Francis Turretin
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That moment when a Calvinist tries to explain Romans 9:10-13 to you and you immediately respond with "is there unrighteousness with God?" Don't be the Objector of Romans 9:14
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Thanks for once again demonstrating that Calvinism leads to the same objections that Paul’s theology leads to.
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@catholicpat
People in the AD 30s who actually knew her:
Mark 6:3 (KJV)
Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
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@pastordmack
You've managed to align yourself with the candidate whose policies are the most detrimental to human flourishing, and particularly detrimental to the most vulnerable groups in our society. I encourage you to seek the Lord in prayer for greater wisdom in your priorities.
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I wonder how many "provisionists" think that this represents Christian maturity.
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@HwsEleutheroi
@TaylorRMarshall
He's willing to talk about Protestants, but not with them, apparently.
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There are basically two options:
1) Basham really thinks that
@NeilShenvi
suggests that summarizing pastors' comments is unacceptable; or
2) Basham is being dishonest in her characterization of Shenvi.
I think it's more charitable to assume (1) until proven otherwise. I admit,
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If only James White had written a book on the Trinity, called, "The Forgotten Trinity" (revised and updated 2019), but since apparently that would be too convenient, let's go with something he said off the cuff in response to a Oneness guy he was debating.
@HwsEleutheroi
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So, naturally, he joined a church that claims to be the one true church, to be headed by a single human as the earthly head, and to have a succession of apostles, while denying Sola Scriptura, and excusing all the immorality of previous alleged successors.
#sadirony
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When someone doesn't get you (or more specifically doesn't understand compatibilism), Valentine's Day Edition:
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The belief that God’s grace is not required before fallen human beings can respond positively to the gospel (namely that such a positive response is within man’s natural God-given ability) is well labeled as Semi-Pelagian.
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@Pastor_Gabe
You’re talking about the one who appointed justices who overturned Roe v, Wade, right?
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It must be hard for
@Soteriology101
and
@ProvisionistP
to read through Genesis 15 and discover that God's plan for Abraham includes multiple generations of his descendants in slavery in Egypt with the explanation of timing: "for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full."
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Arminians get it half right and half wrong. We correct the half they get wrong, you reject the half they get right. We are not the same, even though we both aren’t Arminians,
@Soteriology101
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God’s love is a central element of Reformed theology, and is more elevated in RT than in other views. If you were in a church and you believed that God is heartless, you were confused, not Reformed. Your church may have been reformed, but you were not.
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As
@Soteriology101
has decided to enlist ChatGPT in support of the uneducated misuse of "responsible" as meaning "able to respond," I offer the following rebuttal from ChatGPT:
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If we delete “the ontological nature of,” that’s the error condemned by the Second Council of Orange. Does specifying “the ontological nature of” avoid the error?
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@Soteriology101
The reason why faith gets a sola is because it alone is the instrumental means of justification. Neither our faith nor our obedience is the ground of our justification. This is a fundamental tenet of classical Protestant soteriology.
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@TalbertSwan
Heaven has God. The people in heaven will be former sinners from every people group. Focus on Christ and love his church.
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"Dynamic Omniscience is Heresy" is the thesis of a debate I'm scheduling for June 2024, God willing. It will be my first time debating this important topic.
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Going live in about 1/2 an hour to debate: "Is the King James Bible Free From All Errors?" (Nick Sayers says yes, and TurretinFan says no), hosted by Standing for Truth
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No, the accurate label of "Semi-Pelagian," is not an argument. An argument justifying the label doesn't need to rely on the asserted assumption. And I will the reader judge whether "couldn't care less" is true, given the laughable attempted comeback of "semi-gnostic."
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@HwsEleutheroi
@The_Kyle_Mann
1 Cor 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
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Tell me that everything you know about "Calvinism" comes from
@Soteriology101
(or similar sources) without telling me ...
And no, that's not what Calvinism teaches.
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People wrongly assume that
@HwsEleutheroi
throws the baby of the two natures of Christ with the scholastic bathwater. Instead, my friend James grounds the two natures in one person in Scripture, as he ought (from "The Forgotten Trinity"):
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Affirm God's absolutely certain and infallible knowledge of the future, even if you don't know how God knows it.
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It’s nice to see that I correctly guessed the motivation behind the behavior!
