@UltiPlanet cowardice

Best (short) thing I've read recently is about the throughlines from Bush to Trump and how they can be understood via Guantánamo and The Other:

Just try, as an experiment, *playing through fouls* and just... letting yourself be fouled and cheated sometimes. Just... respond to calls without attaching meaning to the outcome. Be more like an elephant calmly acting upon the world than a squirrel immediately reacting to it.

@brandeasy2313 This notification is buried under like 6 new bot accounts following me and this one of many reasons i'm barely on the twitters these days.

@jennvalFYI @colinmci @wi_statebird Yes we should listen (I do mean *actually listen* not just prep a rebuttal). Pretty much disagree with everything else you typed though. We don't officiate frisbee as individuals. We are a crew of 14+ officials who, in order to do our jobs well, must seek common understanding.

Before enlightenment: Chop wood, carry water After enlightenment: Chop wood, carry water

@benfinks @colinmci @wi_statebird Not sure I am following here. Is the argument that we should ticket all speeders, tailgaters, & roll-throughs? It has been a few days & I'm unclear what exactly we were typing about even if i go back and read b/c the replies are very hard to follow across the diff discussions.

@jennvalFYI @colinmci @wi_statebird The hypotheticals are to explore a concept which I have seen applied in ways that I do not understand and which Colin has mentioned are not quite how the rules were intended to work. If I came across as hand-wringy that is an error on my end.

@TKarnes2 @colinmci Yeah I just assumed it was a block there b/c replaying the video on twitter is a pain in the ass interrupted by ads and it seemed like a defensive play. Buy yes that doesn't change my read on it.

@colinmci @RyanNatzke @ultimatepulse @wi_statebird Oh I'm gonna start proposing flipping discs to resolve do-overs. I like that. And it would stop me (and maybe others?) from being so goddamn disappointed in player-officials who are "just following the rules" which just so happen to coincide with them getting a second chance.

@colinmci @RyanNatzke @ultimatepulse @wi_statebird I can confirm that this is precisely the way that Colin plays. I, in my younger days, would've go in to make the play anyway while doing my best to control/manage the contact. These days I just stay away and hope the disc makes an intelligent decision of its own accord.

@TKarnes2 @colinmci That's a block. If white *insists* the contact was sufficient for a plain foul call, there is a discussion to be had. This is precisely the sort of call that makes me throw stuff & stop watching games. Ultimate chooses to be an awful spectator sport & this is one of the ways.

@benfinks @colinmci @wi_statebird I appreciate your extreme analogy & it is useful for limit testing. However the risks are not comparable nor are the mental states of the actors. In the end your analogy leads me to a more entrenched position that in ulty the actual outcome matters more than potential outcomes.

@RyanNatzke @colinmci @ultimatepulse @wi_statebird You are rewarding the offense by giving them the disc back after thwir throw created a dangerous play. I despise do overs. I accept that they are useful and even necessary. But any solution which does not involve "pretend this never happened" is a better solution. *to me*

@wi_statebird Ooo! That's a good point and a perspective I had not considered. Thanks for adding.

@colinmci @ultimatepulse @wi_statebird Which brings me to another point I've danced around: Club v rec v HS v younger should *not* be using the same rulesets. The stall should shrink as we age/improve, the allowance for controlled danger/risk should increase commensurate w level of play, &c That's another convo tho

@colinmci @ultimatepulse @wi_statebird Is that more common? This is a block w contact I've been on both sides of. I do not call that foul unless you elbow me or something extra. To me, that's your disc & the offense has some things to work on. All collisions are not dangerous. But I have bias against calls generally.