Steve Goeddeke
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Thread: How NOT to be a “chronic” chiropractic patient:
Let me first say, chiropractic can work like damn-near magic for people, and is extremely under-utilized. But at the same time it is over-utilized by a segment that mostly fall into the category of “toxic/deficient”.
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When the truth about vitamin A gets out, chiropractic offices will empty out.
I'm really good at this chiropractic thing but I'm still preparing for that eventuality.
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My wife miscarried 3x when we were eating liver one night a week. Stopped liver, two healthy babies. But we're still extremely vitamin A toxic from it years later, sky high blood retinol levels two years into a low vitamin A diet.
This is why advice to pregnant women to never eat liver is ridiculous. I discuss the research on vitamin A/liver controversies, safety, and risk of vitamin A toxicity in this article:
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Tried every diet out there from 2017-2022 to fix my chronic health issues.
Minimizing vitamin A resolved 90% of them over a two year time.
Mostly I got worse with the other diets.
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Number of patients I've convinced to stop taking multivitamins and/or D3 pills this year: somewhere around 30. This is not good for business. They create perpetually calcifying, repeat customers.
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Knowing what I know now - foods that really make me cringe:
Carrots
Peppers
Spinach
Sweet potatoes
Tomatoes
Not just because they're pure poison, but bc so many people incl my past self think they're healthy.
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@CBS_Herridge
@USMarshalsHQ
@CBSNews
Maybe they'll swap out the extremely dangerous vaccine with a saline placebo. Will fix the mind virus for people without hurting them.
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Two years of minimizing, up from a year ago at 46. Terrible poison.
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Low vitamin A is the first dietary intervention people with health problems should try.
Before:
Carnivore
Keto
Paleo
Gluten free
Fasting
Low oxalate
FODMAP
Vegan
10,000 "supplements"
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@BioavailableNd
Accutane is just "active" vitamin A, AKA the most toxic form of it. It takes years to clear that toxicity and heal damage in a slow controlled fashion by supporting detox bottlenecks such as ALDH with zinc, selenium, molybdenum, potassium, magnesium, and nicotinic acid.
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Year 3 of vitamin A detox is crazy. I just detox more aggressively over time. Blood levels still very high after year two. Get lots of low grade itchy spots as the retinoids move around. Yet still experiencing old symptoms improving or fading away at a good clip.
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My alcohol and aldehyde processing (ADH, ALDH enzymes) is off the charts after 2 years of detoxing vitamin A and working on mineral levels. The good news, I don't get hangovers anymore. The bad news, I can hardly maintain a decent buzz on beers bc I process the alcohol so fast.
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Eczema on hands has petered out, no longer flaring up, and healing over. I believe this is the end of a 6 month long massive dumping of "vitamin A" from my liver. Now we seem to be moving onto dumping copper. Can't sleep.
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A great way to "boost your immune system" is to ingest a bunch of poison. I worry 0% about fake viruses and 100% about trying to not poison myself.
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Patient with strange new problems.
Me: Taking any supps? Multis, D3, fish oils?
Patient: No just focus factor.
Focus Factor: (image)
SMH
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Discovering
@NutriDetect
on Twitter and joining his Love Your Liver program changed my life. Not only in the vast improvements to my own health. The lens of Toxic Bile theory, toxicities, and deficiencies, revolutionized my understanding of the patients I see at my office.
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The detox formula:
Minerals (Zn, Se, Mb, K, Mg)+ample protein+energy(glucose)+NAD (replenished with extra nicotinic acid AKA flush niacin) are needed to get all the requisite enzymes to "do the work" of detox, get the liver online and producing bile. Then just TIME (1/3)...
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Nicotinic acid (flush niacin) is powerful stuff. Turns out I'm not a 1-3+gram/day kind of guy. More like 250mg or less. Liver still kicking too much of the extra bile back into my blood it seems. It built up over a couple of weeks and started to bite me pretty hard.