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God’s love doesn’t just make provision, it actively seeks and saves the lost. Amen to the quotation.
“God’s love is a central element of Reformed theology, and is more elevated in RT than in other views.”
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@dragodimitrov
We protect the honor of Jesus’ mother against the calumny that she was not a full wife to Joseph, as God commanded.
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The Gospel itself apart from faith is not enough. Hebrews 4:2 …. the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
This is why the Holy Spirit graciously gives faith (Philippians 1:29&Ephesians 2:8) Semi-Pelagianism is unbiblical.
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@shawnRwillson
@CCalvinism
@Soteriology101
Come on. Leighton’s “responsibility = able to respond” is idiotic and deserves mockery. It’s not a “valid Christian view,” it’s an etymological fallacy teamed up with an equivocation fallacy. It’s been pointed out to him many times and he still doesn’t get it.
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Tell me you conflate Fatalism and Calvinism without telling me ...
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Leighton, aka
@soteriology101
, may not agree with every position I take, but you can see the difference between him and someone who isn't him:
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🙄 The whole of Clement’s writings that we have is 1 Clement, if that. God willing in an episode in the near future, I’ll read through the letter and demonstrate the author of 1 Clement’s understanding of election.
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Whoever sins is blameworthy. Romans 6:23 “the wages of sin is death” Everyone is blameworthy unless and until God has mercy on them.
@Soteriology101
#Hamartiology101
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Glad you asked. 1 Corinthians 4:7 (KJV)
For who maketh thee to differ [from another]? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive [it], why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received [it]?
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The bride of Christ is the church (Eph 5:23-32), the new Jerusalem (Rev 21:9-27), of which Mary is one member (Acts 1:14).
Christ is King.
That means Mary is Queen.
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@HwsEleutheroi
@AominOrg
@phrenic
The Chalcedonian definition is right and demands our acceptance because it is a summary or distillation of Biblical teaching, not because Chalcedon said it, nor because it was widely adopted thereafter. Scripture alone is our final authority, because it is the very Word of God.
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Remember that if you try to get in a last word before you block me, I’m going to miss out on your insights. 🧐
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@HwsEleutheroi
@Soteriology101
They don’t understand the sinfulness of sin, or the depravity of fallen man. They unwittingly detract from the love of God. They should meditate on Ephesians 2:4-7 with their attention on what God’s love accomplishes for those on whom His face shines.
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@TaylorRMarshall
By contrast, “Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.” Matthew 1:20
&
“And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.” Matthew 1:25
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“I am become
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Meanwhile, there is *exactly the same* historical support for the Immaculate Conception and Bodily Assumption as for the supposed Pre-Columbian history of religion in North America found in the Book of Mormon, namely none at all.
#deepinfauxhistory
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I have a debate on Purgatory coming up on August 26, 2024. That's four days from now. Expect some Purgatory-related content from me leading up to that time.
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@The_Idol_Killer
We both know that your characterization of the question is misleading at best. Repent of the deeds of the devil and trust in the infinite, eternal, and immutable God.
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It is bizarre that this has to be said, but since apparently people have been claiming otherwise…
@DerekVester
Dr. White does NOT hold to kenoticism, and any fair minded person knows it.
I wrote this many years before the current controversy erupted:
You will notice that it says almost exactly what was said by Mike Riccardi in his recent tweet thread. You will
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Just a quick congratulations to literally everyone on Twitter on their recent acquisition of expertise on epidemiology. And you know it’s solid expertise, because if you disagree, you’re not just stupid but also evil.
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Hillary unwittingly campaigning for the party of life.
A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for a national abortion ban. Pass it on.
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When you are so bent on trying to attack Calvinism that you deny omniscience:
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"Dynamic Omniscience is Heresy" is the resolution of tonight's debate. It will start in about half an hour, God willing:
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I want to make sure that Derek Vester
@Derekvester
and Mitchell Wygant
@MWMDCLXXVII
see the highlighted part:
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@Soteriology101
Your issue isn’t with Calvinism itself:
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think [of himself] more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. (Rom 12:3)
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Apologists for Roman Catholicism. Is Cardinal Fernandez's Fiducia Supplicans something that demands the submission of the faithful?
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This is an example of a
#Pelagian
error. Cf.
