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Simultaneously since 2015 the RCP, RCS and other Royal Colleges have fanatically created, organized, promoted and propagandized a parallel “clinician” pathway for those incapable of entering medical school — the UK’s horrifying variant of America’s Physician Assistants.
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What an amazing statement from
@DrPhilBanfield
!
Cannot believe the BMA now has the leadership of quality and strength to issue such statements.
A great start! 👇
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There is a PA sitting on the RCP council.
They are unelected too.
He must also resign and his post be abolished.
A non-doctor has no place in any doctor’s Royal College.
#RCPEGM
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Sunak: “I’m not giving doctors 35% by raising your taxes”
CLAPS from the audience.
Starmer: “I’ll negotiate with doctors, but I’m not giving them 35%”
Hope this dispels doctors’ ridiculous obsessions with “saving the NHS” “for the pUbLiC” by “vOtInG LaBoUrrrr”
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Many say doctors shouldn’t complain about money as their is pay is above average salary, despite being FAR ABOVE average in work ethic, intelligence, and compassion.
But we also have BARN DOOR average people hired as PAs for 30% higher wages than doctors
NHS is fking weird
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Only in the UK do people deny the fact that the best and brightest become doctors. This is accepted and applauded in literally every other country on Earth, except the UK where envy and doctor-bashing is a feature of the culture at large, enabled by the socialism of the “arrrNHS”
@energizerapid
It's not unique at all, and is incredibly arrogant, condescending, and indeed not universally true.
By your logic, "the brightest all-rounders of society" all without exception go on to study medicine.
In which case god help any other profession in existence.
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Just a friendly reminder that a Bulgarian medical school is still a medical school, and produces real doctors, accepted by the WHO and other international organizations.
Don’t try to pretend you’re better because you went to Keele Polytechnic PA clown college.
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A clown who has achieved nothing in his life and has no qualifications and deleted his Covid contract WhatsApp messages,
just passed a law which allows a group of clowns who have no qualifications and no brain power to experiment on patients.
UK is corrupt beyond belief.
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What the hell is wrong with you?
Specialty training is supposed to be for doctors, not anyone off the street who got a toy stethoscope at their 5th birthday party
It is a privilege to train as a doctor / specialist, a privilege reserved for those who WENT TO MEDSCHOOL.
Mad👇
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Next time your patient is deteriorating, ask:
- could it be sepsis?
And also
- could it be a PA?
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Can the doctor who had his leg broken by a faulty hospital lift sue the Trust?
All that time they force staff to do pointless elearning modules on health & safety, but they are putting the lives of staff in danger.
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Weird so many UK people simultaneously hold mutually exclusive positions:
1) arrogantly think they deserve unlimited free healthcare without strikes because a tiny number of them paid tax once
AND
2) recoil in horror when privatization and health insurance is suggested
🎂ism
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To
@thetimes
and anyone who needs to hear this:
You don’t own doctors
Doctors don’t owe you anything
Doctors won’t subsidize & prop up a failing health service
If you like free healthcare, start paying doctors properly
Until then, strikes will continue
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The PA experiment is a pipeline for medical school rejects to enter lucrative private practice roles which are denied to even senior registrars and early stage consultants
This allows connected people to enjoy an elite life denied to real doctors who are honest and hard working.
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When there’s an amazing surgery or new research
London Medical Schools:
🚨🚨Quick! Call the PAs! Call the MDT! Call the advanced super nurse practitioner! They must learn!! 🚨🚨
When there’s some shit to be cleaned up
London Medical Schools:
Quick! Call the medical students!☠️
🚨 NEW: Medical students have been drafted onto wards in the wake of the NHS cyber attack. They will work as floor walkers, hand delivering blood tests to and from the crippled pathology labs. Bosses at
@GSTTnhs
say disruption will last "at least 2 weeks" 1/2
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@oliverdevine
@SteveBarclay
A slip but it was pretty obvious that this was the plan of the political class.
The whole PA movement was supercharged after 2016’s doctor strikes.
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This shows: the public are envious fools who agree with cutting doctors’ pay as long as the NHS stays as cheaply funded as possible.
They deserve the NHS they have, and I hope the NHS is dismantled so they can literally pay what they think their health is worth.
Idiots.
