Thread: Masks and NPIs.
This thread reviews information published from Oct 2019 - Dec 2020.
The point is to see what was known/believed before & after discovery of COV2.
We'll start with research on epidemic/pandemic influenza (flu) from Oct of 2019.
Aerosols vs. droplets.
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@KelleyKga
My lord. Look at this from her paper.
Everything here came to fruition, and it’s exactly what they wanted to happen.
“This can make masks symbols of altruism and solidarity.”
I can’t believe this. She intentionally drove the social engineering that tore society apart.
NY vs. FL - COVID Deaths - Adjusted for Population: 8/25/20
Here is the highly-requested comparison of NY vs. FL population-adjusted COVID deaths. NY does not publish Date of Death, so I had to use Reported Deaths from Worldometers + JHU.
Here you go.
Here in NY, school starts Tuesday.
Our version is 2 days in-person prison camp style with masks all day.
Positivity Rate <1% for the past month.
It will never good enough.
Today, we sent Letters of Intent indicating we are withdrawing our children to homeschool.
No more.
Do not despair, for this is the last gasp of insanity by Gov’t and PH leaders worldwide.
Don’t be saddened; be emboldened.
Don’t retreat; push forward and bring other converts with you.
We end this.
This is not an acceptable answer from Fauci. After all the damage he's done all year trying to make everyone believe humans are in control of the viral trajectory.
We are not in control. We never were, and he still clings to this fallacy over a year later.
@kelvmackenzie
Kelvin, you are not unique. It is known from studies that prior infected are more likely to have a stronger reaction to injection.
The question to you is…what risk-reward were you expecting from injection when you’ve already had mild infections conferring lasting immunity?
@mamamtoto
@flo_mask
Her intuition at 6 is good. She knows it’s wrong but trusts her mother.
Later in life, she may resent this abusive coercion.
Does FloMask have any evidence or data showing efficacy?
And have all the harms of force-masking kids been measured for comparison?
“I think the reopening was a little hasty. We want to reopen, but we want to reopen correctly. …People in public service need to be good listeners.” --FL Rep.
@CharlieCrist
criticizes Gov. DeSantis' handling of coronavirus in Florida as cases continue to surge there.
CoV2 Neanderthal Update: 4/23/21
I'm seriously asking:
- Why should we believe the CDC and White House understand CoV2 transmission and risks?
- Why are masks still a thing after a year of showing no value?
- How have masks become MORE of a talisman?
- What data support masks?
@AnnieTangent
Annie, take comfort in knowing that masking kids does not prevent viral transmission, nor does their vaccination status matter in that regard.
You’ve been at the same risk the whole time while teaching, but you were comforted by the safety blanket (masks) acting as a talisman.
@toddpruzan
Several of these are your choice. You don’t need govt to tell you what to do. You’re free to hug, shake hands, and visit with anyone you want.
Govt officials are not our leaders. They just manage the govt. Relying on politicians and bureaucrats to lead you is a path to sorrow.
My first article is now published. Please take a look and see what you think
I do see vaccine effectiveness for older age groups and higher doses, but 2-5X is much different than 68-97X as US Public Health and Government are trying to make us believe.
BREAKING: The Biden Administration will extend the transportation mask mandate by another 30 days, multiple industry sources tell CNN. It was set to expire March 18.
The quotes in this article from Denmark Public Health officials are a must-read for everyone, especially parents of healthy toddlers thinking about vaccinating when no other country is doing it.
Read the article, but here are some key quotes.
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FYI if you live in a country that just approved obselete SARS-CoV-2 vaccines to 0.5-4 year olds ⤵️
Director of the Danish Health Authority
@SSTbrostrom
: vaccinating children (5-15 year olds) in fall was a *mistake*, would not have made the decision today
AZ CLI Update: 9/6/20
Congrats, AZ. Your CLI is now equal to or better than it was on December 29th (2019) before COVID was known to exist by most of the world.
Maybe you can get lower than your October 2019 CLI?
@Theresa_Chapple
@apsmunro
I don’t block people. Just be aware you and others like you are why the public now detests their Public Health community.