#Scripture
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: …
Matt 16:17 … Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
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@Soteriology101
No. Also, see this ChatGPT explanation that should serve as a corrective to your oft-repeated (despite oft-corrected) error:
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@ackerman1517
They need to learn the concept of an internal critique. When you say, "Your theology teaches that ..." what follows should be something that the critiqued person recognizes as their own theological teaching.
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@ProvisionistP
That’s not unique to Calvinism. That’s true of every position that says God is omnipotent and interested, including non-Calvinistic positions like that of William Craig. It is, however, one of the strengths of those positions over positions that try to portray the omnipotent God
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God willing, I will be debating Will Kinney about King James Version issues on Standing for Truth starting around 8 pm (Eastern):
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@wichman_matthew
One obvious difference, I didn't create the label.
Another obvious one, the label "semi-gnostic" has very low correspondence to reality.
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God willing, I will be debating the Immaculate Conception in about 6 hours. I will post a link to the live debate closer to the start time.
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Facebook is down, but brick and mortar libraries are open and provide faceless books for your reading pleasure.
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@Soteriology101
@ApologiaStudios
In what way, exactly, do you affirm original sin? It’s not enough to just be able to say the words, “original sin,” as I’m sure you would acknowledge. Do you confess with the Apostle and with us that all sinned in Adam?
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Two thoughts:
1) Tridentine RC views are the same as KJVO and “Confessional” text views just with a different base text; and
2) I’m always suspicious of people who claim to know Satan’s agenda. Even if Satan himself told me his agenda I wouldn’t believe him.
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I have so much to say about the Chris Fisher vs. Matt Slick debate. Glad it was Matt, not me, defending Christian orthodoxy in that particular debate.
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The reason why faith gets a sola is because it alone is the instrumental means of justification. Neither our faith nor our obedience is the ground of our justification. This is a fundamental tenet of classical Protestant soteriology.
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@TaylorRMarshall
Protestants love this verse because it authorizes them to interpret Paul’s epistles and to hold fast to them. Meanwhile when was the last bishop of Rome that was the husband of one wife, 1 Timothy 3:2? It’s one thing to say “tradition” and another to hold fast to it!
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This attempt fell flat on its face:
“50% of his YT videos have my face or name in them. One out of every two.”
Let’s fact check this shall we?
These are 39 most recent thumbnails. How many can you count with James White’s face or name?
@HwsEleutheroi
is not living in reality.
(And neither are those who think
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Assuming the way you ask your friends on Earth for prayer is
* in the middle of a prayer to God
* with heaps of adoration that would make an archangel blush
* in a language they don’t speak
* when they are completely unresponsive
Then yeah, exactly like that.
Asking Mary and the saints to pray for you is no different than asking your friends and family here on earth to pray for you.
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@ProvisionistP
It’s one thing to mock God’s servants, but be wary of mocking the one true God.
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@rcsprouljr
The founding fathers (in the third Congress) passed the Act Relative to a Quarantine (1796). Apparently their interpretation of the document they wrote wasn’t the same as yours. They came from colonies that had already had such laws for a century. Libertarians they were not.
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@IrrTruth
In this case, it’s even worse. Even Provisionists don’t claim that bullets have free will. This extends to denying the fact that God controls the forces of nature. Even the winds and the seas obey him.
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@ProvisionistP
Despite the strength that all caps gives your argument, what’s the alternative? You either have an omnipotent God who has a morally sufficient reason for everything that transpires or you have what? Lack or Care, Lack of Power, Conflicting Priorities? There is not some better
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Provisionist, is this who you worship today?
- I form the light, and
- [I] create darkness:
- I make peace, and
- [I] create evil:
- I the LORD do *all* these things.
(Isaiah 45:7)
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@Soteriology101
Understood. The problem is with your notion that freedom is only meaningful if God is not in control. Scripture teaches the opposite.
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Debate Review: James White vs. Leighton Flowers on John 6:44
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@The_Idol_Killer
@uncommonsens3
Indeed, why evade a direct question while shedding crocodile tears about “straw men.” You are an open theist, and I am classical theist. We worship different deities, and only one of them is the God. Why pretend otherwise?
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Responding to Nick Sayers Regarding Revelation 16:5, Part 8 of ?
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@ADRoblesMedia
He's comparing the Holocaust to Israel's self-defense. You don't understand why that's problematic on numerous levels?
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