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@r1chardf1tzg3r1
@RCSnews
@TMitchellFRCS
@AoMRC
@RCSEd
@rcpsglasgow
@TheBMA
@ASiTofficial
@bota_uk
@asgbi
@BritOrthopaedic
@the_mdu
@MPS_Medical
@AvMAuk
@PatientsAssoc
@WhichUK
@bmj_latest
@bbchealth
The de-doctoring of UK medicine gathers pace
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Point:
Only medical school graduates should do medicine/surgery because of their proven ability to learn/use vast amounts of knowledge with compassion.
Counter:
Anyone can do it in a 2 year diploma
Response:
Then shut down the medical schools and expand PA schools.
Is it time?
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Isn��t it time the UK army improved their skills mix?
I propose SA - soldier assistants.
They failed basic entry requirements and fitness tests for the army, they have poor aim, and can’t read maps.
But they always wanted to be a soldier, and their dad is a navy Admiral.
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🚨Barts 🤡 strikes again🚨
“we absolutely NEED a Renal Transplant PA”
“we are ABSOLUTELY committed to developing the PA profession”
🔵The question that needs to be answered is WHY? To both statements, WHY?!
🔵And what is wrong with the consultant in charge of all this??
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If the PA children of doctors, are so smart that they can be placed on accelerated fast track paths into elite medical specialities, why the fk couldn’t they get in to medical school in the first place?
Entire medical establishment working to please these pushy parents.
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Also anyone else noticed how the new unpaid role for medstudents is called:
“floorwalker”
And NOT the MDT-ish titles of:
“Pathology Associate”
“Advanced Transport Practitioner”
“Emergency Pathology Practitioner”
There’s this generalized pattern of insulting doctors…..
When there’s an amazing surgery or new research
London Medical Schools:
🚨🚨Quick! Call the PAs! Call the MDT! Call the advanced super nurse practitioner! They must learn!! 🚨🚨
When there’s some shit to be cleaned up
London Medical Schools:
Quick! Call the medical students!☠️
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Allied healthcare senior when colleague gets a certification:
“Well done, you smashed it!”
Consultant when junior doctor passes an exam where 70% fail (MRCP):
“So? I passed it too. You know, despite less medical knowledge/drugs, it was harder back in my day.”
Culture problem?
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One senior doctor says anyone with a YouTube diploma can be taught how to put a “tube in a tube.”
Another senior doctor says medschool grads, the brightest all-rounders of society, are “untrainable” and so should be replaced by the 2 year YouTube diploma holders.
Dementia much?
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I think we should call this the Gerada Effect.
Which speciality will be Gerada’d next?
I’ll put money on Emergency Medicine, followed by Internal Medicine, then Psychiatry.
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@DrInsurgent
How brave of her to highlight her Conflict of Interest FIVE YEARS after the fact, and erm… 2 weeks after Twitter pointed it out. — and then gets thanked for it too!
👏👏👏
@RCPhysicians
bogus clowns. 🤮
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@bengeemino
@theAliceRoberts
@TheBMA
@wesstreeting
Don’t compare your clown studies course in the UK with American PAs. American PA studies have much higher entry and progression requirements and most of the UK PAs would never get in.
Your previous degree in History or whatever is pointless.
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Who is in charge of the St George’s Urology Twitter/X account?
This sort of defensive and obfuscatory nonsense is not appropriate in light of the massive PA illegal radiation scandal exposed at Leeds Hospital 👇
1/4 It is sad to see the very public onslaught on Physician Associates. We are a unit with a proud history of teaching, training and investing in our junior doctors at all levels. We are an
@RCSnews
accredited fellowship training centre in Robotic surgery (
@IntuitiveSurg
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Stuff that PAs should be doing.
I spoke recently to a consultant who was spending a large part of their week writing letters and dealing with admin as they had no support staff. Not a great use of their time. NHS knows the cost of everything and value of nothing.
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@Doc_IonaCollins
Best thing would be to tell any PA who approaches you regarding a patient to go and speak directly with their consultant or the on call consultant
Juniors should not be taking any responsibility for the PA experiment and knighthood-chasing of the Colleges and traitor consultants
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PAs are used around the world as assistants.
The entry requirements for PAs are far higher abroad than the low intellects allowed in the UK.
In the UK dumb PAs are allowed to pantomime as doctors.
PAs aren’t going anywhere, but the NHS mortuaries are going to fill up fast.
