“Irenaeus, Augustine, and Thomas do not belong exclusively to Rome; they are Fathers and Doctors to whom the whole Christian church has obligations.”
Herman Bavinck, 1895
@markolivero121
An interesting calculation
In Jeffrey Johnson's book 'The Failure of Natural Theology,' he quotes 1 Bible verse every 1,536 words.
Dolezal 1 every 442 words
Aquinas's ST 1 every 416 words
Grudem 1 every 66 words
WLC 1 every 4 words
By TO's standard, Johnson is the worst.
"There were in Christ two kinds of understanding: a divine understanding whereby he knew all things, Jo. 21:17, and a human, whereby he did not yet know some things, Mark 13:32."
William Ames The Marrow of True Theology, 131
Yesterday, I did not realize that Jeffrey Johnson cited Thomas's replies to the objections, including the one I posted. In light of this, I have deleted the post.
To
@1689Jeffrey
, I sincerely apologize. I did not intend to misrepresent you or mislead others.
"A divine person is nothing but the divine essence under a particular relational aspect." Adonis Vidu The Same God Works All Things
"This is what happens when you take an external philosophical source. You make it your ultimate authority and squeeze the Scripture into it."
This book is an excellent introduction to the Doctrine of God. Though accessible, it does not sacrifice the precision of classical language and grammar. Well done,
@DrDanger1689
!
The Forgotten Attributes of God: God's Nature and Why it Matters
The attached screen shots come from a private conversation with a GBTS student. I have permission to share the conversation. He can identify himself if he so chooses. This is the outcome of the GBTS biblicist hermeneutic. I present them without further comment.
@GovAndyBeshear
57,466 cases since your July 10th mandate..
Seems like masks don't work.
But you will never mention the 56,507 patients who have recovered, will you?
Respectufully, your platitudes and posturing about caring for the Commonwealth, is meaningless.
Which writings?
@ostrachan
"you can become a Christian entirely through the use of reason. That's what Aquinas himself said very clearly in his writings."
R. T. M.: How would respond to the accusation that you're constantly misrepresenting Aquinas?
Owen: Uhh, uhh I don't know.
"..it's not that the Son did not know before his incarnation and would not know at his exaltation, but there was some reason why...it was profitable for the Messiah, the Son, to not know."
“Irenaeus, Augustine, and Thomas do not belong exclusively to Rome; they are Fathers and Doctors to whom the whole Christian church has obligations.”
Herman Bavinck, Forward to Reformed Dogmatics (1895)
New Episode! "Reformed Thomism(??)" w/James White
Ezra Institute Fellow Dr. James White joins us this week to talk about the Protestant fascination with Aquinas, and the path that leads from Thomism to Roman Catholicism.
🧵 The two natures united in the Person of the Son.
I believe James White misunderstands our position regarding Matthew 24:36. I am not aware of anyone who believes the human nature of Jesus spoke, rather the Son spoke according to his human nature.
@NathanNwanji
@_andy_herman
That is 100% false. For most of American history & UK history Baptists were theologically Arminian. You don’t know that. They were pretty anti-Calvinist. Never mind. You don’t even know Baptist history. Have a great day!
"Indeed the notion of God as simple, as him being pure act, and as thus being perfect in terms of having no potentiality, is an obvious point of continuity between Thomas and the Reformed."
Carl Trueman, The Oxford Handbook of the Reception of Aquinas, 212.
We're told there is a big difference between Aquinas and the Reformed regarding Natural Theology & Special Theology. Such that for Thomas, Natural Philosophy working with Natural Revelation is the foundation of Special Theology. Is this true?
Stephen Charnock does not agree.
"..it's not that the Son did not know before his incarnation and would not know at his exaltation, but there was some reason why...it was profitable for the Son, the Messiah, to not know."
Van Til hardly ever interacted with the biblical text. Bahnsen touched it here & there. Aquinas integrated his exegesis into his dogmatics through several volumes of biblical commentary.
Thomas seemed much more interested in the Bible.
Did you know Spurgeon read/benefitted from Roman Catholics? Spurgeon was not against reading Roman Catholics; as he matured, Spurgeon knew how to "eat the meat and spit the bones." This quote within my dissertation is found in the Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit vol. 47, pg. 85.
"And to deny it of any of them, is to deny their Divinity. And whereas Mr. Collier tells us, 𝑻𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒂𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑺𝒄𝒓𝒊𝒑𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆 𝒔𝒂𝒊𝒕𝒉, 𝒆𝒕𝒄. That is not enough..."
Nehemiah Coxe, Vindiciae Veritatis
In this divine and infinite Being there are three subsistences, the Father, the Word or Son, and Holy Spirit... distinguished by several peculiar relative properties and personal relations;
2LCF 2.3
@GovAndyBeshear
Their post isn't anti-semitic. They didn't compare vaccines to the Holocaust. They vilified vaccine passports.
Since when did we need a vaccine passport to exercise our Constitutional rights?
🧵 1.
@gbtseminary
@HwsEleutheroi
@ostrachan
I have reached out to Owen Strachan over the past 7 months asking him to substantiate with source material his false claims concerning Thomas Aquinas. A response by Owen has not been offered. See link below
👇
🧵What is the consensus concerning Thomas Aquinas? Some assert that if we adopt one aspect of his teachings, we must embrace the rest, right?
