larian should fix the bug where if you kill a bunch of things the moment you leave and come back the dead bodies do their dying animations again and it gives you a fucking heart attack like macbeth seeing banquo’s ghost
the way some ppl talk about bg3 you’d think it was a racy dating sim huniepop style and not a battle-heavy rpg that can span 50-250 hours for a single run
ok tbh when ppl say bg3 doesn’t qualify as queer media if you can totally avoid queerness i just think they haven’t played the game fully? bc a major part of act 2 is either saving an immortal lesbian or killing her and making her gf so grief-stricken it massacres an entire town
i don’t put astarion away to maintain his approval when i do nice stuff because i think he should suffer my kindness. it builds character, i hope it makes his stomach turn like an ibs girl
when i say i think astarion should be thinner or less muscular i don’t mean like twinkified i mean bony and gaunt and angular and haunting, like a ghoul. he’s been starved for 2 centuries, where’s the horror of it?
i recall seeing ppl say they didn’t realize cazador starts the ascension rite after so many turns and i never experienced that. i only recently realized like, are you not helping astarion down immediately??? are you fighting with 3 people????
tbh bg3 definitely could’ve benefited from multiple like, body *shapes* with the body types cause imagine a very tall, willowy body type 4 or thick, stockier body type 2. muscular type 1 or a soft and fat type 3
a lot of bg3 fans hate fat folk so much like sorry that fruity elf wants my big ass bc i got more blood than you do. sorry karlach lifts weights bc she wants to pick me up and spin me around and bounce me on her di—
even this EXPLANATION is racist. bc why would a 19 year old girl play the “mothering” type villain in this movie??? and why would you believe that. like she was just 18 a few months ago she looks no where near that fckin old
i think larian should add a patch that lets you kiss any npc in bg3, except it works like pickpocketing and you have to pass a DC 30 check but it’s your lowest stat and if you fail it starts a big blowout fight with every other npc attacking you
wyll, explaining his devil pact and how he fought off a cult summoning tiamat: so that’s how i lost my eye!
me: (totally engaged but in a hungry for cawk voice) that’s sooooooo incredibly cool and impressive and you’re sooo powerful and
wyll: are you taking off your clothes
UNfriendly reminder that narratively, if Wyll wasn’t manipulated into that pact, bg3 would not exist! there would be no dead three, EVERYBODY in that city would be dead!
this thread may be the last thing i post related to bg3. this is a timeline of what has happened along with the tons of racially charged abuse that has been thrown on my REAL name. after this, i may start breaking mutuals, deleting ALL bg3 posts, and exiting this community. 🧵
look. can this studio at least reassure us that they’re doing something for wyll EVENTUALLY or am i just supposed to be happy that the only Black character is basically shafted for everything and pretend like that’s okay??? like this has been going on too long
i’m gna be so real. i totally understand the “milking it” takes but i can’t tell you how disappointing it is (at this moment, at least) to hear that the team is done with bg3 when saying wyll’s romance and overall character is lackluster in many story beats is euphemistic at BEST
all the comments are making me cry laugh bc it’s kinda either “nooo don’t remove it it’s so funny” or “i felt a new type of fear previously unknown to man so intense i collapsed into dust”
like i understand classifying things as “queer” is malleable and strange bc it shifts but like. you actually cannot ignore queerness in the game. that lady tells you to leave so she can bone her gf in YOUR camp 😭
like i get it if he’s been zombified but he can’t start the rite at all if astarion is helped down from his place in the ritual….why you leave that white boy up there 😭😭😭
every day i log on. all i see is antiblackness directed towards wyll. the adultification of a 17 YEAR OLD (a CHILD to most of us) and his actions at that age is violently antiblack rhetoric—and it shows in how you all speak on him as the second youngest companion in the game.