Your unearned hubris and clout chasing harm countless children while you wallow in self-praise.
Ok, I'm back. It took longer than 12 hours because I appealed the decision. The appeal was rejected with no explanation of what was wrong.
In my appeal, I pointed out my statement was based on wording from the WHO Dec 2020 Guidance, which I attached to that Tweet and again here.
AZ COVID Hospital Metrics Update (FINAL VERSION): 8/23/20
This chart is no longer needed. I retire it with this final version. Please give it a warm sendoff.😇
✳️C19 ICU is 12.5% BELOW 5/26 baseline
✳️C19 Inpatient % change BELOW overall Inpatient census % change
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Hello,
@Delta
@DisneyCruise
@RoyalCaribbean
and many other travel/entertainment businesses in the US and abroad.
As soon as you stop requiring masks (and of course vax), we will immediately spend massive amounts on your services and will do so repetitively.
-Diamond Medallion
Here’s the deal: The Delta variant is more contagious, it’s deadlier, and it’s spreading quickly around the world – leaving young, unvaccinated people more vulnerable than ever. Please, get vaccinated if you haven’t already. Let’s head off this strain before it’s too late.
“What do you want to do, ignore the facts? They are what they are. Facts are stubborn things and it says to me that you’ve got to pay attention to what’s happening, adapt, adjust and do what’s right.” -Rep.
@CharlieCrist
says it "probably is" time for a statewide lock down in FL:
Wait.
So now masks are recommended even if shown not to work, and even when causing harm…
Just to avoid the CDC close contact guideline that assumes masks work 100% to prevent spread.
Not science. Just vapid coercion.
@angrybklynmom
I think the Bangladesh evidence is stronger than your read.
However: at this point there is also a basic fact that CDC close contact policies will allow more kids to stay in school if masks are used.
We should have off-ramps, but let's get kids in full time school first.
FL vs. FL Mask Comparison: 3/25/21
Here are the current Cases/100k by county based on:
Red: Masks required in classrooms
Green: Masks NOT required while children seated in classroom
Yellow: Mask requirements vary by grade and/or individual schools
*Data current as of 3/24
Hello,
@Delta
, as soon as you stop forcing masks, I’ll book the following:
1) JFK-PHX (5)
2) JFK-MCO (5)
3) JFK-TLH (2)
4) JFK-MSY (2)
5) JFK-LEX (5)
I’ll add international JFK-JNB and JFK-ARN, too, when we’re sure of no travel restrictions.
Enough with the COVID theatre.
Right. Singular focus on Test Positivity without context is foolish. Testing a LOT of people every day who aren't sick doesn't give you meaningful data. It also doesn't stop the virus from spreading.
What it does do is spend $$$, keep people afraid, and keep kids out of school.
NY is on the verge of more current covid hospitalizations per capita than FL. So it’s crystal clear that Covid test positivity as NY Gov Cuomo’s sole metric of measuring success and closing schools + businesses is anti-scientific
NY = 3%
FL = 7.6%
@rwidome
Rachel, hi. As an epidemiologist, is seasonality not discussed or taught? Is there a belief that only human intervention can alter the course of viral patterns?
Was this long-known pattern not expected?
@GavinNewsom
Florida removed all state mandates in September, has no state mask mandate, and has 100% of schools open for in-person learning (99.84% open full-time).
Since that time, here is Florida's performance compared to California's.
There is an easy way out of the hysteria.
Maybe
@BarackObama
can save us (or whoever made this decision with H1N1). I can't believe
@DrTomFrieden
was the CDC Director.
Easy "win" for the Biden Administration. Better do it before the natural Fall surge in northern states occurs.
US COVID-Era Performance Index: 3/15/21
This is a new concept that attempts to rank states based on more than just COVID outcomes.
Index is based on the avg rank of these 3 categories:
- COVID Mortality (Deaths/M)
- Unemployment Rate
- In-Person Schooling
100 is max possible.
@Laurie_Garrett
How do you conclude it's masks and distancing? Why would those be higher now than when the Fall and Winter surges occurred?
Have you considered the other reason respiratory illness falls off a cliff this time of year...every year?
