the ui. It’s simple, sleek & useful. I should be finished with it by Monday. It’s fun to work on small app projects. :) No stress at all.
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It looks like I hit my increase monthly revenue by 10% goal for this month. ( 11.45% to be exact ) Next month I will release 1 big app, 2 updates to my most profitable apps and maybe 1-2 small apps to make sure I meet my 10% goal next month.
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If my monthly gross revenue increases 10% every month in 2024, by December I will be making $65,000 a month. From December 2023 to January 2024, it went up by 31.2% even though I spent all of January working on
#VisionPro
apps & I did not do 1 ASO update for my two main apps.
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Once any new app I release gets 100 downloads, if there are no conversions, I change one or more things in the app. Remove all free content or add some depending on how it started. Lower IAP price or whatever makes the most sense. Observe results then move on to the next project.
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Final total for yesterday was good. Considering that I haven’t released a new app or new features or done any new aso updates in a month. Love those renewals.
This is how a solo indie dev goes to sleep at night. Amazing that the numbers matched up again in the same day. Btw this is all Organic App Store Search via ASO. Indie iOS devs should invest in
@TryAstroApp
&
@RevenueCat
to simplify payments.
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I share things to motivate other indie developers. But it is obvious that there are copycats who get excited when revenue numbers are shared. Which is why I build in private. The copycats will never know what my apps are. Copycat Scammer Developers are the worst.
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After I almost lost my main Apple Developer Account, I decided to diversify. One of my profitable apps is on my main account, the other is on my backup account. If one is taken away for some random reason, I can still survive. I also created a 3rd super stealth dev account :)
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I know it may not sound like much but I have 3 weekly subscribers to one of my Vision Pro Apps. Normally on iPhone, it takes 100 downloads to get the first 1 or 2 conversions. This app has only had 34 downloads, an 8.8% conversion rate.
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I am working on app
#26
right this second getting a early jump on the 1 app per week thing :)
Out of the 25 apps I’ve built in the last year, 10 make $100 or more a month, 3 make $1000 or more a month, 2 make $5000 or more a month. 1 out of 25 has made over $50,000 in 1 month. I have a lot of work to do in analyzing what works and what doesn’t work.
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I was going to only build 10 apps for
#VisionPro
this year. I am now expanding to 20 apps. I have so many new app ideas. I will make sure to keep the scope minimal for each app that way I do not sacrifice my health for productivity. If users invest in a app, I add more to it.
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App submitted. Now I will flesh out my next 2-4 app ideas so I can release 1 app a week for the rest of the year.
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One more reason that I love weekly subscriptions is prevention against refund scams. Let’s say you have a yearly sub, at any point someone can refund it for any reason. But if you had a weekly subscription, Apple will only refund the last weekly charge. It’s so beautiful! 🥹
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My goal this year is to raise my monthly app revenue by 10% every month. This month I’ve reached that goal. Next week I will release a new iPhone app that should do well. If I can keep up this 10% per month momentum, December 2024 Revenue will equal $65,000+
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My latest app is almost done. I can’t wait to finish it then start on the next one. :)
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After I finish this current app idea, I am 100% going back to MVPs. It’s way more fun to build MVPs plus you get to try so many ideas in a short time.
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I will submit this iPhone app today. Instead of allowing myself to get bogged down with features, I am pushing all extra features, bells & whistles to v2.0 ie after users have paid me. If users don’t pay, no v2.0. Then I move on to the next app idea.
#FailQuick
#GetRichQuicker
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My business goal this year is to 2x to 3x monthly revenue that way I can accelerate my investments into stocks, savings & crypto. I would like to secure my financial future so I never have to worry about money ever again. :)
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For the last two months I have been focused on my Health & Hobbies. In May, I completed 1 ASO update and started 1 new app. Gross Revenue is down 7.8%, Releasing many new MVPs will reverse this trend so that is the plan. I do not regret putting my health first. :)
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Whenever I am working on new projects or ASO, it’s nice to see revenue growing. Btw, these users are hungry for a new content update. Soon I will add 60-80 new pieces of content, they are going to go wild when that update drops! So much to do so little time.