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Liking potassium gluconate. I can put a TON of this in water and drink it all day, it tastes good, it's not salty like chloride. I feel great on a TON of potassium.
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I have a theory that some detox symptoms aren't always coming from cholestasis. Sometimes they might be poisons moving TO the liver, flowing AWAY from fatty deposits in the body, through lymphatic system.
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Working on my theory of why exactly vA toxic people seem to need a lot of chiropractic care. So much more recurrence of fixated joints in the upper neck, hands/wrists etc most frequently. Must be something to do with hypercalcemia and calcium deposits in soft tissue.
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A list of symptoms I have had, all related to vitamin A and copper toxicity, and the resultant liver damage. Many of these are gone, nearly all the rest are steadily improving.
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The fastest way to fix a chronic shoulder problem is to adjust someone's wrist. 2 years ago I never would have believed this. All I do all day is test and fix these kinds of things on people. So cool.
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Been minimizing vitamin A as low as possible for a year now. Just tested and my blood retinol is sitting at 46 mcg/dL. Q: How could I still have this much in my body? A: Because it's not a nutrient you need and use, but a TOXIN you can only eliminate VERY, VERY slowly.
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Forefoot walking. Doesn't even look too strange now after practicing for a while but it feels completely different. Just this is making my calves bigger than they've ever been in my life.
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You don't fix health problems with "more nutrients". Nutrient maxxers always end up poisoning themselves with high vitamin A foods - and often garbage "supplements" that shut down their liver detox system.
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@RRR0BYN
My wife was able to give birth to two breech babies naturally. OBs won't even touch those, straight to c-section. Our midwife was a blessing, she didn't sweat it (at least that we could tell!).
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Happy to report my ablity to tolerate alcohol without brutal migraines the day after has improved since this time last year.
Low vitamin A, low copper diet is working. (1.5 years in, health continues to improve).
My kids will be superhuman on this diet from birth.
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This is a fun one. Please don't be like these parents.
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Heavy detox wave passed, everything starting to feel tip-top again! What a journey this liver detox is.
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6 months ago, a tweet by
@NutriDetect
came across my feed. His ideas about nutrition flew in the face of what I thought to be true at the time. But I decided to follow him a while and heard out his ideas. Gradually I started to realized he might be on to something.
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After doing low carb myself for years in the past, I feel like it mostly gets apparent results because the scarcity of glucose slows liver detox activity to a crawl. Which feels GOOD but it sets you up for a hard time later on as the backlog of toxicity builds.
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Carbs feed the liver and fuel detox. Detox doesn't always feel good. No wonder people who go carnivore or just fast all the time feel so great. Long term, not going to work out well. Toxins accumulate and concentrate.
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@paulsaladinomd
Absurd. 1/3 of Americans are severely toxic with vitamin A based on gold standard liver biopsy data.
Meanwhile Grant Genereux has minimized vA in his diet for nearly ten years and his health only gets better, lots of us have done it for 2-5 years and experience the same.
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Look at the comments. Saladino getting positively mogged by the new paradigm.
Liver vs carrots…
Nearly 50% of Americans don’t get enough vitamin A from their diets…
Liver is one of the most nutrient-dense foods for humans.
All you need is 0.5-1 ounce of liver per day to meet your daily requirement for vitamin A…
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I'm actually convinced now that most of what happens in my office is that I restore function by releasing stuck joints, that have become stuck due to some type of calcification mechanism.
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@Pat_Stedman
Though it obv takes two, I suspect the karmic consequences to leading a girl on for 5+ years have to be pretty bad.
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And where does all that calcium go? It ends up in soft tissues. I did this experiment on myself several years back doing 5-15k IUs/day for a while. Resulted in SEVERE spine stiffness (Ankylosing Spondylitis) and wrist/tendon problems (DeQuervain's)
3 years of vit D3 supplementation at 4,000 or 10,000 IU resulted in LOWER BONE DENSITY in REAL PEOPLE, see linked study below
Go ahead, keep telling yourself that this pharma cartel-made rat poison is good for you
There's a reason it's so inexpensive
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My experience with a meat and water, zero carb diet so far. Feeling good, and strong!