Or are there bones to spit out and meat to enjoy?
@AndyBeshearKY
"my wish is for everyone to find what provides them strength and happiness to help in the weeks to come."
Does it include the small business owners providing for their families whom you've shut down and fined?
Hi
@HwsEleutheroi
, I noticed you deleted your comment regarding
@1689Broadcast
's,
@billroach_
's, and my concern about a comment
@ostrachan
made in one of his podcasts. Is our concern no longer a "straw-man" as Owen has yet to amend or retract his statement?
"Hence it was necessary for the salvation of man that certain truths which exceed human reason should be made known to him by divine revelation."
Aquinas ST Q. 1 A.1 Respondeo
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John MacArthur makes an excellent observation about Natural Theology and its connection to Thomas Aquinas. In a sermon preached in 2011 titled: Saved by What? MacArthur states the following,
“Natural theology says that man, in his natural condition by natural means, (1/6)
@HwsEleutheroi
@HwsEleutheroi
But weren't you labeling others as,
Neo Scholastics
Mullerites
Hyper Confessional
Great Tradition Baptists
New Baptist Thomists
Salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone.
If you deny the Formal Principle (Scripture alone) of the Reformation it leads to a denial of the Material Principle (justification by faith alone).
This is a tragic mistake.
Ephesians 2:8-9
In Vindiciae Evangelicae, John Owen cites Aquinas SCG 1.14, Francisco Suarez Metph: Tom. 2 disp. 30 and Cajatan de Ente et Essentia ch. 2, to support his defense of Divine Simplicity against the Socinian Mr. Biddle.
Owen provides four reasons why God must be absolutely simple:
"4. The works of the Trinity are inseparable.
We do by no means separate from the Father, neither the Son nor yet the Holy Ghost either in the creation or in the government of all things, nor yet in anything which appertains to the substance of God."
Theodore Beza, 1565
"Chalcedon was perfectly Biblical...it recognized that will arises from those natures."
I guess affirming Chalcedon’s metaphysics wasn’t just an “interesting speculative question” in 2000.
Divine Simplicity.
Does God depend on what is not God to be God, as the crystal depends upon light?
Though it is an analogy that only goes so far, it can help us understand Divine Simplicity when understood properly.
Begins @ 1:18:47
"...to grant to man the autonomy that is absolutely necessary within Thomistic theology..."
Those familiar with Thomas Aquinas will find that
@HwsEleutheroi
's statement is not true and demonstrates a lack of familiarity with the primary source material.
*see the linked thread
"A divine person is nothing but the divine essence...subsisting in an especial manner"
"and yet all their actings, ad extra, being the actings of God, they are undivided, and are all the works of one, of the self same God."
John Owen, Doctrine of the Holy Trinity pg. 95
"All of this fuss about the doctrine of scripture in protestantism, to me conceding the simplicity of God, that is even more deadly"..."Historically, Richard [Muller] was absolutely correct.
🧵What is the consensus concerning Thomas Aquinas? Some assert that if we adopt one aspect of his teachings, we must embrace the rest, right?
Or are there bones to spit out and meat to enjoy?
Oliphint's and Van Til's views at best stand at the margin of what can be called Reformed and, at worst, create a kind of sectarian theology and philosophy that is out of accord with the older Reformed tradition and its confessions."
Richard Muller
@HwsEleutheroi
@billroach_
Owen Strachan said as much in his podcast @ the 13:38 mark:
"You can become a Christian entirely through the use of reason. That's what Aquinas himself said very clearly in his writings."
Where is the strawman?
"I and [my] Father", (esmen), "we are one"; that is, in nature and essence, and perfections, particularly in power; since Christ is speaking of the impossibility of plucking any of the sheep, out of his own and his Father's hands;
@GovAndyBeshear
54,348 patients have recovered.
If masks work, as you say, cases shouldn't increase.
But cases are increasing, therefore masks do not work.
Why mandate something that doesn't work?
"finding some of my favorite Puritans like John Owen were actually very positive toward Aquinas in defending the Classical doctrine of God against the Socinians."
James Dolezal
@GovAndyBeshear
B: ( 3 mos ago) We need a mask mandate.
Me: Why?
B: Cases are increasing.
Me: (3 mos later) Masks aren't working.
B: Why?
Me: Cases are increasing.
Don't forget: 32,528 recovered by Sep. 2nd.
Divine Simplicity.
Does God depend on what is not God to be God, as the crystal depends upon light?
Though it is an analogy that only goes so far, it can help us understand Divine Simplicity when understood properly.
Begins @ 1:18:47
The historical Thomistic and Reformed understanding of Divine Simplicity leads one to believe that in God, his attributes become one and are, therefore but one single attribute ad intra & ad extra.
Carl Trueman: When I look at the WCF ch. 2..it's impossible, is it not James, to read that without hearing the voice of Thomas Aquinas, the Angelic doctor in the background?
James Dolezal: Right. If you don't know the Angelic Doctor, then you don't know that's whose voice it is.
The relative properties must be the divine essence itself. For the relative properties are precisely the subsistent persons. But a person subsisting in the Godhead cannot be something other than the divine essence; and the divine essence is God himself...
Aquinas Comp. Theol. 66