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Some people still get shocked that the Pfizer post-marketing report shows that 1,223 people died within the first 10 weeks of vaccination. What they fail to consider is how many deaths you’d expect under normal circumstances.
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The Mother of all Debunks:
@stkirsch
has wasted reams of virtual paper on the stolen NZ data, making bold statements with no valid evidence to support them.
The one thing he didn’t do was look at deaths before NZ reopened. Today, I did just that.
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Steve Kirsch, self-proclaimed truth teller, determines how many people 15 or older drowned in 2021 by asking a chat bot, rather than going to a reliable source. In reality, the figure is 4,315.
No wonder he gets so much wrong.
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Here’s a graph of deaths that happened before NZ reopened. HVE accounts for the rise in the first 30 days then, after another 30 days, deaths tail off.
There’s no way this happens if the vaccines are killing people.
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Steve Kirsch has once again gotten things very long, this time about nursing home deaths after the vaccine started to be administered. He wanted to see my “full analysis”, whatever that means. He certainly didn’t do one.
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@knoxheffington
@sjs856
@SimonTurton10
You’d think that if anything could cause “turbo cancer” it would be an atomic bomb. Yet it took years for the cancers to appear.
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@glugalug
@nuclearmed23
@drsrednivashtar
@BadVaccineTakes
And it means messenger RNA in this case as well.
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This graph is devastating for
@stkirsch
and his claims. His fundamental mistake is that he didn’t look at the data before and after opening the borders.
Instead of engaging with me, he blocked me. What is Steve so scared of?
The Mother of all Debunks:
@stkirsch
has wasted reams of virtual paper on the stolen NZ data, making bold statements with no valid evidence to support them.
The one thing he didn’t do was look at deaths before NZ reopened. Today, I did just that.
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“But the SEC Filings” must be one of the dumbest AV arguments.
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Certain people are sharing this screenshot without making it clear that the prediction is based on data from 1990 to 2019. I wonder why. 🤔
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I’m not in the medical field, so I’m not legally bound by HIPAA. I feel icky using stolen private health data, but someone had to take a look at what should have been the first thing Steve examined. I assume it didn’t occur to him to do so, since the alternative would be…bad.
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@stkirsch
There are witness reports of her drinking and using drugs shortly before her cardiac arrest. There will be an autopsy and the police are investigating.
But of course you had to jump in before the facts are known. Do you even know if she was vaccinated?
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I limited it to the first two doses because those are the only 2 where there’s good data. I added a dose 1 record for those who had a dose 2 without a dose 1 record, because the date could be guessed reliably.
After NZ reopened, confounders abound and conclusions can’t be drawn.
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@LBower32390965
@kortpet
@Debunk_the_Funk
@IanCopeland5
@thevivafrei
Or, y’know, they both saw a chance to make a lot of money and whatever ethics they had vanished.
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In conclusion, Steve makes unfounded assumptions because he’s so eager to confirm his beliefs. His cherry-picking, inability to make graphs, and bad math leads to him being very wrong. And, sad to say, his followers don’t have the skills to see what he’s doing wrong.
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@mothrfunkr
You apparently didn’t read it. How many people do you think were vaccinated in March and April of 2020?
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Your typical anti-vaxer. Wants 10 year safety data for the pancreatic cancer vaccine, when only 13% of people with pancreatic cancer are alive 5 years later.
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This is an outcome of one or more people exploiting images of children with neuroblastoma and, in one instance, a bombing injury by labeling them as having been sexually abused. Too many people, mostly QAnon folks, fell for the lies.
@thecoercednurse
Well, did they know that young children who are sexually abused are often referred to as pandas because of the specific injury manifestations that kind of trauma causes?
Do they want to represent the underbelly of human trafficking symbolism?
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Here are graphs of COVID deaths and all-cause deaths based on the nursing home data. The red line is the start of vaccination. Deaths start going down from that point on.