90 day carnivore experiment- how is the second wave doing so far?
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Heavy detox wave as I near 2 years at this. Body seems to be mobilizing a lot of toxins out of my eyes, sinuses, head/neck this time. Again cursing all the absurd choices I made over the years, from green smoothies to carrot juice, multivitamins, and eating liver.
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@clif_high
D levels are a marker for health in a way, but not the way you think. Sunlight is good but D pills are literally rat poison. They make people hypercalcemic and that comes with a host of problems, not least of which is muscle and body stiffness. And vitamin K won't save you.
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Always felt diet MUST be able to fix autoimmune problems, but-
Eating lots of veggies- didn't work
Carnivore - worked sometimes, randomly
WPF, "Peatarian", nose to tail- no luck
100s of supplements - failed
Avoiding "vitamin" A- no sacroiliitis, no IBS, less joint pain, eczema
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Just consulted with a patient who was diagnosed with ankylosing spondylitis, had 2 knee replacements in last 5 years, body pretty well falling apart. Guess what she's consuming massive amounts of in her diet? "VITAMIN A" from vegetables. Also supplementing D, fish oil, etc.
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@DanScavino
It will help if we could put about 100,000 individuals in jail that are preventing that from happening.
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5 year anniversary today. Marriage only gets better over time for us, because I get better, and she gets better. Going for baby
#3
soon. Maybe we have 2 or 3 more in us, we'll see.
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If I've been seeing a patient for adjustments for some time with any regularity, I eventually just KNOW if they are on vitamin D, fish oil, multivitamins, etc. because they always come in with the same old aches and pains.
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Another proof of theory today: a patient's back "seized up" on him over the weekend. I always immediately suspect "subclinical" calcification of joint and muscle tissue. Asked him about diet and supplements. Guess what? Multivitamin every day, regular heavy milk drinker.
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My first patient that's been a taker on me coaching her on the vitamin A detox diet (in addition to chiropractic care) is doing great. Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, and about 6 other autoimmune conditions. No flare ups since she started (2 months), energy levels are way better.
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It's obvious that diet, nutrition, and supplements are very much a part of the fifth gen war just as much as the medical interventions so many have been focused on in the last few years. And they have been for a very long time - Nearly a century would be a good estimate.
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Patient with the beginning of de quervain's tendinitis of the wrist/hand tendons. She thought it was from her job. Asked her what she was taking:
"Caltrate" - see below plus a prenatal.
Every f*ing time.
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@TS_SCI_MAJIC12
@WhiteHouse
They instructed me to file a FOIA request and directed me to the website. He knew what I was calling about within the first 5 words I spoke and said, "Is this majestic 12?"
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95% of what I'm eating right now:
Burgers on sourdough
Oatmeal
Steak
Black beans
White cornbread
All the n00trients I need
Meat+organic grains/beans = max Lindy
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People get diagnosed with a disease, realize they need to start eating "healthier", and in doing so just make the problem worse.
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The only real signal on all of health Twitter.
Lately, I have been careful to fall into the trap of subscribing to extreme dietary positions, but sometimes you just see a signal you can't ignore.
That signal is Vitamin A.
This was brought to my attention by
@ThorTorrens
and much like seed oils, screams danger to me.
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All kinds of poisons "boost" your immune system, increase antibodies, etc. Immune system is the trash collection system, not so much the germ police people think they are.
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This obsession with eating beef liver all over health twitter has to end. Chronic vitamin A toxicity is a b**** and takes a LONG time to unwind.
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Cancer tissue is YOUR living tissue, on a special mission, to sequester and house toxic material, when safe storage elsewhere such as the liver is at capacity/exhausted. Going to war with it (trying to kill it) is a mistake.
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The future of X is just going to be
#TBT
and vitamin A disrespecter army just mogging your favorite health influencers everywhere you look.
