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Dunno how much time I’ll spend there (although if Twitter continues to get worse by the day, chances are that quite a bit), but I’m now also at .
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Stuff like this only makes me even more convinced that Wittig was right, and lesbians aren't the same gender as straight women.
why isn’t my straight male friend allowed in the lesbian bar?? omg these MEAN lesbians and their boundaries … i said he was with me so that’s fine (as a straight woman!!)
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The reason lesbians are angry about the societal fixation on lesbians having sex with men is because this fixation is the basis of the corrective violence wielded against us. You're not a transgressive revolutionary by saying “lesbians can have sex with men”, you're this person:
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@lisaquestions
My first thought was ‘what's the point? nobody is going to believe that these apologies are real’, but then I've realised that the real point is a show of power, so that people know they'll have to face legal action for speaking against her.
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@benjanun_s
“I am bi, but I cannot see myself dating a woman, and will also aggressively gender my partner (who is clearly going through some sort of trans awakening) as a man, as well as sum this up as a kink thing. Please sympathise with me.”
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@notherEmily
@benjanun_s
Meanwhile, a lesbian perspective on us from the seventies: ‘I think that to be male and become female and love women is the greatest expression of true lesbianism there is. She could have stayed male and loved women without society telling her that she was wrong.’
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If you're fearmongering about the potential future of trans men being left homeless because of men in general not being welcome in lesbian spaces, while at the same time ignoring the very present phenomenon of AFAB-only housing discrimination, you're just a transmisogynist.
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@KrystalWolfyAlt
@lisaquestions
Fake, the real one would obviously ask what genitals you've had at birth.
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Yes, I'm an abolitionist, but we do not in fact have to start the abolition from the sexual abusers.
What we can and should do however is treat as deeply suspicious those who come out as some version of an abolitionist only in the context of men and boys committing sexual abuse.
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@SlainUnikorn
Rena's tweet took off a bit and now I feel guilty about not including alt text in my reply. Well, here's a pic with the alt text included:
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@drobotemilia
Prawda jest też taka, że wraz z postępującą emancypacją coraz więcej z nas nie musi i nie godzi się na bullshit mężczyzn.
Mąż nie jest konieczny do przetrwania, więc kobiety mają standardy. Fakt że odpowiedzią mężczyzn jest wzmacnianie patriarchalnej opresji mówi bardzo wiele.
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Telling this to a lesbian is extremely homophobic and honestly it's wild that people have to still be reminded of it in the year five thousand seven hundred and eighty four.
You're just mad because you don't have a loving husband lol
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The QRTs here are showing that liberal “choice” feminism has fried people's brains.
A guy literally imagines a power fantasy where he has a trophy wife with no personality, passively accompanying him when he engages his interests and they're like “what if she likes it though?”
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It's really telling how this is the only instance this person has tweeted about trans women.
Dredging up a trans woman's intense trauma of being in the closet in order to preserve the reputation of cishet men is abominable. We are not men, and we are not your tokens. Fuck off.
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@bloomfilters
Agreed, although I'm furious that this argument even has to be made. ‘Don't appropriate Black people's work’ should really be enough. 😬
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PSA: If you misgender someone, the correct reaction is to apologise, correct, and move on. Not to lie, and repeat the offence (“their profile”).
You're not even hiding at this point that you're a transmisogynist, and consider us beneath you.
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@thetranshijabi
“Love” all the white non-Muslims splaining to you how Iran Is Bad, Actually™. 😑
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@jjhale78
@JessPected
If you're not like this, why are you here, having a go at Jess, instead of holding the guys like the one in the screencap accountable? There's plenty of them, and they're the problem, not the feminists.
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Every heterosexual marriage is potentially a lesbian marriage, because you can't know if the husband isn't a closeted trans woman.
… Am I doing the Twitter Discourse™ correctly?
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@benjanun_s
Honestly, I find the suggestion that lesbians would prefer to write about men, and not, you know, about ourselves, pretty insulting.
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@Imani_Barbarin
It's incredible how they act as if being vegan is a characteristic because of which they're oppressed. Meanwhile what they do is the oldest trick in the world – white person invoking the image of an Angry Black Woman in order to gather sympathy and turn people against her.