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First of all,
PAs aren’t a profession,
secondly it is right and proper to tell everyone to discriminate between real doctors and your idiot army of quacks who are impersonating medical practitioners,
and who through such stunts YOU are encouraging to hurt and kill patients👇
We have recently seen discussions across social media about upcoming graduation ceremonies for our Medicine and Physician Associate programmes.
Read our full statement in response to these discussions here:
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If you know that the brightest students in the country (and world) take 5 years to become doctors,
but you think your thicko self can work as a medical registrar after a 2 year YouTube course,
then that itself proves how dumb and dangerous you are. Go back to your crayons.
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“Hello, I’m a senior consultant in left bile duct endoscopy.
I think those who went to medschool after me, despite requiring far more academic and other achievements to enter compared to me, are just not as intelligent and don’t have my work ethic.
So they are untrainable.”
🤡
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Dear 🇬🇧,
Please realize that,
When you go to a hospital for an emergency or a routine appointment, or to your GP,
You probably won’t be treated by a doctor.
Please take a few seconds to ask if the person seeing you is a doctor who went to medical school.
You’ll be surprised.
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@EmieMoose
The point of the PA:
1) let kids of powerful people with low grades and low work ethic pretend to be doctors but with zero accountability
2) let politicians pretend more patients are being taken out of waiting rooms and be “seen”
3) let politicians break the power of doctors.
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The irony of WhatsApp Bethell, rejected by the pubic in two elections — then sneaking in to leech off state wealth through a peerage,
now enabling PAs, rejected by medical schools, to experiment on patients — via an improper legal instrument.
Both with grudges against doctors.
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GMC🤡 are keen to intrude in every aspect of doctors’ professional and personal lives, all in the name of “patient safety”
BUT
Don’t care about and even support a bunch of medschool reject quack PAs running around and malpracticing “medical model” stunts on patients.
Defund!🤡
It always amazes me how quickly the Third Reich mobilised & adapted their legal system to try and clamp down on dissidents who disagreed with the state. Censorship of speech, state propaganda, punishment for dissidents etc.
Anyway, unrelated to all that is new GMC SoMe guidance.
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In the UK doctors are a laughing stock and treated like trash.
This is the logical end point of 75 years of a socialist, government controlled healthcare system.
👇
Less than 72 hours after
@BelfastTrust
held a HR/trainee workshop designed to improve working relationships, this sign was erected in the EMSU.
Absolutely unacceptable.
Further evidence of a cultural problem in the Belfast Trust.
I hope HR will respond appropriately.
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@SkyNews
@BethRigby
We don’t need your “analysis” we can hear what Galloway had to say in plain English, and can decide for ourselves. UK media is corrupt and abetting an increasingly authoritarian political class.
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The PAs unwillingness to call for help from a real doctor, keenness to cover up their incompetence, and the fact that all of them colluded with no one telling the first idiot to just ask for help.
A culture of coverup that will fit in well in the NHS.
PA had to ring OOH to speak to the on-call Dr
Sounds like there was no doctor on site
And a PA floundering with how to manage undiagnosed heart block and turning to whatsapp
This is so dangerously unsafe
PAs should not be seeing undifferentiated patients in primary care
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Note of advice: just because you attended PA clown diploma course located *at* a medical school, doesn’t mean you “attended medical school”.
You attended a PA School.
The output of medical school is real doctors.
The output of PA schools is quacks, I mean, PAs.
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You have a two year diploma in bullshit.
You are not a doctor. You cannot work as a doctor. You do not meet the minimum entry requirements to be a doctor.
If you think you are smart enough, apply to a medical school.
@medicalmodelbri
@parthaskar
Maybe not. But you cannot deny their value to multidisciplinary practice. The PAs are educated. Have a first degree in a science plus a two year intensive course in medicine. Show some respect!
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@_VivekTrivedi
Love all the hard work BMA is doing, but is FPR even enough?
No doctor at any stage should be earning a base pay less than a PA who didn’t go to medical school.
Can we update the pay demands pls?
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@amapresident
@TheBMA
Media is covering it up. Guardian today published a huge propaganda piece for the UKs strange version of PAs. So public are quite unaware in general. There was one good report from itvnews a few weeks ago citing the dangers.
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Right, because a doctor earning £15/hour gets to keep all of it, right? Like they don’t pay tax or NI? And then with the post-tax money, they don’t have to pay for gas, food, transport, council tax etc.? And examinations?
The comparison is valid. The NHS suppresses doctor pay.
Never use this example- it’s silly. Your plumber is charging that, but not making that.
