It's 2023 and we still have ppl on here saying "gee I can't believe people pay $100 for lulu pants"
I don't care if you are not a consumer specialist, but you're living under a rock if you still are confused by this
What’s the best explanation for why $DG has fallen apart over the past few yrs? Is it just share loss to $WMT + inflation blowing up the PnL?
Old enough to remember when this was one of the highest quality and “compounder” retail stocks
Throwing this out there. Any 18+ college students with kitchen experience in the NYC area willing to come out and help me prep for a beach BBQ middle of next week. $150 for the day. Location is Rockaway Beach accessible by subway.
Perk is that you get to hang out with a bunch
It actually is not at all what you need to know about brand valuations. It’s what you need to know about low growth, post-peak/fad brands that have saturated their core mkt and are functionally single product
What’s $DECK valuation look like? Moncler?
Canada Goose doing $1.25B in revenue, at 70% gross margins, and 150m EBIT trading at $1.15B market cap is all you need to know about consumer brand valuations right now.
Market cap is down 75% since 2019.
Just buy “numbers going up” instead of trying to figure out what stocks are “babushka dolls”
The game is hard enough why do we need to overcomplicate and galaxy brain this stuff (other than for marketing I guess)
The more whining I see on here about dumb money, broken markets, etc just makes me respect the great “traders” over “investors” more and more. Seems those guys don’t bitch and moan (as much) and they just try to figure out how to make money on what is vs what ‘should’ be
$MTCH holders hoping that some day, one day, Tinder users will grow again. Until then, they're not wrong just early (again) and playing the dangerous game of internet value investing
Pershing Square' s valuation for Starbucks in 2017. They thought the company will worth 97 to 122$ in 2021. Fast forward to 2024, and is worth 72$ from 56$ at the date of valuation.
Be careful with projections, especially high growth rates
$PSH $SBUX
Yup. Twitter folks won’t shut up about how bad chipotle is, won’t eat there anymore, etc, yet the numbers continue to paint a completely different narrative
Investing on your n=1 anecdotes in consumer continues to be a fool’s errand. And a favorite fintwit pastime.
You know I keep seeing TikToks saying Chipotle is dying because of bad orders or whatever and then I see quarterly earnings. 7% comps in 1Q on 5% transactions.
Chipotle customers must be gluttons for punishment. $CMG
Why shouldn't I short $SNAP pre-print?
Seems crowded long now, stock up a lot recently, tends to blow up on earnings, the megas are growing so much faster and at scale so feels like very little breathing room or rev share gain opportunity for this one
Too many dorks on this site, might be time to hang it up. The loser-posting on my feed is incredible. But maybe the Twitter gods are just telling me something about myself…
A lotta ppl on here whining about how others are on vacation / not working. Have you, anon, considered also just enjoying life too or must everyone be as miserable as you?
#BREAKING
: Bill Belichick, who lost two Super Bowls to the Giants, expected to part ways with Patriots later today, reports say, as 24-year tenure ends with regular season loss to Jets
@CCM_Brett
No bullet point on payers huh
If you’re gonna fret about an earnings print reaction, helps to focus on the KPI that’s most important for the stock (and btw that KPI is not currently saying that this is a secular grower)
Is Athletic Greens a scam?
The IG ads/influencers/podcast ads suggest to me that there is way too much marketing magic here and probably plenty of as 'effective' cheaper stuff out there
I'm a month into my treadmill desk experiment and I'm hooked.
It's the easiest way to get more steps without thinking about it or spending much effort.
If you have a desk job I highly recommend getting one.
@MadThunderdome
$BURL - prob gonna miss for the 4th consec qtr even after slashing guide, execution a mess, losing share w/ industry getting super promotional, still trading at 20x '23 P/E
Imo the real mystery is why shorts always think they are gonna see the 20% gap down on a print, are proven wrong time and time again, yet they do not learn
@bucketshopcap
they want the 10-K question-askers to kill time so pod analyst
#32
doesn't beat them up with gross margin mix math questions for 30 minutes
Hearing the following from VCs:
"We think SVB balance sheet looks ok, but can't risk being wrong."
It's the loss of confidence that leads to bank runs. Not necessarily the underlying fundamentals.
So $DG is pulling a $DIS here bringing back the CEO who basically set up the co for the current mess it's in
Stock up on lowered guide and CEO change...is this enough to finally put the bottom in?
@bucketshopcap
Once interviewed for a gig that required trading and sending updates on a months-long paper portfolio, a model case study, and several one-offs on portfolio/positioning/idea theses based on the mock port. Firm folded as process was wrapping up. Good riddance, huge waste of time
$FTCH 💩. Just to quickly Monday morning qb it, was the short as simple as 1- aspirational luxury datapoints have sucked, 2- China bad, 3- guiding to aggressive accel and guidance track record bad?
Tbh the guys that sound like this are the idiots. Prob have been short on the same dumb valuation thesis while TINA, ecosystem lock, idfa ad share steal, staples re-rate, and who knows what’s next just keeps kicking them in the nuts
You have to be the dumbest fuck in dumb fuck history to pay 30x for $AAPL.
Basically nothing new on these phones and they have no growth.
Stock should be at 15x. This is so stupid.
