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I will give you words and a wisdom that none of your opponents will be able to withstand or contradict - Lk 21:15🇻🇦
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Joined December 2022
Why was Mary sinless and also a perpetual virgin? (Jesus did not have other brothers). (Part 1) - Sin and incompatibility to God's nature. Think about this: what is sin, even if it's the "smallest" sin? It is 'disobedience', the rejection of grace, rejection of God's Holy Spirit, and is rebellious by nature. "By nature" i.e. It will repeat acts of disobedience. (Isaiah 1:2). Such a rebellious nature is subject to the flesh/sin/Satan. (Romans 7:18-20, Romans 6:16, Ephesians 2:1-3) (A) A nature even fractionally following 'the prince of the power of the air' is unfitting to the Perfectly Holy God. He WILL NOT incarnate in a body that disobeys/rebels/rejects Him, even by a fraction of a fraction. (B) A fallen nature is incompatible with the nature of God. To understand the gravity of disobedience or sin, we should realize that an entire species for millennia was cast away by one woman's disobedience. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23) - ... when one has sinned, they fall short of the glory of God. Such a soul/flesh is incompatible with God. (C) This is why Mary had to be spotless. Not because of her, BUT FOR THE ONE who chose her. A perfectly Holy God demands, not material royalty but, perfect obedience and perfect love. Mary had to be preserved in perfect obedience, not by her own strength but by the fullness of grace. What is the fullness of grace: the effect is being DEAD to sin, in other words, PERFECT OBEDIENCE. (Part 2) - Can Jesus not take form in sinful flesh? If one has come to terms with the idea "Mary sinned", let me ask... If we assume Mary sinned, what is the "tolerable error" God will not cross to decide who can be His mother on earth? Can it be someone who is occasionally selfish, or someone who dislikes the neighbor, or someone who lies? Can the HOLY and PERFECTLY PURE Infant, while being in the womb, tolerate a lying mouth or a spiteful heart? If your answer is no, we can get to part (3). (Please do see, as a Catholic, so far nearly everything I wrote about was the Holiness and Glory of God, not an exaltation of Mary.) (Part 3) If she was preserved, couldn't God have just made everyone like that? And HOW was she preserved? There is just ONE Jesus, and ONE incarnation, therefore only ONE woman had to be preserved that way. Because... Jesus came to open the floodgates of grace for everyone, to be like Mary, to rely on the grace to become perfectly obedient. (Matthew 12:49-50). So though her preservation was executed differently, it delivered the same grace to EVERYONE. How? The answer is abundance or fullness of grace, and her cooperation in subjecting her will to that grace. (Part 4) So why should she remain in perpetual virginity? After all, having a relationship with your husband and bearing children are God's call. She can't have lost holiness through that. (A) Isaiah 7:14 'The virgin (הָעַלְמָ֗ה - ha'almáh) will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.' The original Hebrew text points to the mother of Immanuel as "The Virgin" ("ha" is a definite article in Hebrew). Which is an identity, as opposed to a state at the time of Jesus' birth. If Mary no longer remained a virgin, she would no longer be "the virgin". (B) Genesis 3:15- "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers, he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." The protoevangelium prophecies the woman and her one offspring. If Mary had other offspring, do they all exceptionally merit the same enmity which other sons of men did not? It had to be only Jesus, and any enmity the sons of men inherit with Satan should be only through Jesus. (C) One could argue that we know Jesus, and that's why this prophecy is applicable only to Jesus, not other children. But she was called with only one purpose from the beginning of time - to fulfill the protoevangelium - to be the mother of the Messiah. She was specially created for Jesus. Maybe going into a philosophical argument, one could argue there was no man on earth fitting to become one flesh with her - the purest of all women. (Genesis 2:24/Eph 5:32) (D) Hypothetically, if Mary did have other children, where is the record and genealogy of this chosen privileged few to have been conceived and nurtured in the exact same womb and flesh that "God of creation" incarnated? (E) And largely, we have to recognize it - because it is the truth. Early church fathers and even the first reformers defended it, that she remained a virgin. The purpose was only to preserve and defend a truth, rather than let lies take form.