#IndieAppsForLife
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I’ve finally decided to go all in on VisionOS. I will do multiple tutorials until I feel comfortable with it then I will build as many apps as I can before the Vision Pro comes out as well as even more apps after it comes out.
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Imagine if
@Apple
would have allowed normal indie developers to purchase their
#VisionPros
at WWDC last year or soon after. We would have a ton of unique polished apps on the store. On the bright side, the store is wide open, users are starving for apps. The store needs charts.
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This is from the first app I released doing the 1 week challenge. No paid ads, just ASO with
@TryAstroApp
+ Cross Promotion in my existing apps.
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It’s really cool when you find an untapped niche on the App Store. Users are searching for a specific use case & no developer has really seen this opportunity. So every App Store Search results in 0-3 relevant results, mostly 0. This app will be a very interesting experiment. ;)
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20,000 installs on the free app experiment. Time to add
@RevenueCat
to see how many users are ready to convert :) Based on this app’s category, non AI, the weekly subscription will be lower. I’m thinking $2.99 a week. 2.5% conversion, $2.99 x 4 x 500 = $5980 - 15% = $5083 MRR
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I was working on an app update for my paid app that has around 150 subs then I saw my free app experiment’s
@Telemetry_Deck
console looking like this:
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I’m sure you do. I’ve been making apps for more than a decade. I remember a guy who wrote a book on how to make money with apps. He shared everything about his apps, other developers with way less morals than I, copycatted him out of existence. Which is why I
#buildinprivate
:)
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I guess it worked, 2 new weekly subscribers just came onboard :) I know the numbers are small now but it’s always exciting to see your changes result in a direct revenue bump especially in a new app.
The first thing I did this morning was to make some paywall adjustments to my new app. I added some free usage that I will only keep for launch. Then I added a 3rd review request after the user completes the main action. I have only one last adjustment to make before I move on :)
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I do not like copycats at all. That’s why I build in private 100%. I have 3 developer accounts.
I'm not feeling well...
Two of my products were copycatted. Almost literally.
Because of that, I slowed down what I share in public. Some times unconsciously, some times not.
Nonetheless, I'm feeling like I'm not being totally honest with you guys.
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It’s been a while. I thought I had lost my touch. But my latest app had it’s first $10.99 a week subscription conversion after only 16 downloads. I only just cross promoted the new app in 2 of my smaller apps. Soon I will do TikTok videos + cross promote in my bigger apps. 😎
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Let’s say Apple only sells 1 Million Units in 2024. That is a captive audience who just spent $3500+ to have the Vision Pro. They will pay for quality Vision OS apps. If an indie captures 0.5% of those users at $9.99 a week = 5000 x 9.99 x 4 = $199,800 MRR. Need I say more?
I honestly don't get the developers' noise around
#AppleVisionPro
It's too expensive to become widely used, don't you think? There's no reason to develop apps for an upper class only.
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My hats off to all the brave indies who jump into popular niches, survive and end up making good money. As for me, my next app is in a niche with 0 competitors and a few new search terms. I hope to have it finished by the end of the week. :)
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I’m working on a new app. It’s simple, beautiful and useful. I’m going back to what I know best, lots of value + a weekly subscription. :)
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This was in the afternoon after going to the chiro. I have this thing with numbers, I like patterns. I am sharing this because I like how the number of renewals and purchases were exactly the same.
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My first Vision OS app was submitted for approval yesterday evening.
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To all Indie iPhone developers building for Apple
#VisionPro
, challenge yourself to build 10 unique MVPs this year. Your future self will thank you. Your bank account will smile and all will be well in the world of indiedom. ;)
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My 2nd native Vision OS app is ready for it’s Paywall + App Store page stuff. After I wrap this up, I will start work on my 3rd app. This year is off to a productive start. I wonder how many
#VisionPro
apps I can finish in February. Minimum 3 for sure.
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I figured out why my free app obtained so many downloads out of nowhere. I logged into a Tik Tok account I created for one of my other apps. I had posted 1 video for the free app there. I remember it getting 750 views at the time. Now that 1 video has 22,900 views. :)
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I finished an app while I was in San Jose for WWDC. I showed it to a close family member yesterday. She said, “women will love this!” I thought that was an interesting to say. I will release it this week then start work on the next MVP.