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@KittyOnKomputer
@epistemophagy
Jars are one thing, but I literally wasn’t able to open a concealer yesterday and had to get help from a cis gal lol.
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“Womanhood leaves a dent forever. We've been raised to do better.”
Ah, I see, we are now pretending that trans mascs here weren't going around and screaming a few months ago how it's not as bad when it's a trans woman who gets raped.
@shayisaway
Because we understand what it's like and trans men know what it's like as they've lived this life for decades. Womanhood leaves a dent forever. We've been raised to do better. "Boys will be boys" have been told to kid boys.
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This tweet is correct and, and at the same time, the number of people in the replies using it to say how so many transfems are racists (75% of those on Twitter according to one man) is disturbing as well.
Just another example that transmisogynists simply can't stop themselves.
why are we "estrogen couldve saved her"-ing a writer whose racism ran so deep that even his own contemporaries in the 1920s were disturbed by it
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Why is it always “some men are lesbians”, and not “politically single women are lesbians”, “asexual women are lesbians” “runaway wives are lesbians”, or even “religious nuns are lesbians”?
It's almost as if this radical inclusivity only goes one way.
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Harassing Black people who express frustration that their GFMs do worse than those of ⚪️ people is racist. Full stop.
It's fine to GFM a luxury. It's racist to go after Black people venting how their survival needs remain unmet, while ⚪️ people are able get money for luxuries.
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@StacyCaySlays
If this is subtweeting what I think it is, then implying that Black trans people have any power to ‘police’ us is really not it.
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@two_n_minus_one
‘Unearned confidence’. We literally go through hell to learn how to be confident. It's a trial by fire, there's nothing more earned than a trans woman's confidence.
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You're a cוs man trying to speak over a trans woman who's writing actual transfeminist theory, and lecture her about feminism. It's textbook misogyny and mansplaining.
This is not your lane, sit down.
Me when I'm in a "misunderstanding the need for an intersectionally supportive queer community and developing an elitist mindset out of fear for the oppression touching me specifically" competition and my opponent is a terminally online queer person.
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@stephsgaylair
@TouchMyTeapot
This isn’t even about etiquette. I couldn’t care less if people are nice to transphobes. We don’t have to be polite towards those who want to eliminate us.
This is about not doing misogyny. There’s a difference between being rude and being bigoted. Bigotry is never okay.
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@HalimedeMF
Ask not whether trans women make you feel safer – ask whether you make trans women feel safer.
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Yeah, trans MRAs staying away from the community is the best solution for everyone, I'll agree on this one.
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@MsRosaPalma1
@AidanCTweets
@OrMichaely1
@jk_rowling
Emma Nicholson’s homophobia is nothing new. Lesbians were protesting her as far back as the 90s. The Lesbian Avengers protest on her lawn is actually famous.
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@Aliceinwunderl3
The jump from “you're transvestigating him” (not true, but w/e) to “trans women are genocidal settlers” is… truly something.
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@benjanun_s
I'm convinced at least half of the reason these wannabe patriarchs hate “birthday boy” so much is because it lacks gravitas, and they can't stand being ridiculed by women.
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@della_morte_
It’s one thing to grow up as a white folk in a racist culture and have a lot of racism to unpack and unlearn. That’s most if not all of us who are white. It’s quite another to be an avowed white supremacist. It’s not hard to not be a Nazi.
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@Flowin_Free8
No, and I’ll say more – even if I could be a cis woman, I wouldn’t want to. Being trans is great and I’m happy with it.
The only thing I’d like is a better society.
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@sxwrkr_
I highly recommend “The Straight Mind and other essays” by Monique Wittig. It's old, but it still holds up very well. If you want to get an overall feel before picking up a book, Talia has an excellent thread where she comments on particular excerpts:
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@aletheia327
This is a hot take, but it reminds me of the Great Replacement anxiety, in that both are fears of something that isn't going to happen, but it would be cool if it did.
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@AlexPetrovnia
They will be applied primarily against transfem folks. People in general don’t bat an eye when a person they perceive as a woman wears jeans and a shirt, but “a man in a dress” is a transmisogynous figure that is still well alive and used to demonise us.
