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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
this weekend's spicy dish $7 million supplied in morpho is only secured by an EOA and available to rug by the "risk curator" all supporting exit liquidity for a stablecoin LST with a 4-year lock up the story of an unusually risky lending market
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
tbh that isn’t even the most egregious thing I’ve seen in defi lending world this weekend do we do another spicy Sunday write up?
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
We did it. Vitalik now knows about Aave. But he doesn’t think Aave does loans. So we are still early lol
@VitalikButerin
vitalik.eth
2 months
@Togbe0x @0xgunboats @llamaonthebrink Aave is good and I'm very grateful that it exists, but it doesn't offer you what almost any normie will have in mind if you tell them you are offering "loans". See this from 2020:
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
so the guy activist investooor his way to getting a fee switch on compound? and in the process exposed and embarrassed a bunch of professional delegates and a dead governance process? What am I missing lol
@0xngmi
0xngmi
3 months
looks like humpy and compound reached a truce - humpy will cancel proposal and drop the +500k in comp tokens - comp will share fees earned with with comp holders
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
Aave v3 fork on a new chain. What could go wrong?
@hyperlendx
HyperLend
3 months
Introducing our website, we invite you to set off your adventure with us -
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
6 months
"our users are responsible and will manage their own risks" the users:
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
Coindesk found out what was in the Uniswap Wells notice. SEC saying LP contracts are securities, Uni an unregistered exchange and the wallet/site a broker.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
1 month
have been touching grass and working on some big initiatives in your favorite DAOs but had to come back to laugh at the "risk curators" on Morpho who have hardcoded their cbBTC market oracle to the BTC / USD price Steakhouse, BA and Gauntlet are all clowns for this one
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
So to summarize Best case: MakerDAO has been paying through the nose for an arranger that’s giving them below market returns, with high fees and none of the required reporting. Worst case: gigantic hole in MakerDAO balance sheet. Neither of those seem great lol
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
have to hand it to @labsGFX they really in the governance arena trying things too bad all their sensible ideas get voted down right now they are working on offboarding Monetalis, one of MakerDAO's RWA custodians that never produces any reports
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
This how you know some people in DeFi don’t actually use DeFi There isn’t a profitable arbitrage here 1mo avg rates are the same and current morpho pool is at 90% utilization so any borrowing spikes your rate Not to mention massive difference in size, rate vol and security
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@SebVentures
Sébastien Derivaux
2 months
Analysis of borrowing costs of USDC against wstETH. You would assume rate arbitrage as you can (and should) move from one to the other easily. I don't expect everyone to do it but just 1-2 sophisticated whales would be enough. Why are they leaving money on the table?
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
@llamaonthebrink Vitalik: I’m worried about the ouroboros yield Also Vitalik: look at the annual rate you can get by betting on long tail events
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
Aave will soon have one of the largest restaking systems and the only one that insures actual value on chain so far.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
one reason $AAVE trades at such a discount is that a non trivial amount of supply and liquidity is put up as backstop to the protocol in the event this has to get monetized, token price not going to look pretty any forward cash flow analysis has to take this into account
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
Dynamic controller rates set by an algorithm have been duds in DeFi so far RAI has no traction. Liquity v1 doesn’t work in high rate environment crvUSD rates are wild and had many parameter adjustments Morpho has to result to weird idle liquidity games Did I miss any?
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
@labsGFX they came with receipts
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
Redeem DAI for USDS to get extra Sky points and from the new Sky Stars. USDS earns extra Sky to start. Stars also have their own points and tokens with the first Star being Spark so you’ll also get extra Sky and extra Star points putting USDS in Spark.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
Hate to break it to the EF but this is what people pay block space for
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
1 month
meanwhile, Aave DAO service providers are diligently working on how to add cbBTC in a safe manner which includes deep due diligence for Aave users that's the difference between professional service providers that work for users and consultants who are after a quick buck
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
I guess Humpy saw the Aave fee switch proposal, realized he had a huge bag of a useless governance token and decided to be the change he wanted to see in the world.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
when you're the largest application on ethereum but vitalik doesn't even know your name
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
a lot going on right now but some quick update on secondary peg status of popular stuff weETH off peg because liquid vault Uniswap liquidity got eaten ezETH off peg a lot over last few hours but trending back sUSDe off peg by few % but headed back
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
something new on the Aave front end
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
we use aggregators of aggregators like @DefiLlama swap
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@MacBudkowski
Mac Budkowski
2 months
@lemiscate @timdaub you guys are using aggregators?