my hot take: i don’t like when people use sebastian as proof of attraction (or any purpose other than narratively being a voice of the victimized spawns) when talking about astarion. you are using something a sex worker (slave) did in survival mode as evidence of what they like
@TimeIsAfterUs
u clearly didn’t get it bc ur yt 😭 like both albums heavily explore themes of blackness, lemonade in terms of her marriage and heritage and renaissance in terms of black queerness luv
this is beyond favoritism i wish you guys would stop saying that. it’s fucking racism. it’s structural, embedded racism that favors the yt characters. it’s the studio *and* y’all who also treat wyll like an object. like ppl are clearly discontent and they don’t say ANYTHING
@peachcrisis
all this aside i’m sorry but idk why you’d put makeup in a place that is closed, sweaty, and rubs together often which generates bacteria. that feels like a rash or pimple incoming. especially if you shave regularly…
i really dgaf if you’re a puppy girl he is NOT you and you’re not black. “crazy that a black character doesn’t want to be degraded as a person by someone who owns him” he should dogwalk you for that!
larian it’s black history month ik ur a european company but if i don’t see substantial wyll content in this patch im going to have to have a talk with you like personally i may get a little mean and unkind just so u know
since someone brought it up (‼️) time and time again i will say: tattooing astarion’s scar is not smart. it is a brand. a slave brand. there are histories behind branding slaves with a mark of an owner/regime but especially wrt chattel slavery. you can try to argue but idgaf
ok since im being annoying about wyll... can i just say that its always been REALLY fucking weird to me how they walked face first into the trope of "black man turns into non human" and stays that way for the majority of the game/movie/etc? is that a reach? i dont think it is.
oomfie happened to watch me play through astarion’s first romance scene and yelled “OH MY GYATT” loud as shit when Nissa walked across the screen IJBOLLLL????????
@escuisi
highkey beginning to understand why her fans are the way they are but i have not heard anything good abt this lady and i definitely see why they changed stuff after she keeled over and died 😭😭
it breaks my heart how absolutely flat he is at times. like a placeholder. ik it’s a belgian company but i honestly fully hoped the most romantic character would at least be centered in this kiss release shit and hopefully get more to his LACKING romance/content
ok guys i’ll admit it. ion like halsin that much bc people always replacing wyll with him, ESPECIALLY in merch. like okay another yt guy on the team…..why????? the man with as much character as a sheet of white paper? call that flat stanley
@ghoulbrainz
it was crazy to learn that she was the eight child of a wealthy patriar family (octavia means “eighth”) so he and her bonded over mutual neglect from their parents. it was actually for her sake he wanted immortality 😭😭 man this shit always makes me cry
i think this person objectively wrong but in a sense i find it crazy when *some* ppl quote shit like this with oh you people wouldn’t survive *xyz film made 45 years ago that was just sexual assault of the actors/actresses involved* lol
mods vs no mods discussions are annoying tbh bc like yeah of course your skinny yt self doesn’t need to mod the game…my tavs are fat and black i had to learn amateur use of blender to make a character look how i wanted 💀
tbh this is why i kinda don’t like that the company acts like sex and nsfw is the main draw of the game as if you fighting for ur life for tastefully angled nudity, a bit of grinding, and a long kiss. what happened to saving the world. i really enjoy the killing part
@NogMoonzzi
my simple answer is that a white person using antiblack violence as a vehicle of self-discovery for a white character is a major turn off to me as a Black person. especially if a character is meant to be “horrible” yet sympathetic or relatable in a sense
and i don’t mean that in a “purity discourse” way. don’t even try. i genuinely see a lot of sentiments that make me question what people consider p0rn in games is…like there’s no working boob physics
@thedigitaldash_
i’m pretty sure (don’t quote me on this lol) the cigarette thing had to do with the hayes code and depicting sex onscreen. so like the cigarette was part of the way to imply it happened without showing much and it just became a culture thing 😭
bg3 you’ll never be a REAL horndog dating sim. why can’t i see tentacles in my [redacted] and [redacted] and it sound like mac n cheese? why is the only poly options two white dudes or a yt woman and a yt guy do u know how terrifying that is for me
i’ve just been watching this but i wanna say ppl who talked about being suspicious of someone “crying on camera” just to feel vindicated by the ex speaking up….i don’t trust your “senses.” now the internet mocking a woman who clearly is being harassed and smeared by this man
yet another man causing a witch hunt against a woman that was groomed then abused by a rich man. & now he is trying to destroy and smear her because she left him.