The amount I charge in my business isn’t the amount I’m making from you. I have everything from overheads to my sick pay to cover.
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Going back to this buffoon comment about medicine not being “transactional”
— yes, it actually IS transactional
Students pay 100s of 1000s of Pounds to attend and get through medical school.
This isn’t your dinosaur era when the state gave you free tuition, housing, and food
Spectacularly unhelpful medtwitter pile-on again from people who aren't involved and don't know the severity of the situation.
If your hospital is in the middle of a critical incident, then medical students supremely capable of contributing to the effort, and if they want to
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Typical example of why the standard of medicine is degrading fast in the UK.
A senior doctor proudly claiming tasks that should be done by orderlies — or maybe PAs — as an appropriate use of serious professionals’ time is insane.
Sad virtue signaling rotting the profession 👇🤮
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I think giving blood to the NHS during strikes is a badly thought out policy, and insulting.
The UK health system is literally destroying the lives of doctors, and the BMA is telling those striking for their dignity, to give a literal blood sacrifice.
No thanks.
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This is medical cannibalism.
Why is a doctor talking about “throughput of patients”? This guy has imbibed the government problem of healthcare delivery and made it his own, lowering quality of care and endangering patients.
Hope his knighthood will save him from the PAs errors
The way these consultants gloat about training civilians to do surgery whilst their doctors fight tooth and nail to get to theatre is amazing
Punishment for having a medical degree
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@StuggySteve
@pcl100
The demands haven’t changed. The govt now has to put forward an offer that is a credible path to rectifying 15 years of pay erosion that led to a 26% drop in real terms pay. MPs are the only public sector workers whose pays have kept pace with inflation for that period.
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This is the future for most of us, even doctors.
When you’re old and have symptoms, you will be faced with a PA and ACP-led (“advanced care practitioner”) health service which degrades and demonizes real doctors.
And as a UK doctor, you will be too poor to afford private care.
This is appalling.
Mid 50s, cancer red flags ignored by PAs for 8 months.
This could be your dad.
The UK is failing patients, and planning to fail many more with the dangerous long term workforce plan.
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The tragedy of Mr Bates versus the Post Office is happening again in the NHS, due to faulty staff rather than software
The "PA scandal" will be worse than "Horizon" because it can harm many hundreds of thousands of patients and their families
Please share
Don't let it happen👇
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Sunak doesn’t want to give anything to junior doctors because he’s a medschool reject and couldn’t take over his fathers GP practice
Confirmation from
@TheSpectator
that political dogma from
@10DowningStreet
blocks resolution of the doctor disputes?
@TheBMA
fights to give patients doctors; is £20/hr ‘unrealistic’? You call us militant, we stand now for the future of UK medicine & the NHS.
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@Ask_foradoctor
It’s like saying those who have newly gotten a driving license should be restricted to 40 mph on motorways, while those who failed the driving test are allowed to drive at 100 mph on any road.
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RCP knighthood seekers have now become politicians. They are no longer doctors.
But we knew this all along.
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@mikegoulden
Meanwhile someone who didn’t study hard as a kid to get good gcses and alevels and who couldn’t get into medical school, get to do a 2 year pa course and then walk into any cardiology dept they choose and get trained in procedures, have reserved clinics, and a 7 digit GMC number
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@IanLaveryMP
Well said.
The Sunak regime, aided by Starmer, is attempting to create a shoddy police state in the UK
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@adb0wen
@ElshadKarbasi
What are you talking about? American PAs have much harder entry requirements and are trained to a much higher standard than the clown force that has been created in the UK with the same name.
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@Burnt2020
Yup. But they won’t shut down medical schools. They need the best and brightest to go in there and become real doctors — because that’s only way to ensure there will be intelligent people to do the real work AND be liability sponges to take all blame. While credit goes to “MDT”
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PAs interested in the role can contact the consultant in charge for info and even arrange an open day to visit the unit.
Can some doctors please just contact the consultant and ask if they can come visit the unit too for an open day?
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@BadInfl69003077
@Dr_BellaR
Lol. It wasn't NHS staff lazing at home on 80% of their pay, baking cakes, and binging on Netflix, during the pandemic. Every time I read a load of nonsense like this I pray more for the end of the NHS and full privatization.
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@timricketts_
Yup.
And PAs got 5.5% for free with no strikes.
Doctors got 6% after 2 years of strikes.