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
@llamaonthebrink do you guys not read? this is his general vibe when talking about defi lol
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
4 months
Scroll Aave USDC pool at full utilization 👀
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
tbh that isn’t even the most egregious thing I’ve seen in defi lending world this weekend do we do another spicy Sunday write up?
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
and maybe it is a fundamental mental model thing vitalik says aave doesn’t do loans it does leverage positions and CDPs. But that’s all a loan is?? When you buy a house with mortgage that is a cdp with house as collateral. All loans are leverage imo.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
bruh lmaooo Gauntlet needs to fire their intern @swellnetworkio and @stakewise_io are two totally different protocols and osETH isn���t even an LRT it’s not just a social media mistake either cause an osETH (the liquid staking token) is actually listed in their vault
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
these forks don’t even come to governance forum or try and connect with Aave DAO contributors when really they should be asking for help and try to get listed as a friendly fork so people at bgd labs can at least put an eye on their deployment first ngmi
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
>why no arb >check arb >arb looses money
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
4 months
UWU almost certainly hacked
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
4 months
someone is getting rekt on chain right now, maybe Sifu and friends
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
6 months
No liquidity left in the LRT core vault so somehow Gauntlet has managed to lock their remaining depositors in for now
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
I’m assembling a team
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
going to touch grass now, but might explore later all the ways this could go wrong for now I leave you to speculate
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
27 days
don't worry bro. we need to list on day one to get hype and marketing tweets popping bro. aave dao is going to do it too bro. cbBTC is basically the same as 1 btc bro. plus there's no market price oracle for it bro. or you could have just waited a week
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
1 month
have been touching grass and working on some big initiatives in your favorite DAOs but had to come back to laugh at the "risk curators" on Morpho who have hardcoded their cbBTC market oracle to the BTC / USD price Steakhouse, BA and Gauntlet are all clowns for this one
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
Aave is not even close top global bank by AUM To be a top 100 bank you need around 300b in assets so that’s a 10x right there if you don’t think another few trillion or so assets aren’t coming on chain in the next decade then it probably makes sense to sell me your bags
@Fiskantes
fiskantes ⭐️🩸
2 months
Where does the 10x growth for projects such as LDO, MKR and AAVE come from? They seem to saturate the available market. Are they dependent on ETH pumping or do they have credible expansion strategies?
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
it's literally not a loan, imagine posting this unironically and thinking a random 90 iq peasant like you knows more than the FOUNDER of Ethereum lmao cringe end it
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
GHO borrow rate: down to 7.5% GHO supply: up to 95m GHO peg: steady at $1 Not using a “let’s gho” pun in this tweet: priceless There are somethings GHO can’t buy, for everything else just use Aave.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
6 months
how it started, how it's going I think Gauntlet is getting off the hook very easy on this one by saying "look it was a few days of yield" irresponsible supply cap policy created the situation for a liquidation cascade that lost borrowers a lot of money
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
haters gonna hate but Cronje behind almost every defi 0 to 1 moment
@llamaonthebrink
MilliΞ
3 months
My favorite quote of the month has to be Hasu saying that restaking is closer to KeeperNetwork (originally built by Andre Cronje) than anything else lol
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
Don’t worry bro. All the money is there bro. Just check out this screenshot of the bank account bro. Oh your UI is slow bro? Just a browser issue bro.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
BTC wars getting real spicy and interesting with a month to go before WBTC d-day
@0xngmi
0xngmi
2 months
TBTC is proposing to move all WBTC to TBTC network in exchange for 15% of T supply, valued at ~36m$
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
fascinating behavior
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Togbe
3 months
so to recap 4-day old EOA is both owner of morpho vault and the oracle that secures the vault oracles are hardcoded to 1 for a token with a very long lockup but some curve liquidity users can exit at 86% of their value now and never get liquidated 7m USDC thinks 17% is enough
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
4 months
This MakerDAO drama is why I’m pretty bullish doing basic work. Simply doing things in a transparent manner and running a DAO like a real business with minimal reporting and the like seems too hard for almost anyone else to do.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
Unpopular opinion: Governance tokens are for voting and improving the protocol through governance proposals if you or your delegates don’t participate meaningfully in governance you should sell to someone who will Need some kind of Harberger tax on tokens that don’t vote
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
@maybeYonas I’m fully behind this kind of thing tbh that’s what gov tokens are for, not sitting around making vc pnl look good
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
not how it was planned to get closer to $1b annualized revenue but Aave just had its highest day of fees ever
@lemiscate
Marc “Billy” Zeller 👻 🦇🔊
2 months
3.5m$ of liquidations fees collected during the night. I think that's the highest ever we collected.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
i have a lot to say about the arbitrum grants program but going to hold my tongue until after the current program is done and dusted suffice to say there going to be some new voices in Arbitrum governance soon that will work on cleaning up the mess
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
19 days
doing my weekly review of DeFi lending markets
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
tbh I see where he is coming from but it’s mostly a UX and tech issue before an aave credit card can be done and do we really want to be saddling people with crazy debt in the new financial future of France anyways?