if you wanna talk about “historical accuracy” why aren’t the rich folk of Bg3 fatter with access to a plentiful diet full of sweets and bread and beer everyone is a willowy stick or shredded. fuck off you don’t even know what you’re talking about 😭😭
i can’t believe if you romance halsin he gets pregnant but is too scared to admit it so he just leaves you at the end of the game. like wtf? and then he comes back in the epilogue telling you he had the babies PLURAL??? what do you mean i’m a parent to 426 kids??
i think the taste of fresh blood for the first time is overwhelming to him. i think his body rejects it, so he struggles to keep it down. i think he wears clothes that fills out his figure so he doesn’t look so obviously and wretchedly inhuman
like how else to send a message to Black ppl that we aren’t a priority. but they’ll change even the smallest things that nobody rly asked for or narratively does nothing. ppl have been asking since release. at least TALK to us. they comment on every little horny post or meme!!!
@mageofancunin
i’ve always seen his cry as a cathartic sense of relief. i do think grief is a part of this, as he’s of course grieving what he’s lost at the hands of a monster, but the moment cazador died he had his first real breath of freedom. he’s alive for the first time in 2 centuries 🫶🏾
i just feel like sex isn’t enough sometimes we should be able to gnaw and chew and really savor the flavors of our lovers without the legal ramifications that it might cause
enough discourse we should be talking about how the characters that seek to harm, fetishize, or capture astarion in the narrative of bg3 are all minorities/people of color ✋🏾🙂↕️
@Riparian_Reids
this game is so queer cishet dudes literally kill off one of the main companions bc he’s a fem vamp. like that’s technically avoiding queerness but it’s depriving yourself of hours of content by doing so
this started with a discussion in a Black gc about merchandise and wyll. people were showing merch that didn’t include wyll or had him on a second page, while halsin was in his place. we were complaining about the sheer antiblackness of this action and i brought it here. (1/)
peasants can be fat. many people are fat due to a diet borne of food insufficiency and poverty. also they def drank more alcohol than water a bunch of ppl should have a beer belly me thinks. adventurers can be whatever tf you want it’s literally not real you can fly dumbass
@afrodykee
i always hold my tongue when this femmephobia discussion comes up on the white side bc they never actually seem to discuss the way yt gays think being a femme is being a caricature of black (trans) women/femmes
imo shadowheart *should* be muscular. all these men have abs and 2 don’t even have jobs that NEED working out but she doesn’t??? 40 years of intense training??? you’re SHITTING MEEEE you’re literally lying to my face 😭😭
and people get mad at Black fans for bringing it up, as if we wouldn’t know our history better than most—kids are still taught that the civil war was “states’ rights,” and there are slave owners with monuments dedicated to them across the nation, even displayed at state capitols
a lot of ppl’s responses are smtn along the lines of rep being a bunch of random npcs but like can you honestly point to alive het couples in the game as easily as the gay ones? maybe it’s gay brain but all i can think of is bex, derryth, and oskar’s annoying ass and that’s…
i said this, which was a) a bit facetious and b) MOSTLY about racism towards wyll and shifting him out of the spotlight when he’s a main character. I blamed the COMMUNITY for passive racism, not just Halsin or his fans. he was the vehicle for my explanation. (2/)
ok guys i’ll admit it. ion like halsin that much bc people always replacing wyll with him, ESPECIALLY in merch. like okay another yt guy on the team…..why????? the man with as much character as a sheet of white paper? call that flat stanley
ppl keep commenting about whether these women commit violence but that’s not even the point, bc i know many justify or condone violence against marginalized groups they don’t like. you don’t have to shoot people to be a fascist lol
at worst it is another tile in the consistent pattern of negligence towards Black characters in gaming. like he’s just gonna be left like this? and everyone is okay with that? ok.