PAs starting now still 10k higher than a F1.
BMA betrayal.
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No one asked you. You have no qualification to talk on health related matters — much like the medschool reject “PAs” who you have empowered to experiment on patients.
The only connection to healthcare you have is your childhood grudge against a doctor.
Britain's obesity crisis demands urgent action. Failure to act could lead to financial ruin. Voters are clamoring for change, and politicians must step up now!
Check out my interview with
@EveningStandard
.
#HealthyNation
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@drokane
“Being a pilot associate with no regulations or formal pathways gives me the freedom to do whatever the airline wants, which is very useful for them”
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@dannyjnwong
Meh, if I was a doctor I wouldn’t wait until I was almost 60 to get a measly 130k while doing such a strenuous job including high level studies from age 14.
There are 26 year olds with a 3 year BSc (scoring 2.1) earning £125k.
Doctors are Underpaid. Not worth it.
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With hindsight we can see that the Royal College of Physicians were at the forefront of the de-doctoring of UK NHS medicine. 🧵
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@OReillyGem
You’re basing the entire story (propaganda for an unsafe experiment on patient lives) on a statement from an unelected and unaccountable body that categorically does NOT represent the views, concerns, or beliefs of the vast majority of *real* and non-Honor-seeking doctors.
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As
@doctor_oxford
so succinctly put it:
“Medical degrees & post-grad exams are the gold standard in healthcare for a reason”
I’m fed up explaining this basic fact to the medical establishment.
Docs: look, the sky’s blue, we’ve known for thousands of years
RCP: “no it’s pink.”
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Any chance the BMA could put out a motion to Denounce the AoRMC and the Royal Colleges (except RCoA)?
A louder and stronger message needs to go out. The Colleges are still in denial about the unprecedented levels of anger among doctors at being sold out for unqualified PAs.
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9 years out of practice but still a real doctor, unlike you reject quacks.
@profjimspeaks
@iDrSunny
@iDrSunny
talks alot of shit for someone who hasn't been clinical since 2015.
That's 9 years out of clinical practice.
9 years out of
@NHSuk
Never worked with a Physician Associate for atleast 9 years.
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Ah yes, the open, people-loving NHS Health Education England, with great interest in public consultation…
Just shut down a survey cos too many real doctors replied, telling the Big Bosses what they thought of the unqualified, uneducated, overpaid PAs being flooded into the NHS?
Why has this survey been closed or deleted?
I wonder if they started getting replies they weren’t expecting.
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@raiiqridwan
Yup I saw one of them making fun saying something like “remember some doctors in the UK went to medschool in Bulgaria” to imply that a PA from the UK was better than doctors from Bulgaria/Eastern Europe medschools
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@DrEilidhMaria
A lot of the anti-fpr argument always boils down to nonsense “perks” for doctors that don’t actually exist.
Oh but they get x and y… but actually they don’t Steve and Karen, they don’t. That’s why they’re striking.
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A damning indictment of the UK's PA experiment.
Royal Colleges — powerful, unaccountable and unelected — have responded with derision whenever concerns have been raised.
Their cheap reply: these are "toxic" and "tribalist" whines of a minority
But are doctors ready to act?🧵
📢 New
#ASiT
Report on Physician Associate Impact on Surgical Training and Patient Care 🏥👩⚕️
🔍 Largest ever ASiT survey: 1,978 doctors across all surgical specialties in the UK.
🤝 Focus: Physician Associates (PAs) impact on surgical training and patient care
📈 73.8% worked
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@sillyoldjen
@Roger_Organ
Medical students are allrounders — they have very high grades consistently from a very young age, they play sport and music, do all kinds of extracurricular activity, and are also tested for abstract reasoning, logic, etc and humane qualities through a rigorous selection process.
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I have long called for the defunding and disbandment of the Royal Colleges.
The foul play by senior RCP leaders at the rigged EGM, already delayed in contravention of College rules, must surely be the final straw.
The solution to gangrene is amputation of the rot.
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@pvj____21
@AlexPanton1
@doctor_dru_
Yes time off is important for doctors. Or you think they are robots to treat you for free?
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@Dr_Done_
GMC regulation will only make things worse for them, and will drive the exodus of doctors from the UK healthcare system to new countries or professions.
Without doctors to hold their hands and forced to take responsibility for their malpractice, they will be out of a job.