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When learning VisionOS because of my app ideas, I find myself having to learn all these 3D artist things. 3D File Formats, Blender, Skyboxes, Textures, Lighting, Camera Placements etc. Never thought I would ever do things like this. It’s strange as well as interesting.
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One of the apps I created had insane api usage. Instead of rush to adjust the monetization method, I decided to raise the weekly subscription to an insane number to temporarily stop people from subscribing. Well someone just subscribed for more than $59.99 a week. Strange.
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At first, I was excited about developing for the Apple Watch. Then I found out Apple severely limited it, it was terrible.
#VisionPro
is way different, the power to create what you want is wide open. Apple is begging developers to build for it. It’s a rare opportunity for indies.
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I submitted my app of the week yesterday. I started it on Monday so it would not take over my weekend. My first conversion just came in from Norway at $12 a week, the app only has a total of 16 downloads, I’ve only done ASO with
@TryAstroApp
+ one TikTok Video ( 492 views )
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No WWDC ticket as per usual but I’ve decided to go to San Jose anyway. I had the best time hanging out with indies & some Apple employees. I can’t wait to go to the
@RevenueCat
party as well. Best event hands down last year.
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After gating most of my content + doing a massive ASO update. My second Vision Pro app is starting to see conversions trickle in again. 3 weekly subscriptions a day. If this stays stable, in one month thats like $3000 MRR for the following month. Of course there will be churn.
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When submitting an app for review, if you make the mistake of sending the iap through the IAP page approval process it can take a week+. The best way to submit iap is to attach it to your build. The only way to speed up the other process is to request a phone call from Apple.
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In my new app, there are 10 places where I ask for a review using 3 different app review methods. ;)
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Let’s say you have 100 weekly renewal subscriptions every day at $5.99 each. That is $599 gross profit every day. Then the App Store Algorithm changes, the # of new subs drops. For the foreseeable future you are still making $15,274 a month before churn kicks in. I love renewals!
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Sticking to the 1 app a week challenge for the rest of 2023. I am finishing up the paywall of my latest app using
@RevenueCat
, then I will add in ask review code, finish the promo video, make the screenshots. ASO was done earlier with
@TryAstroApp
Then I will submit for review :)
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My second
#VisionPro
app was approved today. Sunday, I showed it to my dad, today I showed it to my chiropactor. They all seemed quite amazed by it. That’s cool. We will see how the market reacts… Right now, I am tinkering with ideas for my 3rd app.
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Because of new AI advances, I am working on yet another new app. The AI opportunities are too juicy to miss out on. Besides that, I am now working on a Superhero TV Archive. 2 AI apps, 2 TV Archives. ;)
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I’ve decided that I will start using all ASO tools made by indies.
@TryAstroApp
by
@matteo_spada
@ShipmunkApp
by
@onmyway133
and
@ASOSuite
by
@nielsmouthaan
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I just put in 7 hours on a Sunday, my app with the super expensive IAP has just been submitted to the App Store for Review. App Review Hell might be my next destination. 🤑
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Current base of 200,000 users who just spent $3500-$4200 dollars on the Apple
#VisionPro
ie they will pay for apps, every indie should be building for this platform asap. 1 or 2 months development time is a small sacrifice for a chance to get in at the ground level. :)
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A customer who downloaded my main app in December 2022, just made their first in app purchase. Now if only another 100,000 users did the same thing… ;)
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I’ve finally decided to build an app idea I had right when ChatGPT came out. I mocked up the app’s screens yesterday. It’s already 13 screens & that’s just half of the app. I will build this app over the next few weeks. I’ve also worked out the In App Purchase pricing :)
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I thought the niche for my latest app wasn’t crowded. However on careful examination, there are a lot of very small apps fighting for position. Today I aggressively overhauled the ASO using
@TryAstroApp
Low Competition, Long Tail, Brand Names, Competitor Names, I did it all :)
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All I have is Paywall, RevenueCat & App Review Rating Logic left to put in this app. Maybe I will finish all the ASO today because I do not feel like coding anymore today. :)
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My app was approved. The strangest thing happened. The free trial + subscription were also approved yet they do not show up on the App Store Page. After downloading the app, the IAP still shows up and you can subscribe. I’ve never seen this happen before.