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During the "pandemic", people we know weren't dropping dead left and right. Since they started doing the shot, people also not dropping dead any faster than usual. Just trying to be objective, seems like nothing really ever happened. This take probably wins no friends.
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The nature of chronic vitamin A toxicity is such that most people experimenting with their health, trying to eat "super foods", liver, take vitamins, etc. will not see consequences for these mistakes for years, possibly decades, and will not naturally connect it to their choices.
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I'll have people that come to me with 7 different autoimmune diseases.
And the main symptom of each of those 7 is some major well established symptom of vitamin A toxicity.
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I generally have always looked pretty shredded on even the most minimal training regiment. My body fat % is capped. Even at my sickest, most inflamed, I've looked pretty "ripped". Aesthetic "fizeek" doesn't always correlate to good health.
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I'm pretty sure I can delineate "detox before nicotinic acid" sharply from "detox after nicotinic acid". Moves so much faster now, blowing right from one retracing phase/event to the next with no delay.
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@TheCarnivoreLaw
I make my own every week, sourdough method, using organic whole grains. Solid food. I eat tons of it. Soaks up some bile so I don't endlessly reabsorb/recirculate it and I can actually detox. Don't worry I still eat a couple pounds of beef a day.
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Liver problems HIDE from blood tests. Liver is a workhorse and will be the last thing to fail.
"Vitamin" A (which is an alcohol - retinOL) toxicity also HIDES and greatly contributes to liver problems. It is a massive blind spot in the eyes of health seekers and doctors.
This is the liver of an apparently perfectly healthy man.
His liver function test (blood test) - perfectly fine.
His only symptom was "gas trouble for three months" for which he was showing multiple local physicians, all of whom prescribed him antacids and were happy with
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When you experience poison ivy, and then also experience "vitamin A" detoxing out through your skin, the similarities are undeniable.
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Liver pills are a way for someone to profit immensely off of a part of a cow that nobody wants to eat and normally only sells for $1-5/pound. Encapsulate and get $100-$200/pound equivalent. For a bunch of poison.
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Nearly 100% chance your health problems are from toxicity, rather than deficiency. Unless that deficiency is caused by a toxicity.
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@AJA_Cortes
It took almost ten years to pull myself out of the infantile state of wanting the world to crash and burn for the problems the boomers created. It doesn't work like that, though. The world burns continuously, and we have to consciously speak the new into creation.
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@NutriDetect
Crazy it's that easy. Though this hasn't been totally easy because of detox symptoms at times, my eczema as well as recurrent autoimmune/inflammatory sacroiliac pain is completely gone. Been trying to fix this shit for over ten years and it was a goddamn "vitamin" poisoning me.
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Most of my patient's MDs are playing checkers. Meanwhile toxic bile theory is chess. And this brand of chiropractic I've figured out is some kind of 5D chess.
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@Outdoctrination
Take 6,000 IUs/day if you want to have severe sexual dysfunction like Accutane victims.
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@kevinnbass
@KevinH_PhD
I think we all pretty much agree that processed grains, veg/soy oil, and sugar/HFCS suck. Why not start there? We can get people a lot healthier with that message alone.
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Had a patient take my advice to check out
@NutriDetect
YouTube. She listened to one show and is already all-in, threw out all her D3 pills and multis and is going to sign up for the Love Your Liver program. Smart lady.
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The only things deserving of the term superfood are beef, bread, beans, and maybe apples. Eat all other things sparingly and you'll do great. Don't put spices on your food except salt.
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3-4 years ago I was willing to engage in dialogue with people that disagreed with me. Now I realize it's futile to try to change anyone's mind with facts or a logical argument. Most come around to ideas only when they become acceptable by the herd.
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If patients don't see significant results in the first 6 visits, I'm opening conversations about what supplements they're taking. Multis, D3 come up ALL the time in these convos. Because they cause joints and muscles to calcify.
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@bigshreky82
@SBakerMD
This will pass, eventually bread will look like cardboard. Adaptation can be a pain just eat meat like it's your job.