@TracyBethHoeg
@CDCgov
@MonicaGandhi9
@DrDanielJohnson
@nytimes
Dr. Hoeg, after all this time, I can't believe this article state that masks were a vital part of virus mitigation.
You've seen the data yourself. It's not true!
While trying to help a minority of kids, you and Dr. Gandhi are actively destroying all kids by saying such things.
How is it possible for the
@CDCgov
to be the last place in the US to hang on to this fallacy for dear life, and how is it possible for the
@CDCDirector
not to know this is all untrue?
Dr. Rochelle Walensky signals CDC is not changing mask guidance yet, citing substantial or high community transmission in over 97% of U.S. counties and noting that hospitals are still overwhelmed.
"If and when we update guidance, we will communicate that clearly,” she says.
On the phone now with
@RoyalCaribbean
in an attempt to "use" credits from the Feb 2021 cancelation.
They require Vax for 12+ and expect to continue this policy after May 31...despite not being required by gov't.
Despite this, they still won't refund our money.
It's criminal.
This is incredible.
Instead of reflecting on her heinous decision and apologizing to her constituents for enforcing and unscientific and harmful mask policy…
She CONGRATULATES herself for this policy 2 years later as if she never learned a single thing.
@WHCOS
What do you mean? 65% of schools were already open in-person before inauguration day, and ~40% of those were open full-time 5dy/wk.
New CDC guidelines are only pushing that down.
1st chart shows where schools are open.
2nd chart shows how would have to close per CDC guidelines
Hello,
@elonmusk
, is this is a sign of the proverbial thumb being taken off the scale?
Extreme accounts like Dr. Gunter are seemingly now seeing challenges to their extremism, and they behave as petulant children who have gone 2.5 years with no opposition to their echo chamber.
@GovMurphy
This is obviously impossible and senseless.
NJ residents - at least now you know what you're up against. The numbers will never be good enough to retain your freedoms.
Mark this day.
There will be a CDC Independent Audit Commission, and it will include some regular people from outside “the system.”
The first step towards getting
@CDCgov
back to working for US.
Objective science should drive policy. Policy should not drive The Science.
Hmm, so it seems the CDC knows the natural peak will occur in the next few weeks, but they want people to believe their new guidance causes that peak?
How could "more vaccinations" stop the spread when so many are already vaccinated? You can't even get fully vaxxed in 2 weeks.
CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky says new mask-wearing guidance and more vaccinations could halt rising coronavirus cases in a “couple of weeks.” Where the delta variant is fueling a U.S. surge, the CDC wants vaccinated people to wear masks indoors.
Is this PhD trying to claim that all increases in deaths for ages 25-44 are from COVID even though these are not COVID deaths?
And this is an argument for how "influenza doesn't do this to young people"?
How does this dispel disinformation when this literally IS disinformation?
Airlines to Biden: Drop the Mask Mandate.
10 CEOs of US passenger and Cargo airlines send letter to President Biden calling for an end to the onboard mask mandate and predepature testing rules
NY vs. FL COV2 Update: 3/25/21
NY's 2nd wave slightly surpassed FL's summer wave, so NY has had 2 peaks higher than any of FL's peaks.
Now, FL is separating from NY despite having no state mandates and 100% of schools open in-person since Sep.
How much more does it take?
COVID School Dashboard update: we have posted a pre-print based on comprehensive data from NY, MA and FL on correlations between mitigation (density, ventilation, masking) and COVID-19 rates in schools.
FL CoV2 Update: 4/23/21
It's amazing to watch FL hit each stimulus point at progressively lower peaks while:
- Having no business restrictions since Sep
- Providing access to 5d/wk in-person school to 100% of students
- Having no state mask mandate
FL has now peaked.
Absolutely, 100% yes!
We need more governors to bow up and reject this nonsense. The CDC School Closing guidelines are abhorrent and remove any sliver of hope I had that this new administration would do things for the people instead of special interests.
When it comes to education in Florida, we’ve followed evidence and data, not special interests and hysteria. We did what was right by our students and families and we are not turning back.