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1,223 deaths are less than 1.5% of what you’d expect under normal circumstances. It shouldn’t shock anyone with some basic numeracy who did a little bit of thinking. It certainly shouldn’t shock a scientist or a doctor. But what can you do?🤷♀️
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I so wish
@stkirsch
hadn’t argued with a virus denier. It’s led to so many idiotic and incoherent responses, AND I DON’T WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION OF DEFENDING STEVE.
Sorry for shouting, but it’s very annoying.
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I, on the other hand, looked for an explanation and quickly found it. In the FAQs for the database, they explain it. I guess Steve preferred to make things up than to look into them.
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I took another look at the CMS data as well as
@stkirsch
’s code. I told him repeatedly that we don’t know how many residents were admitted with COVID, so the number of infections was systematically being undercounted. He didn’t listen.
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Steve’s not knowing that infected people who are admitted to a nursing home don’t go into the Covid+ figures bites him in the ass big-time here. As I hope you can see, the mortality rate over those two months was nowhere near 153%: it’s just Steve’s bad math again.
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It’s estimated that 50-70 million people received the Pfizer vaccine during the first 10 weeks. To be conservative, I’ll use the lower number.
How many deaths would you expect from a group of 50 million people? 85,450!
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@VaxxersAnti
Why aren’t people using urine for sunscreen yet? Probably would have to use their pool, since I doubt they’d be very welcome at the beach.
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I hate hate hate that I knew what this illiterate person was talking about. My poor brain is stuffed with anti-vax tropes and how to rebut them.
(I’m referring to the “page 38” part, not the misspelled syndrome.)
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I created a graph for the nursing home’s deaths and bed—something Steve doesn’t know how to do—which clearly shows that there was never anywhere near “a 100% death rate.” (Blue are beds, black are deaths.)
(If you want an explanation for why his math is wrong, ask me.)
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@stkirsch
@Nicoleg425
If you don’t know about the disclaimer, then you’re even more poorly informed than you usually sound.
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The loony one is spreading this nonsense about athletes dying.
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One of the many things that
@stkirsch
doesn’t understand is that preexisting diseases mentioned in the narrative get coded as symptoms. Consequently, he thinks these cases are new diagnoses. (He also inflates the numbers by including foreign reports.)
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Just one. His 8 year old daughter has had a baby already?
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Apparently I have to make something explicitly clear. The 1,223 deaths in the document were reported as adverse events, not as having been caused by the vaccine. None of them occurred at higher rates than would be expected by chance.
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Steve correctly saw that there were more Covid deaths than Covid patients but instead of looking for an explanation, he jumped to an incorrect conclusion.
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@stkirsch
I’m sorry that you are unaware of Omicron (that’s a pretty serious gap!). By then, the virus had mutated enough that the vaccines weren’t able to work nearly as well at preventing cases of Covid; however, as is evidence in the graph, the mortality rate is much lower.
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Brushliar does it again. When I pointed out that unvaccinated were 5x more likely to be hospitalized, he made up a ludicrous story. I imagine he found the image on someone’s page, so figured there would be no way to check. Wrong.
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Steve once again shows he doesn’t understand even the basics about statistics. The confidence interval was -1938 to 1019.
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@Debunk_the_Funk
@TheChiefNerd
Worse. 97% of the cohort were vaccinated, so there was no comparison possible between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. The headline is thoroughly misleading.
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Steve claims everyone is afraid to analyse the data. I did just that and also exposed the major errors Steve made.
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@stkirsch
If a scientist thinks a study is wrong, the correct response is to show why it’s wrong, not “the opposite.” This can be done by showing serious flaws in methodology, reasoning, or by disproving the results.
How do you not know this?
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@ryan613tucker
@sjs856
Here you go. It was indeed pancreatic cancer, which is an awful disease.
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@stkirsch
@thereal_truther
@DowdEdward
@RobertKennedyJr
There’s no way to know who was and wasn’t vaccinated, so your claim is false.
At least 2 of the kids on the cover did not die because of the vaccine. If they couldn’t get the cover right, why should we trust the insides?