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@TheBTCTherapist
You'll do way better over the next 2-3 years in silver. BTC isn't going anywhere until at least 2026-2027, maybe not even after that. It's dead money in a range bound market.
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@asdrawingaf
You got a stimulant effect from the copper. Will end badly. Almost all that "nutrition" is straight poisonous compounds and metals.
Eating liver gave me insomnia and anxiety, and gradually worsened my health problems. My wife miscarried 3x eating liver once a week. No joke.
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I feel this. I'm probably the only chiropractor out there desperately trying to get his patients to STOP taking their "vitamins".
I've become the supplement industry representative who tells most people to take fewer supplements (but more minerals).
Pretty fitting, given I've been a black sheep my entire life.
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@AlpacaAurelius
Looks like a graph of changes in childhood vaccine schedule shifted forward about 5-10 years. Last normal birth years were 87/88ish, then all hell starts to break loose.
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@EricMorganCoach
My extended family has a men's gathering once a year where 4 generations of men camp, shoot guns, and sit around a fire all weekend. It's a powerful experience.
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@admandv
@SBakerMD
@Ragnarly
@uBiome
@KetoCarnivore
I sent a screenshot to a buddy of mine that practices functional medicine and he's basically now on the verge of recommending carnivore diet to all his patients. Fascinating results. Though I've been carnivore for a year personally, it's not what I would have expected!
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Made it to 30k views! Caught on in the algorithm.
Wow my YouTube channel is new and tiny but I got 1k views in like 2 days since uploading it.
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@NutriDetect
I did parasite cleanses because I thought it was the cause of many of my problems. Turned out toxicity and toxic bile in my gut was the real problem, and my health problems and the parasites were both downstream from that.
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Just remembered I used to have a synovial cyst on my right wrist, and the wrist used to bother me quite often. It's vanished, along with the pain. Life just keeps getting better on low vitamin A.
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Glyphosate is a chelating agent that drains you of minerals needed to run detox enzymes and binding proteins that protect you from toxicity.
Most stuff you buy at the store is loaded with the stuff. It's a big reason why it's all trash.
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@SBakerMD
GB often avail at $2/lb. Cuts of steak $3-5/lb. $250-350/mnth eating ~4lbs/day. Cheaper than buying organic veg all the time...and tastier!
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@AdamStenman
You do adjustments/mobilizations ever? You should see how fast upper neck adjustments clear up sciatic/LB/hip symptoms. Obv not gonna change arthritic joints much, if at all, but it alters the mechanics profoundly and in a week or two limitations start fading away. Miraculous.
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New patient yesterday. After her first adjustment I asked her to look up/down/side/side. She was in shock at the ease/freedom of movement and tears of joy welled up her eyes.
Best gig in the world.
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Have been taking 2-5g of nicotinic acid daily for most of the last 6 months. I know it's been mobilizing a ton of toxins. When I started I got "sick" a bunch but have felt mostly good lately. Going to taper it down to zero over the next couple weeks and see how a break feels.
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Did a presentation this morning about how I deal with autoimmune conditions in chiropractic practice. Basically start them on a low vitamin A diet and plug them into the minerals etc they need to detox. That seems to stop the severe flare-ups quick. Then time.
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@nomouthmustpost
@LandsharkRides
@NutriDetect
No you just haven't explored the subject enough. When you dig in, the toxicity of vitamin A is extremely well established.
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After a year of detoxing vitamin A, most nights I'm not getting up to pee (was 2-3x/night a year ago). Was so nice while camping this weekend!
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@Pat_Stedman
I want my sisters to move in next door to us with their families and they all hang out while the kids play together all day every day.
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"Vitamin A" is nothing but a poison and I want this to be mainstream NOW.
@DrSteveGoeddeke
@JoshRainerGold
Hey Steve, update from our last conversation on SI joint. Hung up my walker in April. Walked 1.75mi today.
Did the first mile in 20:17. Improving fast. Thank you again for help and testimonial to
@nutridetect
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