***Master NY BOE Unmask🧵***
I've created this to gather all the NY BOE letters being sent to Gov Cuomo and Legislature.
It started with Hauppauge, a Long Island district that was open 5d/wk ALL YEAR. Yes, even in NY. They set the pace.
This is Science. This is Leadership.
@GovKathyHochul
What do you mean? Vaccination, boosting, and masking did nothing to prevent the largest-ever surge, and those things have nothing to do with the peak and fall either.
Every state around us is falling in unison…just like states nowhere near us who don’t require masks.
This is amazing. From a District next to me.
I don’t know what will actually happen on Monday when this takes effect, but I’m happy enough with the effort and the data-driven approach.
This is science. Not Fauci double masking after vaccination.
This is leadership.
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A widely available vaccine changes everything and it’s a new season in Tennessee. I am not renewing any public health orders because COVID-19 is no longer a health emergency in our state.
Well, it looks like this is the end. We thought it was over when CTP stopped, but then
@TheLawyerCraig
and his merry band of data volunteers kept us going for 4 more months.
In commemoration, we will post our final chart set.
First, Reported Cases & Hospitalization Census
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After ~4 months of gathering and posting state dashboard data, this will be our last day. I’ll still post regularly on Covid data and trends to keep the fancy talking heads honest and provide context to the numbers. But the dashboard-to-pastel graphic pipeline is off.
It just keeps happening. Innumerate media influencing the masses with horrible calculations and incorrect information. Twitter and YouTube censor valid information from real thinkers while allowing mainstream media to get away with this.
CFR is not IFR. 60% is not the threshold
Dr. Adams, respectfully, I don’t know if you are a top 5 troll who is laughing at all of us behind the computer screen or if you truly believe these insane things you say…
What I do know is you’ve forever tarnished your reputation.
You are a detriment to public health.
@Kevin_McKernan
@ReelDevelopment
@Hold2LLC
@and_kell
A) it also spreads from adults … to other adults! Mitigation isn’t just about schools or kids.
B) I never said anything about closing schools. You and others are the ones who keep bringing that up. I’m talking about lowering community spread, so as to keep schools OPEN!
@Isucceed
John, oddly, your pinned tweet seems applicable to this strange analogy.
What do you think masking does?
Do you think it purifies all exhaled breath?
Do you think all exhaled breath goes through the mask?
Do you think masks trap all pathogens and hold them neatly?
@MonicaGandhi9
Monica, please, why do you keep saying masking works when there is no evidence of efficacy and when we know it has never worked?
Especially now that both the WHO/CDC finally admit CoV2's predominant transmission mode = airborne.
What has caused you to cling so tightly to masks?
AZ COVID Metrics Update: 8/16/20
Let's get the day started right!
Down, down, down! It's crazy how mechanically and linearly all these stats are going down (like they went up).
Look how close C19 Inpatient & ICU are to overtaking the regular census.
COVID is a non-factor now.
From the
@ScottWAtlas
book.
I cannot believe these are the people who led our country into self-destruction and continue to do so.
I was on top of AZ data when Birx was making these claims. Now we know how that awful MWWR got published and why it’s still used as mask evidence.
@PaulRoundy1
@davidzweig
Not the case for infection or transmission. They fooled us for a while by using the 14-day definition and burying the infections during that window, but that’s no longer doable.
Infections have obliterated pre-vax levels, and boosted have the highest case rates.
Seasonality: 2/7/21
It was surprising to see a thread of Epis yesterday wondering why COV2 is declining rapidly nationally (and N. Hemisphere) despite no NPI changes.
When bringing up seasonality, it is often met with the belief seasonality means "only in Winter." Not the case.
@CNN
Alternate Headline:
"Since Gov. Ron DeSantis reopened Florida in late September, the change in rates of COVID-19 Hospitalizations and Reported Deaths has outperformed New Jersey where Gov. Phil Murphy has tightened restrictions."
Wow!! Of all the governors, I'm very surprised it's Doug Ducey. I thought for sure
@GovRonDeSantis
would do it first, especially after last week's roundtable, but here comes
@dougducey
off the top rope.