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@Hardley76
@jonsopel
Self determination??
the Maidan coup led to an anti-Russia regime which ended decades of Ukrainian neutrality and instead went for antagonism.
This led to war. Even if most Ukrainians wanted to join NATO (they didn’t), sovereign decisions don’t exist in vacuum.
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Are you, only expert in deleting Covid Contract handout WhatsApp messages, seriously accusing others of a campaign of intimidation?
You, who along with the greedy clowns in the Royal Colleges, are using the power of the state to allow thickos to experiment on patients?
Get lost
When AA/PAs say they feel shamed and bullied by a campaign of intimidation, this distasteful thread is the sort of thing they mean. 👇
Anyone could do something similar for any profession. But I hope they do not because life depends on collaboration and teamwork so we should act
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@amapresident
@TheBMA
By the way, this is how the President of the Royal College of GPs speaks about PAs.
A blatant lie about the dangers of unqualified practitioners (+ paid more than Drs) being allowed to see patients (plus they are immune from any prosecution/malpractice claim - unlike doctors)👇
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@AnaesUnited
Thank you to all the REAL Anaesthetists who took part!
You’ve lifted the spirits of tens thousands of junior doctors across the UK, those aiming for anaesthesia and all other specialties.
Thank you so much for your faith in us as your current and future colleagues!
#RCoAEGM
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@goldstone_tony
@_VivekTrivedi
@RobLaurensonD4P
@Doctors_Vote
@TheBMA
@BMA_JuniorDocs
@NHSMillion
@trentconsultant
@ERunswickBMA
@DrPhilBanfield
You are a legend Dr Goldstone! Thank you for your tireless work and for supporting your colleagues, including junior colleagues!
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@MercurialRx
Yes the standard of medical education in Eastern Europe is very good.
Plus they don’t have all the “ethics” bullshit like SJT/MSRA — the only thing that UK medicine excels at: turning the most supremely subjective matter, ethics, into a test to rank people for jobs with.
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@ClareGerada
@Dr_BellaR
Well you & other clowns in the Royal Colleges and NHS admin are already creating “Chief PA” roles and proposed “Lead PA” and “Consultant PA” roles at even higher salaries so I’d expect the medschool rejects you love will earn consistently more over the next 29 yrs too. NHS circus
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Annoying that people don’t want to pay high skilled medical/dental professionals.
They call it “greed” that dentists want to be paid for their skills.
LEARN TO PAY FOR YOUR HEALTHCARE you communist entitled fools.
Avoid the milkshakes and brush your teeth!
Idiots.
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@WelshGasDoc
They’re probably too busy doing neurosurgery, medical clinics, and carrying the stroke consultant bleep.
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So according to the parasitic GMC, the only difference between a doctor and a PA is the length and content of the course.
Just as the only difference between a typical GMC clown getting fat off doctors’ direct debits and Michael Jordan is height, ability, skill, and talent.
We have an answer from the GMC
According to them, PAs study medicine, just not the same as a doctor who studies it for 5 years.
Whats different? The time and the content.
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@BladeoftheS
And the rich will be able to afford it while two middle class parents who save and save to put their kid there will not, and will be forced to send their kid to a state school. Larger class sizes for state schools 👏👏👏👏👏
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@doctor_oxford
It’s shocking that senior radiologists are allowing PAs who have no proven knowledge of anatomy to perform the most intricate of interventional radiology procedures.
What’s gotten into the heads of Royal Colleges and consultant radiologists?
Seems like the Post Office again
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Where is
@SecretNHSCEO
?
The medical profession is United like never before — even more proof!
United, fighting against a PA experiment foisted upon unsuspecting patients by an out of touch knighthood-seeking medical establishment oligarchy led by
@DacreJane
and other weirdos.
As we all knew and expected, the vocal “minority” is actually the vocal majority and the silent “majority” is actually an atom in an ocean.
Very pleased to see
#RCPEGM
motions have passed, despite the leadership’s efforts to influence the vote.
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@Azeem_Majeed
The main question is why they specifically called for medical students — many of whom won’t even have a F1 job — instead of calling up their army of “generalist specialist” PAs and their pet MDT members too
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Stick this in your ARCP portfolio under “a conversation that never happened”
as an aside, working yesterday in AMU a couple of juniors told me (without my even raising the subject) that they felt the online stuff re PAs had gone too far (despite legit concerns) & they really didn't like it & it unsettled PAs they worked with
I haven't heard that before
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