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I am researching all the competitors for the app I am releasing today. I downloaded them all, some have thousands of reviews. All of their apps are terrible. Terrible outputs, Terrible content showcases, Terrible bloated user interfaces. My 1 week MVP is superior to those apps.
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It was approved 15 minutes after this tweet. I was a little generous with this app. Allowing some free usage before the paywall. Based on this category, I also went lower for the weekly subscription. After 100 dls, If no one converts, I will reduce then eliminate free usage.
New app submitted. Promo Video processed within an hour, I was shocked. Lots of new ASO keywords are trending in this app category. I’m ready to ride the wave of user interest into profit :) Wow the app just went into review while I was typing this tweet.
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For the last 2 weeks, I have been working on a new app that will be the basis for 4-6 upcoming new apps. I just have onboarding instructions + a paywall with a free trial left to add. I’ve never done trials before. Should be a good learning experience.
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My first VisionOS app is 90% complete. Paywall + Paywall Logic, Sharing features are next.
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New app submitted. Promo Video processed within an hour, I was shocked. Lots of new ASO keywords are trending in this app category. I’m ready to ride the wave of user interest into profit :) Wow the app just went into review while I was typing this tweet.
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I enjoy catering to a small audience who are willing to invest in my apps long term. I just need to get to 5000-50,000 subscribers. When I first started my app career, I was excited by getting a million downloads. Did that a few times, now I just want the paying subscribers. :)
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@lucasleetyson
Even though you can make crazy money on the App Store, I would never follow the advice of someone who does the typical let me teach you how to make it scam. It’s a quick way to lose money before you even get started. I will block him so his grift never crosses my timeline again.
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@TechCrunch
I have 26 apps on the App Store, 20 of them are subscription based, all 20 have made money. Once you know what you are doing, things are smooth.
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One thing that I love the most about being an iPhone Developer is being able to get on the phone with someone at App Review within minutes. In most cases, it’s less than 1 minute. Real human customer support is priceless.
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As I try to learn how to code for Apple’s Vision Pro, I am reminded that most times I have no idea what I am doing. I just spent the last 2 hours trying to get an audio file to play from my app’s Reality Composer Pro bundle. It was magical once I finally got it to play :)
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For the 3rd time in a month, my app has been approved without IAP being approved. Something is definitely wrong with Apple Review. I submit an app, it gets rejected for some asinine reason, I make the fixes, then they approve it without IAP, who is in charge of App Review?
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I almost forgot to mention it. In between cooking and watching the Super Bowl, I built a Vision Pro app in 1 day. It was fun. I will release it this week. I really need to get back to iPhone app development. That’s the main revenue generator after all.
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@logankoshenka
Thanks! It was Swift/SwiftUI + lots of app ideas + being early + hard work + ASO via
@TryAstroApp
+ monetization via
@RevenueCat
. I think that’s everything!
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Me too! People always ask “Do you build apps for a company?” I’m like no, I build whatever I want. I build what I think people may want to use. I build what I want to use.
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The reason OpenAI is making their new ChatGPT model free is because AI needs lots of data to learn from, the best way to harvest data is to make their AI “free” then millions of unsuspecting users will offer their data for free. People should be aware of that.
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I broke down Vision Pro use cases into 3 Main Categories. Then I came up with 2 App Ideas per Category. Some are easier to build, most are on the more challenging side. If I build them all, profit is almost guaranteed. Currently, I am working on the app which excites me the most.
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Thank you for your service loyal customer. 🫡
#SwiftUI
#buildinprivate
#revenuecat
#indiedev
#indiehacker
#idontneedaboss
#idontneedajob
#hardworkpaysoff
@TryAstroApp
#inASOwetrust
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I have been quiet because I had to fight for my Apple Developer Account. It was almost taken away with the push of a button. Moving forward, I am embracing a multi account/multi llc strategy. I will also think of new business ideas that I can fully control from top to bottom.
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