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
4 months
Sifu has picked up where Mich left off
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
still reading? this is where it gets interesting the USD0++ curve pool morpho market has oracle 0x7bE further investigation reveals this to be a proxy contract with the LP hardcoded to 1 if you can read a block explorer you'll also see that the proxy owner is a 4-day old EOA!
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
1 month
@Pledditor @coinbase @base bro lol calling 4844 the coinbase protocol change is a major stretch
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
Hello Togbe, TL; DR: you’re 100% right
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
Wow first $cbBTC pre-mints coming in already
@ArkhamIntel
Arkham
2 months
BREAKING: 10K Silk Road BTC ($593.5M) moved to Coinbase Prime Wallet bc1ql received 10K BTC from a known US Government wallet 2 weeks ago. This BTC has just been sent on to 33J, a Coinbase Prime deposit wallet.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
4 months
Big week ahead with spicy governance activities going down in MakerDAO. Do MKR holders fire their arranger that never does any work? Or do they toe the party line and refuse to allow randos to make positive changes? Find out on the next episode of DBZ!
@ImperiumPaper
PaperImperium
4 months
Update: The proposal has been submitted, and will be up for a vote next Monday. We anticipate minimal opposition from delegates, since it’s an open and shut case. Low yield, quality competitors waiting in the wings, deficient record keeping, never delivered an audit, etc etc etc
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
a 1/1 hardcoded oracle market where users borrow against their curve LP and USD0++ tokens at up to 86% LTV with no worry about price seems like an interesting choice who would enable such a thing? don't have to look far since the owner of the vault is non other than 0x0659
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
big fan of all the multisig tooling and fancy UIs that are coming out have always liked @DeFiSaver but also checked out @brahmaFi recently and it is very cool too
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
@AdliTB a long post saying you basically don’t care or don’t understand the risks to users and are speed running getting people rekt the info about the oracle wasn’t even public or documented until I called it out here on twitter lots of fancy diagrams about points multipliers however
@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
@ivangbi_ it’s irresponsible to run these without extensive documentation of the risks for users and leads every time to people getting rekt I would argue the curator and Usual here also doesn’t understand the risk or even worse is using this vault as exit liquidity
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
19 days
If you don’t have more than 100 empty Uniswap NFTs on your main then can you even join in the discussion about how profitable LPs are?
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
@euler_mab wait did you just publish 1/(1-lltv %) as a research article
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
4 months
despite ridiculous amount of hoops to get and distribute the Arbitrum LTIPP grants, large projects and their contractors like @Uniswap and @gauntlet_xyz are still paying themselves against the rules grant incentives are ONLY to be distributed directly to Arbitrum users
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
13 days
some new frens in the aave ui
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Togbe
2 months
My 2c on TradFi: It’s really just 3 core types of product: 1. exchange 2. borrow/lend 3. synthetic assets And they’ve all been created already. So I don’t disagree with him — why spend more time building in TradFi? What else is there to build
@AviFelman
Avi
2 months
My 2c on DeFi: It’s really just 3 core types of product: 1. exchange 2. borrow/lend 3. synthetic assets And they’ve all been created already. So I don’t disagree with Vitalik — why spend more time building in DeFi? What else is there to build
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
have been over this a few times but DeFi is basically non existent on solana for some reason there is no real liquidity and so you can’t go there with size and the largest protocols are about size of Aave on Arbitrum no native BTC tells you all you need to know
@AvgJoesCrypto
Average Joe’s Crypto
3 months
In addition to this post, one of the things I found most shocking about Solana's onchain ecosystem was that the biggest $SOL - Stablecoin liquidity pool has only ~$7.1 million in $USDC liquidity.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
6 months
not a big fan of schadenfreude in defi because the space is so small and I think we should all grow together that said, if people have been pointing out potential issues and risks for months and the response has been "who cares?" then the bad situation actually happens...
