Stuart Hameroff
@HameroffSt57357
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I don’t think biology can be programmed, other than by mucking with genetics. Biological behavior is driven by consciousness, from simple feelings in simple bio systems to complex consciousness in more microtubule-containing organisms. @StuartHameroff
For programmable biology to become possible we must first have programmable chemistry…
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How is assembly theory testable?
Theories need to be testable in principle. It is obvious what in principle means practically e.g. atomic theory, gravity waves, quantum theory. They all needed new technologies but you could always see, a priori, that they were testable. If there is no route, its 100% BS.
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Sara, Brian Life needs unitary coherence from quantum interactions, and motivation from conscious feelings. Complexity doesn’t hack it. Consciousness preceded life and prompted its origin and evolution.
. @Sara_Imari : “We Could Find Aliens In The Lab” Timestamp: 00:00 Intro 01:45 The origin of life and our search for aliens 05:07 Judging a book by its cover 09:40 Assembly theory and consciousness 15:10 What’s the testable hypothesis? 21:01 Is life a miracle? 30:23 Criticisms of assembly theory 43:11 Intelligent design 46:12 The concept of time in physics 50:43 The future of assembly theory 58:06 Predicting life on other planets using assembly theory 1:03:40 What if life didn’t originate on Earth? 1:06:54 Issues with assembly theory and Johannes Jäger 1:20:55 The day after aliens 1:26:19 Outro Link 🔗 in reply 👇
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Sorry, wavefunction collapse puts causation into physics, biology and consciousness ( the motivation you’re desperately missing) What’s your definition of life? What about the van der Waals forces? Where’s consciousness? Why are you scared of me?
Assembly Theory puts causation into physics, elevating it to a fundamental level. Newton, Russell, & Einstein would be confused but I think we can prove it, & it makes sense, & helps us understand reality at a deeper level…
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EEG is the slow end of a spatiotemporal hierarchy going inward in microtubule faster deeper quantum vibrations in kilohertz, megahertz, gigahertz, terahertz. Rather than a complex computer of simple neurons, the brain is a microtubule-based Time Crystal.
“Today, our ability to measure things far outstrips our ability to understand what we’re measuring. We can generate exquisitely detailed pictures of the brain in action, doing its thing. What we need to do now is learn how best to interpret that information.” Said that, meant it.
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The universe is fine-tuned for consciousness which preceded life, and likely sparked its origin and evolution. This would be obvious if you had a mechanism for consciousness in the early universe. That’s Penrose ‘OR’ In the primordial soup
Some scientists who accept the universe's fine-tuned for life: Barrow, Carr, Carter, Davies, Dawkins, Deutsch, Ellis, Greene, Guth, Harrison, Hawking, Linde, Page, Penrose, Polkinghorne, Rees, Sandage, Smolin, Susskind, Tegmark, Tipler, Vilenkin, Weinberg, Wheeler, and Wilczek.🧵
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Hi Hakwan Anil is bonkerist-in-name-only. The most bonkers, most rigorous, explanatory, biological, verified theory is Orch OR, yet Anil ignores its existence, He pushes cartoon neurons to conclude consciousness is an illusion, and defends IIT. Orch OR compatible with HoT and PC
sorry @anilkseth, can't grant you the right to wrong.
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Impressive! But each neuron has about a billion tubulins in microtubules switching at about 10 megahertz, so 10^16 switches(ops)/second PER NEURON, 10^27 per human brain. But that doesn’t explain consciousness, for which (IMO) Orch OR is needed.
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With due respect, feelings may have come first, possibly as Penrose OR in the primordial soup. Oparin micelle aromatic rings had protoconscious OR moments and rearranged to optimize pleasureable feelings. Why else all that purposeful behavior?
What is the evolutionary reason for feelings such as pity? The full episode is here: #science #evolution #morality
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The ‘Ghost in the machine’, a good description of quantum consciousness in a material brain, or set of material microtubules.
The shocking official CIA documents on human consciousness that says Consciousness is not a part of our body at all, it's stored in our brain, but not a part of it. Our consciousness (us) is its own being, a ghost version of us.
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Conscious feelings (e.g. pleasure) must have been present as motivation for purposeful behavior since life began. This paper describes how Penrose OR in the ‘primordial soup’ prompted the origin and evolution of life, Philip, please critique.
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What about scales from neurons inward, into deeper, faster, quantum dynamics in microtubules in kilohertz, megahertz, gigahertz and terahertz frequencies? ‘The deeper you go, the higher you fly. The higher you fly, the deeper you go’ (Beatles)
"Cognitive function requires the coordination of neural activity across many scales, from neurons and circuits to large-scale networks. As such, it is unlikely that an explanatory framework focused on any single scale will yield a comprehensive theory..."
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Cool. Have you looked at dynamics from microtubules inside neurons? Kilohertz, megahertz, gigahertz and terahertz coherence and resonance. Here’s @anirbanbandyo paper on megahertz and gigahertz regulating axonal firing in neuronal networks.
I'm a neural population kind of guy, but single neurons still never get old.
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The real Consciousness Wars are being waged by cartoon neuron theories against Orch OR, the only biological theory of consciousness.
An even-handed recap of recent events…and maybe a nice link to a new chapter . @RonyHirsch
@Liad_Mudrik @ Lucia Melloni #ARC_Cogitate
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It mentioned 5 theories in the Templeton project but only discussed the 4 ‘cartoon neuron’ theories with no positive results. Orch OR was the 5th, unnamed and not discussed, yet the only theory with positive results. Why the bias, Nature? @marilenharo
An even-handed recap of recent events…and maybe a nice link to a new chapter . @RonyHirsch
@Liad_Mudrik @ Lucia Melloni #ARC_Cogitate
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Thanks Victor Here’s a paper on Predictive Coding/Recurrent Processing between 2 microtubules in opposite directions. You can’t do that in cartoon neurons. PC/RP all the way down!
Wow, finally some really new insights into brain functioning, after decades of the same obvious psycho-neuro babble shit about cognition
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Relying on ‘Grownups’ sounds OK, but beware hidden agendas, like the brain as a complex computer of simple ‘cartoon neurons’, bolstering phony AI claims of conscious computers. 12 orders of frequency and quantum info processing in microtubules necessary.
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Relying on ‘Grownups’ sounds OK, but beware hidden agendas, like the brain as a complex computer of simple ‘cartoon neurons’, bolstering phony AI claims of conscious computers. 12 orders of frequency and quantum info processing in microtubules necessary.
Why (and how) we need to professionalize neuroscience By @jvoigts
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No multiverse. Penrose Objective Reduction (OR) collapses wavefunction, generates proto-conscious qualities in fundamental space time. These optimize consciousness (e.g.pleasure) and fine tune the universe. See last 3 paras in Section 6 @MaxTegmark
'Many physicists assume we must live in a multiverse – but their basic maths may be wrong.' This just out!
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The problem in Alzheimer’s isn’t amyloid. Tau dislodges from microtubules which disassemble, shrinking neurons, losing synapses and atrophying the brain. Matsuyama and Jarvik got it right in 1989. Treat the microtubules!!! It’s not that difficult.
Never too early. The @NIH will no longer co-endorse the updated #Alzheimers guidelines with the @alzassociation. Does the NIA recognize that Amyloid Isn't Alzheimer's? A refreshing dose of governmental sobriety. @forbes
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