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That’s a ‘lesbian ally’ friend of JK and a member of the House of Lords, denying the existence of homophobia. As we can see, the wizard lady is sure keeping a great company. 🙄
Mallory,’Homo’ means ‘Man’.Are you sure you’ve got your facts right? Homophobia means ‘fear of man’,while I declare that lesbians are indisputably Women.I’m perfectly happy with either Men or Women.I don’t have the deep concerns that you seem to on their private and family life.
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@KatyMontgomerie
Agreed, though it bothers me that people react only when it affects cis girls. Trans girls are affected by this a lot more and most of cis people don't care even a little bit.
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@maidensblade
Centring men. Men will almost always take central roles, and when they don't, even when the characters are mostly female, the women's lives tend to revolve around one man or another anyway.
It's exhausting.
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@leniwalewaczka
Ktoś by powiedział że problemem jest sam fakt tego że mężczyźni *wymagają* aktów seksualnych od swoich żon, ale to pewnie za mało katolicka konkluzja. 💀
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Okay, this kinda took off a bit. It's Black History Month, please help a Black trans woman if you can.
hey it’s black history month so if you feel like donating to support a black southern trans woman go ahead and donate and share 🥺
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Meanwhile, actual lesbians, not having time to think about men because we're busy with the important stuff:
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@benjanun_s
It's a very telling as well that Utena says here that Anthy needs her, not admitting (neither to Touga, nor to herself) that she really needs Anthy too. She's still in her comphet mode.
The silver lining is that at least in this regard, Suletta seems to more perceptive.
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@RealDJCthulhu
I may be reading too much into that but saying that the Doctor’s companion is specifically a ‘woman’s role’ seems a tad misogynous.
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@benjanun_s
This a day after a prominent British trans man wrote about how he had a nice and polite talk with Maya Forstater out of all people?
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@lisaquestions
@bloomfilters
“I'm a man and a socially devalued work has been deemed by others to be unsuitable for me. Why are people not noticing my oppression??”
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This is absolutely true, and Talia is right that this is taught from the earliest moments. I have about 30 years of experiencing this, and the earliest example I can remember was in fucking KINDERGARTEN, with boys very clearly treating girls as toys to play with, not peers.
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@refdeskfacepalm
@penguinoahora
@transscribe
No, this isn't about forcing ‘likes’ on anybody. This is about using physical and financial violence in order to control another person.
It has literally nothing to do with kink.
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@ButNotTheCity
Even if for some reason a year of weekly meetings was necessary (which I highly doubt, as she admits it was a ‘straightforward’ case), why not prescribe blockers for the duration of this diagnosis period?
I fail to see any reason for this except cruelty.
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@aletheia327
Yikes. Despite the leftist wrapping, this quoted take is incredibly West-centric. It's basically claiming that women and people of other marginalised genders from outside the imperial core don't need liberation from the local men who claim dominion over them.
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@AidanTheJester
Yeah, wanting to be asked about pronouns is not unreasonable in any conceivable way.
Only thing I wish is for ppl to be consistent. Either ask everyone or don't ask anybody. Asking only ppl who ‘look trans’ serves only to other us by communicating you've clocked us.
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@Rav3nsN3st96
@gothic_whorror
“Racism does not have direct repercussions on the members of the community” says someone from the country which produced Il Duce, and is now ruled by his ideological successors.
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What this guy in the screencap is doing is classic bioessentialism in service of obscuring patriarchy.
Underlying this rant is a conviction that what gives men power over women isn't social hierarchy but biological advantage (being larger). This is naturalising patriarchy.
the whole bar thing wasn’t even about this kinda situation anyway but it should go without saying that even 6’4 trans women are entitled to sexual boundaries and being afraid of men… yes that includes short trans men.
i fucking hate it here sometimes, i really do
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@WiwatRewolucja
@ManiaWillim
„Nie mam nic wspólnego z homofobią”, a w następnym tweecie 🙃:
@otwarty_uni
@PankiewiczJulia
Ja się tylko brzydzę homosiami, nie boję się, bo to są przeważnie grzeczni, mili ludzie którzy mają tylko chuje w głowie, nieszkodliwi... No ale powstawanie klinik i danie możliwości zagubionym dzieciom na zmianę płci to jest już większy problem...