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
DeFi borrow rates tanking is very interesting to me because you can still short tokens for high yield from funding rates and futures that makes it attractive to long on chain and short which is probably some of highest stablecoin yield you can get I just want DeFi futures
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
28 days
@Evan_ss6 they're so parasitic they are also parasitic to themselves
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
23 days
At first, I thought that GHO was here to provide another source of revenue to Aave, but now I'm convinced that the only goal is to make it bigger and bigger, providing even more revenue to Aave.
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
this impact metric dashboard built for the @Optimism Retro Grants 4 is sick think Aave has the most active users of any protocol
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@OSObserver
Open Source Observer
5 months
This post explains where the metrics come from & includes a working list of all metrics under consideration for badgeholders. We will update it regularly, at least until the start of voting (June 23), to reflect the evolution of metrics. 2/5
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Togbe
3 months
a short story on why I hate top tick liquidity mining
@gryndamere
Gryndamere
3 months
was looking into @MerchantMoe_xyz as the mnt - usdt pool offers a cool 1177% APR, but surely there is a catch, right [padme]
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Togbe
2 months
The year is 2046 Aave DAO voted to switch the $GHO peg to an ETH/BTC basket years ago but now $BOLD interest rates are thousands of percent in the wake of US dollar collapse
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
4 months
collateral damage
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
5 months
Crazy thing about LP pools being securities is everyone knows you don’t invest in those things for profit
@Mepslol
Meps 🦇🔊🩸💧
5 months
@functi0nZer0 @econoar I mean it kinda passes the test. You invest with the expectation of profit 🫠
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Togbe
4 months
study spending a bunch of money to rebrand a brand that didn't need any rebranding
@LefterisJP
Lefteris Karapetsas | Hiring for @rotkiapp
4 months
Unpopular opinion. This cow looks scary and terrible. I passionately dislike the rebranding. Please bring back the old @CoWSwap cow we all love 😭
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Togbe
3 months
Anja has minimal traction and is confusing Liquity v2 won’t have controller and relies on market participants so not sure it should count Basically it seems like they don’t work in practice Every PID controller has a plan until it gets punched in the face
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
1 month
all in for bull posting aave but this is the exact point about eth being way more than just fees
@krugman87
Krugman
1 month
Aave makes on average around 1/6 the fees of Ethereum. If $AAVE had 1/6 the market cap of Ethereum the token would be worth $3,150. I don't make the rules.
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Togbe
3 months
The 4th largest morpho market is “Idle DAI” with $85m MakerDAO money just sitting earning nothing in order to keep the rest of their money earning above crypto loan rates artificially high utilization and tvl is the result
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
Dynamic controller rates set by an algorithm have been duds in DeFi so far RAI has no traction. Liquity v1 doesn’t work in high rate environment crvUSD rates are wild and had many parameter adjustments Morpho has to result to weird idle liquidity games Did I miss any?
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Togbe
4 months
if you’re not happy about this you don’t really use the chain
@jconorgrogan
Conor
4 months
Ethereum just had its lowest hour of average gas prices since November 2016. 9 of the 10 cheapest hours have been this week
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Togbe
4 months
GHO on Arbitrum ARB incentives part airdrop part liquidity mining so get going
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Togbe
3 months
Usual is a stablecoin protocol trying to be a decentralized version of USDT USD0 is to be pegged to $1 and like USD0 doesn't pay a yield back to holders instead the protocol token will earn revenue from users deposits earning t-bill yield in the background now $132m tvl
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
6 months
You can earn (under market) yield but you can never leave Depositors are stuck in Hotel Gauntlet until either some borrowers repay (why would they at 4% borrow rates?) or more supply enters (why become exit liquidity?)
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
2 months
New stable is USDS, new brand is Sky New era for MakerDAO!