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@doritmi
@stkirsch
@skepticalraptor
It doesn’t look like he’s read even the abstracts of these papers. I glanced at the first couple of pages and found 2 that had nothing to do with vaccines, and another that’s about environmental exposure to aluminium.
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Even though I’m quite busy on a project, I took the time to DL all of the data and do a quick look over it. Since it was a database I was unfamiliar with, I also read about it.
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@thereal_truther
@stkirsch
The second half of 2021 was brutal on working age adults., especially 3Q21 in the south. The higher the vax rate, the lower the deaths.
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I literally showed him the data. And anyone who listened to
@stkirsch
in either of Truther’s spaces heard him repeatedly deny that confounders (or control groups) mattered.
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@B1TuckerCarlson
@sjs856
Minaj was in Netherlands; Griner was in Russia. Why are you surprised the two countries differed in their treatment of the women?
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I’ll try to explain Steve’s bad math with a simple example.
Let’s say you throw 5 coins each day for a week. Every day you get 3 heads and 2 tails. By Steve’s math, you got 21 heads out of 5 coins, or 4 times the number of coins! In reality, 60% were heads (21/35).
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@Creativologist
Pretty much everything he says is performative. He’ll either ignore you or focus on something else.
Once in a while I’ll do some analysis as an exercise. Or because I’m pissed off enough.
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@AlanaNewmanCA
No response to my proof that these children had cancer and were not sexually molested? Is believing the lies that some malicious people started that important to you?
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@thereal_truther
@DowdEdward
@RobertKennedyJr
Also on the cover of the book is Aaron Vasquez, who had a misplaced coronary artery.
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@alumilynn
@sjs856
@TamaseseEdwin
Instead of making unsupported claims, how about showing a paper that you think supports what you’re saying.
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@stkirsch
Given the number of people who have said they want to debate you, only to be ignored or discarded for not meeting your standard, your first claim is silly. On top of that, debates are not a good way to resolve anything, since they’re all about winning, not seeking consensus.
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@NotMiRitchie
@wlldvs
Not that new. They use it while they’re thinking the N word. That and “diversity hire.”
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@joaniej0243
@JohnGHart
If that were true, the vaccinated would have noticed very quickly. They haven’t. 🤷♀️
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@JohntheLyricist
The funny thing is that anyone sane would know that you’re a doctor just by hearing you talk about healthcare.
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Even if you narrow it down to drowning while in bathtub, the figure for 2021 is 596.
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@sjs856
That’s sort of true. The original vaccines were tested against placebos. Once there was an effective vaccine, ethics dictated that future vaccines be tested against the current ones.
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@stkirsch
Seems like you’re confused again. Nursing home deaths dropped significantly since vaccinations began.
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@stkirsch
@DrSusanOliver1
VAERS has nothing to do with the study. Do you have a relevant criticism?
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Quick thread: why VAERS reports go up during and after a phase 3 vaccine trial.
Let’s say there are 100 reports for a particular adverse event in both the vaccine and placebo arms. The 100 reports in the vaccine arm will go into VAERS; the 100 reports in the placebo arm won’t.
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@stkirsch
@doritmi
@skepticalraptor
@gorskon
You have no credentials in medicine or statistical analysis. Touting your h-index, when the papers are about optical mice and search engines—entirely unrelated fields—is just sad.
Being smart doesn’t mean you magically acquire knowledge and skills in areas you haven’t studied.
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@Themis36768614
@AliNeitzelMD
@MdBreathe
You mean people who are in such bad shape that they need to be put on ventilators do not generally have good outcomes.
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@FukArondFindOut
Well, this is clearly him, unless Tim Cramer was in on it somehow.
@X
@Safety
@FBI
: This is Harry Fisher,
@HopiNg66966500
, detailing plans to grow his militia, cross state lines, and “literally f*cking sho*t them in the face” in response to vaccines. He uses
@XSpaces
to plan his militia. Today was not the first; he has deleted content to hide.
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