This removes the ability for counties to enforce a mask mandate!
@MarkLevineNYC
Mark, you have created this situation by:
1) Scaring people unnecessarily
2) Forcing people to test to work, go to school, or enter venues
3) Reducing Staffed Beds through vax mandates on HCWs
Total Inpatient census has not changed.
This is all self-inflicted.
@ScottAdamsSays
Flu disappeared everywhere, including in places without mask wearing. There is no difference in flu prevalence across the entire spectrum of mask usage and interventions (or lack thereof).
Also, mask usage has never affected flu results in the past (e.g. Japan).
@KristinAndrejko
@CDCMMWR
@CAPublicHealth
Hi, Kristin, the cloth result says, "not statistically significant."
Are you saying the results of 30,000 calls was 500 participants where those who wore masks religiously were more likely to tell a stranger they tested negative?
This defines real-world effectiveness?
So all this time spent vaccinating prior infected was a mistake.
We could have conducted serology/T-cell tests to narrow down the # of vaccines wasted and while prioritizing the CoV2-naive.
We also could have policies that recognize natural immunity as equal at minimum.
long-term impact on cellular immune memory. Antibody decay rates were similar in SARS-CoV-2 naïve and recovered vaccinees, suggesting that an additional vaccine dose will temporarily prolong antibody-mediated protection without fundamentally altering the underlying landscape of
NY/NJ vs. AZ/TX/FL: 9/5/20
One piece at a time has led to the pièce de résistance.
For this chart, NY is actual size. The other 4 states are normalized to NY's population. This means NJ/AZ deaths are increased, and TX/FL deaths are decreased - all adjusted proportionally.
@nathaliejacoby1
And if Boosted have the highest case rates? Followed by 2-Dose and 1-Dose?
Would you then only go to dinner with Unvaccinated?
And if Fully Vaxxed without prior infection have much higher infection rates than Unvaccinated with prior infection?
Only dine with prior infected?
@SamBrockNBC
@NBCNews
What do you mean by massive scale? FL is doing extremely well and better than highly-suppresses states like NY and CA.
Are you aware of these numbers?
What does it take?
What does it take for people to wake up?
What does it take for gov't to acknowledge what's happening?
How much more can vax and mask mandates fail before everyone realizes?
Link:
Alright, here we go!
Any cruise line that wants my family of 5 in your most expensive suite, let me know.
Looking at you
@DisneyCruise
where we've had 3 canceled since COVID .
Or
@RoyalCaribbean
where we have a large credit.
Drop NPIs, and we'll sail.
@CDCgov
Why does the CDC keep doing this? Cases are not on the rise. We are not all a bunch of nimrods who don't understand what's happening.
We know that "reported" cases are not when the cases occurred, and we also know reported cases depend on the quantity of testing + natural delays
CA/FL/NY COVID Comparison Update WITH SCHOOLS ADDED: 1/27/21
I knew schools were much more open in FL than CA, but I had no idea the true differential. Even between NY<>CA, the gap is huge, but FL destroys the narrative of every district and Teacher's Union that isn't open.
@pdubdev
Correct.
Here are some visualizations to show how drastic the flip was from Unvaxxed (more aptly named Unverified) to Vaxxed 5 weeks later.
After matching, all %s went from far below 50% to above 50% for Vaxxed:
- Cases: 60%
- Hosps: 52%
- Deaths: 53%
And more will switch.
...and they’re still trying to tell us community masking of healthy people is an effective way to prevent transmission.
Is this the most effective psyop in history?
Czech Republic put in mask rule in March. They’ve basically conquered the epidemic and reopening businesses and lifting mask rule again. 2 months of mask compliance has stopped the epidemic.
#COVID19
How is this possible? How is our new
@CDCDirector
completely unaware of what has happened for the past 12 months?
How can she not know lockdowns don't work? How does she not understand seasonality patterns?
Why can't she see all the open states?
MI already peaked.
It has been 75 days since this article and ~135 days since DeSantis removed all state mandates.
Here are the results since that date in September.
If
@CNN
has posted an update to this article or a similar one for CA/NY, please let me know so I can incorporate into my analysis.