@DefiantNews
The Defiant
2 months
🆕 @MakerDAO will rebrand to Sky and launch its new USDS stablecoin on Sept. 14. The move will mark a major milestone in Maker's Endgame overhaul. "Sky represents the complete transformation of Maker," Maker's founder, @RuneKek , told The Defiant 👀
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Togbe
3 months
something else new
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Togbe
3 months
something new on the Aave front end
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Togbe
2 months
idk I think ETH strategy of get everyone hooked on cheap blobs while you squeeze suppliers to get a monopoly and one day raise prices is a very good plan tried and tested with success by savant enterprises like amazon and uber
@spreekaway
Spreek
2 months
THIS CHART IS WHY EVERYONE FROM ETH MAXIS TO YOUR LOCAL VCOOORS BELIEVE ZERO COST BLOBS HAVE TO GO IT’S KILLING THE BURN & BREAKING THE SECURITY MODEL OF L2S WE CAN’T KEEP INVESTING IN INFRA & CREATING NEW RUG TOKENS IF THE ETH FOUNDATION DOES NOTHING
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Togbe
3 months
there is a good spread before leverage so gearing it up some gets you to highest stable yields on chain likely
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@Togbe0x
Togbe
3 months
think you can long on gearbox and short on aave to get a delta neutral position earning better than ethena yields
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Togbe
4 months
mexican standoff vibes in the MakerDAO offboarding proposal big delegates on both sides but most of the votes haven't been registered yet, so maybe they wait to see where things are closer to the deadline
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Togbe
5 months
This but for the @CurveFinance alerts bot liquidations and de-liquidations
@0xdoug
Doug Colkitt
5 months
Interesting how you can pretty much see any major news event footprint in Etherscan just by noticing that beaver builds all the blocks for a couple minutes straight
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Togbe
5 months
people have been asking where the yield for GHO Merit program is coming from the answer is easy it comes from all-natural, sustainable, points-free DAO revenue profit is a hard thing for ct to understand, but Aave is making over $40m annualized mostly in ETH and stables
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Togbe
5 months
@bjnpck @crypto_yuvi @lemiscate the @Token_Logic dashboard site has both GHO revenue and total Aave revenue broken down in all the ways you could want. For revenue distribution, as always it's on the gov forum. Merit program was extended for a year targeting specific uses of the protocol.
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Togbe
3 months
in order to earn protocol tokens that in turn will earn protocol revenue, users can lock their USD0 into USD0++ in order to get pill points and lots of multipliers a few days ago they announced a morpho market where you can borrow against USD0++ and the USD0/USD0++ curve lp
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Togbe
4 months
someone is getting rekt on chain right now, maybe Sifu and friends
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Togbe
4 months
if you can’t be bothered to even do one excel sheet or power point when getting paid millions of dollars a year, I don’t see why I wouldn’t think you hadn’t just run away with any money you were supposed to be custodian of or just lost it somewhere study FTX bookkeeping
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Togbe
3 months
speaking of Solana DeFi not like the they aren’t trying but if you can only borrow a few million in these pools it will always be a kiddie pool
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Kamino
3 months
Introducing Kamino Lend V2 ⚙️ V2 introduces modular lending to Solana, evolving the product into a more powerful, open lending primitive Built on the battle-tested V1 codebase, V2 enables new use cases like RWAs & Orderbook Lending, and brings step-change security enchancements
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Togbe
4 months
how it started how it’s going
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Togbe
3 months
compound governance getting hot at the moment it seems
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tmnxeq
3 months
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Togbe
3 months
Umbrella proposal trades a portion of revenue for a substantial reduction in slashing risk on protocol token a good trade because revenue scales and new safety modules can scale along side it will also set a market insurance rate on each asset
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Togbe
3 months
one reason $AAVE trades at such a discount is that a non trivial amount of supply and liquidity is put up as backstop to the protocol in the event this has to get monetized, token price not going to look pretty any forward cash flow analysis has to take this into account
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Togbe
4 months
do people realize Uniswap has been giving millions of UNI tokens as LP incentives?
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Togbe
4 months
Uwu exploited (again) by same hacker after contracts unpaused to process CRV liquidation
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Togbe
4 months
@stevenshi_ @0xkinnif “Funds are safu” lmaooo
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Togbe
4 months
CRV llama lend market used as exit liquidity for the hacker
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Togbe
4 months
Ethena been live for months and people still haven’t googled “cash and carry” or “basis trade” it seems. It is the most basic commodity trade after a vanilla long so worth learning about for the uninitiated.
@loomdart
loomdart - Holy War Arc
4 months
can someone step by step label out the buy ETF short futs trade I can't figure out where the yield is coming from to make it worth it
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