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@maisieccino
Just reading this assessment makes me nauseous. It's like they're describing a specimen in a zoo, instead of referring a patient for further treatment. 🤢
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@coriposting
@Katrafiy
They don't have to, because “third gender” is an anthropological concept, and nobody does anthropology on Western people, since the discipline is fundamentally racist, and founded on the assumption of Western civilisational superiority.
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I will say it: these guys are no different from GC men to me. Both groups of men performatively associate with some women for the purpose of laundering their violent misogyny. They don't care one bit about women or feminism, they just want approval for their abusive behaviour.
begging men to understand that being a misogyist to terfs is neither feminist nor helpful
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Six ships out of the top 100 are F/F, the vast majority are M/M, another year in a row.
And yet people will continue to claim that there's no misogyny in the fandom spaces, it's all just a fluke.
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@pearshapes
@_nyancrimew
Swiss federal constitution forbids the extradition of citizens without their consent.
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@aletheia327
Ladie Labrys manages to get even more unhinged than her usual fare, I see. 💀
Honestly, anyone who sees this and then claims that this is not an abusive cult has no leg to stand on.
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I'm dying. Cis people will look at these stats and come to literally any conclusion that isn't “hire more trans people”. That's a bridge too far for them.
Equally telling is avoidance of even saying “trans women” and “trans men”, instead treating us as some third gender. 💀
Publishing industry demographics survey; this is for people in publishing roles (editors, agents, etc), not writers. Oh it's cooked cooked.
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@Disastrid_Zone
@lisaquestions
It's also just factually untrue. Even if you submit to the medical authorities on the question of who is trans and who is not (which, to be clear, you shouldn't do), the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria in DSM-5 do not mention crossdressing at all.
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@sempiternalsap
@metaironichumor
@ManaCalz
So… you're basically saying it's reactionary because of *intentions* (“motivated by”, “wants to”) you're ascribing to them?
Good to know that you've decided to drop materialism in favour of psychoanalysis, that's definitely not reactionary.
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@HalimedeMF
Not to rain on your parade, Halimede, but “pre”-op implies that the op will be happening in the future. 😊
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Really depressing how even a lot of self-described feminists doesn't really want to liberate women from the patriarchy. They're fine with the exploitation of women's labour and structural power imbalances, as long as there's formally a “choice”.
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This is especially curious since these “safe online spaces” are generally full of misogyny as well.
It's almost like a lot of people don't and don't want to see misogyny at all.
i think some of you spend so much time in your safe online spaces that you forget misogyny is still incredibly rampant quite literally everywhere. hm i wonder why women don't like it when they get erased by men
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Talia hits the mark, as usual.
I would add that while I get the caution coming from experiencing the transmedicalist ideology, today's Validity-Industrial Complex is the same reactionary tendency using different means. The goal is still to discourage us from medical transition.
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@Pacosaurus_Rex1
@BMunise
@wigglyyyworm
If you think that there are things for which people should be put in prison and essentially put to slave labour (because that's what a compulsory work for almost nothing is), you're not an abolitionist.
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@the_jaegerist1
Calling out a homophobe who's doing a more polite version of “you're angry because you're not getting dick” isn't “excluding trans men”, and if you are going to carry water for these people then any claim to community with lesbians you might otherwise have becomes just laughable.
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@AllStatesAreBad
@EmRoseDeLeon
It's wild that this is described as speaking “very badly”. Complaining about Poland is basically a Polish national sport, and these two are being very measured in their critique, compared to what Poles say lol.
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@benjanun_s
Weaponising transmisogyny to prove that the fandom doesn't have a misogyny problem.
Also, a transmasc person wanting no women in his fan fiction is definitely not misogyny, oh no, never, not even a little.
Plus, the bit about femininity is ridiculous, as if butches don't exist.
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“Bisexual lighting”, and it's literally half of Suletta being lit in Miorine's colour.
Media literacy is dead apparently.
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@simpbenrey
@wontgoon
Do you go around telling infertile cis women how privileged they are, or do you just hate trans women?
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