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Whatever, but your argument is ignorant. A demon appears in the form of Mary to a person in Mexico, and through whom 8 million pagan human sacrificing tribes repent and come to Christ. At Fatima and at Lourde, do you know the number of Holy Masses being celebrated each day ? At least one every hour. There is no greater Honor to God than a Holy Mass. I can debate you to my grave on that. Not your reformed mega church dance and dj, but true worship as in scriptures.
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@Florida_OG @IFightForMary @farmingandJesus U celebrate false pastors. We celebrate the greatest Christian ever - the mother of Jesus
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@GowingCatholic @AshleyStinnett @KennyBurchard U guys give the rest of us.hope that its not all futile though there are many resounding gongs here
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Are these the claims you want me to break down from scripture? In addition dont care whether you use KJV or what. I will refrain from using the church fathers as the fundamental basis, but if it comes up to a matter of interpretation- then yours alone or my alone can be as heretic as a JW. unless you can demonstrate that your interpretation is infallible and beyond the wisdom of an entire church which God granted through the early church fathers. ! Note what i said: to support the interpretation of scripture but not as a basis outside scripture. Agree to the terms? If not what are your disagreement and why?
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@waterfowlfnp @MrCasey62 @NWxz13 @rockreborn22 Wow. How did you know? I am really impressed by the depth of your deduction skills! Why dont you show me faith alone from the bible, if you think u have it! Man is justified by works, not faith alone.
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Are you sure of everything you have written? If i give you scripture against your arguments, where does that leave you? In addition, the early church understood scripture as i will explain to you not as you understand in your anti-catholic sentiments. Before i ask, can you prove your statement with absolute certainty- that (1) here is scripture (2) here is your infallible interpretation (3) here is why you know your interpretation is true. Dont give me the argument because the Holy Spirit revealed to you, because every heretic says that including JWs
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And it has aids to 1.5 billion people. What is in Rome - a 70% of it is art. Not something u can break apart anddistribute. The value of it comes from where it is, the age it has been preserved and the regular maintenance of it. Does Vatican have money, yes a lot. Are there bishops elsewhere living in luxury- absolutely. Corruption is a part of human existence. The question is it theologically endorsed by the church? Nope. That is why we know who lives a corrupt life as opposed to mega church pstors who claim wealth is God’s blessing to them while almost all of it is tithe.
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Where you didnt succeed is this: the first 4 pictures are the Holy Mass. The next 4 are perhaps some of the chapels adorned like the temple Solomon built. Thats not the pope’s residence. The last 2- do you know the Catholic church as a whole is possibly the largest charity operator in the world?
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RT @MrCasey62: An example of the great graphics in @How2BeChristian’s videos. Note he simply shows the Catholic teaching on the left—all fr…
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@sola_chad And deserving of Baptism. Because the Holy Spirit doesnt deny him, and so who is a man to deny him the water of baptism?
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@MrCasey62 It makes them so nervous to think they need to do something. It seems like they are holding on to Faith alone like it's a get out of jail free card.
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I missed the part where Jesus prescribed that "thou shalt express thy love for me only through step 1 2 and 3, and everything else is prohibited". IN fact, when the sinful woman washed his feet with Myrrh, he didn't stop her. And I also missed the part that Jesus said "there is no heavenly community, and you guys are lonely". In fact, he made it possible for saints to interact with us, and Holy Spirit through St. Paul made it clear where we are in relation to the heavenly community.
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@rockreborn22 @MrCasey62 how does it feel to like you are being bitten by the same venom of lies @rockreborn22 ? 80% of your posts are incredible lies and misstatement, that your father (of lies) is very proud of you.
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