@TwannsWorld
Blows my mind how sticky LO capital can be despite such prolonged underperformance. Many such cases
Say what you will about HF u/p or HF allocators just chasing momo but at least capital gets pulled pretty quickly after a couple yrs of crap returns
BofA:
Crocs sales in China increased over 100% in 2Q23 and 90% in 3Q23. Rising popularity in China has been supported by a hashtag known as “dongmen” or clog followers; today, the brand has roughly 60mn “dongmen” hashtags compared to 40mn at the end of 2Q23.
on a 11 hr flight from seoul back to sf, my bf & i were reminiscing about how good it felt to be out of the country for 3 weeks and not be recognized by anyone…
until literally the moment we landed, someone in the row behind us recognized us - a great welcome back to sf! lmao
Sell side restaurants note shows number of tiktok and instagram followers per store. $WING is low and $SHAK is high and yet WING has been a good stock and SHAK bad. Maybe the most useless chart I've seen in a while
How many times we gotta see fintwit try to short $CMG because they all like to complain about price on this website rather than do any work on the stonk
I feel like $CMG could disappoint on earnings. GLP-1 doesn’t favour them, I have noticed several people online saying they no longer go to Chipotle due to recent price changes or lower quality.
All this is circumstantial but maybe it effects them just enough.
No position.
@decr_martian
if you're a not-brand-new long i'm guessing you've been hoping for a reported payers growth inflection for some time now and those expects have kept getting pushed out. IMO you need reported Tinder payer growth / sustained positive net adds for stock to work, simple as that
So $RH starts buying back a ton of stock and ppl think that means demand bottomed/stabilized. Oops
Release says sales will improve in coming qtrs and inflect in 1H24 but that's entirely premised on just them having new product? Seems to be a bigger demand variable here IMO
Does Mr Porter typically run 25% off sales on new in season product this time of year? LVMH missed, think we already knew aspirational lux on shaky ground, just trying to understand if FTCH numbers going even lower
@x3nophan3s
the one piece of advice I'd give to young people is: do NOT take advice from a Canadian wealth mgmt analyst telling you to turn down that Pershing gig!
@JBierne
what has to "give" is payers returning to growth and until we see that, TV remains in question. way too many value ppl losing minds on this and keep saying it's cheap (it gets cheaper), buybacks (who cares), elliott (no topline answers)
what matters for internet stocks to work?
Every person who became a millionaire by 30 had at least one of the following:
(1) inheritance/parental support
(2) a very high income
(3) a large income event (i.e. crypto, IPO)
If they attribute their success to anything else, they are lying.
Congrats to $PLCE longs that didn't panic sell when the company was facing bankruptcy (a couple days ago).
As I've always believed, it is better to be lucky than good (or smart).
@neverhedgecap
I don’t know if it’s a long yet, but watching fintwit acting like vuori and alo competition based on anecdata is some novel insight only after the 40% drawdown is par for the course (and none of these guys were short)
$LULU and $NKE both in the doghouse. NT trends at both suck. Bull case on both is transitory/eventually get their mojo back and brands are strong and will be fine.
Why is NKE trading at such a massive premium?
@S_curvecap
@DummyCapital
The biggest issue (beyond biz complexity) is that top brands rule the roost in lux and don’t need $FTCH. It’s long-tail luxury with more fad/fashion cyclicality. Beauty already launched, was supposed to be a ‘22 driver, and isn’t moving the needle (at least yet)
@viggy_krishnan
@S_curvecap
@DummyCapital
Yup, but industry is shifting more to DTC and it’s an industry where top brands really dominate + cont to gain share so yes shift to online is good but wholesale mix shrinking and tier 2/3 share shrinking maybe a good not great spot. FPS most interesting part of the story LT imo
Beating a dead horse here, but for all the concerns about valuation, the two most expensive luxury companies are the only ones that beat and saw ests up/unchanged post-3Q results
Not sure what the lesson is other than maybe sometimes you do get what you pay for?
@CDMCapital
Imagine holding on for that long when it’s been evident for many years now that it is no longer a “premier luxury brand”
This is a fashion stock. A lot of them look like this. Own them when the brand is hot and dump ‘em when the growth story/brand heat has tapped out
What's the fundamental case for $IAC from here? Seems like bulls just want to follow Diller + SOTP, which don't seem like great theses. Yes I get the stub is cheap, but what's the value unlock now? Also Diller/Levin are rich already and hero worship isn't a thesis (1/2)
UES NYC parent success formula
Get kid into Trinity
They get into Harvard
They get job at Goldman
They get into Stanford GSB
They get a job at Blackstone
What did I get wrong?
Nothing to add to the discourse around the actual event other than THIS is what twitter was made for.
Not those office girls dancing or hawk tuah slop clogging the feed
Guy I know was getting ready to propose to his girlfriend, but was nervous.
He's very analytical, and reached out to many of his married friends/contacts.
After meticulous data gathering and conversations, his conclusion:
"90% sure. That's about as high as anyone gets."
@phoenixvalue
Because Boston is boring as hell so you either get your gritty depiction or none at all
You want to see finance or tech bros (to each their own I guess)? Ok, there are much better cities for that
Dumb take. Do most Olympic athletes get paid a lot?
Me, when I watch the Eagles: "Wow, I sure like watching when my team plays well. But you know what would make the viewing experience better for me? If Landon Dickerson was richer and got his contract extension before the game."